Subscribe to Heretics Clips for fearless, good-faith debates that mainstream TV won’t touch: 👉 https://www.youtube.com/@hereticsclips/videos What should justice look like after the killing of Charlie Kirk? In this intense, tightly argued episode, death-row lawyer Clive Stafford-Smith explains why he believes the death penalty is the wrong answer—even in the most emotionally charged cases. Drawing on decades defending people facing execution, Clive challenges the idea that capital punishment delivers safety, closure, or fairness. Expect sharp pushback, uncomfortable hypotheticals, and clear, testable claims. We dig into the questions everyone’s asking but few can answer clearly: • Does capital punishment deter violence—or just satisfy a desire for retribution? • What actually serves victims’ families: years of appeals, or swift certainty without executions? • How often do wrongful convictions, prosecutorial errors, and bias contaminate capital cases? • If not the death penalty, then what? Whole-life terms, restorative options, or evidence-based prevention? • What would a victim-first justice system fund tomorrow: investigations, witness protection, mental-health triage, community risk management? Clive also lays out the hard numbers on cost, error rates, and outcomes, and explains why countries that moved away from executions didn’t slide into chaos. He argues that credible accountability and fewer future victims should be the north star—not media headlines or political point-scoring. Whether you agree or not, you’ll leave with a sharper understanding of the trade-offs: deterrence vs. justice, punishment vs. prevention, emotion vs. evidence. 💬 Join the discussion below: If you were writing policy today, what single reform would most reduce future harm—tougher sentences, smarter monitoring, or expanding prevention and support for at-risk communities? Hit Subscribe for more uncompromising conversations with thinkers who don’t play it safe—then share this episode with someone who disagrees with you. That’s how ideas get tested. Watch the full podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0CQVL46Wj0&t=26s #CliveStaffordSmith #DeathPenalty #HereticsPodcast #AndrewGold #Justice #PublicSafety #CapitalPunishment #LawAndPolicy #VictimsRights #EvidenceBasedPolicy #Debate #LongformConversation