Robert Leshner — the mind behind Compound, and now the founder of Superstate — believes the next trillion-dollar shift will come from bringing the world’s assets on-chain.
In this episode, Cami sits down with one of DeFi’s earliest pioneers to unpack:
Why DeFi itself shouldn’t change — but assets will
How tokenized T-bills, basis strategies, and even equities are finally getting institutional traction
Why regulatory “tailwinds,” not new laws, unlocked the RWA boom
The two competing models of tokenized stocks — and why both will win
What happens when DeFi becomes the infrastructure powering TradFi
What he’d do differently after Compound’s messy transition to decentralized governance
Robert also gives us a candid breakdown of how Superstate is building “canonical tokenization” — letting public companies turn their actual stock into blockchain-native assets — and why the real breakthrough won’t come from issuance… but from DeFi use cases.
In a world of fast-advancing technology, we are told to trust in our own research. But as the crypto space matures, scams and exploits remain a constant presence. When your assets are gone, they are gone forever, with a near-zero chance of recovery. The old mantra of "Do Your Own Research" falls short against sophisticated threats like address poisoning, advanced malware, and convincing AI deepfakes. How, then, do we build a safer Web3 without sacrificing the decentralized ideals at its core?
Alex Katz, CEO of the Web3 security solution Kerberus, joins us to explore this new frontier. We delve into the philosophical debate of autonomy versus protection, the push for auditing standards, and the future of wallet-native security.
Chapters
00:00 Android vulnerability: why mobile crypto is risky
01:21 Building safer Web3 without sacrificing decentralization
02:10 Crypto’s Wild West: few rules, big risks
03:37 Why scams continue: prosecution, standards, protection gaps
05:44 Kerberus approach and results: zero user losses
06:24 Coverage up to $30K and growth needs
08:24 Why DYOR is insufficient for modern threats
09:33 Traders’ behavior, phishing risk, and automation
11:25 Crypto antivirus vision and malware threats
12:11 Hardware vs. hot wallets: balancing safety and speed
14:41 Address poisoning, clipboard privacy, and deepfakes
20:22 Autonomy vs. protection: beyond user education
24:44 Wallet security should be default, like antivirus
31:51 Getting grandma into Web3 safely
32:29 Lightning round: tools, myths, key lessons
36:04 Where to find Kerberus and closing notes
In the second episode of Ecosystems: Avalanche, we track the protocol’s trajectory, which included a peak valuation of $13 billion, followed by a period of consolidation and strategic redevelopment.
The Defiant founder Camila Russo and Ava Labs' Chief Strategy Officer Luigi D’Onorio DeMeo are joined by founders from BENQI, Euler Labs, and LFJ, who are building on the Avalanche protocol. The conversation covers technical upgrades such as Octane and Etna, aimed at reducing fees, and Interchain Messaging, designed to enhance interoperability between blockchains. It also addresses the strategy to onboard institutional clients, including T. Rowe Price and Wellington, through customized Layer 1 solutions.
Can Avalanche cultivate an ecosystem that thrives without relying on constant incentives, particularly regarding liquidity and user retention? Join us to find out.
In this conversation, May Zabaneh breaks down PayPal’s move into stablecoins with PYUSD and why it matters for financial inclusion. We explore how PYUSD could lower costs for cross-border payments, deliver faster settlement, and plug directly into PayPal’s existing ecosystem. The discussion covers why PayPal built a proprietary stablecoin, early adoption and real-world use cases, and plans for international expansion. We also examine the role merchants play in crypto acceptance, how DeFi and traditional finance are converging, and why interoperability will be essential in the next phase of digital payments.
Chapters
00:00 PayPal’s Vision for Stablecoins
02:47 Why PYUSD? Rationale and Goals
05:18 Stablecoin Advantages: 24/7, Inclusion, Cross‑Border
08:22 Why Proprietary vs Supporting Others
11:06 Unlocking B2B and Rebuilding On‑Chain
12:20 PYUSD in the PayPal/Venmo Ecosystem
14:21 International Expansion and Global Transfers
17:02 Merchant Fit: Categories, Costs, Declines
19:32 User Segments: Crypto‑Curious to Super Users
23:28 Pay with Crypto: Scaling to Larger Merchants
29:38 PYUSD in DeFi: Open and Multi‑Chain
32:01 Liquidity, Partnerships, and the Three Pillars
35:56 Interoperability and Evolving Roles
39:11 AI x Payments: Agent‑Driven Commerce
40:42 Finding the Flywheel, What’s Next
In Web3, we find ourselves in an age of digital phantoms, a "click-farm" era where identity is flimsy and easily fabricated. But what if reputation could be real, portable, and valuable? Animoca Brands co-founder Yat Siu returns to explore this very question, detailing a vision for a trust layer built on zero-knowledge proofs.
He reveals plans for a Hong Kong dollar stablecoin, a joint venture with Standard Chartered and HKT awaiting regulatory approval, and unpacks the Mocaverse ecosystem where staking power and airdrops build a verifiable, cross-chain identity. We also explore the future of Web3 gaming, the coming meta shift from GTA 6, and a bold thesis: why the entire altcoin market may one day eclipse Bitcoin.
Tune in to discover how we might build a more trustworthy digital future.
Chapters
00:18 Solving Web3's "Click Fraud" Problem
01:01 Animoca's Plan for a Hong Kong Stablecoin
03:12 Navigating Hong Kong and China's Regulatory Landscape
09:11 The Composability and Promise of Stablecoins
11:09 Introducing the Mocaverse Loyalty SDK
12:56 Building an Interoperable Digital Identity
15:04 The Search for Trust in a Permissionless World
18:34 Data Custody, GDPR, and Self-Sovereignty
21:02 Can Reputation Live Across Multiple Chains?
27:07 The Limits of KYC and Airdrop Farming
28:49 Staking Power and Airdrops as a Form of Credit
40:34 Rumors of a US Listing for Animoca
45:13 The Future of Web3 Gaming and the GTA 6 Effect
56:22 Why Altcoins May One Day Eclipse Bitcoin
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Vinny sits down with Ahmad Shadid—former quant trader turned founder—who redirected the 2022 GPU crunch into a decentralized GPU network and now leads a bold push toward “sovereign superintelligence”: an AI CEO framework that can govern, fund, and scale itself transparently.
We unpack vibe coding (building with AI at 20x speed), how zero-knowledge proofs and decentralized networks could reshape AI, and why security must keep pace in a world moving faster than audits. We talk leadership, the democratization of software, and the next wave of founders shipping products in days—not months.
We discuss:
How vibe coding empowers anyone to ship working demos fast
Where AI CEOs make sense—and where humans still matter
Why Web3 UX, wallets, and cross-chain could leap forward
The real bottleneck: security and audits in a 20x build world
Practical risks for builders and consumers—and how to stay safe
Chapters
00:00 The internet-magnitude moment for building
01:13 Sovereign superintelligence and AI CEO
01:38 Vibe coding: ship 20x faster
01:53 Speed vs. security: the new bottleneck
03:03 From GPU crunch to GPU networks
03:22 Why AI + Web3 will drive the decade
06:51 Will AI replace “managers” or leaders?
09:53 Vibe coding explained—anyone can build
14:05 Tools outpace human code reading
16:30 Building an AI-first product workflow
21:13 Build fast, but build safely
32:00 Toward decentralized AI-managed organizations
37:34 What’s driving the vibe coding wave
39:58 Democratization vs. industry gatekeeping
42:45 Anyone can start—opportunities everywhere
Avalanche says it can finally square the circle: sub‑second finality, a large decentralized validator set, and thousands of sovereign L1s connected through native messaging for shared liquidity.
In the genesis episode of our new ECOSYSTEMS podcast, Camila Russo and guest cohost Luigi D’Onorio DeMeo of Ava Labs unpack the Avalanche story—from Team Rocket’s probabilistic consensus and the stadium sampling intuition, to today’s “city of chains” (C‑Chain liquidity hub, P/X chains, and customizable L1s). We discuss:
How random sampling achieves speed and safety/liveness guarantees
Customization without fragmentation via inter-chain messaging (ICM)
L1 vs L2 trade-offs: shared security vs shared risk, costs, and interoperability
Enterprise paths (FIFA, Toyota, fintechs), privacy options, and Ava Cloud’s “L1 in minutes”
Decentralization in practice: validator counts, Nakamoto coefficient, and hardware accessibility
What real adoption looks like for payments, DeFi, and emerging markets
If Avalanche is right, it has the chance to make finance programmable at scale. If not, we add to the L1 graveyard.
Crypto’s next chapter isn’t a shinier coin—it’s invisible rails. In this episode, we sit down with Aryan Sheikhalian, Research Lead at CMT Digital, to unpack the shift from “crypto as an asset” to crypto as infrastructure: 24/7 markets, instant clearing and settlement, and new structured products that couldn’t exist before.
We talk about tokenized equities (wrappers vs. native tokenization and why dividends/governance matter), how identity layers and ZK proofs unlock mainstream distribution through banks and fintechs, and where regulation is pushing builders toward partnerships and licensed rails.
Chapters
00:00 Hook: crypto as infrastructure, not asset
01:15 Guest intro and research focus
02:06 Incentives, psychology, and mechanism design
04:03 ICO lessons, maturity, and red flags
07:09 CMT Digital’s thesis and “strictly better”
10:27 Tokenized equities drivers and demand
13:40 Wrappers vs native: dividends, governance
16:06 Fintech rails, velocity, cost efficiency
18:26 Banks, distribution, and competitive incentives
20:29 New assets: GPUs, data, energy tokens
23:23 Identity layers and ZK proofs for scale
25:55 State of crypto VC and fund trends
27:51 Overlooked sectors: DePIN and decentralized data
31:26 Prediction markets and resolution design
34:18 Regulation, licenses, and partnerships
39:45 Market outlook: TVL, stables, volatility
42:45 Founder advice: conviction and user focus
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Paul Veradittakit, Managing Partner at Pantera Capital, to discuss the explosive growth of Solana, the future of stablecoins, and the evolution of digital asset treasury companies. Paul shares insights on Pantera's $1.2 billion Solana fund, the role of institutional capital in this crypto cycle, and why he believes Solana is poised to outperform Bitcoin and Ethereum. Tune in for a look into the next wave of blockchain innovation, from payments to gaming and beyond.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to stablecoins as a practical store of value
01:00 - Guest introduction: Paul Veradittakit of Pantera Capital
01:37 - Pantera’s $1.2 billion Solana fund: Why Solana?
02:36 - Evolution of digital asset treasury companies
04:13 - Pantera’s bullish stance on Solana: Technology and adoption
06:03 - Investment strategies for single-asset treasury companies
08:30 - Managing Solana in Helios: Staking, DeFi, and M&A
10:35 - Addressing Solana’s decentralization and downtime concerns
12:22 - Meme coins and their role in Solana’s ecosystem
18:18 - Stablecoins: A growing demand in Latin America
20:01 - Future use cases for Solana: Payments, AI, and Deepin
23:00 - The rise of specialized blockchains for vertical use cases
26:17 - Stablecoins as a payments hub: Key players to watch
28:14 - Altcoins’ potential to outperform Bitcoin in this cycle
33:15 - Crypto gaming: The underestimated vertical
35:37 - Closing thoughts: Solana’s future and Pantera’s vision
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Ben Nadareski, CEO and Co-Founder of Solstice Labs, to explore DeFi on Solana and why it’s becoming a magnet for institutional adoption. Ben shares how Solstice Labs is pioneering permissionless, institutional-grade yield strategies and launching the US token, a fully collateralized stablecoin designed to unlock new levels of trust and scalability in DeFi.
We dive into Solana’s unique advantages—speed, low costs, and composability—and how it’s shaking off its “meme chain” reputation to emerge as a serious contender in the blockchain space. Ben also addresses the challenges of scaling trust in crypto, the rise of yield-bearing stablecoins, and how DeFi is empowering users in emerging markets.
We also tackle: How can Solana maintain its edge in a crowded blockchain market? What’s being done to address past network outages? And how can regulation strike the right balance between protecting users and fostering innovation?
Chapters
00:00 – Scaling Trust in Crypto
00:22 – Solana’s DeFi Momentum
01:16 – Why Solana Stands Out
03:43 – From Meme Chain to DeFi Leader
05:57 – The Rise of Yield-Bearing Stablecoins
08:01 – Regulation and Trust in DeFi
12:45 – Solstice Labs and the US Token
18:19 – DeFi’s Role in Emerging Markets
25:13 – The Future of DeFi on Solana
33:08 – Building a Transparent and Scalable DeFi Ecosystem
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Eli Ben-Sasson, co-founder and CEO of StarkWare, to explore how StarkNet is revolutionizing blockchain scalability with ZK proofs. From Bitcoin staking to the creation of an "integrity web," Eli shares groundbreaking insights into the future of decentralized finance, Bitcoin's execution layer, and the role of StarkNet in shaping the blockchain ecosystem. Tune in to discover how StarkNet is leading the charge in decentralization, scalability, and innovation.
Chapters
00:00 – Introduction to Eli Ben-Sasson & StarkWare
00:24 – StarkNet’s mission: Scaling blockchain with ZK proofs
01:30 – StarkWare’s achievements: $8B valuation & global impact
03:22 – BTC Phi: Bitcoin staking & $100M incentive program
07:05 – How Bitcoin staking works on StarkNet
17:11 – StarkNet as Bitcoin’s execution layer: The vision
27:21 – Verifying Bitcoin headers in milliseconds: A breakthrough
41:02 – StarkNet’s role in the "integrity web"
49:51 – Why corporate chains won’t work in crypto
51:53 – Closing thoughts: Decentralization, scale, and the future
Why did Game Square, the Jerry Jones-backed media powerhouse, bet $100 million on Ethereum instead of Bitcoin? In this episode of The DeFiant Podcast, Vinny sits down with crypto pioneer Ryan Zurrer to explore the strategy behind this bold move. Ryan, who co-wrote the MakerDAO whitepaper and now leads Dialectic, shares why Ethereum dominates 5 out of 6 real-world crypto use cases, from stablecoins to DeFi, and how it’s emerging as the financial substrate of the future. Learn how Game Square is leveraging Ethereum’s programmability to earn yields of up to 14% and why this strategy could set a new standard for corporate crypto adoption.
The conversation dives deep into the evolution of DeFi, the lessons learned from past crypto cycles, and the importance of decentralization and fair launches in building sustainable ecosystems. Ryan also shares insights into Dialectic’s automated DeFi machine, which uses hyper-diversification and risk-adjusted strategies to maximize returns.
Chapters
00:00 - Litmus Test for Crypto Projects
00:28 - MakerDAO and Stablecoin Innovation
01:23 - Game Square’s $100M Ethereum Bet
02:32 - Ethereum’s Real-World Dominance
05:09 - Dialectic’s DeFi Machine
06:12 - Compounding Yields with Ethereum
10:01 - Lessons from Crypto History
16:01 - The Evolution of Crypto Governance
28:02 - Polkadot’s Interoperability Vision
40:00 - Ethereum as the Corporate Crypto Blueprint
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Paul Faecks, CEO of Plasma Chain, discusses the platform’s approach to stablecoin payments and its potential to reshape global financial infrastructure. From gasless USD transfers to a $2 billion liquidity launch, Paul explains how Plasma Chain plans to compete with established players like Tron and Ethereum while focusing on emerging markets and decentralization. The conversation also touches on regulatory challenges, partnerships with Tether and Binance, and the broader future of stablecoins.
Chapters:
00:00 – The role of DeFi in stablecoin chains
00:30 – Why subsidizing gasless transfers makes sense
00:58 – Meet Paul Faecks and Plasma Chain
01:26 – From poker to crypto: Paul’s journey
02:28 – The vision behind Plasma and Tether’s involvement
03:00 – Stablecoins as a $1 trillion market opportunity
05:21 – Plasma’s technical innovations: Gasless USD transfers
07:19 – Why USDt is prioritized on Plasma
09:22 – Building a sustainable DeFi ecosystem
12:31 – $2 billion in stablecoin liquidity at launch
15:22 – Navigating regulations and the Genius Act
19:22 – The future of stablecoin payments globally
21:02 – Emerging markets as the biggest opportunity
26:23 – Plasma’s path to decentralization
39:02 – Launch timeline and ecosystem readiness
Stablecoins are no longer just a buzzword—they’re transforming the way the world moves money. In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Reeve Collins, co-founder of Tether, co-founder of WeFi, and chairman at STBL, to explore the groundbreaking evolution of stablecoins.
From their early days as a simple payment solution to their role in reshaping global finance, Reeve shares insider insights on how stablecoins are building trust, driving financial inclusion, and securing the future of money.
We’ll dive into:
✅ The origins of stablecoins and their $246 billion impact
✅ How stablecoins are revolutionizing cross-border payments and DeFi
✅ The rise of Stablecoins 2.0 and what it means for users
✅ Why major players like Visa and JPMorgan are entering the space
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction: Stablecoins and their impact
00:51 - Meet Reeve Collins: A Web3 trailblazer
01:34 - The origin of stablecoins: Tokenizing the US dollar
02:58 - Stablecoins today: A $246 billion industry
05:17 - The rise of Stablecoins 2.0
07:45 - Yield-bearing stablecoins: User benefits explained
10:01 - Tokenized assets in 401(k)s and traditional finance
12:28 - Major players entering the stablecoin space
14:04 - How stablecoins are transforming banking
17:10 - Blockchain’s promise: Removing the middleman
19:06 - Financial inclusion through decentralized banking
22:55 - Mobile-first, wallet-native financial solutions
25:27 - Building trust in underserved communities
28:16 - Stablecoins 2.0: Transparency and compliance
38:13 - Mass adoption: Public companies and crypto treasuries
40:27 - Closing thoughts: The future of blockchain
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In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Joseph Onorati, CEO of DeFi Development Corp, the second-largest Solana treasury company. Joseph shares the journey of transforming DeFi Development Corp into a Solana-focused treasury powerhouse, their innovative yield strategies, and why Solana's volatility and native yield make it a compelling treasury asset. We also dive into the broader case for crypto treasury companies, the risks and rewards of staking strategies, and the future of Solana in the blockchain ecosystem.
Plus, Joseph shares his bold prediction: Solana flipping Ethereum by market cap. Tune in for a deep dive into the intersection of DeFi, treasury management, and the Solana ecosystem.
Chapters
00:00:00 Why Solana as a Treasury Asset?
00:00:41 Volatility, Convertible Debt, and Cost of Capital
00:01:20 Introducing Joseph and DeFi Development Corp
00:02:10 The Evolution of DeFi Development Corp
00:03:56 Staking, Validators, and Yield Strategies
00:05:40 Breaking Down Solana Yield Strategies
00:10:10 Risks in Staking and Looping Strategies
00:12:03 The Case for Crypto Treasury Companies
00:15:03 Solana Per Share Growth and Fundraising Flywheels
00:20:02 Challenges with NAV Premium Compression
00:27:16 Solana’s Market Share in Treasury Companies
00:30:00 ETFs and Their Impact on Crypto Treasuries
00:36:01 The Future of Public Market Crypto Instruments
00:46:14 Risks and Controversies in Crypto Treasuries
00:54:16 Locked Solana and OTC Markets
01:06:15 DeFi Development Corp’s Treasury Accelerator Program
01:08:09 Bull Case for Solana and Price Predictions
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Fakhul Miah, Managing Director of GoMining Institutional and former Morgan Stanley executive, to explore the rapidly evolving world of Bitcoin mining in 2025.
From the rise of AI hyperscalers competing for energy resources to the financial engineering transforming miners into sophisticated operators, this conversation dives deep into the challenges and opportunities shaping the future of the industry.
Key topics covered:
Why AI is Bitcoin mining’s most aggressive new competitor
How miners are evolving with BTC-backed loans and convertible notes
The shifting geopolitics of mining: U.S. vs. Latin America and Africa
What $100B in Bitcoin ETFs and sovereign reserves mean for adoption
The big picture: Bitcoin mining’s transformation into a global infrastructure industry
Whether you’re a crypto enthusiast, investor, or just curious about the intersection of technology, energy, and finance, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction: Bitcoin Mining Faces a New Kind of Competition
00:45 GoMining’s Role in Tokenized Bitcoin Mining
02:43 The Rise of AI Hyperscalers and Energy Market Disruption
03:15 Bitcoin Mining’s Flexibility vs. AI’s Energy Demands
06:15 Why AI Is a Formidable Competitor for Miners
08:09 The Power Struggle: Bitcoin Mining’s Future Amid AI Growth
09:02 Financial Engineering: How Miners Are Avoiding Liquidation
12:11 The Evolution of Bitcoin Mining into a Balance Sheet Business
16:57 Shifting Geopolitics: Latin America and Africa’s Mining Rise
20:36 U.S. Mining Dominance: Can It Adapt to Stay on Top?
24:50 Institutional Adoption: $100B in ETFs and Sovereign Reserves
28:40 Bitcoin’s Next Phase: Stability, Risks, and Financialization
31:10 Bitcoin as Digital Gold vs. Everyday Currency
34:51 The Role of Institutions and Whales in Bitcoin’s Future
37:00 The Big Picture: Bitcoin Mining’s Transformation by 2030
39:29 What Miners, Investors, and Policymakers Should Focus On
42:35 Closing Thoughts: GoMining’s Vision and What’s Next
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Ondo Finance is at the forefront of the real-world asset (RWA) revolution, bringing traditional financial products like U.S. treasuries, stocks, and ETFs onto blockchain rails. In this episode of the Defiant Podcast, Ian De Bode, Chief Strategy Officer at Ondo Finance, dives into democratizing access to financial markets for a global audience. By tokenizing assets, Ondo enables 24/7 mobility, seamless DeFi integration, and enhanced investor protections, all while addressing the inefficiencies of traditional finance.
Ian also shares insights into Ondo's upcoming tokenized equities launch, their innovative approach to liquidity and pricing, and the broader implications of regulatory clarity for the RWA space. With a mission to create open, global financial rails, Ondo is not just building products but laying the foundation for the future of finance.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to the DefiantPodcast01:30 - Welcoming Ian, Chief Strategy Officer at Ondo Finance01:55 - What is Ondo Finance?02:22 - Tokenizing Treasuries, Stocks, and ETFs03:12 - Solving Accessibility and Mobility in Finance04:50 - The Evolution of Ondo’s Tokenized Assets: OUSD and USDY07:04 - Comparing Ondo’s Products to Competitors Like BlackRock12:26 - Growth of Tokenized Treasuries and Regulatory Milestones20:26 - Ondo’s Plans for Tokenized Equities28:24 - Challenges and Opportunities in Tokenized Stocks33:02 - Ondo’s Layer 1 Blockchain and DeFi Integration38:52 - The Future of Real-World Assets on Chain44:13 - Ondo’s Long-Term Vision for Global Finance
What if blockchain technology could be as seamless as swiping a credit card or streaming your favorite show? In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Prabal Banerjee, co-founder of Avail and Former Research Lead at Polygon, to explore how he’s working to make that vision a reality. Prabal shares his insights on tackling some of the biggest challenges in the blockchain space, from data availability and scalability to fragmentation and user experience. His mission? To make blockchain invisible to the end user.
We also dive into the multichain future and why interoperability is the key to mass adoption. Prabal explains how Avail is building the infrastructure to unify the fragmented blockchain ecosystem and shares exciting news about Avail’s acquisition of Arcana, a move that could redefine how developers and users experience Web3.
Chapters:
00:00 Imagine a seamless blockchain world: Introducing Prabal Banerjee and today’s themes
02:18 What is Avail? Tackling scalability and fragmentation in a multichain world
03:55 Why fragmentation matters: The case for interoperability over single-chain dominance
08:11 Making blockchain invisible: Lessons from Web2 and the user experience problem
10:04 Bridging pain points: Why blockchain meta-interoperability is the future
16:16 The role of wallets and abstracting complexity for mass adoption
25:08 Interoperability between rollups and sovereign chains: Unlocking new possibilities
36:02 Beyond 8 billion users: The rise of agents and verifiable internet interactions
40:48 Avail’s acquisition of Arcana: What it means for developers and users
50:02 Lightning round: Blockchain problems, overhyped trends, and Prabal’s favorite chain
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Ellio Trades, Co-Founder of BlackHole, the fastest-growing decentralized exchange on Avalanche. Ellio shares his insights on the current state of the crypto market, including whether we're entering a new altcoin season or witnessing a slower, more sustainable growth cycle. He dives deep into the maturation of the crypto space, the role of institutional investors, and why this cycle could be the most significant in crypto history.
Ellio also unpacks the innovative mechanics behind BlackHole, from its V3.3 DEX model to its focus on creating deep liquidity and sustainable revenue. He explains how BlackHole is reshaping the DeFi landscape and why Avalanche was the perfect ecosystem for its launch. Watch now to gain valuable insights on the future of blockchain, decentralized finance, and the next wave of crypto adoption.
Chapters
00:00 The $10 Trillion Question: Is Altcoin Season Here?
00:04 Traditional Cycles vs. A New Crypto Paradigm
00:42 The Maturation of DeFi and Institutional Adoption
01:30 Introducing Ellio Trades and BlackHole
02:33 Bitcoin, Ethereum, and the Shift to Regulated Markets
03:45 Why Ethereum's Value Proposition is Finally Clicking
05:18 The Role of Wall Street in Crypto's Next Big Cycle
07:32 Balancing Supercycle Narratives with Traditional Cycles
10:33 DeFi's Undervalued Potential and Institutional Interest
12:23 Stablecoins and the Future of Blockchain Applications
16:04 Why BlackHole Chose Avalanche for Its Launch
18:42 BlackHole's Explosive Growth and Unique Features
23:03 How BlackHole's V3.3 Model Creates Deep Liquidity
30:28 Lessons from Past Projects and BlackHole's Innovations
35:02 The Long-Term Vision for BlackHole and DeFi
Step into the evolving world of virtual environments, where Decentraland is at the forefront of innovation. In this episode, we explore how interoperability is transforming the metaverse, enabling seamless integration across platforms and unlocking creative possibilities for users and developers alike. From NFTs and digital wearables to virtual real estate, we discuss how these advancements are reshaping the metaverse and fostering meaningful connections in a polarized digital age.
Join us as Kim Currier, Head of Partnerships and Marketing at Decentraland, shares insights on the resurgence of NFTs, the role of brands in creating immersive experiences, and the tools empowering creators to thrive. Whether you're a collector, a brand strategist, or simply curious about the metaverse, this episode offers a deep dive into the future of digital interaction and the cultural capital being built in virtual worlds.
Chapters:
00:00 The Rise and Fall of NFTs: From hype to utility
00:23 Driving Innovation in the Metaverse
00:33 Meet Kim Currier, Decentraland’s Head of Partnerships and Marketing
01:09 The Metaverse as a Social Hub: Immersive experiences for brands and users
01:30 Opportunities for Collectors and Brands
02:53 Cultural Shifts in NFTs: What’s fueling the 2025 resurgence?
04:45 Decentraland’s Unique Offerings in music, art, and social connection
08:03 Utility-Driven NFTs: Wearables, emotes, and smart wearables in Decentraland
13:17 No-code tools and community-driven innovation for creators
20:15 Virtual Spaces for Remote Teams: Offsites and community gatherings
27:33 Innovative builds in Decentraland
35:11 Brand Partnerships in the Metaverse
43:02 Onboarding the Masses: Decentraland as a gateway to Web3
47:10 Long-Term Vision: Building cultural capital and meaningful connections