The Due Dilly Podcast

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Due Dilly Advisory

3 episodes

1 week ago

Unpacking the mechanics of business moves that shape industries and environments. Deeply researched and culturally attuned insights you can use. Hosts Jonathan Jackson and Carl Joseph-Black breakdown structures,, and new markets, to help you know what's happening, and what might come next. The money is always talking. We help you listen.

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Episodes (3/3)

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How Events Become Big Businesses (and how to build your own)

Convenings and events are some of the most investible, profitable, and scalable ventures in the market right now. They are also still some of the most misunderstood This episode will help explain why, and where the opportunities are for you to build with people in mind. Jonathan opens up about the early start of AfroTech, and how it set a new standard for how and what convening can look and feel like. If you're building with people in mind, this episode is for you.

Things you'll learn:

Convening vs. event: Convenings are consistent, purpose‑driven gatherings that build trust and culture; events can be ad hoc one‑offs.
Business mechanics: Revenue stacks include pay‑to‑speak/panel, sponsorship tiers, installs, VIP access, and licensing of IP; scarcity and signal value drive pricing.
Deal flow dynamics: Convenings create concentrated access and relationship acceleration, where major deals close via serendipity and proximity, not boardrooms.
Valuation at scale: Convenings are still underpriced culture assets; the Informa–Ascential acquisition shows how bundling marquee convenings compounds distribution and credibility.
Creator leverage: Creators act as distribution networks—embedding with convenings or being integrated (e.g., ESPN with Katie Feeney)—bridging new audiences and monetizing access.

We cover:

(00:00) - Introduction to Convenings and Events
(01:48) - Events vs. Convenings
(06:38) - The Evolution of AfroTech
(13:10) - Types of Convenings: Tone Setters and Industry Standards
(23:38) - Deep Community Strategy
(25:44) - The Business Model of Convenings
(28:06) - Informa and Convenining Valuations
(34:18) - Friction creates Freedom
(38:33) - Concentrated Access and Relationship Acceleration
(41:08) - Design and Experience Architecture
(46:43) - Networks Are Betting On Creators
(50:31) - The Informa Acquisition and Valuation of Convenings
(53:28) - Creators as Distribution Networks
(56:30) - The Power of Friction and Premium Experiences

Key Sources:
At Cannes Lions, everyone is selling your attention - https://www.axios.com/2025/06/

Anima Iris Yacht - https://noblesse.yachts/anima-maris

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2 weeks ago

59 minutes

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IP over Everything: How Artists Can Grow and Protect Their Work

This week we're unpacking how artists and creatives into protected assets—and protected assets into scalable businesses.
Carl digs into what IP really is (copyrights, trademarks, patents), how to shield it with the right entities and licensing, and smart ways to fund projects with GP/LP structures so you keep control while partnering with brands and investors. If you make things, this episode shows you how to own them—and how to build with them. Carl also explores a brand new kind of structure that could revolutionize how creates and capital interact.

Things you'll learn:

Core IP mechanics: What IP is (copyright, trademark, patent), why it’s “property,” and how value accrues through novelty, story, and use.
Protection and structure: How to shield IP with entities, holdco vs. operating co, and license your name/image/works to isolate liability and keep control.
Transacting models: How creators can fund and monetize via Limited Partners (GP/LP structures),

We cover:

(00:00) - The Artist & The Corporation
(01:06) - What is Intellectual Property (IP)?
(01:07) - Introduction to Intellectual Property
(03:12) - Types of IP and Ownership
(07:54) - Protecting Your IP
(07:54) - How to Protect Your IP
(11:32) - Transacting with IP: The Artist Example
(17:18) - The Limited Partnership Model for Creators
(19:44) - Project-Based IP Structures
(25:05) - LLCs vs Limited Partnerships
(26:46) - C Corporations and Scaling IP
(30:05) - Why the LP Model Benefits Brands and Creators
(41:08) - Emerging Models: Public Benefit Corporations
(43:29) - The Artist Corporation (A Corp)
(55:42) - The Future of Creator Economy and IP
(57:47) - The Value of Legal Structure for Creators
(59:16) - The Value of Legal Counsel
(01:04:17) - Credits and Outro

Key References:

A New Era of Creativity - https://youtu.be/cAxpMGIN9io

Artist Corporations - https://www.artistcorporations.com/

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1 month ago

1 hour 4 minutes

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Why Creators Are Worth Billions

Everyone is talking about the 'creator economy'. But what does it mean? What makes a "creator" a "creator"? And why is Wall Street pumping billions into it?

In this episode, (and this season) we are focused on unpacking what the creator economy is, how is it is being value, what is underpinning it, and how creators are starting to take on investment If you're a creator yourself, work in media, entertainment, or finance, this is for you.

Things You'll Learn:

Why (and how) money is flowing into creators and tools they use
How ownership of the full value chain flips leverage
How creators are becoming investible (and why that matters)

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) - Introduction to Due Dilly
(00:31) - What is the Creator Economy?
(03:55) - Goldman Sachs Report: The $500B Creator Economy
(08:50) - The Shift from Traditional Intermediaries
(13:31) - How Creators Own the Entire Value Chain
(17:22) - The Future of Angel Investing in Creators
(18:48) - Where the Money is Coming From
(19:23) - Slow Ventures: Investing Directly in Creators
(20:31) - Case Study: Jonathan Katz Moses - Woodworking Empire
(23:07) - Building Your Own Mini Home Depot
(23:57) - VCs Investing in Creator Infrastructure
(28:05) - The Scale of Capital Deployment
(29:16) - Leveraging Multiple Platforms
(32:51) - Private Equity Enters the Creator Economy
(36:37) - Understanding Different Investment Perspectives
(38:07) - Thinking Like a Company, Not Just Talent
(41:05) - YouTube's Dominance: 13% of All TV Consumption
(44:01) - Case Study: Zach Bia and Field Trip Records
(47:20) - Closing Thoughts: Follow the Money

Key References:

Goldman Sachs report: https://creatorswithinfluence.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Goldman-Sachs-Global-Investment-Research-Creator-Economy-Framing-Market-Opportunity-Download-Report-March-26-2025.pdf
Doug Shapiro: https://dougshapiro.substack.com/p/tectonic-trends-in-media
Mary Meeker Internet Trends https://www.bondcap.com/#specialreports
Slow Ventures Investment https://slowupload.beehiiv.com/p/our-first-creator-fund-investment-jonathan-katz-moses