In this episode of The In-Between, Evan sits down with Jason DeMeo—artist, designer, keynote speaker, and co-founder of We Are Curio. Jason’s vocational journey has taken him from corporate call centers to church leadership, from vintage Etsy shops to full-time abstract art.

Through it all, a common thread emerges: the courage to listen to what’s stirring underneath—and the willingness to follow it.Jason shares how the arc of his life has followed five-to-seven-year creative seasons, what it feels like when the old ways stop fitting, and how art became a way to trust emergence rather than force outcomes.

He reflects on what it means to navigate change through intuition, spiritual listening, and play—and why side projects matter more than we think.We talk about the sacred mess of the creative process, why permission is often what we’re waiting for (even if we don’t say it), and how artistic intelligence is something every person carries—not just trained artists or creatives.He also introduces the AWE framework (Adopt the mindset, Work the practice, Exhibit the art) and explains how memory fragments, reverse abstraction, and gold leaf became not just materials, but metaphors for meaning.Takeaways: 👉 How push and pull can help us discern when it’s time to shift—or stay 👉 Why transitions often begin with discomfort before clarity 👉 The story of how Jason moved from consulting to art without a formal background 👉 What “reverse abstraction” and “memory fragments” teach us about healing and integration 👉 Why every artist needs a sacred space and regular practice 👉 The difference between being an artist for others and creating for yourself 👉 Why Jason believes artistry is inherent—and how to begin recovering it 👉 A commissioning to see yourself as art and live from that truth

This episode is for anyone wondering what to do with that side project that won’t leave you alone, anyone standing at the edge of “what’s next,” or anyone who needs to hear that creating from your truest self isn’t just allowed—it’s essential.If you liked this video, please give it a thumbs up 👍 , subscribe, and share it with your friends.📝 Show Notes: https://itstheinbetween.com/episode24-jason-demeo/