What The Future Church Looks Like with Kathryn Maack from Dwellings

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The In-Between

Evan Doyle

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Welcome to The In-Betweeen—a space for anyone navigating from the familiar to the unknown. Whether you’re facing a personal, professional, or spiritual disruption, these conversations are here to help guide you through the questions, uncertainties, and opportunities that come with change. Hear from leaders, thinkers, and storytellers who’ve found their way forward—and learn how you can, too. No matter where you’re starting, you don’t have to navigate this alone. Are you unsure of what's next for you? Join my email course to clarify your next step: https://itstheinbetween.com/

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What The Future Church Looks Like with Kathryn Maack from Dwellings

The In-Between

44 minutes 51 seconds

8 months ago

What The Future Church Looks Like with Kathryn Maack from Dwellings

In this conversation, Kathryn Maack, founder of Dwellings and author of Whole: The Life-Changing Power of Relating to God with All of Yourself, shares her journey of rethinking church, discipleship, and community.

Kathryn’s story challenges traditional ministry models and offers a compelling vision for how believers can gather around God’s presence in a decentralized, organic way.

She opens up about the tension she felt while serving in a megachurch—questioning whether traditional methods were truly forming disciples—and how that tension led her to step into something new.

Kathryn also shares the faith-filled leap she took, trusting God’s provision when she left her full-time ministry job to pursue what eventually became Dwellings.

If you’ve ever felt a disconnect between how church has been done and how you long to experience it, this episode will give you encouragement, practical wisdom, and a fresh perspective on what the future of church could look like.

Takeaways:

👉 Your holy discontent could be God’s invitation. If you feel restless about the way church is done, it may be the Spirit stirring something new.
👉 God provides when we step out in faith. Kathryn shares how she took a leap without financial security—only for God to miraculously meet her needs.
👉 Church can look different—and still be biblical. Gathering in homes, prioritizing participation, and focusing on the presence of Jesus reflect the early church’s model.
👉 People are hungry for spiritual depth, not just information. Access to sermons is everywhere, but true discipleship happens in community and practice.
👉 From spectators to participants. The church’s future depends on shifting from passive listening to active engagement.
👉 Bivocational ministry is a growing reality. Many leaders are finding ways to serve without relying on a church salary—and it’s working.
👉 Let go of control and trust God. Releasing leadership to others can feel risky, but movement and multiplication happen when people are empowered.

This episode is for anyone questioning how church is done, feeling called to something new, or longing for deeper community and discipleship.

📝 Show Notes: https://itstheinbetween.com/episode13-kathryn-maack/