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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
100 episodes
23 hours ago
The Interpreter Foundation is a nonprofit educational organization focused on the scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, the Bible, and the Doctrine and Covenants), early LDS history, and related subjects. All publications in its journal, Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship, are peer-reviewed and made available as free internet downloads or through at-cost print-on-demand services. Other posts on the website are not necessarily peer-reviewed, but are approved by Interpreter’s Executive Board.

Our goal is to increase understanding of scripture through careful scholarly investigation and analysis of the insights provided by a wide range of ancillary disciplines, including language, history, archaeology, literature, culture, ethnohistory, art, geography, law, politics, philosophy, statistics, etc. Interpreter will also publish articles advocating the authenticity and historicity of LDS scripture and the Restoration, along with scholarly responses to critics of the LDS faith. We hope to illuminate, by study and faith, the eternal spiritual message of the scriptures—that Jesus is the Christ.

Although the Board fully supports the goals and teachings of the Church, The Interpreter Foundation is an independent entity and is not owned, controlled by, or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or with Brigham Young University. All research and opinions provided on this site are the sole responsibility of their respective authors, and should not be interpreted as the opinions of the Board nor as official statements of LDS doctrine, belief, or practice.
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The Interpreter Foundation is a nonprofit educational organization focused on the scriptures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, the Bible, and the Doctrine and Covenants), early LDS history, and related subjects. All publications in its journal, Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship, are peer-reviewed and made available as free internet downloads or through at-cost print-on-demand services. Other posts on the website are not necessarily peer-reviewed, but are approved by Interpreter’s Executive Board.

Our goal is to increase understanding of scripture through careful scholarly investigation and analysis of the insights provided by a wide range of ancillary disciplines, including language, history, archaeology, literature, culture, ethnohistory, art, geography, law, politics, philosophy, statistics, etc. Interpreter will also publish articles advocating the authenticity and historicity of LDS scripture and the Restoration, along with scholarly responses to critics of the LDS faith. We hope to illuminate, by study and faith, the eternal spiritual message of the scriptures—that Jesus is the Christ.

Although the Board fully supports the goals and teachings of the Church, The Interpreter Foundation is an independent entity and is not owned, controlled by, or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or with Brigham Young University. All research and opinions provided on this site are the sole responsibility of their respective authors, and should not be interpreted as the opinions of the Board nor as official statements of LDS doctrine, belief, or practice.
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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Come, Follow Me Podcast: Doctrine & Covenants 135 – 136 for November 24 – 30


 
In the November 5 Come, Follow Me segment of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Martin Tanner, Hales Swift, and Brent Schmidt discuss the Come, Follow Me Doctrine & Covenants lesson for November 24 – 30 covering D&C 135 – 136.
You can listen to or download the Come, Follow Me segment of the November 5th episode of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The Discussion segment of the November 5th podcast can be accessed at https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-podcast-november-5-2025.
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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23 hours ago
52 minutes 32 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Finding the Elect Lady
Review of Lincoln H. Blumell, Lady Eclecte: The Lost Woman of the New Testament (Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2025). 314 pages. $48.00 (hardcover).
Abstract: For centuries, the consensus reading of 2 John 1 maintained that the epistle was written to a local church, metaphorically addressed as an “elect lady.” This has most especially been the case over the last 150 years of scholarship. However, new findings from Lincoln Blumell challenge the consensus reading, restoring the elect lady to her proper place as an actual individual in the early Christian world. This lady, moreover, can be identified by name, and it is only through haplography that confusion over her identity has been introduced at all. Blumell’s restoration of the text of 2 John 1, based on papyrological and manuscript evidence, is groundbreaking work that will shape scholarship on the New Testament and early Christianity for years to come.


Before my review formally begins, a disclosure is needed. During my studies at Brigham Young University, I was fortunate to work as a research assistant for Lincoln Blumell. During this time, he came across his findings that would eventually be published as Lady Eclecte: The Lost Woman of the New Testament.1 I reviewed and read each chapter of the book at various stages of the writing process, often multiple times. Aware of any bias I may have, I nonetheless [Page 72]highly encourage any and all readers interested in the New Testament to read this book.
Blumell’s work revisits an often-overlooked epistle in the New Testament, 2 John. Moreover, it focuses almost entirely on a single verse—in fact, it could be more accurate to say that it focuses almost entirely on the first four words in the Greek text of 2 John 1, typically translated as “The elder, to the elect lady” (Ὁ πρεσβύτερος ἐκλεκτῇ κυρίᾳ). The opening address to this letter has been so securely steeped in tradition that various attempts to understand the irregular Greek formula (and otherwise unattested form of address) have been presented over the years, without considering the possibility that the received reading is incorrect. Blumell, however, argues precisely that—and provides plenty of evidence for why the received reading should be emended (p. 83–84).
Utilizing his training in papyrology and the New Testament, Blumell is uniquely qualified to address this letter. This letter, after all, notes that it was originally written on papyrus: “Although I have much to write to you, I would rather not use papyrus and ink” (2 John 1:12; translation found on p. 59). Indeed, Blumell shows many correspondences between 2 John and other Greco-Roman papyri that have been preserved, showing that it is a typical letter of the first century AD, rather than an imagined “literary fiction” as other scholars have attempted to argue (pp. 58–70). And, as this epistle matches other papyri in length, style, and phraseology, so too did its original address: “The elder, to the lady Eclecte” (Ἐκλέκτῃ τῇ κυρίᾳ), meaning this epistle was written to an actual woman in the early Christian church (p. 83).
By emending the address in this way, the word elect is translated as a name, followed by the definite article (τῇ), followed by the word lady in the dative as a modifier. This address “conforms to the typical pattern of address in Roman-period letters that is also attested in 3 John 1,” with the definite article having been lost in a simple case of haplography (pp. 70, 83). This reading does, however, result in a few questions: 1) How does this reading make sense of the epistolary evidence? 2) Is this reading even attested in the manuscript evidence? And 3) Is the name Eclecte even attested?
Blumell answers each of these questions in full,
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4 days ago
17 minutes 19 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Podcast — November 6, 2025


 
In the November 6 episode of The Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Terry Hutchinson, Kevin Christensen, and Mark Johnson interview special guest D. John Butler, who raised funds benefiting the family of the Michigan chapel shooter. The audio track is also included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feed/podcast).
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests of the show. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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5 days ago
1 hour 3 minutes 39 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Come, Follow Me Podcast: Doctrine & Covenants 133 – 134 for November 17 – 23


 
In the October 29 Come, Follow Me segment of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Terry Hutchinson, John Gee, and John Thompson discuss the Come, Follow Me Doctrine & Covenants lesson for November 17 – 23 covering D&C 133 – 134.
You can listen to or download the Come, Follow Me segment of the October 29th episode of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The Discussion segment of the October 29th podcast can be accessed at https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-podcast-october-29-2025.
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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1 week ago
50 minutes 29 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Historical and Stylometric Evidence for the Authorship of Doctrine and Covenants 132
Abstract: This paper examines the claim that Joseph Smith was not the author of the verses in Doctrine and Covenants 132 related to the doctrine of plural marriage. Our examination first describes the current controversy on the authorship of section 132. We next present historical evidence on the provenance of this section. We then present stylometric evidence on the possible authorship of the text. While it has been asserted that Brigham Young or perhaps some other individual was the author of section 132, our examination provides solid support for the Church’s claimed origin of the section. Our extensive statistical analyses indicate there is no stylometric evidence that Brigham Young or any other potential candidate provided the words in the text of the revelation.


There is an ongoing debate over Joseph Smith’s teachings about and involvement in plural marriage. Polygamy revisionists are currently asserting that Joseph Smith did not practice polygamy and that the revelation on plural marriage documented in Doctrine and Covenants 132 was added to the text sometime after his death. Some have suggested that Brigham Young was the author of the words related to plural marriage. For example, Richard and Pamela Price state:
Those familiar with Joseph Smith’s prophetic linguistic style have long recognized that Section 132 just does not sound like him when compared to other prophecies by him in the [Page 2]Doctrine and Covenants. In his private writings and letters, Joseph’s style is remarkably erudite, poetic, upbeat, and greathearted. And his verifiable prophetic writings that were published by the Church during his lifetime are known for their marvelous ideation and spiritual majesty. The above words [Doctrine and Covenants 132] . . . do not flow melodically, nor do the ideas build empirically to an uplifting crescendo, as do Joseph’s. Instead, they are delivered haltingly and grate at the listener’s sensibilities. They sound as if they were authored by a man whose writings are known for their desultory and gruff style. They sound like the words of Brigham Young.1
We examine the issues related to the authorship of Doctrine and Covenants 132 in three parts:

* Part One: Current Controversy About the Authorship
* Part Two: Historical Evidence for Authorship
* Part Three: Authorial Stylometric Analysis

It is the goal and purpose of this paper to evaluate the claims regarding the authorship of section 132, both from a historical and a stylometric perspective, taking into consideration not only the claims that someone other than Joseph Smith is the source of the text, but also the claim that the revelation was received years earlier than when it was transcribed.
Part One: Current Controversy About the Authorship of Section 132
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1 week ago
1 hour 32 minutes 36 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Podcast — November 5, 2025


 
In the November 5 episode of The Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Martin Tanner, Hales Swift, and Brent Schmidt discuss the life and personality of Joseph Smith. The audio track is also included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feed/podcast).
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests of the show. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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1 week ago
26 minutes 36 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Come, Follow Me Podcast: Doctrine & Covenants 129 – 132 for November 10 – 16


 
In the October 15th Come, Follow Me segment of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Martin Tanner, Kris Frederickson and Bruce Webster discuss the Come, Follow Me Doctrine & Covenants lesson for November 10 – 16 covering D&C 129 – 132.
You can listen to or download the Come, Follow Me segment of the October 15th episode of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The Discussion segment of the October 15th podcast can be accessed at https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-podcast-october-15-2025.
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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2 weeks ago
50 minutes 13 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
“A Voice of Warning”
Abstract: The Restoration of the Gospel began in an atmosphere of ardent and urgent expectations of the Second Coming of Christ. We are, after all, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Those expectations were shared far beyond the ranks of those who eventually joined the Church. But the early nineteenth-century men and women who did become Latter-day Saints were commanded that, having been warned, they should warn their neighbors. However, nearly two full centuries since the founding of the Church, and more than two centuries since Joseph Smith’s First Vision, the Lord’s Second Advent has still not arrived. Does that mean that this isn’t a time for warning? That the time to warn our neighbors hasn’t yet come? No, not at all. We remain under the divinely given obligation to spread the word and, yes, to warn. And there are many ways to do so.


The most important of the Latter-day Saint missionary tracts of the nineteenth century, by a considerable distance, was Parley P. Pratt’s A Voice of Warning. By that time a member of the still-new Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Elder Pratt wrote the lengthy text over a two-month period while on a mission to New York, and it was published in 1837. Eventually, it appeared in more than thirty English editions and was translated into several other languages. In it, Elder Pratt detailed differences between the still-developing doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and those of other Christian denominations. He used biblical texts to explain the Restoration, described the recovery of the Book of Mormon, proclaimed the Latter-day Saint belief in modern-day revelation, and outlined some of the events that would precede the Second Coming of Christ.
It’s perhaps a little bit difficult for us, now a quarter of the way [Page viii]through the twenty-first century and drawing ever nearer to the dawn of the Church’s third hundred years, to appreciate the significance of A Voice of Warning. But Latter-day Saints had created only a small body of writing by 1837, so it loomed large for that reason alone. And, even physically, it wasn’t small: Printed editions of it range between 133 and 248 pages in length; the audiobook version of it runs nearly five-and-a-half hours.
The English Book of Mormon was less than a decade old by 1837, the Doctrine and Covenants had only been published in 1835, and the Pearl of Great Price was still decades in the future. However, A Voice of Warning was important for far more than its relative literary bulk within the nonscriptural literature of the fledgling Restoration. In it, Parley Pratt set forth an orderly account of Latter-day Saint beliefs as they stood at the time and created many of the scriptural arguments that members of the Church have used ever since to elucidate, justify, and defend their faith. They’re familiar to us now, but they were once new.
I’m interested here, though, in the title that he chose for his pioneering work: A Voice of Warning. It’s fairly clear that the first Latter-day Saints expected the Second Advent of the Savior to come much sooner than it has—every meteor shower seemed to be a sign that the Lord’s coming was very near at hand—and I think it safe to say that our sense of the imminence of that event has lessened quite a bit. Perhaps, indeed, a bit too much. For “the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night” (1 Thessalonians 5:2). The Second Epistle of Peter exhorts its audience
That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. . . .
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
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2 weeks ago
13 minutes 39 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Podcast — October 29, 2025


 
In the October 29, 2025 episode of The Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Terry Hutchinson, John Gee, and John Thompson interview special guest Richard E. Turley Jr. about President Dallin Oaks (Turley is the author of In the Hands of the Lord: The Life of Dallin H. Oaks) and Turley’s upcoming Joseph the Prophet biography commissioned by the First Presidency. The audio track is also included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast).
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests of the show. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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2 weeks ago
46 minutes 27 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Come, Follow Me Podcast: Doctrine & Covenants 125 – 128 for November 3 – 9


 
In the October 7th Come, Follow Me segment of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Terry Hutchinson, Kevin Christensen, and Mark Johnson discuss the Come, Follow Me Doctrine & Covenants lesson for November 3 – 9 covering D&C 125 – 128.
You can listen to or download the Come, Follow Me segment of the October 7th episode of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The Discussion segment of the October 7th podcast can be accessed at https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-podcast-october-7-2025.
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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3 weeks ago
40 minutes 4 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
“His Secret is with the Righteous”: Instructional Wisdom in the Book of Mormon
Abstract: This study argues that the Book of Mormon both adopts and develops the instructional wisdom tradition found in Proverbs 1–9 and other pre-exilic Near-Eastern texts. After outlining the structure, rhetoric, and themes of Hebrew instructional wisdom, it tracks those features through major Book of Mormon discourses. Particular attention is given to the personification of Wisdom, the tree-of-life and great-whore polarity, temple motifs, and the democratic invitation to pursue the “mysteries of God” through personal revelation. The analysis suggests that Book of Mormon authors preserve a strand of Israelite temple wisdom largely suppressed in the post-exilic biblical record. By reading restored scripture back into its ancient literary context, the paper offers fresh insight into both corpora: Proverbs’ “enigmas” become transparently eschatological, while the Book of Mormon’s doctrinal core takes on new depth as a deliberate wisdom inheritance. The study concludes that recognizing this shared sapiential framework clarifies the Book of Mormon’s purpose as a covenant guide and underscores its claim to recover “plain and most precious” truths lost from the biblical canon.


[Editor’s Note: This article originally appeared as Alyson Skabelund Von Feldt, “‘His Secret Is with the Righteous’: Instructional Wisdom in the Book of Mormon,” FARMS Occasional Papers 5 (2007): 49–83. As this important paper is not currently available online, it is reprinted here for the benefit of our readers. It has been updated and edited by the author.]
[Page 438]While studying the topic of personal revelation a number of years ago, a furious cross-referencing of Doctrine and Covenants 76 landed me in the Old Testament book of Proverbs, and I stopped to explore the territory. I turned to chapter 1 and read straight through until the wonder wore off somewhere after chapter 8. I first understood the dominant message to be an impassioned invitation to search for the knowledge of the mysteries of God, to seek personal revelation. But a note fell out of my Bible that I must have made some time before when preparing a Gospel Doctrine lesson or studying for a BYU religion test. It characterized Proverbs as “a collection of folk sayings; hard to see as scripture.” This did not seem an apt description of the passages I had just breathlessly encountered.
Over the years, I have learned that my reading of Proverbs 1–9 that night was unusual. Though scholars recognize that the author beseeches the reader to find wisdom, they almost always take this to be practical knowledge about how to live life richly, rather than how to obtain the riches of eternal life.1
What has also surprised me is that many of the writers of the Book of Mormon were familiar with the literary forms, themes, and vocabulary of Hebrew wisdom literature, of which Proverbs 1–9 is an example, and made them part of their own sacred recordkeeping. What’s more, Book of Mormon authors clearly understood the search for wisdom to be a quest for eternal life and the mysteries of God.
This paper begins with a short introduction to Hebrew wisdom literature. I will then turn to an exploration of similarities between selected Old Testament wisdom texts, primarily Proverbs 1–9, and passages in the Book of Mormon, and I will investigate how the two sources elucidate each other.
Instructional Wisdom in Ancient Israel and the Near East
Scholars believe that wisdom sayings develop naturally in families and villages because of the human need to capture and distill the lessons of life and make them memorable. A literary wisdom tradition emerged anciently throughout the Near East, particularly in Egypt and Mesopotamia.Show more...
3 weeks ago
1 hour 58 minutes 45 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Podcast — October 15, 2025


 
In the October 15, 2025 episode of The Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Martin Tanner, Kris Frederickson and Bruce Webster discuss the new First Presidency and the shooting at the Chapel in Grand Blanc, Michigan. You can listen to or download the discussion segment of the podcast episode below. The audio track is also included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast).
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests of the show. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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4 weeks ago
48 minutes 16 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Come, Follow Me Podcast: Doctrine & Covenants 124 for October 27 – November 2


 
In the October 5th Come, Follow Me segment of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Martin Tanner, Hales Swift, and Brent Schmidt discuss the Come, Follow Me Doctrine & Covenants lesson for October 27 – November 2 covering D&C 124.
You can listen to or download the Come, Follow Me segment of the October 5th episode of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The Discussion segment of the October 5th podcast can be accessed at https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-podcast-october-5-2025.
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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4 weeks ago
55 minutes 59 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
The Literary Structure of Alma 21–22
Abstract: This article is part two of an analysis of the literary structure of Alma 17–27. The current article analyzes the literary structure of Alma 21–22, which is “an account of the preaching of Aaron and Muloki and their brethren to the Lamanites” as noted in the heading before Alma 21. These two chapters were originally a single chapter in the first edition of the Book of Mormon. When Alma 21–22 is treated as a single chapter, it appears to have been organized into an extended parallel structure (A-B-C-A'-B'-C') in which matching elements share many strong links and parallels. This literary structure highlights the extraordinary range of missionary experiences that can occur while preaching the gospel. There also appears to be an eight-element chiasm that consists of Alma 21–22 and the conclusion to the preaching efforts of the sons of Mosiah in the first fifteen verses of Alma 23. This is the second of three macro-chiasms characterizing the overall structure of Alma 17–27.


As a follow-up to a previous article, “The Literary Structure of Alma 17–20,”1 this article is a literary analysis of the next original chapter of the Book of Mormon, Alma 13, which comprises Alma 21–22 in the 2013 edition of the Book of Mormon.2 The same methodology [Page 404]used in that article to identify and analyze literary units is used here as well.3 As recorded in the heading before Alma 21, the narrative shifts from an account of Ammon’s activities among the Lamanites to “the preaching of Aaron and Muloki and their brethren to the Lamanites.” This chapter includes Aaron’s preaching to the king over all the land (Lamoni’s father) in the land of Nephi and his subsequent conversion unto the Lord.
Much like Ammon’s preaching to the Lamanites in the land of Ishmael and Lamoni’s conversion unto the Lord, events from Alma 21–22 had lasting ramifications for both the Lamanites and the Nephites. In Alma 17–20, the literary structure is highly detailed and carefully crafted. It is, therefore, not surprising to find tight literary structure and careful attention to detail in this chapter as well. The six major literary units in this chapter form an extended parallel structure (A-B-C-A'-B'-C') in which the matching units share significant keywords, phrases, and themes.
In addition to this overall structure for Alma 21–22, the first fifteen verses of Alma 23 are analyzed in this article. A previous article, “The Literary Structure of Alma 23–27,”4 includes a proposal for a macro-chiasm that begins with Alma 23:16. The outer boundaries of the macro-chiasm are effectively framed by...
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1 month ago
1 hour 29 minutes 50 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Podcast — September 23, 2025


 
In the September 23, 2025 episode of The Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Martin Tanner and Bruce Webster discuss insights on Marriage, The Family: A Proclamation to the World, and low marriage rates. You can listen to or download the discussion segment of the podcast episode below. The audio track is also included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast).
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast is a weekly discussion of matters of interest to the hosts and guests of the show. The views expressed on the Interpreter Podcast are those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Interpreter Foundation, nor should statements made on the show be construed as official doctrinal statements of the Church.
 
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1 month ago
17 minutes 52 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Nibley Lectures: Come, Follow Me Doctrine and Covenants 121
1 month ago
32 minutes 31 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Nibley Lectures: Come, Follow Me Doctrine and Covenants 121-123
During 1978, 1979, and 1980, Hugh Nibley taught a Doctrine and Covenants Sunday School class. Cassette recordings were made of these classes and some have survived and were digitized by Steve Whitlock and recently enhanced by Nick Galieti. Most of the tapes were in pretty bad condition. The original recordings usually don’t stop or start at the beginning of the class and there is some background noise. Volumes vary, probably depending upon where the recorder was placed in the room. Many are very low volume but in most cases it’s possible to understand the words. In a couple of cases the ends of one class were put on some space left over from a different class. There’s some mixup around D&C90-100 that couldn’t be figured out so those recordings are as they were on the tapes. Even with these flaws and missing classes, we believe these these will be interesting to listen to and valuable to your Come, Follow Me study program.
This week we have two lectures relevant to the October 20 to 26 Come, Follow Me lesson, “O God, Where Art Thou?” covering 121 through 23.
All 26 recordings are available immediately as follows:

* In the Complete Bibliography for Hugh Nibley (CBHN) at https://interpreterfoundation.org/bibliographies/hugh-w-nibley/lectures/
* Come, Follow Me Resource Index: Doctrine and Covenants — 2021 at https://interpreterfoundation.org/come-follow-me/doctrine-covenants-2021-index/

 
Doctrine and Covenants 117-121: Recorded March 9, 1980






Doctrine and Covenants 121: Recorded March 16, 1980




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1 month ago
34 minutes

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Come, Follow Me Podcast: Doctrine & Covenants 121–123 for October 20 – 26


 
In the September 24th Come, Follow Me segment of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Terry Hutchinson. John Gee, and John Thompson discuss the Come, Follow Me Doctrine & Covenants lesson for October 20 – 26 covering D&C 121–123.
You can listen to or download the Come, Follow Me segment of the September 24th episode of the Interpreter Foundation Podcast below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The Discussion segment of the September 24th podcast can be accessed at https://interpreterfoundation.org/interpreter-podcast-september-24-2025.
 




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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Reading Disciple Consistently As New-world Apostle in the Book of Mormon
Abstract: In the Book of Mormon, the term disciple occurs fifty-five times. Of those, forty-eight are unambiguous references to the Twelve called by the risen Christ to preside over his new-world Church. The remaining six instances could plausibly be read either as references to more generic followers of Jesus or as references to the Nephite Twelve. If they are read as references to the Nephite Twelve, subtle themes emerge, generating insights into Mormon’s life, the apostasy in 4 Nephi, Mormon’s letters to his son, and the translation process of the Book of Mormon.


If one reads the Book of Mormon in translation order,1 Mormon first introduces himself to the readers in 3 Nephi:
And behold, I am called Mormon . . . Behold, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I have been called of him to declare his word among his people, that they might have everlasting life. (3 Nephi 5:12–13)
Mormon’s pulling back of the editorial curtain seems to come rather suddenly and with little foreshadowing. In his self-introduction, Mormon declares, “I am a disciple of Jesus Christ.” At a surface reading, Mormon appears to be self-identifying as one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, as we continue to read the [Page 386]Book of Mormon, it becomes clear that the term disciple has a much narrower use in Mormon’s narrative. It next occurs in 3 Nephi 15:12, [Page 386]when Jesus is addressing the twelve men he has set apart to lead his Church in the New World. From then on, in every other instance in 3 Nephi (twenty-nine more occurrences) the term unambiguously refers to this group of twelve men whom, for my purposes, I will label new-world apostles.2
Disciples Versus Apostles
The Book of Mormon writers, as a whole, are aware of the term apostle, but it appears only sixteen times. Thirteen of the occurrences are in 1 Nephi 11–14 as references to the old-world apostles.3 They are deliberately differentiated from the Nephite Twelve in 1 Nephi 12:8-10. This is when the angel tells Nephi that the Twelve Disciples “chosen to minister unto thy seed” will themselves be judged by the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb in the Old World. This is a point reiterated hundreds of years later by Mormon (Mormon 3:19). The remaining occurrences of apostle are Mormon 9:18, where Moroni states that apostles perform miracles; Ether 12:41, where Moroni says that prophets and apostles have written of Jesus; and Moroni 2:2, which records some of Christ’s instructions to the Nephite Twelve that end with “for thus do mine apostles.” These twelve Nephite men are never formally labeled apostles in the Book of Mormon, but they are clearly called as the leaders of the new-world Church and in Moroni 2:2 their office is analogous to that of apostle. While some commentators read the Nephite Twelve as identical in apostolic office to the old-world Twelve,
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The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
Interpreter Podcast — October 7, 2025


 
In the October 7, 2025 episode of The Interpreter Foundation Podcast, our hosts Terry Hutchinson, Kevin Christensen, and Mark Johnson discuss the passing of President Nelson and General Conference. You can listen to or download the discussion segment of the podcast episode below. The audio track is also included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast).
 




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41 minutes 26 seconds

The Interpreter Foundation Podcast
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