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The Leadership Equation Podcast
Anupal Banerjee
18 episodes
1 week ago
In today’s fast-evolving business landscape, one constant remains: people and capability building. These dynamic forces drive organizational success. While strategies, markets, and technologies shift, transforming people and capabilities remains the cornerstone of sustained impact. In a world fixated on quick fixes, The Leadership Equation dives deep into institutional transformation with leaders who have shaped global organizations. Join us to uncover timeless principles that bridge vision and execution and unlock lasting success.
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In today’s fast-evolving business landscape, one constant remains: people and capability building. These dynamic forces drive organizational success. While strategies, markets, and technologies shift, transforming people and capabilities remains the cornerstone of sustained impact. In a world fixated on quick fixes, The Leadership Equation dives deep into institutional transformation with leaders who have shaped global organizations. Join us to uncover timeless principles that bridge vision and execution and unlock lasting success.
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Episodes (18/18)
The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 17: Human-Centered Transformation

What if transformation isn’t a technical challenge, but a human one? 


In this episode of The Leadership Equation Podcast, Nitin Paranjpe redefines transformation through a human-centred lens. He examines why organisations repeatedly miss the mark, where leaders misread motivation, and how structural care becomes a competitive edge. 


What’s Inside: 

  • The four silent reasons transformations fail 

  • Why one compelling story can never unite everyone 

  • The overlooked “people case” for change 

  • Behaviour change: the most underestimated leadership task 

  • A radical model that avoids layoffs while improving competitiveness 

  • What true care looks like in action 

Real transformation begins only when people stop fearing the future you’re asking them to build. 


Watch & listen to all episodes on People Equation, YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. 

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1 week ago
27 minutes 39 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 16: The Human Architecture of Extraordinary Outcomes

Can leaders design workplaces where people choose to go the extra mile, not because they must, but because they want to? 
 

Nitin Paranjpe reveals the human architecture behind institutional greatness: a vision that matters, conditions that invite heroism, and leadership that is visibly invested. This conversation surfaces practical moves leaders can make to increase pride, trust and discretionary effort. 

What’s included: 
• Why ambition > resources can be productive when three human conditions coexist. 
• Stories of restoring organisational pride and mojo. 
• A new model of culture-strategy coherence and humane transformation. 

If you want to change outcomes, start by changing the human conditions that make people stay and stretch. 


Also available on 

People Equation

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2 weeks ago
23 minutes 57 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 15: From Belonging To Breakthroughs: A Leader’s Making

How do leaders turn audacity into repeatable results? 

In this Episode, Nitin Paranjpe walks through mentor moments, the humility of failure, and a transformative idea from C.K. Prahalad, that breakthrough requires a deliberate gap between ambition and resource.

He explains the four lessons he learned the hard way and the three human conditions leaders must create to let people be heroic. 

What’s included: 

  • Early career lessons about belonging and standards. 

  • A failure that reshaped priorities and thinking. 

  • The ambition>resource experiment and its people-led outcomes. 

  • A leader’s checklist: create meaning, safety, and trust. 

What audacious, meaningful target would you set if fear of failure were removed? 


Available on People Equation, YouTube and Apple Podcasts as well. 

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3 weeks ago
45 minutes 33 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 14: Foundational Beliefs That Make Institutions into More Than a Company with Nitin Paranjpe

Some institutions rise because their leaders build with conviction that outlasts generations. 

In this episode of The Leadership Equation Podcast, Nitin Paranjpe reflects on the foundational beliefs that shaped Hindustan Unilever into more than a company, an institution rooted in purpose, long-term thinking, and nation-first intent. 
Through lived stories, leadership moments, and cultural choices, the conversation reveals what truly anchors organisational strength. 

What’s inside the episode: 

  • How long-range commitment and nation-aligned decisions shaped HUL’s institutional character. 

  • The talent philosophy that built generations of leaders through raw-talent scouting and deep field immersion. 

  • Real moments that tested integrity and defined culture — including crisis decisions that set the company’s moral backbone. 

  • A powerful message for founders on earning respect, sustaining performance, and building organisations with soul. 

As you listen, consider this: If your organisation were remembered for one defining belief, what would you want it to be? 


Watch & listen on People Equation, YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and continue the full 4-episode series. 

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1 month ago
27 minutes 30 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 13: The Quiet Failure of Success: Inside the GCC Conundrum with Dinesh Deo

Everyone talks about scaling Global Capability Centers (GCCs), but few dare to ask, what truly keeps them from failing? Or better yet, what separates enduring value creators from glorified cost arbitrage engines? 

In this powerhouse episode, we dive deep into the invisible levers that make or break a GCC, not just at launch, but in the long arc of relevance, value, and evolution. 

In this masterclass, we unpack: 

  • Why some GCCs never “fail,” but never succeed either, the trap of limited success 

  • What it takes to shift India from being a cost center to a value center in global HQ priorities 

  • The anatomy of leverage; How to time and earn the global leadership’s mindshare 

  • When outsourcing works, and when it dangerously doesn't 

  • Wage bills, rupee depreciation, and hidden cost myths: A brutally clear-eyed view on GCC economics 

  • Build vs Buy: Why promoting internally can outsmart hiring externally (and how to do it right) 

  • The hybrid future: How automation, outsourcing, and in-house capabilities will coexist 

  • The real “nirvana” for GCCs: Not just integration, but dissolution of identity into the global core 

Plus, provocative questions explored: 

  • “What would make a GCC fail to fail?” 

  • “Can capability centers be more than back-offices in disguise?” 

  • “Should we call them GCCs at all?” 

  • “Is growth the only cushion against collapse?” 

 
Whether you're a global leader, a GCC head, or an ambitious talent in this ecosystem, this is the playbook no one gives you. 

Tune in to sharpen your edge, challenge assumptions, and stay ahead of what's next. 

Watch or listen now and rethink what it really means to ‘build a capability center’. 

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3 months ago
31 minutes 53 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 12: The Architecture of Impact: Building GCCs That Matter with Dinesh Deo

What does it really take to build a world-class Global Capability Centre, one that transcends cost savings and starts influencing enterprise value? 

In this episode, we get honest about the tough truths and deeper levers of GCC evolution, from flat organisation dreams to tall structures, from push-and-pull growth cycles to the power of local leadership in global networks. 

In This Conversation we discuss: 

  • Why organisation design can make or break your GCC 

  • Navigating the India vs global grading conundrum 

  • The subtle trap of promotions and hierarchy inflation 

  • EVP decoded: A three-layer framework (finances, emotion, intellect) 

  • Push vs Pull models in scaling: What changes when the global team starts to "pull"? 

  • How to move beyond transactional value to real enterprise impact 

  • Why India GCCs can be mini-multiverses, and how local leaders must act as the glue 

  • Innovation, digital transformation, and why RPA changed the game in 2015 

  • The evolving metrics of success: From cost arbitrage to revenue enablement 

Featured Insight: 
"Unless India leaders are at the table, their voice doesn’t travel. Pull only happens when that seat is earned, and used well." 

 
Whether you're leading, scaling, or supporting a GCC, this episode is your mirror and manual. Tune in and reflect on: 
Are you building a cost center or a capability center? 

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4 months ago
36 minutes 46 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 11: Tracing the GCC Timeline with Dinesh Deo

It started with a name, “Captives.” It’s now a $60B+ force reshaping global enterprises. But what really is a GCC? And why is everyone rushing to build one in India? 

In this no-holds-barred conversation, we dive deep into the misunderstood world of Global Capability Centers (GCCs) with a guest who has not only built them, but rebuilt them, across decades, continents, and industries. 

What's in this episode? 

  • What is a GCC, really? 

  • The evolution: From “Captives” to “Capability” 

  • GCC vs Outsourcing: A Steelmanned Debate 

  • The hidden tax, regulatory, and operational rules you didn’t know about 

  • Why intent matters more than scale 

  • Cost arbitrage vs. Capability creation 

  • How India became a capability superpower 

  • How organizations outgrow their own GCCs, and what to do about it 

  • The career promise of a well-run GCC 

  • From year zero to year 25, without skipping steps 

Watch, reflect, and reframe your approach. 

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4 months ago
33 minutes 22 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 10: The Journey of a CA to a CEO with Dinesh Deo

What do you learn when you’ve led three billion-dollar buildouts, across banking, insurance, and global capability centers? 


In this episode, we sit down with Dinesh Deo, a quiet giant of India’s GCC sector, for a no-holds-barred conversation on what it really takes to build, scale, and lead in high-stakes environments. From GE’s legendary talent playbook to the emotional rollercoaster of acquisition, this is a conversation packed with insight, honesty, and the hard-earned truths of leadership. 

We unpack the stories behind the headlines, what it took, what changed, and what never should. 

In this episode: 

  • The 3 big leadership lessons from GE, BNY Mellon, and Marsh McLennan 

  • What it means to invest in yourself 

  • The emotional decision to leave a company when values don’t align with ownership shifts 

  • How to reinvent yourself from individual contributor to CEO (and 25 to 7000 employees) 

  • Learning to lead through uncertainty and M&A shock 

  • What most leaders get wrong about friendship, performance, and fairness 

  • The unspoken cost of why rating systems break culture 

  • Why “I don’t know” can be a powerful answer 

Plus: 

  • What it takes to lead with authenticity during crisis 

  • The fine line between being liked and being trusted 

  • And how to find purpose in people and stay resilient for 25 years 

Listen now and reflect on the kind of leadership that doesn’t just chase performance but shapes it. 

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4 months ago
32 minutes 47 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 9: What Wise Leaders Build Around Themselves with Anu Aga & Meher Pudumjee

What does it take to lead through loss, self-doubt, and legacy and still find your own voice?

In this powerful episode 9 of The Leadership Equation, Anu Aga and Meher Pudumjee open up about what leadership truly demands, not just skill, but wisdom, self-awareness, and the courage to be vulnerable. From navigating grief and imposter syndrome to embracing intuition, authenticity, and family as a source of strength, this conversation goes far beyond business. It explores the very essence of what it means to lead as a whole human being.


Whether you're stepping into leadership for the first time or guiding an organization through change, this dialogue is a masterclass in self-reflection, emotional intelligence, and resilience.


What can you expect from this episode?

  • Wisdom is not taught; it’s cultivated through lived experience, reflection, and presence.
  • Leadership is lonely; but it doesn’t have to be if you build intentional support systems.
  • Vulnerability and authenticity are not weaknesses; they’re leadership strengths.
  • Self-doubt doesn’t disqualify you from leadership; it deepens your awareness.
  • Family forums and thought partners can be as vital as boardrooms and strategy decks.


This episode is a must-watch for leaders looking to reimagine leadership beyond skillsets and strategy


What has helped you navigate self-doubt in your leadership journey?

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5 months ago
22 minutes 26 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 8: Heart of the Matter: People, Purpose & the Business Within - With Anu Aga & Meher Pudumjee

What truly sustains a business; profits, or the people who power it?

In this heartful episode, Anu Aga and Meher Pudumjee, along with our host Anupal Banerjee, reflect on how transformation rooted in people and purpose leads to more than just growth; it creates impact.

From reskilling to responsible leadership, this conversation gets to the core of what makes businesses worth building.


What can you expect from this episode?

  • Are we preparing our people for change or just preparing to replace them?
  • Is growth always progress, or can it sometimes be cancerous?
  • Technology is powerful, but who’s teaching people how to adapt and thrive with it?
  • Why letting go of control doesn’t mean losing sight of legacy
  • If you focus on the “game,” will the scoreboard take care of itself?


This episode is a must-watch for leaders looking to drive capability transformation, not just cost reduction


Watch now and subscribe for more insightful leadership conversations. Episode 7 dived into what does it take to build institutions that outlast individuals? and Episode 9 unpacks The Inner Work of Leadership: Wisdom, Self-Doubt & the Power of Real Connection


What did this conversation shift in your thinking about growth, leadership, or people?

Watch the full episode on -  

People Equation

YouTube

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5 months ago
11 minutes 31 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 7: Building an Institution: Scaling with Governance with Anu Aga & Meher Pudumjee

What does it take to transform a family business into a purpose-driven institution that outlives its founders?

Join Anu Aga and Meher Pudumjee, the dynamic mother daughter duo as they pull back the curtain on Thermax’s reinvention, from Anu’s unexpected rise to CEO in 1996 to the bold decisions that reshaped their legacy.

Discover the principles, people-first strategies, and governance models that propelled a family enterprise into an enduring institution.


What can you expect from this episode?

  • What happens when purpose, not profit, is the North Star?
  • How separating ownership and management enhances strategic objectivity.
  • How do you lead with values in a world driven by valuation?
  • A healthy tension between a risk-averse family mindset and an ambitious management team ensures prudent yet forward-looking investments.


This episode is a must-watch for leaders looking to navigate succession and governance in family-run businesses


Listen now and subscribe for more insightful leadership conversations. Episode 8 dives into how to build sustainable, values-led institutions and Episode 9 unpacks The Inner Work of Leadership: Wisdom, Self-Doubt & the Power of Real Connection


Which takeaway challenged your thinking the most and how will you put it into action?

Watch the episode on YouTube

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5 months ago
35 minutes 35 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 6: Leadership, Design and Leading a GCC with Astrid Mozes

What does it take to lead a Global Capability Center that’s not just efficient — but strategic, future-focused, and globally integrated?

In this episode of The Leadership Equation, Anupal Banerjee is joined by Astrid Mozes, former Regional President at Danfoss, to unpack the leadership principles, organizational design choices, and culture shifts that enable GCCs to thrive.

Key themes include:

  • Leadership development within Global Capability Centers (GCCs)

  • Designing GCCs for agility, trust, and cross-border impact

  • The evolving role of the GCC site leader

  • Aligning global strategy with local execution

If you’re leading a GCC, building global teams, or shaping the next generation of talent in India, this episode is a playbook for transformation.

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7 months ago
28 minutes 39 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 5: Cracking the GCC Code for Nordics & Core Industrial Businesses with Astrid Mozes

In this premiere episode of The Leadership Equation, Anupal Banerjee sits down with Astrid Mozes, a seasoned global leader, to explore how GCCs can move beyond cost efficiency to become true growth drivers.

Key insights:

  • The leadership mindset required to scale GCCs

  • Aligning talent strategy with business goals

  • Challenges and best practices from real-world experience

  • Why integration and purpose matter more than ever

A must-listen for anyone building global teams or leading transformation.

Subscribe to The Leadership Equation for conversations at the intersection of people, leadership, and performance.

#Leadership #GCC #TalentStrategy #AnupalBanerjee #AstridMozes #LeadershipEquation #CapabilityCenters #FutureOfWork #GlobalLeadership

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8 months ago
18 minutes 31 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 4: The Paradox Advantage: Why Great Leaders Think in Opposites with Astrid Mozes

In a world where certainty is rare and complexity is constant, the best leaders embrace paradox — balancing bold vision with adaptability, ambition with empathy, and structure with agility.

In this episode of The Leadership Equation, Anupal Banerjee sits down with Astrid Mozes, former President of Regions at Danfoss and a seasoned global business leader, to explore the power of paradoxical leadership.

Tune in to learn:
✅ What paradoxical leadership really means — and why it’s essential in today’s world
✅ How to build enduring organizations through mindset, not just metrics
✅ Why Global Capability Centers (GCCs) are shifting from cost centers to value creators and innovation hubs

Whether you're scaling a team, leading global operations, or building your leadership edge, this conversation will shift the way you think about growth and resilience.

Guest: Astrid Mozes – Former President of Regions, Danfoss
Host: Anupal Banerjee

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8 months ago
16 minutes 4 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 3: The Future of Capability, Leadership, and AI with R Gopalakrishnan

The Leadership Equation Podcast | Episode 3: The Future of Capability Building, Leadership, and AI 

How can leaders future-proof their organizations in the era of AI? 

In this episode of The Leadership Equation Podcast, Anupal Banerjee continues his insightful conversation with R. Gopalakrishnan, former Executive Director at Tata Sons, exploring how leaders can navigate the challenges of an AI-driven world and build sustainable organizational capabilities for the future. 

From rethinking learnability and the principle of uncertainty to the evolving role of Global Capability Centres (GCCs), R. Gopalakrishnan shares valuable insights into how leaders can prepare for the unknown and ensure their businesses remain adaptable and resilient in times of rapid technological change. 

What’s inside this conversation: 

  • The future of work in the age of AI: Is your job at risk? 

  • Reimagining learnability and building the skills needed for tomorrow 

  • The critical role of decentralized skilling and GCCs in future-proofing businesses 

  • How leaders can navigate uncertainty and use their compass rather than just a map 

  • Leadership lessons from Ratan Tata and the power of listening, patience, and courage 

  • How to navigate change and culture shifts as seen in the British American Tobacco story 

This episode is a must-listen for any leader looking to thrive in the rapidly changing world of AI, uncertainty, and transformation. 

Listen now and subscribe to The Leadership Equation Podcast for more engaging, thought-provoking conversations on leadership, innovation, and future-ready organizations. 

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9 months ago
51 minutes 27 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 2: Building Institutions That Last with R Gopalakrishnan

The Leadership Equation Podcast | Episode 2: Building Institutions That Last 

Why do some companies endure for generations while others fade away? 

In this episode of The Leadership Equation Podcast, Anupal Banerjee continues his conversation with R. Gopalakrishnan, former Executive Director at Tata Sons, to explore the secrets of corporate longevity. 

Drawing from decades of leadership experience and insights from history, business, and philosophy, R. Gopalakrishnan unpacks why most companies don’t survive beyond 50 years and what it takes to build an organization that stands the test of time. 

What’s inside this conversation: 

  • The difference between valuation and true value 

  • Why adaptability is the key to corporate survival 

  • The role of boards in shaping enduring institutions 

  • Lessons from Tata, Unilever, and global businesses that have lasted 

This is a conversation about leadership, legacy, and the principles that make businesses last for generations. 

Listen now and subscribe to The Leadership Equation Podcast for more deep, honest conversations on what it really takes to lead. 

This conversation with R. Gopalakrishnan doesn’t end here. Episode 3 unpacks how leaders can prepare for the future—don’t miss it! 

If this episode resonated with you, leave a review—it helps more people discover The Leadership Equation Podcast. 

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9 months ago
36 minutes 52 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Ep 1: Decision Dilemma with R Gopalakrishnan

The Leadership Equation Podcast | Episode 1: Decision Dilemma 

When you’re making a big decision, how much should you trust the data, and when is it time to go with your gut? 

In this first episode of The Leadership Equation Podcast, Anupal Banerjee sits down with R. Gopalakrishnan, former Executive Director at Tata Sons and a seasoned business leader, to explore the delicate balance between analysis and intuition. 

Through real-life leadership moments—including a tough call at Tata that tested his instincts—R. Gopalakrishnan shares what happens when you wait too long, the emotional side of decision-making, and how leaders can develop intuition as a skill. 

What’s inside this conversation: 

  • Why data and gut instinct aren’t opposites—they work together 

  • The ‘edge of the cliff’ moment every leader faces 

  • The fear of getting it wrong and how to move past it 

  • What to do when intuition fails—and why failing fast isn’t always the answer 

This is a conversation about leadership, uncertainty, and the choices that define careers and companies. 

Listen now and subscribe to The Leadership Equation Podcast for more deep, honest conversations on what it really takes to lead. This conversation with R. Gopalakrishnan doesn’t end here Episode 2 explores why some companies stand the test of time while others fade, and Episode 3 unpacks how leaders can prepare for what’s next. Stay tuned for both! 

If this episode resonated with you, leave a review - it helps more people discover The Leadership Equation Podcast. 

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9 months ago
17 minutes 47 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
Introduction to The Leadership Equation Podcast

In this introductory episode, our host, Anupal Banerjee, Founder & CEO of People Equation, introduces The Leadership Equation Podcast. With 25 years of experience in HR transformation, Anupal kicks off a series of candid, unscripted conversations with global leaders on people, culture, and capability transformation.


Tune in as we explore the core principles of building resilient organizations.

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9 months ago
1 minute 25 seconds

The Leadership Equation Podcast
In today’s fast-evolving business landscape, one constant remains: people and capability building. These dynamic forces drive organizational success. While strategies, markets, and technologies shift, transforming people and capabilities remains the cornerstone of sustained impact. In a world fixated on quick fixes, The Leadership Equation dives deep into institutional transformation with leaders who have shaped global organizations. Join us to uncover timeless principles that bridge vision and execution and unlock lasting success.