Why Transitions Break Us and Heal Us

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The Midlife Chrysalis

Chip Conley

55 episodes

1 day ago

The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.

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Why Transitions Break Us and Heal Us | Kari Cardinale

The Midlife Chrysalis

51 minutes 16 seconds

2 weeks ago

Why Transitions Break Us and Heal Us | Kari Cardinale

Midlife can feel confusing, even when life looks good from the outside. Careers change, relationships shift, and the way we see ourselves starts to evolve, leaving many people feeling stuck in between what was and what’s next.

In this episode, Kari Cardinale, Chief Content Officer and partner at Modern Elder Academy, explains why these moments aren’t breakdowns but transitions, and why learning to navigate them is an essential life skill. Through her work on Transitional Intelligence, Kari shares what’s really happening during midlife change and how to move through it with greater clarity and confidence.

You’ll learn:

• Why most midlife “crises” are actually misunderstood transitions

• The three stages of change: endings, the messy middle, and new beginnings

• Why the messy middle feels so hard — and why it matters

• How rituals, community, and small “glimmers” guide what comes next

If you’re feeling stuck or sensing a shift in your life, this episode will help you understand where you are and how to move forward.

👉 Navigating Transitions online course from Modern Elder Academy offers a supportive, step-by-step way to work through change with clarity and confidence, starting March 2: https://www.meawisdom.com/navigating-transitions-online/

Timestamps:

01:20 What is transitional intelligence

03:58 The three stages of transition

06:02 Voluntary and involuntary change

08:02 Why transitions take longer than we expect

11:50 The role of ritual in midlife

15:54 The messy middle and uncertainty

17:53 Glimmers and new beginnings

21:44 Growth mindset in midlife

24:28 Kari’s personal transition story

28:37 The birth of Modern Elder Academy

31:36 Love and relationships in midlife

34:48 What truly gets better with age

37:23 Building community and belonging

42:31 Wisdom bumper sticker

Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

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