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The Midlife Chrysalis
Chip Conley
34 episodes
3 days ago
The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.
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The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.
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The Midlife Chrysalis
Why Introverts Hold Hidden Strength | Susan Cain on Quiet Power

Ever wonder if slowing down might actually wake you up? In this episode, I sit down with Susan Cain, the bestselling author of Quiet and Bittersweet, to talk about the hidden strengths of introverts, the surprising beauty in melancholy, and why midlife can be the most creative and peaceful chapter of your life. We dig into what it really means to live with depth, authenticity, and joy, without the noise.


✨ Hit play and join us for a quiet conversation that might just change how you see yourself.


Timestamps:

00:18 The Quiet Life Community

01:23 Susan’s early career as a corporate lawyer

02:18 Realizing law wasn’t her path

03:25 The success of Quiet and its life-changing impact

06:09 Defining introversion and extroversion

09:43 Chip’s story: from introvert to social alchemist

11:35 Why people grow more introverted with age

13:24 Reputational confusion and being open

17:56 What is “Worktrovert”

20:17 Deeper happiness through the bittersweetness

23:05 Daily practices to balance beauty and melancholy

25:44 The power of remembering mortality

27:45 Chip’s near-death experience and slowing down

30:31 Slowing life down in midlife and releasing ambition

33:01 Leaving law and embracing a quiet, creative life

38:31 How awareness of death deepens appreciation for life

40:53 What Susan’s working on now

43:07 Liz Gilbert’s TED Talk and creative pressure

45:50 Susan’s advice for aspiring writers

49:41 Wisdom bumper sticker


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/



#SusanCain #ChipConley #MidlifeChrysalis #QuietLife #Introversion #Bittersweet #SelfDiscovery #MidlifeTransformation #EmotionalIntelligence #PersonalGrowth #QuietPower #LifeTransitions #MindfulLiving #AuthenticLife #CreativityAndCalm

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3 days ago
58 minutes 58 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
From Goat Farm to Global Brand: Midlife Lessons with Brent & Josh

What happens when two New York City professionals lose their jobs, move to a tiny rural town, and accidentally build one of America’s most beloved skincare brands?


Brent and Josh of Beekman 1802 reveal how kindness, community, and old-fashioned wisdom became the backbone of their business and their midlife reinvention. They share how loving your neighbor can be a real strategy, why contentment matters more than achievement, the 51% rule that keeps their partnership strong, and how better aging starts with simple kindness to yourself and others, all delivered with warmth, wisdom, and humor.


👉 If you’re ready for a kinder, clearer way to think about midlife, just press play.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:59 Meet Brent & Josh of Beekman 1802

02:47 How Brent & Josh met

04:18 Brent’s upbringing & coming out journey

06:01 Becoming goat farmers & starting Beekman 1802

07:19 How the brand got its name

09:09 Turning a recession into a business opportunity

10:35 Growing from homemade soap to a global brand

12:54 The idea behind Goat Wisdom book

16:33 Their favorite principles

20:46 Community, kindness & homophobia

25:38 Brent’s family and true Christian acceptance

28:41 Being partners in love and business

29:56 The 51% Rule for decision-making

32:06 Radical transparency as kindness

34:37 Personal midlife philosophies

38:42 What they’d regret in 10 years

40:36 Redefining success as contentment

41:55 “Better aging,” social connection & kindness

45:16 Farm wisdom for life

48:56 Wisdom bumper stickers

52:12 Chip’s closing reflections


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#MidlifeTransformation #GoatWisdom #Beekman1802 #ChipConley #MidlifeChrysalis #BetterAging #KindnessCulture #EntrepreneurJourney #LifeReinvention #ContentmentOverAchievement #LGBTQEntrepreneurs #ModernElders #AgingWisdom #MidlifeReinvention #SmallTownStories

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6 days ago
56 minutes 7 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
From Experience to Wisdom: A Midlife Conversation That Matters

In the very first episode of Wisdom Wednesdays, Chip Conley and Derek Gehl sit down for a thoughtful, honest conversation about what wisdom really means in midlife. Chip shares the down-to-earth definition that guides his life and talks about the small, consistent practices that help him turn everyday experiences into something meaningful.


If you’re ready for conversations that spark growth, clarity, and courage…


▶️ Start with Episode 1 and begin your wisdom journey with us.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:22 Welcome to Wisdom Wednesdays

01:37 What is wisdom and why it matters

02:55 Life lessons as raw material

03:32 Mindfully sharing wisdom

05:28 Can wisdom be cultivated

08:06 The problem with AI wisdom

08:51 The chef metaphor

10:52 Wisdom during cancer treatment

12:51 Chip’s wisdom bumper sticker

14:12 How to start your wisdom practice

15:54 Final reflection

Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

#WisdomWednesdays #ChipConley #MidlifeChrysalis #MidlifeWisdom #PersonalGrowthJourney #ModernElder #LifeLessons #MidlifeTransformation #EmotionalWellbeing #MindfulLiving #SelfAwareness #MidlifePurpose #JournalingPractice #InnerGrowth #ThrivingInMidlife

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1 week ago
17 minutes 55 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Barbara Waxman: How to Flourish and Find Purpose in Midlife

Midlife isn’t a crisis. It’s your greatest awakening.


In this inspiring episode, gerontologist and coach Barbara Waxman redefines aging through the lens of “Middleessence,” a stage of growth, purpose, and renewal. She reveals how to reclaim energy with her Energy Audit, why mindset matters more than genetics for longevity, and how lifestyle medicine helps you live undiminished at every age.


✨ Learn how to flourish, not fade, in your next chapter.

▶️ Watch now on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts.

Timestamps:

00:00 Meet gerontologist Barbara Waxman

00:28 How she became a gerontologist

02:56 What is “middle essence”

07:18 Adolescence vs. middle essence

13:37 Why happiness rises after 50

16:42 Debunking the midlife crisis myth

18:53 Redefining legacy and purpose

20:19 Barbara’s own midlife awakening

23:03 What is the Energy Audit

24:36 What lifestyle medicine really means

28:55 The 7 lifestyle levers for thriving

30:42 Mindset’s power in longevity

32:41 Mindset studies that changed lives

35:18 Well-being burnout explained

36:23 Self-care vs. self-indulgence

38:10 Solitude, introverts, and renewal

40:09 Unlocking longevity and the third span

45:46 Living undiminished and flourishing

46:49 Wisdom bumper sticker

Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

#MidlifeChrysalis #BarbaraWaxman #MidlifeTransformation #MiddleEssence #LongevityMindset #HealthyAging #LifestyleMedicine #WomenOver40 #LifeTransitions #PersonalGrowth #MindsetShift #AgingWell #HumanFlourishing #EnergyAudit #PurposefulLiving

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1 week ago
55 minutes 23 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Mark Nepo: How to Stay Creative, Awake, and Fully Alive in Midlife

What if aging isn’t about decline, but about becoming more alive than ever?


The bestselling author and spiritual teacher Mark Nepo opens up about how surviving cancer reshaped his entire understanding of life, creativity, and purpose. He reveals the wisdom behind The Fifth Season, a time in life when the inner world begins to shine brighter than the outer one, and shares how to live and create with authenticity in midlife and beyond.


Mark’s reflections will move you, ground you, and remind you what it truly means to be present, wholehearted, and free.


🎧 Watch now and rediscover how beauty, suffering, and friendship all become part of life’s greatest art: your own becoming.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:23 The Fifth Season: Creativity in midlife

04:10 What the “Fifth Season” really means

05:28 How cancer changed Mark’s life

09:58 Facing death and finding purpose

12:00 What cancer taught him about life

13:18 Chip’s own cancer story

17:10 Realizing he was a poet

22:14 How Oprah discovered his book

24:47 Success, humility, and staying grounded

29:59 Mark’s Pirouettes poem

34:32 Creativity as a spiritual act

42:17 Aging and letting go of old identities

43:26 The tea ceremony and making lists

46:30 The poetry of friendship

51:14 Teaching at MEA

55:12 Free Fall poem

56:03 Wisdom bumper sticker


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/



#MarkNepo #TheBookOfAwakening #TheFifthSeason #MidlifeChrysalis #ChipConley #MidlifeWisdom #SpiritualGrowth #MidlifeCreativity #PersonalTransformation #CancerSurvivor #MindfulnessJourney #AgingGracefully #PurposeInMidlife #SpiritualAwakening #PoetryOfLife #OprahBookClub #SoulWork #LivingFully #EmotionalHealing #AuthenticLiving

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1 week ago
59 minutes 23 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
From Hot Flashes to a Global Mission: Tamsen Fadal’s Menopause Journey

🔥 One night on air changed everything for Tamsen Fadal.


She was at the top of her game as a TV anchor when she suddenly started forgetting words and sweating through live broadcasts, without realizing she was entering menopause. That moment became the turning point that led her from journalism to advocacy. In this conversation, Tamsen shares how she turned confusion into purpose, launching The M Factor documentary and her book How to Menopause.


✨ Join us as we talk about redefining midlife, breaking the silence, and helping women everywhere navigate this powerful new chapter.


Timestamps:

00:43 Early Life and Losing Her Mother

02:44 Lessons from Her Mother and Family Values

04:06 Breaking Into TV News and Facing Stereotypes

07:11 Sexism and Ageism in the Media Industry

09:12 Defining Her On-Air Brand and Early Career Years

11:46 Moving to New York and Personal Life Changes

15:36 Advice to Her 40-Year-Old Self

17:01 Health Issues, Misdiagnosis, and Menopause

23:28 TikTok & Creating Awareness

25:29 Street Interviews, Documentary, and The Book

30:28 Understanding Perimenopause and Menopause

34:16 Hormone Therapy and Medical Education Gaps

36:35 Finding Certified Menopause Practitioners

38:48 How Men and Coworkers Can Be Supportive

41:25 Reframing Midlife and the “Bolden Years”

44:37 Purpose, Creativity, and Daily Motivation

46:28 Redefining Retirement and Lifelong Energy

48:22 Wisdom Bumper Sticker


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#MenopauseAwareness, #Perimenopause, #MidlifeEmpowerment, #WomensHealth, #MenopauseSupport, #MenopauseEducation, #TamsenFadal, #ChipConley, #HowToMenopause, #TheMFactor, #MidlifeCrisisMyth, #BoldenYears, #HormoneTherapy, #MenopauseAdvocate, #MidlifeReinvention

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2 weeks ago
56 minutes 25 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
The Science of Awe: Rediscover Wonder with Dacher Keltner

What if awe was the secret ingredient to happiness? 🌿 In this episode, I sit down with UC Berkeley psychologist Dacher Keltner to explore how awe, compassion, and moral beauty can transform the way we live and age. We dive into the science of wonder — from the power of collective joy to how simple “awe walks” can boost your health, purpose, and connection.


✨ Join us as we uncover why we’re truly born to be good and how awe might just be the key to midlife renewal.


🎧 Tune in for the full conversation and get inspired to see life with fresh eyes.


Timestamps:

00:00 Chip welcomes Dacher and reflects on their friendship

00:18 Why people smile when they talk about Dacher

01:06 How early experiences shaped his empathy

03:32 Journey into psychology and emotion science

06:42 Discovering emotion in the human face

07:31 Writing Born to Be Good and redefining human nature

09:42 Science of compassion, gratitude, and kindness

13:15 How the study of awe began

14:17 What awe is and how it feels

18:24 Collecting awe stories from around the world

20:33 The eight wonders of awe

21:00 Collective effervescence and shared joy

23:44 Synchronizing with others through movement and emotion

25:01 How screens disrupt human connection

27:00 Moral beauty and the power of witnessing goodness

31:32 Moral beauty within community and everyday life

32:39 Awe and moral beauty in midlife

36:33 The Awe Walk study and its health benefits

39:47 Finding awe in daily moments

41:25 Inside Dacher’s “Cultivating Awe” workshop

43:51 Practicing awe through grief and gratitude

45:09 Wisdom bumper sticker: seeing hidden beauty in people

47:35 Love (agape) as the essence of awe

49:10 Closing reflections and gratitude


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#awe #DacherKeltner #ChipConley #MidlifeChrysalis #CultivatingAwe #BornToBeGood #MoralBeauty #CollectiveEffervescence #ScienceOfAwe #HumanConnection #Mindfulness #EmotionalIntelligence #MidlifeWisdom #GratitudePractice #FindingPurpose

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2 weeks ago
53 minutes 38 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Reborn at Midlife: How Ricky Williams Became Errick Miron

What happens when one of the NFL’s most celebrated athletes walks away from fame, fortune, and the life everyone else wanted for him? In this powerful episode, Ricky Williams, now known as Errick Miron, opens up about his transformation from Heisman Trophy winner to healer, teacher, and astrologer. He shares how depression, self-discovery, and spirituality reshaped his identity and helped him find peace beyond the game.


If you’ve ever wondered what it truly means to let go and start over, this conversation will change the way you think about success, purpose, and freedom.


🎧 Listen now and discover how Ricky Williams became Errick Miron and found his true self.


Timestamps:

00:42 Early Ambitions and Upbringing

02:19 Choosing the University of Texas

04:54 College Glory and the Heisman Dream

07:37 NFL Reality Check

10:00 Mental Health and Identity Crisis

15:00 Discovering New Passions

16:14 Leaving the NFL & Coming Back

19:47 Journey to Australia and Discovering Ayurveda

22:32 First Encounter with Astrology

24:26 Return to Football with New Purpose

26:31 Preparing for Life After Sports

29:02 Retirement & Going Back to Astrology

38:41 Evolutionary Astrology Explained

42:46 Meeting His Wife & Becoming Errick Miron

47:21 Redefining Masculinity

49:42 Upcoming Workshop: Evolving Identity

52:16 Wisdom Bumper Sticker

Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#RickyWilliams #ErrickMiron #MidlifeChrysalis #EvolvingIdentity #NFLtoAstrology #MentalHealthJourney #SpiritualAwakening #HealingJourney #AthleteTransformation #AstrologyForGrowth #LifeAfterSports #SelfDiscovery #PersonalGrowth #MasculineHealing #MindfulnessInMidlife

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3 weeks ago
59 minutes 31 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Rainn Wilson: Finding the Soul Beyond the Spotlight

What if the path to a meaningful life had nothing to do with fame or success and everything to do with service and soul?


In this captivating conversation, Rainn Wilson opens up about his transformation from Hollywood ego to spiritual seeker, sharing how faith, meditation, and humility helped him rediscover purpose beyond the spotlight. Together with Chip Conley, he explores why midlife can be a sacred turning point when the soul finally takes the lead.


👉 Watch now to learn how Rainn’s journey can help you reconnect with your own soul.


Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

02:55 What Is a Soul?

05:52 Chip‘s Definition of Soul

08:18 Humans on a Spiritual Journey

09:32 Growing Up Baha’i

13:58 The 1960s Spiritual Revolution

17:31 Hollywood, Faith & the Dark Night of the Soul

21:01 Becoming Dwight Schrute

22:50 Famous in Midlife

29:01 The Ego and Hollywood

31:38 Letting the Soul Lead

34:08 Devotion & Daily Practice

40:03 The Soul Boom Workbook

42:24 How the Workbook Came to Be

44:41 Wisdom Bumper Sticker

49:24 Chip’s Reflections and Takeaways


Learn more about MEA at https://www.meawisdom.com/


#RainnWilson #SoulBoom #MidlifeChrysalis #ChipConley #SpiritualRevolution #Bahaifaith #SoulJourney #ModernSpirituality #EgoAndSoul #Mindfulness #PersonalGrowth #MentalHealthAwareness #ServiceAndPurpose #ConsciousLiving #SpiritualAwakening

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3 weeks ago
53 minutes 22 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
BJ Miller: How Facing Death Taught Me to Live More Fully

What if the worst thing that ever happened to you became the very thing that set you free? 🌱 In this deeply moving episode, Dr. BJ Miller—physician, amputee, and palliative care visionary—shares how a near-fatal accident in college transformed his understanding of life, loss, and what it really means to live fully. From his journey through unimaginable pain to founding Mettle Health, BJ reveals how facing mortality can open the door to compassion, creativity, and peace.


If you’ve ever feared aging, grief, or change, this conversation will completely shift your perspective.


👉 Watch now and discover how to turn life’s hardest moments into your greatest teachers.


Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

00:36 The Accident That Changed Everything

04:17 Processing Grief and Feeling “Seen”

09:27 Rebuilding Life in His 20s

14:46 From Art History to Medicine

16:24 Discovering Palliative Care

20:27 What Palliative Care Really Means

24:26 Spiritual Dimensions of Caregiving

27:16 What We Get Wrong About Death

29:42 Making All Healthcare Palliative

32:44 Founding Mettle Health

36:56 Advice for Caregivers

41:25 The Power of Grief

43:50 BJ’s Midlife Chrysalis

47:49 What People Regret Most Before Death

51:48 Dying as a Creative Act

55:25 Wisdom Bumper Sticker


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#BJMIller #MidlifeChrysalis #ChipConley #EndOfLifeCare #PalliativeCare #HospiceCare #GriefAndHealing #MidlifeWisdom #CaregivingJourney #FindingMeaning #LifeAndDeath #SpiritualGrowth #EmotionalResilience #MindfulLiving #AuthenticLife

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1 month ago
1 hour 3 minutes 26 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Daniel Pink: The Power of Regret and the Freedom to Begin Again

Ever wondered what it really means to start over when the world thinks you’ve peaked? In this episode, Daniel Pink, bestselling author of Drive and The Power of Regret, reveals why midlife isn’t a crisis but a creative turning point. He talks about becoming a beginner again after 50, how regret can guide us toward what truly matters, and why lasting motivation comes from autonomy, mastery, and purpose, not paychecks.


👉 Watch now to learn how to reinvent yourself with clarity, courage, and curiosity.


Timestamps:

01:15 Early Career & Al Gore Years

04:12 Leaving Politics for Book Writing

07:05 The Book “Drive” & Science of Motivation

11:10 Leadership & Purpose Within Organizations

14:13 Living an Average Mid-40s Reality

17:08 The Midlife Chrysalis & Year-Long Sabbatical

22:04 Writing for The Washington Post

25:58 Becoming a Rookie at 50

30:00 The Science of Timing

32:03 Evaluating Autonomy, Mastery & Purpose

34:21 How He Wrote “The Power of Regret”

37:42 The Wisdom in Regret

39:24 Anticipated Regret in Action

42:34 On Retirement & Regeneration

46:16 The Idea of Gap Year at 50

49:38 Regenerative vs. Retirement Communities

51:49 Upsides & Downsides of Aging

55:20 Dan’s Wisdom Bumper Sticker


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#DanielPink #ChipConley #ModernElderAcademy #MidlifeChrysalis #ThePowerOfRegret #DriveBook #AutonomyMasteryPurpose #MotivationScience #MidlifeReinvention #CareerReinvention #FindingPurpose #AgingWithPurpose #LifelongLearning #PersonalGrowth #MindsetShift

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1 month ago
1 hour 26 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Love, Loss & Caregiving with Bruce Willis’ Wife, Emma Heming Willis

What happens when the person you love most slowly begins to disappear before your eyes? In this deeply emotional and inspiring conversation, Emma Heming Willis opens up about life with Bruce Willis following his diagnosis of frontotemporal dementia and how she turned heartbreak into purpose.


Joined by Helen Christoni, co-founder of Make Time Wellness, the two reveal why women’s brain health is so often ignored, what every caregiver needs to hear, and how to rediscover joy even in the hardest seasons of life.


👉 Watch now and learn how making time for yourself might just be the most powerful act of care there is.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:54 How Helen and Emma created Make Time Wellness

04:47 Hormones, estrogen loss, and dementia risk

06:03 Helen’s personal connection to dementia

08:04 Starting Make Time as Bruce’s symptoms appeared

08:51 How Emma met Bruce Willis and first signs of FTD

12:05 Understanding anosognosia and early dementia signs

15:29 The meaning of ambiguous loss for caregivers

18:45 Practical tools and exercises for caregivers

20:37 Redefining self-care and “making time”

21:20 How others can help caregivers in real ways

24:09 The caregiving crisis and policy change needed

28:43 Gender roles and men’s perspective on caregiving

31:00 Make Time Wellness mission and products

34:49 Bruce Willis’s current condition and progression

38:20 How their daughters are coping and family life

39:24 Emma’s and Helen’s advice for caregivers

40:57 Wisdom bumper sticker

44:57 Closing reflections and gratitude


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#EmmaHemingWillis #HelenChristoni #MidlifeCaregiving #WomensBrainHealth #CaregiverSupport #FrontotemporalDementia #DementiaAwareness #MakeTimeWellness #MidlifeResilience #SelfCareReimagined #MidlifeWisdom #WomenSupportingWomen #CaregivingJourney #FindingJoyAgain #ModernElderAcademy

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1 month ago
49 minutes 41 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Arthur Brooks on How to Break Free from the Striver’s Curse in Midlife

What if everything you’ve been taught about happiness and success is upside down?


In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley talks with Arthur Brooks, Harvard professor, bestselling author, and former French horn prodigy, about his remarkable journey from the concert stage to the world of behavioral science. Together, they unpack why strivers burn out, how our brains shift from fluid to crystallized intelligence, and the simple formula that can turn midlife from a crisis into a transformation.


Don’t miss this inspiring conversation. Listen now and start rethinking your own second curve.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:06 Arthur Brooks’ origins and family background

02:59 Religious upbringing and conversion to Catholicism

04:56 Navigating academia and faith in secular environments

07:08 Early music training and struggles to become the best

13:06 Striver mentality and American entrepreneurship DNA

16:41 Leaving music for economics and behavioral science

20:52 Imposter syndrome and skills learned from performance

22:33 Becoming CEO of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI)

29:05 Burnout, midlife shift, and vital plane encounter

32:19 Plane encounter with a famous figure and reflection on decline

35:47 Realizing the need for a second curve

38:10 How we move from fluid to crystallized intelligence

42:43 Airbnb and the role of “modern elder” wisdom

45:02 Advice for shifting into careers built on crystallized intelligence

46:56 The danger of pride and Dante’s frozen Satan metaphor

49:40 Learning to want less: the secret to second-curve happiness

54:39 Editing life instead of accumulating - reverse bucket lists

55:55 Generativity, religion, and aging with meaning

57:16 Policy thoughts on midlife education and wisdom schools

1:01:59 Wisdom bumper sticker

1:05:28 Closing reflections from Chip

Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

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1 month ago
1 hour 10 minutes 43 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
From Near Death to Super Age: David Stewart’s Bold Reboot

What happens when a world-famous photographer nearly loses everything — and turns it into a movement redefining aging?


In this powerful conversation, David Stewart shares his journey from shooting Vogue covers and working with Andy Warhol’s circle, to battling a life-threatening autoimmune disease that forced him to rethink everything. Out of crisis came transformation — and the creation of Ageist and Super Age, two platforms challenging stereotypes about aging and proving that purpose, health, and vitality don’t fade with time.


Watch now to discover how to stay healthier, live longer, and embrace your true greatness.


Timestamps:

00:00 Catching up: Manhattan, travel, and life during Covid

01:36 Childhood, school struggles, and proving people wrong

04:07 Studying engineering, switching to political science, and discovering photography

06:14 Declaring himself a photographer, early Vogue ad, and move to Paris

07:01 Life in New York: Andy Warhol’s scene, magazine covers, and big clients

08:02 Health crisis, autoimmune disease, and a year in hospital

10:00 Turning point: removing his spleen and changing lifestyle

11:01 The birth of Ageist: challenging age stereotypes in media and advertising

14:50 White-light moment with AT&T campaign and marketing blind spots

18:50 Age dysmorphia, beauty industry challenges, and why older audiences are complex

21:27 From Ageist to Super Age: growth, readership, and global impact

25:27 Health transformation and connecting mindset with the body

30:00 Teaching moments: embodied wisdom, confidence, and breaking limits

33:55 What Super Age does: informing, inspiring, and offering trusted tools

35:10 Longevity pillars: sleep, fitness, stress management, and community

37:31 Why grip strength and VO₂ max matter for longevity

41:42 Smart habits vs. fads: avoiding “dumb stuff” and focusing on basics

44:39 Managing stress, hormetic adaptation, and resilience

45:00 Why men chase longevity more than women

46:04 Thoughts on Brian Johnson and longevity biohacking

47:50 The future of health: AI-driven personalized medicine

51:28 Wearables: when they help vs. when they hurt

53:12 Passing wisdom to the next generation: embracing greatness and usefulness

56:15 Final reflections: passion, usefulness, and living as a contender


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#Longevity #HealthyAging #RedefiningAging #SuperAge #Ageist #MidlifeReinvention #MindsetMatters #AgingWell #LifeAfterCrisis #HealthTransformation #Vitality #BreakingAgingStereotypes #AgingStrong #LongevityLifestyle #AgelessLiving

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1 month ago
1 hour

The Midlife Chrysalis
Midlife Awakening & Spiritual Growth with Anne Lamott & Neal Allen

What happens when a bestselling writer and a former corporate executive dive deep into life’s second half?


In this powerful conversation, Anne Lamott and Neal Allen share raw, funny, and moving stories about midlife transformation, spiritual awakening, recovery, and how to finally silence that relentless inner critic. From faith and writing to intimacy, aging, and finding purpose, their wisdom will leave you inspired — and maybe even rethinking your own path.


👉 Don’t miss this chance to hear life-changing insights from two voices who know the journey inside out. Watch now and discover how midlife can become your most powerful chapter yet.


Timestamps:

00:00 From Corporate Life to Spiritual Coaching

06:08 Annie’s Christian Spirituality

08:19 Annie’s Childhood, Religion & Humor

12:46 Embracing Christianity in a Ghetto Church

14:40 Annie’s Left-Wing Christianity Views

17:23 Anne’s Washington Post Columns on Aging

21:04 Imposter Syndrome & Life After 50

24:50 The Value of Intimacy & Deeper Connection

28:51 Taming the Inner Critic Workshop

33:46 Wisdom Bumper Stickers


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#AnneLamott #NealAllen #MidlifeChrysalis #SpiritualGrowth #LifeAfter50 #InnerCritic #WritingCommunity #RecoveryJourney #ChristianSpirituality #PersonalTransformation #MindfulnessPractice #AgingWisdom #SpiritualCoaching #SelfAwarenessJourney #FaithAndHealing

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2 months ago
42 minutes 22 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
How to Rewrite Your Story After a Life Quake with Bruce Feiler

What if the most painful disruptions in life—illness, job loss, divorce, or even an empty nest, were actually the keys to growth?


Bestselling author Bruce Feiler shares how “life quakes” shake up our stories and push us to rewrite them. From his own battle with cancer and family upheaval to studying hundreds of life transitions, Bruce reveals why resilience is a skill, not a trait, and how rituals, creativity, and storytelling can turn crisis into renewal. Dive into his powerful seven tools for navigating transitions, learn why the myth of the midlife crisis is outdated, and how to finally become the hero of your own story.


✨ Tune in to discover how to transform life’s hardest moments into your greatest turning points.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:40 Introduction to Bruce Feiler

02:24 Background, early life & first book

07:09 Life quakes and losing control of your story

12:15 Knowing when a transition is complete

18:11 The three stages of transition

24:40 Seven tools for navigating transitions

30:31 Acceptance and rituals to mark change

35:18 The ritual renaissance & new book preview

41:28 Routine vs. ritual explained

45:09 Shedding habits & finding creativity

49:19 Updating your story & unveiling your new self

51:19 The debate: midlife vs. transitions at all ages

58:51 Wisdom bumper sticker

01:04:22 Closing reflections & gratitude


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#BruceFeiler #LifeQuakes #MidlifeTransitions #ReinventYourself #LifeIsInTheTransitions, #PersonalGrowth #OvercomingCrisis #FindingMeaning #ResilienceInMidlife #RewriteYourStory #RitualsAndRenewal #MidlifeReinvention #SelfDiscoveryJourney #ThrivingThroughChange #BeTheHeroOfYourStory

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2 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes 24 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Elizabeth Gilbert’s Untold Story of Love and Addiction

How do you survive when the person you can’t live without begins to destroy you?


In this powerful episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Elizabeth Gilbert joins Chip Conley to share the raw story behind her new memoir, All the Way to the River. She opens up about walking alongside her partner through addiction and relapse, confronting her own patterns of codependency, and finding healing through recovery and surrender. It’s an honest, unfiltered look at love, loss, and what it really takes to stand on your own two feet.


Tune in now to hear Elizabeth Gilbert as you’ve never heard her before.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:40 Introduction to Elizabeth Gilbert

03:06 All the Way to the River book

06:06 Why it took 7 years to write

07:21 A forensic look at repeating patterns

10:36 Love vs. addiction in relationships

13:49 How Liz met Raya & their evolving bond

19:55 Confessing love during Raya’s illness

25:31 Grief, loss, and missing her friend

27:18 Writing in solitude & surrendering to truth

35:00 Surrender, recovery, and true powerlessness

41:21 Dark thoughts & God’s voice

45:15 What sex & love addiction means for Liz

51:36 12-step practices & six years of abstinence

54:35 Reflections on MEA and retreat power

58:22 Wisdom bumper sticker


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#MidlifeChrysalis #ElizabethGilbert #AllTheWayToTheRiver #GriefJourney #AddictionRecovery #LoveAndLoss #Codependency #HealingFromTrauma #12StepRecovery #SexAndLoveAddiction #SpiritualGrowth #MemoirWriting #MidlifeWisdom #EmotionalSobriety #LifeLessons

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2 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 22 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
From Punk Rock Pastor to Spiritual Outlaw: Rob Bell’s Midlife Reinvention

What happens when one of America’s most celebrated pastors dares to question everything?


In this unfiltered conversation, Rob Bell, once dubbed the “punk rock pastor” and author of the explosive bestseller Love Wins, opens up about the controversy that made him Christianity’s most talked-about heretic, why he walked away from his megachurch at the height of fame, and how midlife pushed him to reinvent himself.


From faith and psychedelics to wisdom traditions, AI, and the art of living an unpigeonholable life, Rob’s journey is as provocative as it is inspiring. Whether you see him as a rebel, visionary, or outlaw, one thing’s clear: you won’t walk away from this episode thinking the same.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:35 Meet Rob Bell

02:08 Following a Calling & Evolving

05:16 Early Life & First Sermons

11:04 Starting Mars Hill Church

13:02 Performance Art Preaching

15:01 Controversy & Pushback

16:44 Rise to Time’s 100 Most Influential People

21:10 Leaving the Church & Midlife Transition

26:25 Reinventing in His 40s

29:58 Evolving Faith & Moving Beyond Doctrine

31:46 The Greatest Unlearning

35:00 Surfing, painting & daily rituals

38:15 Reconnecting with Spirituality

40:25 On Psychedelics & Temples

44:57 From Knowledge to Wisdom

51:16 Redefining Intelligence

54:56 Rob’s Wisdom Bumper Sticker

57:47 Closing Reflections

Chip shares key takeaways on creativity, freedom, and living beyond expectations.


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

#RobBell #MidlifeChrysalis #PunkRockPastor #LoveWins #SpiritualJourney #MidlifeTransitions #FindingPurpose #WisdomTraditions #SpiritualAwakening #FaithAndCreativity #LeavingReligion #SpiritualGrowth #Unpigeonholable #MidlifeSpirituality #CareerEvolution

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2 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 9 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
How Intergenerational Living Creates Purpose & Joy | Marc Freedman

What if aging wasn’t about slowing down—but about leveling up?


In this powerful conversation, Marc Freedman, founder of Encore.org (now CoGenerate), unpacks the surprising history of retirement, why communities like Sun City reshaped how we see aging, and how we can flip the script on what it means to grow older. From encore careers to intergenerational mentorship, Marc shows why midlife is no dead end—it’s a launchpad for purpose, impact, and connection.


If you’ve ever wondered how to thrive after 50, find meaning in your “second act,” or simply stay relevant in a rapidly changing world, this episode will change how you see the road ahead.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:39 Marc Freedman as Chip’s “modern elder”

02:46 How aging became feared, not revered

04:26 Why older people are no longer revered

07:30 Rise of retirement communities

13:14 Why people question retirement as a goal

15:56 Marc’s personal view on retirement

18:36 The origins & evolution of CoGenerate

24:10 Why intergenerational connection matters

27:46 What CoGenerate does to help

31:52 Big policy ideas for the future

37:31 Tips for those nearing retirement

44:15 Upcoming workshop with Chip

48:47 Wisdom bumper sticker

50:51 How does Marc measure success

54:00 Wrapping up


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#MarcFreedman #EncoreCareers #ModernElder #MidlifeReinvention #FindingPurpose #LifeAfterRetirement #GenerationalCollaboration #CrossGenerational #AgingWell #WisdomAtWork #EncoreOrg #CoGenerate #ModernElderAcademy #SecondActCareers #PurposeDrivenLife

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3 months ago
58 minutes 21 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
Aging Boldly and Living on Your Own Terms with Karen Walrond

Author, speaker, and “Radiant Rebel” Karen Walrond joins Chip Conley for a warm, inspiring conversation on how to age with joy, live on your own terms, and keep your spark alive.


From growing up between Trinidad and the U.S., to leaving engineering and law for a creative life, Karen’s story is full of bold choices and unexpected turns. She shares cultural insights on aging, how to break free from the “success script,” and the seven playful experiments from her new book In Defense of Dabbling that prove it’s never too late to try something new.


Packed with heart, humor, and practical wisdom, this episode will leave you smiling and inspired to chase your own adventures.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:45 Introduction to Karen Walrond

01:58 Growing up & career journey

06:50 Midlife shift toward writing and creative work

11:38 Cultural perspectives on aging in Trinidad vs. the U.S.

16:55 Defining the “Radiant Rebellion”

19:14 Resisting societal scripts

23:06 Aging in non-white cultures

31:43 Collaboration with Brené Brown

36:12 Introducing In Defense of Dabbling

40:03 The 7 attributes of dabbling

44:08 Why trying new things matters as we age

50:42 Karen’s experience teaching at MEA workshops

53:11 Karen’s wisdom bumper sticker

57:10 Chips’s closing reflections on joy, culture, and lifelong learning


Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


#AgingBoldly #MidlifeReinvention #RadiantRebellion #LifeOnYourOwnTerms #NeverTooLate #MidlifeTransformation #CuriosityAndPlay #JoyfulAging #BreakingFree #LiveFully #MidlifeMotivation #RedefiningSuccess #KeepYourSparkAlive #IntentionalLiving #TrySomethingNew

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3 months ago
1 hour 31 seconds

The Midlife Chrysalis
The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.