The MindfulMess is hosted by Gene Sun and Matt Salmon, two people who seek to learn and grow as humans. Gene is a fitness professional studying organizational psychology and a first generation queer Asian American who sees every conversation as an opportunity to both express and shape his cultural identity. Matt is a pediatric and adult psychiatrist, who is queer, autistic, and is thriving after trauma from conversion therapy. We will share our experiences & how we've gown from them, be curious about others', and invite you all to share in this journey with us. New episodes every Saturday!
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The MindfulMess is hosted by Gene Sun and Matt Salmon, two people who seek to learn and grow as humans. Gene is a fitness professional studying organizational psychology and a first generation queer Asian American who sees every conversation as an opportunity to both express and shape his cultural identity. Matt is a pediatric and adult psychiatrist, who is queer, autistic, and is thriving after trauma from conversion therapy. We will share our experiences & how we've gown from them, be curious about others', and invite you all to share in this journey with us. New episodes every Saturday!
Welcome to Episode 6, where we pick up our conversation about relationships! We kick things off by trying to debunk the idea that relationships always end in or because of failure, and to reframe challenges and conflicts in our relationships as experiences in which we learn more about ourselves and our relational identities. Gene ponders whether relationships can downgrade or transfer laterally in closeness and connection in contrast to assuming that all relationships ought to naturally deepen. Next, we highlight the personal power we have in establishing adult relationships; they can be whatever we want them to be! Gene & Matt branch off by discussing a particularly unique relationship, which is between patient and therapist, and the implications of a more one-sided information exchange. Finally, we bring up the topic of chosen family and what that means to us. Enjoy the show!
Show mentions:
Stutz, a documentary by Jonah Hill, about his psychiatrist, Phil Stutz
You can find it on Netflix here!
The MindfulMess with Gene & Matt
The MindfulMess is hosted by Gene Sun and Matt Salmon, two people who seek to learn and grow as humans. Gene is a fitness professional studying organizational psychology and a first generation queer Asian American who sees every conversation as an opportunity to both express and shape his cultural identity. Matt is a pediatric and adult psychiatrist, who is queer, autistic, and is thriving after trauma from conversion therapy. We will share our experiences & how we've gown from them, be curious about others', and invite you all to share in this journey with us. New episodes every Saturday!
