My guest on this episode is magician Greg Dubin. I spotlight his career in magic and theater. Greg was kind enough to show me around his venue and even gave me a sneak peek of the good old streets of his NYC neighborhood. This neighborhood is home to his venue, Precision Clocks and Watches. A clock shop in the front and hidden in the back, a magic venue! Incredible!
Links:
https://www.dubinmagic.com/
@drifting_phantom
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On this episode, I am pleased to have sat down with magician Doc Docherty. I really enjoyed this episode spotlighting his career and his incredible show in Asheville, NC. Enjoy this episode! Please subscribe to stay up to date on the latest episodes!
Links:
https://ashevillemagicshow.com/
@drifting_phantom
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Summary
In this conversation, magician Will Coile shares his journey from a young boy fascinated by magic to a performer who intertwines personal storytelling with his craft. He discusses the importance of community, the evolution of his performances, and the emotional themes he explores through magic. Will emphasizes the significance of aesthetics, the power of silence in performance, and the challenges of vulnerability when sharing personal experiences with audiences. In this engaging conversation, Will Coile discusses the evolution of his magic career, emphasizing the importance of personal storytelling and emotional connection in performances. He reflects on the challenges of sharing personal experiences, the transition from his previous persona, William the Great, and the desire to create authentic and intentional magic experiences. The dialogue explores the influences that shape his craft, the significance of community in magic, and the creative process behind developing new shows.
Links:
https://willcoile.com/
@willcoile
@driftingphantom
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Links:
https://www.christiancagigal.com
@christiancagigal
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Summary
In this engaging conversation, Christian Cagigal shares his journey into the world of magic, exploring the influences of his childhood, the intersection of magic and theater, and the cultural elements that shape his performances. He discusses the evolution of spooky and bizarre magic, the impact of personal experiences with death, and the role of community in creating a unique magic experience. Cagigal emphasizes the importance of storytelling, imagination, and implicit narratives in his work, while also reflecting on the nature of skepticism and belief in magic. In this conversation, Christian Cagigal and Benny explore the intersection of gothic imagery, spooky aesthetics, and the art of magic. They discuss how to create a safe space for audiences while engaging them through storytelling and personal narratives. The dialogue also touches on the evolution of close-up magic, the influence of theater on performance, and the impact of online magic on new generations. Christian reflects on his experiences consulting for theatrical productions and the importance of reaching out to heroes in the magic community. In this engaging conversation, Benny and Christian Cagigal delve into the intricate world of mentalism, storytelling, and the distinctive performance style of spooky magic. They discuss the importance of audience engagement, the ethics of mentalism, and the intersection of magic with history and belief systems. Christian shares his experiences with psychics and the evolution of belief, while also delving into the challenges and rewards of performing in a speakeasy environment. The dialogue highlights the commitment required to create impactful magic and the nuances of connecting with an audience.
Summary:
In this episode, I sit down with one of the sharpest and funniest minds in magic. From her early start learning card tricks in Chicago to becoming a standout performer in New York City’s most respected close-up rooms, she’s carved out a style that blends wit, tension, and technical skill in a way that’s entirely her own.
We talk about what it means to hold someone’s attention, why close-up magic still matters, and how humor becomes a kind of sleight-of-hand on its own. Plus—plenty of laughs, and a surprise cameo from the infamous Kiwi.
Links:
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Instagram:
@rachelwaxmagic
@speakeasymagick
@driftiningphantam
rachelwax.com
Summary
In this engaging conversation, Franco Piscali shares his journey through the worlds of magic and cardistry, discussing his influences, creative processes, and the importance of performance. He emphasizes the emotional connection created during performances and the role of failure in learning. Franco also explores the intersection of magic and cardistry, highlighting how they can complement each other. Additionally, he introduces CardoLago as a creative hub for his work, focusing on usability and artistic expression. In this engaging conversation, Benny and Franco explore the intricate world of magic and cardistry, discussing the emotional connection to creating playing cards, the art of performance, and the impact of digital media on magic. They delve into the creative process, the importance of collaboration, and the evolving nature of magic as an art form. Franco shares his experiences in the film industry and the joy of inspiring others through his craft, emphasizing the significance of creativity and connection in the world of magic.
Links:
https://cartelago.la/
@francopascali
@thebennyslade
@mosessionpod
Summary
Links:@elliottterral
@thebennyslade
In this engaging conversation, Benny and Elliott Terrell explore the profound impact of magic and personal growth on their lives. They discuss the importance of living a life worth commenting on, the influence of childhood icons like Steve Irwin and Mr. Rogers, and the journey of self-discovery through the art of conjuring. Elliott shares his experiences with mentorship, the role of self-teaching, and the intersection of art and craft in magic, ultimately revealing how these elements shape one's identity and purpose. In this conversation, Elliott Terral and Benny explore the deeper aspects of conjuring and magic, discussing the importance of spirituality, trust, and mindfulness in performance. They delve into the development of subtle senses to uncover truth and the journey from mastery to authenticity in the craft. The discussion also highlights the creation of a new educational space in magic that emphasizes deeper thinking and authenticity. In this conversation, Elliott Terral and Benny explore the evolution of magic, the importance of community, and the role of perception in performance. They discuss the impact of consistency in one's craft, the necessity of stepping back to gain perspective, and the need for a supportive and loving magic community. The dialogue also delves into the development of taste in magic, the significance of aligning intention with performance, and the challenges posed by the current magic politics. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of creating a positive environment for magicians and the future of the art form. In this conversation, Benny and Elliott Terral explore the multifaceted role of the wand in magic, discussing its symbolism, the importance of coherence in performance, and the subtleties that contribute to a magician's effectiveness. They delve into the significance of building relationships within the craft, the future of magic in society, and performers' emotional and artistic responsibilities. In this conversation, Elliott Terral discusses his journey through imposter syndrome, the evolution of the magic community, and the importance of mentorship and personal growth. He emphasizes the need for a new approach to teaching magic that focuses on empowering individuals rather than just honing technical skills. The dialogue also touches on societal power dynamics, generational shifts in perspective, and the role of fashion in performance. Elliott advocates for a harmonious community of magicians who can positively influence the world.
Summary
In this episode, Benny reflects on his podcast journey, expressing gratitude to past guests and sharing insights from his interviews with prominent magicians. He discusses the creative process behind his podcast, the importance of experimentation in magic, and the significance of the wand in performances. Benny also explores the magic scene in Atlanta and shares his writing endeavors, emphasizing listener engagement and plans for the podcast.
Summary
In this conversation, Matthew Holtzclaw shares his journey into the world of magic, from his early influences and experiences in a small magic shop to his growth as a performer in New York City. He discusses the evolution of magic, the importance of quality performances, and the resurgence of live magic. Holtzclaw emphasizes the need for authenticity and connection with audiences, offering insights and advice for young magicians looking to find their voice in the craft. In this engaging conversation, Matt Holtzclaw shares his insights on the journey to authenticity in performance, the challenges of consulting in the magic world, and the importance of collaboration. He discusses the evolution of magic, the emotional impact it can have on audiences, and the significance of mentorship for aspiring magicians. The conversation also touches on the role of women in magic and the future of the art form, emphasizing the need for community and support among performers.
Chapters
Links:
https://www.matthewholtzclaw.com/
https://speakeasymagick.com/
https://www.slipperroom.com/
Instgram:
@matthewholztclaw
@Bennysladewzrd
00:00 The Magic Origin Story
03:27 Influences and Mentorship in Magic
06:23 Navigating the New York Magic Scene
09:32 The Impact of Iconic Magicians
12:31 The Evolution of Magic Performance
15:23 Resurgence of Live Magic
18:33 Audience Expectations and Quality Magic
21:33 The Future of Magic in a Digital Age
25:00 The Art of Magic: Learning from the Masters
27:56 The Evolution of Performance: From Script to Spontaneity
31:31 Creating Connection: Engaging with the Audience
34:37 Navigating Modern Challenges: Phones and Distractions
42:21 Advice for Young Magicians: Finding Your Voice
44:46 The Balance of Performance and Authenticity
45:52 Consulting in the Magic World
48:22 Challenges in Collaborative Productions
49:43 The Overrated Nature of Broadway
51:21 Reimagining Classic Stories
53:14 The Cost of Magic and Storytelling
55:04 Evolving as a Performer
57:10 The Importance of Authenticity in Magic
01:00:41 Keeping Magic Fresh and Innovative
01:05:24 The Importance of Versatility in Performance
01:07:48 Teaching the Next Generation of Magicians
01:10:19 The Evolution of Magic and Performance
01:13:36 Advice for Aspiring Magicians
01:16:45 Navigating the Magic Community
01:21:29 Women in Magic and Their Unique Challenges
01:25:37 The Secrets Behind the Performance
01:27:18 MO OUTRO 2025.mp3
Summary
In this conversation, John Wilson discusses the evolution of magic and conjuring, the significance of Dark Arts Press, and the importance of performance and theatricality in magic. He explores the distinction between ritual and art in magic, introduces the concept of the Invisible College, and reflects on Vernon's influence on modern magic. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a deeper understanding and appreciation of magic as an art form rather than mere tricks. In this conversation, John Wilson discusses the intricacies of magic performance, emphasizing the importance of surprise, naturalness, and thoughtfulness behind every move. He reflects on his creative partnership with Jared, the significance of detail in magic, and the evolving landscape of the magic community. Wilson also shares insights on the future of magic, the impact of Dark Arts Press, and the importance of understanding the power of magic in enriching experiences.
Links:
https://www.johnwilsonwizard.com/
https://www.darkartspress.com/
Chapters
00:00 The Birth of Dark Arts Press
32:48 Writing for the Magician vs. the Person Behind
35:45 Ritual and Art in Magic
38:46 The Concept of the Invisible College
41:42 Framing for Wizards: Teaching and Learning
44:32 The Practical Philosophy of Magic
47:44 Creating Real Experiences in Magic
50:44 The Creative Partnership with Jared
57:17 The Evolution of Magic Sessions
58:31 The Future of Magic: Politics and Perspectives
01:01:19 Diverse Paths in the Magic Community
01:04:41 The Impact of Online Learning in Magic
01:07:06 The Art of Improvement in Magic
01:10:14 Understanding the Power of Magic
01:12:23 Dark Arts Press and Future Endeavors
01:17:16 The Impact of Magic on Wizards
01:23:37 MO 2025 Outro.mp3
Summary
LINKS:
https://www.magicafterhours.com/
https://www.writerscenter.org/event-details/platform-magic
https://geniimagazine.com/
https://www.tannens.com/
Follow:
@magicafterhours
@noahjlevine
@mosessionpod
@onebennyedals
In this conversation, Noah Levine shares his journey into the world of magic, discussing early inspirations, the evolution of his performances, and the importance of adapting to different venues. He reflects on the role of teaching magic, particularly insights gained from working with actors, and the significance of creating unique experiences like 'Magic After Hours.' The discussion also touches on the legacy of Tannins, the importance of history in magic, and the transformative experience of magic camp. Noah emphasizes the balance of encouragement within the magic community and the role of publications like Genii magazine in shaping the discourse around magic. He also shares insights from his experiences during the pandemic and the impact of mentorship on his craft.
Chapters
00:00 The Early Roots of Magic
04:36 The Impact of Venue on Performance
07:20 Teaching Magic to Actors
09:47 Creating Magic After Hours
12:41 The Legacy of Tannins Magic Shop
17:56 The Importance of Magic History
21:25 Experiences at Tannins Magic Camp
26:03 The Evolution of Magic Communities
33:33 Exploring Platform Magic
37:56 The Evolution of Virtual Magic Shows
43:30 The Revamp of Jeannie Magazine
48:52 Reconnecting with the Joy of Magic
53:17 The Influence of Tim Conover
01:00:38 MO OUTRO 2025.mp3
Summary
In this engaging conversation, Benny Slade interviews Kent Gunn, a seasoned magician and founder of the GGG convention. Kent shares his lifelong passion for magic, his experiences in the Navy, and how they shaped his performance style. He discusses his unique Cups and Balls routine, the magic community's evolution, and real-world performance's importance. Kent also offers valuable advice for young magicians, emphasizing the significance of practice, rehearsal, and performing for live audiences. The conversation concludes with reflections on the current state of magic and the camaraderie within the community.
Links:
https://gatorgategathering.com/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Kent Gunn and His Magic Journey
06:06 The Influence of the Navy on Magic Performance
09:47 The Fun Shop Cups and Balls Routine
12:13 The GGG Convention: A Community of Magicians
21:55 The Current State of Magic and Its Evolution
29:05 The Art of Deception in Magic
30:38 Mentorship and Teaching in Magic
31:53 Advice for Aspiring Magicians
32:43 The Evolution of Magic Literature
34:44 Influences and Inspirations in Magic
36:10 Memorable Experiences with Legendary Magicians
38:06 The Importance of Historical Context in Magic
39:46 The Legacy of Vernon and Close-Up Magic
41:55 Life Lessons from Magic and Personal Choices
43:39 Advice from Experienced Magicians
49:12 Key Takeaways for the Next Generation of Magicians
55:18 24.mp3
Summary
In this reflective episode, Benny Slade discusses the impact of the late Jon Racherbaumer on the magic community, shares highlights from recent podcast episodes featuring various guests, and emphasizes the importance of community engagement. He also opens up about his passion for writing and the challenges of content creation, while expressing gratitude for the support he has received from listeners. The episode concludes with a reminder to keep exploring and connecting within the magic community.
Links:
The Dope
thedope.substack.com
Summary
In this episode, Benny Slade sits down with Steve Langston, the current IBM president for Ring 9 in Atlanta, Georgia. Steve, is also The Greater Atlanta Magician of the Year for 2023! They discuss Steve's journey into magic, the importance of community and leadership within magic clubs, and the evolution of performance. Steve shares insights on creating and sharing magic, giving back to the community, and offers valuable advice for young magicians. The conversation also touches on legacy and future aspirations in the world of magic.
Links:
https://www.stevelangston.com/
Corner Piece: https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/19393
Free Thought:
https://tccmagic.com/products/free-thought-by-steve-langston-tcc-magic
https://www.gamagicclub.com/leadership
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Magic and Community
05:20 Steve's Journey into Magic
10:01 The Evolution of Performance
15:24 Creating and Sharing Magic Effects
26:01 Exploring the Art of Card Magic
27:18 The Evolution of Practice in Magic
30:44 The Joy of Writing and Creating Magic
34:11 Leadership in the Magic Community
39:51 Building a Legacy in Magic
44:05 Advice for Aspiring Magicians
51:03 24.mp3
Summary
In this engaging conversation, magician Alex Boyce shares his journey into the world of magic, discussing his early influences, the evolution of his performance style, and his experiences performing in unique settings, including Cuba. He reflects on his time at Tannen's Magic Camp, the transition to Speakeasy Magic, and the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic. Alex also offers valuable advice for aspiring magicians, emphasizing the importance of passion and continuous learning in magic.
Links:
Instagram: @boycealex @mosessionpod
Speakeasy Magic:https://speakeasymagick.com/
Tannen's:https://www.tannens.com/
69 Atlantic:https://www.69atlantic.com/
Alex Boyce Magic:https://www.boycemagic.com/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Early Influences
08:10 Crafting a Unique Persona
11:45 Consulting for Theatrical and Film Projects
14:42 Performing Magic in Cuba
20:23 Tannen's Magic Camp
25:32 Giving Back to Magic
28:32 Magic Camps and the Magic Community
33:09 The Shift to Virtual Shows
41:26 Bizarre Brooklyn: A Unique Magic Experience
48:23 The Importance of Passion and Taste in Magic
54:55 Non-Magic Influences on Magic Performances
58:34 24.mp3
Summary
In this engaging conversation, Jeff Corn shares his journey into the world of magic, highlighting the significant influences and mentors that shaped his craft. From his early experiences with magic in the 90s to his time spent learning from the legendary Johnny Thompson, Jeff discusses the evolution of his performance style, the unique opportunities he encountered while performing at the Grand Canyon, and the importance of collaboration and creativity in magic. He emphasizes the universal nature of magic and the obligation magicians have to honor those who came before them, while also exploring the balance between tradition and innovation in the art form. In this engaging conversation, Benny and Jeff explore the multifaceted world of magic, discussing the emotional impact of performances, the evolution of magic techniques, and the importance of mentorship. They delve into the cultural influences shaping modern magic and the significance of personal growth and artistic expression in a magician's journey. The dialogue emphasizes the need for aspiring magicians to embrace their unique paths while respecting the art form's rich history.
Links:
Instagram: @thejeffcorn
@mosessionpod
Chapters
00:00 The Early Influence of Magic Specials and Mentors
08:42 The Impact of Influential Magicians on Style and Performance
16:03 Adapting Magic to New Environments and Audiences
18:58 The Importance of Detailed Notebooks in Magic
25:43 Challenges and Opportunities of Performing at Trade Shows
30:08 The Challenges of Street Magic
33:39 Collaborating with Magicians and Contributing to Publications
35:53 Structuring Acts with a Clear Through-line
43:27 Admiration for Frank Garcia, Tom Mullica, and Alan Ackerman
57:25 Understanding and Admiring Magicians
59:45 The Art of Performing Magic Appropriately
01:02:05 The Power of Magic for Kids and Adults
01:03:52 The Impact of Magicians' Performances
01:07:03 The Concept of 'Master Magician'
01:08:47 The Evolution of Coin Magic
01:12:04 Incorporating Other Interests into Magic
01:15:01 The Role of Mentorship and Older Books in Magic
01:16:37 The Fascination with Coin Magic
01:20:49 The Sharp Divide in Coin Magic
01:25:02 Embracing Diverse Interests in Magic
01:28:27 The Importance of the Artistic Journey
01:33:42 Advice for Aspiring Magicians
01:36:45 Enjoying the Practice
01:41:57 Leaving Magic Better Than You Found It
01:52:25 24.mp3
Takeaways
Jeff's journey into magic began with childhood influences.
Johnny Thompson served as a significant mentor for Jeff.
The environment in Las Vegas shaped Jeff's performance style.
Residency at the Grand Canyon provided unique performance opportunities.
Notebooks play a crucial role in Jeff's creative process.
Tailoring performances for diverse audiences is essential.
Collaboration with other magicians enhances creativity and growth.
Learning from the greats is vital for evolving as a magician.
Balancing tradition and innovation is key to the future of magic.
Magic is a universal language that transcends barriers. Watching a great magician can evoke immense pride.
Emotional connections in magic can lead to profound experiences.
There is a distinction between performing for children and performing magic for kids.
The evolution of magic is influenced by cultural exchanges.
Mentorship plays a crucial role in a magician's development.
The journey of learning magic is as important as the tricks themselves.
Artistic expression in magic can incorporate various personal interests.
The global magic community is a melting pot of styles and techniques.
Respect for the craft is essential for the future of magic.
Always strive to leave magic better than you found it.
Summary
In this episode, the speaker discusses the process of putting together a magic show and connecting different effects. They emphasize the importance of having a clear idea of the type of show you want to do and the style that fits your personality. The speaker also talks about the significance of paying attention to details in the environment and creating a flow and rhythm in your set. They suggest organizing effects into three main categories, such as cups, coins, and cards, and expanding on each category with different variations and connector moves. The speaker also gives shoutouts to magicians Steve Reynolds and Jeff Price for their innovative work.
Keywords
magic show, connecting effects, show style, attention to details, flow and rhythm, organizing effects, variations, connector moves, shoutouts
Takeaways
Titles
Organizing Effects: Cups, Coins, and Cards
Creating a Flow and Rhythm in Your Magic Set
Sound Bites
"If you can cross all those things off your list, you're 100% winning."
"He is an incredible magician. And he's put in the time and the practice."
"I think it's really important to find that flow and find that rhythm when performing."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:52 The Importance of Details and Environment
07:26 Creating a Flow and Rhythm in Your Set
11:13 Organizing Effects: Cups, Coins, and Cards
14:32 Connecting Effects and Building Sets
18:55 Exploring Connector Moves for Smooth Transitions
28:39 Shoutouts to Steve Reynolds and Jeff Price
Summary
In this episode, the host discusses the importance of using quality props, tools, and effects in magic performances. He emphasizes the need for props that are appropriate for the setting and audience, such as using classic decks of cards for elegant events. The host also talks about the importance of personal grooming and presentation in creating a professional image. He provides examples of quality props, including cups and balls, coins, wands, and wallets. The host also mentions the significance of creating substance in magic performances and the current resurgence of the golden age of magic.
Keywords
magic, props, tools, effects, quality, performance, audience, classic, decks of cards, cups and balls, coins, wands, wallets, substance, golden age
Titles
Creating Substance in Magic Performances
The Resurgence of the Golden Age of Magic
Sound Bites
"I can't stand seeing magicians perform."
"From top to bottom, you want to make sure that it's good."
"A darker ball is what I like, especially if I'm on green, a green close-up pad, it works better for me."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:00 The Importance of Quality Props
03:06 Personal Grooming and Presentation
07:03 Choosing Appropriate Props
10:26 Quality Coins
11:24 The Significance of Wands
19:11 Creating Substance in Magic Performances
21:09 The Resurgence of the Golden Age of Magic
23:22 Quality Wallets
24:21 Conclusion