In this week’s episode of The ND Gap, Jordan unpacks one of the most complex intersections in modern evidence-based practice: hormone therapy, longevity medicine, and cognitive decline.
While she remains a strong advocate for hormone therapy in the right clinical context, the conversation shifts when we start talking about dementia prevention. Jordan walks through why cognitive decline is so difficult to study, why prevention data rarely behaves the way we want it to, and what it means for clinicians when we’re making decisions in long timelines with imperfect evidence.
She breaks down where HRT has clear cognitive benefits, particularly for patients with early or sudden menopause and where the picture becomes far less certain.
This episode isn’t about fear. It’s about balance. Jordan helps clinicians understand how to weigh prevention, patient values, and real risk, and how to make decisions that honour nuance instead of narratives.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
In this week’s episode of The ND Gap, Jordan sits down with Dr. Trevor Cates, ND, to explore what it truly takes to build a sustainable and resilient business ecosystem in naturopathic medicine. Trevor has spent decades creating, refining, and rebuilding multiple business models, and her perspective is a refreshing blend of practicality and optimism.
Together, they dig into the mindset required to grow something meaningful, how to navigate the inevitable challenges of entrepreneurship, and why relentless optimism is not naïve but a strategic advantage. Trevor shares the lessons she’s learned from scaling, pivoting, and leading through seasons of uncertainty, and how NDs can build businesses that feel aligned, adaptable, and durable.
Whether someone is early in their career, deep into leadership, or somewhere in between, this conversation offers a wider lens for understanding their business and reconnecting with the possibilities inside their own ecosystem.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Trevor Cates is a naturopathic physician, bestselling author of Clean Skin From Within and Natural Beauty Reset, and the first woman licensed as a naturopathic doctor in California. With over 25 years of clinical experience, she pioneered an integrative approach to skin health that addresses root causes like hormone imbalances, gut health, and environmental toxins rather than just treating symptoms topically. Dr. Cates founded The Spa Dr., a natural skincare and supplement line that she successfully built and later sold. Her work has been featured on PBS, The Doctors, and Extra TV, among other outlets.
Follow Dr. Trevor on Instagram
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
Clinic owners and associates often want the same thing: meaningful work, great patient experiences, and ideas that actually come to life. But when ideas meet reality, tensions can build quickly. Owners feel overwhelmed by the constant flow of “great ideas,” and associates feel discouraged when their creativity gets shut down.
In this week’s episode, Jordan breaks down her idea filter, a simple, structured framework that helps teams evaluate new ideas with clarity, fairness, and accountability. She explains why owners often experience every idea as “another problem to solve,” why associates can feel blocked by invisible blind spots, and how both parties can approach collaboration with more transparency and less frustration.
If you’ve ever wondered how to run programs, build initiatives, or bring new ideas to your clinic without burning out your owner (or yourself), this episode will give you the practical structure you’ve been missing.
Listen to learn how to create a true win-win with the ideas that matter most.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
In this week’s episode of The ND Gap, Jordan sits down with Dr. Sarah Vadeboncoeur, ND, for a deeply honest conversation about confidence, humility, and what it really takes to build a fulfilling career in naturopathic medicine.
They talk about breaking up with your niche, redefining success, and learning to unlearn both clinically and personally. Dr. Sarah shares her journey from “thyroid ND” to fatigue expert, the lessons she learned about listening, leadership, and letting go, and why the best thing you can do early in your career is to just start.
If you’ve ever found yourself second-guessing your path, your confidence, or what comes next in your career, this episode is a reminder that real growth doesn’t come from pushing harder, it comes from slowing down, paying attention, and truly listening to your patients and to yourself.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Sarah Vadeboncoeur is a naturopathic Doctor and host of The Fatigue Fixer podcast. For more than a decade, she’s helped women fix their fatigue and get the health care they deserve. Sarah believes that women make powerful leaders, and she wants you to have the energy you need to show up fully in your life. Through her clinical practice and her online programs, Dr. Sarah teaches women to reconnect to their body and learn to decode its language so they can unlock more energy, joy, and confidence. Sarah grew up always being told she was “too loud” and now she’s proud to be using her voice to help women understand why they are so tired and what they can do to start fixing their fatigue.
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
In this episode of The ND Gap, we announce an exciting partnership with the Canadian Association of Naturopathic Doctors.
We have one mission: to support NDs in their work and practice, helping more Canadians access naturopathic care. In this important episode, we hear from Executive Director Gemma Beierback to learn about her vision for the future of NDs, why memberships are key to our collective success, and how each of us can be an advocate for a stronger naturopathic profession.
CAND Members: Explore Affinity Program perks through your member portal and sign up for the exclusive webinar happening on November 26th.
Non-CAND Members: Explore CAND here.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Gemma Beierback is a Certified Association Executive and the current CEO of the CAND (Canadian Association of Naturopathic Doctors). Prior to joining the CAND, Gemma spent just shy of 7 years as the CEO of the Canadian Chiropractic Examining Board.
Connect with Gemma on LinkedIn Here
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
In this week’s episode, Jordan shares an honest look at how her 17-year career has evolved, and why comparing your year two to someone else’s year twenty will always leave you feeling behind.
She walks through the stages of her own professional growth, what kind of coaching she needed at each phase, and how to identify the right kind of support for where you are right now. Whether you’re just finding your footing or refining a thriving business, Jordan offers a practical framework to help you get unstuck without burning out.
This episode is equal parts reflection and strategy: a reminder that the most successful clinicians don’t skip steps, they grow through them.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
In this episode of The ND Gap, Jordan sits down with Dr. Sean Robertson to unpack the five biggest gaps in naturopathic education and how they directly affect your success as a clinician.
From unrealistic business training to the lack of guidance around associateships, ownership, and behaviour change, they break down exactly where schools fall short and what you can do to close the gap.
This is a candid, practical conversation for every ND who’s ever thought, “Why didn’t they teach us this in school?”
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram
In this week’s episode of The ND Gap, Jordan dives into the latest research on how nutrition can influence psoriasis outcomes. She walks through a groundbreaking 2025 clinical trial exploring the impact of the Mediterranean diet, specifically olive oil intake, on psoriasis severity. Jordan explains why this study matters for clinicians, what the results mean for real-world practice, and how to use evidence like this to increase patient confidence and compliance.
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram
In this episode, Jordan sits down with Dr. Jenn Salib Huber, registered dietitian, naturopathic doctor, and the voice behind @menopause.nutritionist. Jenn shares how early perimenopause at 37 completely shifted her practice, why she moved away from traditional "food as medicine" approaches, and how she built an aligned practice rooted in evidence and intuitive eating. They also dig into how to create content that connects (not just converts), why your personal story shouldn't become your treatment plan, and the most controversial take in Jenn's new book.
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Pre-order Dr. Jenn’s Book HERE
Dr. Jenn Salib Huber is a Canadian Registered Dietitian, Naturopathic Doctor, and Intuitive Eating Counsellor on a mission to help women manage menopause without diets and food rules. She supports women through the physical and emotional shifts of perimenopause and menopause using a Health at Every Size approach, intuitive eating, and practical nutrition. Jenn hosts The Midlife Feast podcast and community, and is the author of the upcoming book Eat to Thrive During Menopause, out October 21, 2025.
Connect with Dr. Jenn on Instagram
Listen to The Midlife Feast Podcast
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Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram
In this episode, Jordan tackles what to do when your treatment plan isn’t working. She breaks down the questions you need to ask, how to avoid miscommunications with patients, and why clarity, curiosity, and transparency are the keys to navigating even the toughest cases.
Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving naturopathic medicine.
In this episode, Jordan makes a compelling case for why 15-minute appointments should never exist in your naturopathic practice. She challenges listeners to "solemnly swear" they'll eliminate these appointment blocks and explains exactly why they're undermining both your values and your business.
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Clinical insights grounded in evidence
Business strategies for sustainable practice
Personal leadership for growth and resilience
The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.
Welcome to the very first episode of The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving naturopathic medicine.
In this inaugural episode, Jordan shares the vision for the podcast and why now is the time to have these conversations. She reflects on her journey from clinician and university educator to leading a movement that redefines what’s possible for NDs. You’ll hear why she left a thriving clinical practice to go “all in” on supporting naturopathic doctors, and how this podcast is part of that mission.
Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars:
Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine.
Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together.
When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at www.confidentclinicianclub.com
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Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application.