This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & MIck break down one of the most stacked episodes of the season — from Michael Greer’s 96-hour, 100,000 ft fundraiser, to the wildest NBA All-Star format yet, to a full Siskel & Ebert-style review of every major trail running documentary of 2024.

Plus: the spiciest trail drama of the year, our picks for JFK 50, and why Western States / Hardrock lottery week is about to get VERY interesting.

In this episode:• Michael Greer finishes 225 miles with 100K ft climbing• Community fundraiser for Aaron Jensen & Kelly West• NBA All-Star chaos: USA vs USA vs World• The “Black vs White All-Star Game” bit goes completely off-rails• Guinness World Record: 1,516 threes in one hour?!• Abby Hall + Kilian Jornet confirm return to Western States 2026• FULL Trail Running Film of the Year breakdown• The Finisher, The Chase, King of Moab, Nothing to Lose & more• Major trail drama of the year (McAleenan, USATF, Zach Miller, Arizona Monster)• JFK 50 predictions• Western States & Hardrock lottery hype• Plans for Austin, TRE, Tesla tour, and a quick show break

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This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & Mick dive into the strangest mix of trail running news, viral moments, and hot takes you didn’t know you needed. From Trump pardoning a trail runner to HOA rage and NBA rants, it’s equal parts ridiculous and insightful — exactly what you expect when the coffee hits before recording.

In this episode:

00:00 – Kicking off with chaos (and a quick Google search)01:00 – Jake’s “Glizzy Halloween” goes viral04:00 – NBA rant: Zion, Ja, and wasted potential09:30 – Trump pardons a trail runner?!13:50 – The 99% conviction rate rant21:20 – HOA guy named Bart gets roasted24:00 – Mask wars at 30,000 feet31:10 – Western States & Hardrock lottery talk37:40 – Barkley Marathon secrets40:10 – Cross-country shoutout in Spokane42:20 – Caleb Olson’s GT100 win47:00 – Stage races: fun or gimmick?49:30 – Who’s the real UROY?53:50 – Movie critics, Siskel & Ebert roast57:20 – Tunnel Hill records & Camille Herron debate1:04:20 – Jake vs. Scott: alternate course race idea1:07:20 – YouTube comments & Rachel vs. Tara1:20:20 – Camille’s “Men’s Meat x Women’s Race” collab1:23:20 – Sponsors, growth, and what’s next

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She’s redefining what it means to be an ultrarunner.

Rachel Entrekin — physical therapist, 200-mile champion, and one of the fastest-rising names in trail running — joins The Next Aid Station for a raw, unfiltered deep dive into the evolution of the sport, the power of storytelling, and what it really takes to win at the edge of human endurance.From racing at Mammoth and Cocodona to debating UTMB’s dominance, Rachel opens up about everything: the politics of sponsorship, how livestreams are reshaping ultrarunning, and what it feels like to be called the “Queen of 200s.”

Whether you’re a diehard fan or training for your first ultra, this is one of the most honest conversations you’ll hear about the sport’s future.

Timestamps:

⸻00:00 – Intro: The Men’s Meet x Women’s Race Collab01:00 – Meet Rachel Entrekin: The 200-Mile Queen Arrives03:00 – Running 19 Miles at 7:30 Pace (and Loving It?)05:00 – Beer, Basketball & Blue Moon Confessions07:00 – Rachel on Caitlin Clark & Why Competition Fuels Her08:30 – Can Rachel Beat Courtney Dauwalter? Let’s Talk About It10:30 – DNFs, Redemption & The Drive to Race Again12:00 – Who Gets to Decide What Races Matter?14:00 – Runners vs. Brands: Taking Back the Power16:00 – Why Live Streams Are Changing the Sport18:00 – Making Ultrarunning More Professional — Without Losing Its Soul20:00 – UTMB Is Coming to Utah: What It Means for Local Races23:00 – Are 200-Milers the Future of the Sport?25:00 – How Rachel & Jamil Are Changing Ultrarunning Forever27:00 – The Marketing Power of 200-Milers (and Why Brands Don’t Get It)30:00 – Why Visibility Matters More Than Winning33:00 – Do Prize Purses Even Matter? (Spoiler: No)35:00 – Being Labeled the “200-Mile Specialist” — and Fighting That Box37:00 – Rachel’s Big Goals: Hardrock, UTMB & Beyond40:00 – The Problem With How Athletes Are Paid43:00 – Storytelling Over Podiums: The Real Value of an Athlete46:00 – Branding, Sponsorships & What Runners Get Wrong Online48:00 – How Rachel Nearly Caught Jimmy Elam at Mammoth50:00 – Learning to “Make Moves” — Racing Smarter, Not Harder53:00 – Race Plans, Hardrock Dreams & UTMB Hopes57:00 – How Rachel Plans to Prove She Belongs Among the Best59:00 – Rachel on Inspiring Young Runners (and Her Favorite Fan Moment)01:01:00 – Why Accessibility Matters: Making Elites Relatable01:03:00 – Javelina Predictions: Who She’s Betting On01:06:00 – Rachel’s Next Chapter: From Racing to Commentating01:08:00 – Closing Thoughts: The Future of Ultra Running with Rachel Entrekin

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It finally happened — Mick toed the line at Javelina Jundred and brought home his first 100-mile belt buckle. But it didn’t come easy. From a brutal first lap in a black T-shirt and handheld bottle, to puking in the desert and pounding ginger ale to survive, this is a full breakdown of what happens when your body and mind hit the wall.

Jake and Mick dive into every lap of the legendary Javelina 100, unpacking the chaos, the lessons, and the moments that made this one unforgettable. From race-day mistakes and heat-management disasters to the ginger-ale miracle that turned it all around, this episode captures the full rollercoaster of running 100 miles in the Arizona desert.

They also cover what’s next: the off-season training block, body-composition surprises, HYROX hot takes, and the long road to Cocodona 250.

Whether you’re training for your first ultra or just love hearing what it really takes to earn a buckle, this one’s packed with grit, humor, and honesty.

What You’ll Hear In This Episode:

• The full Javelina 100-mile recap — heat, blisters, and redemption

• The fueling breakdown (why ginger ale beats water)

• Lessons learned from the crew tent and aid-station chaos

• How to fix mid-race nausea when your stomach shuts down

• Real talk on pacing, mindset, and post-race recovery

• Community moments, haters, and the rise of The Next Aid Station

• Winter training goals: F45, strength, and staying sharp for Cocodona

• Reflections on Camille’s episode, kindness, and online culture

• Behind-the-scenes: the one-bed hotel story and merch mayhem

About The Show

The Next Aid Station is the ultrarunning podcast that goes beyond splits and shoe talk — hosted by Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison, it’s where race stories meet real life. Each week, we dive deep into the highs, lows, and absurd moments that make the endurance world what it is.

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She’s a world record holder, a whistleblower, and the queen of Javelina Jundred.

In this raw and hilarious conversation, Camille Herron opens up about her world records, the truth behind the USATF controversy, and how she’s using her voice to advocate for inclusion in ultrarunning.

From tacos and super shoes to lawsuits and laughter, this is one of the most unfiltered episodes yet.

Recorded in Scottsdale before Javelina Jundred, Jake, Mick, and Scott sit down with ultrarunning icon Camille Herron — the woman who’s redefined endurance running. Camille breaks down how she’s still setting records in her 40s, her neurodivergent journey with autism and ADHD, and the real story behind her recent media controversies. Plus, she talks Taco Bell, training, fairness in sport, and why she can absolutely laugh at the “Steely Toughness” memes.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid Station

00:18 – Introducing the Queen of Javelina: Camille Herron

01:04 – Driving Chaos: Camille’s Journey to Scottsdale

01:26 – Setting World Records: The Spark that Drives Her

02:10 – From 50 Miles to 6 Days: Camille’s Record-Breaking Range

03:15 – Super Shoes & Longevity in Running

04:00 – Trails vs Roads: Why Camille Loves to Go Fast

04:50 – “What’s a Javelina?” — Camille’s Wild Desert Encounters

06:00 – Running with 1,500 People: The Javelina Party Vibe

07:00 – Taco Bell, Tacos, and World Records

08:00 – Taco Bell Sends Camille a $10 Gift Card (and a Lifetime of Laughs)

09:00 – Homemade Tacos & the Men’s Meat Shirt Connection

09:45 – Would Camille Pace a Lap at Javelina?

10:10 – Running 300 Miles and Carrying Your Own… What?!

10:57 – When Nature Calls: Camille’s Funniest Marathon Stories

11:19 – The Super Shoe Revolution Explained

13:10 – Running Boston After the Bombing: A Powerful Moment

14:00 – Rules, Fairness & Integrity: Camille’s View on Governing Bodies

16:20 – Inside the Record Controversy: When a Course Isn’t “Certified Enough”

18:00 – Calibration, Clocks, and Controversy — How Tiny Errors Cost Big

20:00 – The Hidden Bureaucracy Behind Every World Record

22:00 – “World Best” vs. “World Record” — What’s the Difference?

23:20 – How Camille Changed the Rules for Drug Testing in Ultras

24:10 – How Many World Records Does Camille Actually Hold?

25:15 – Who Could Break Her Javelina Record?

26:00 – How She Could Shave Minutes Off Her 14:03 Course Record

27:15 – The Women Who Might Be Next: Predictions for Javelina 2024

29:00 – Cheering While Racing — Why Camille Loses Her Voice

30:20 – Neurodivergence, Autism & ADHD in the Ultra World

33:00 – Breaking Down the USA Track & Field Controversy

35:00 – The Fight for Accommodations & Inclusion in Athletics

38:00 – Communication Breakdown: How It All Went Wrong with USATF

42:00 – Following Legal Advice & Protecting Herself from Misrepresentation

45:00 – What She Would (and Wouldn’t) Do Differently

47:10 – Why Inclusivity in Running Still Has a Long Way to Go

52:00 – Trail vs Road Running: Finding Calm in Chaos

55:00 – How Her Autism Diagnosis Changed Everything

57:00 – The Greatest Female Ultrarunners of All Time

59:00 – Is Camille in the Top 3? (Spoiler: Yes.)

1:01:00 – Who Inspires Camille: Ruth Croft, Courtney, Katie & More

1:03:00 – Wikipedia, Whistleblowing, and the Truth Behind the “Steely Toughness” Story

1:06:00 – Why Camille Reported Rule Violations in Ultra Running

1:07:00 – Justice Sensitivity & Integrity in Sport

1:08:00 – The Wikipedia “Scandal”: Her Side of the Story

1:10:00 – Where “Steely Toughness” Really Came From

1:13:00 – The Real Story Behind the Edits & The Lawsuit

1:16:00 – Clearing the Air: “It Was Never Me — It Was My Husband”

1:17:00 – Halloween Costumes, Humor & Good Vibes

1:20:00 – The Story Behind “Men’s Meat” and Internet Outrage

1:23:00 – Camille’s Reaction to the Men’s Meat Shirt (She Loves It)

1:24:00 – Laughing It Off: Camille’s Humor Shines

1:25:00 – Closing Thoughts with The Queen of Javelina

Recorded in Scottsdale, AZ just before Javelina Jundred, Jake and Mick sit down with Killian to talk about life after conquering Moab, Bigfoot, and Tahoe — and how he’s handling his sudden rise in the ultrarunning world. They dive deep into fueling, mindset, social media growth, and what it takes to stay disciplined when running 200+ miles at a time. Plus, the guys share some hilarious off-trail stories (including the legendary “One Guy, Four Dogs” moment)

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome to Scottsdale! Jake, Mick & Killian Kick Things Off

00:45 – “It’s Burning Man for Runners” — The Wild Vibe at Javelina Jundred

02:05 – Pre-Race Nerves, Aid Stations, and the Halloween Party Atmosphere

03:40 – Killian’s Race Goals & Coaching Athletes

04:45 – Fueling for 200-Milers: How Many Carbs Is Enough?

06:25 – Fireball Shots, Kombucha, and Pumpkin Spice: The Crew Debates Nutrition

08:10 – The “Injury” That’s Not an Injury: Killian’s Knee Tape Ritual

09:20 – From Unknown to Trail Superstar — How Moab Changed Everything

10:30 – How Killian Went Viral After Moab 240 (and What He Did Right)

12:00 – Fame, Privacy & Sponsorships — Handling the Spotlight After Moab

13:10 – Ultra Running Business Talk: Agents, Contracts, and Shoe Deals

15:00 – Should 200-Milers Count for Ultrarunner of the Year? The Debate

18:00 – What 200 Miles Really Feels Like (and Why It’s Worth It)

20:30 – Blisters, Hallucinations & Pain at Mile 200 — Moab 240 Stories

22:10 – Running With Gratitude: Why It’s All Worth It

23:00 – Motivation vs. Discipline: What Drives Elite Ultrarunners

24:20 – Avoiding Burnout & Building the Perfect Training Routine

26:10 – “It’s Just a 50” — Why Every Distance Deserves Respect

27:45 – Life After the Triple Crown: Balance, Rest & French Fries

29:00 – The Infamous “Four Guys, Four Dogs” Story (Hilarious)

33:00 – Keeping It Classy… Kinda — Laughter & Chaos in the Studio

36:30 – Coca-Dona Predictions: Who Can Beat Killian?

38:40 – Why Rachel’s One of the Best in the World (and Nobody’s Talking About It)

40:50 – What’s Next: Killian’s 2025 Goals & The Colorado Trail Dream

42:05 – San Juan Mountains Training Plans & Wrap-Up

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🎙 It’s Belt Buckle Week! Jake and Mick are fired up for the javelina 100, breaking down race strategy, fantasy picks, and the wildest ultrarunning news of the week. From UTMB coming to Utah to Camille Herron’s legal showdown, this episode is packed with controversy, comedy, and insider insight into the trail running world.

🔥 Highlights:

• UTMB rumored to launch a 100-miler in Utah

• The Moab 240 drama with Brody Chisholm & Candice Burt

• Camille Herron’s autism & USATF controversy

• Manuela's 200-mile record that no one’s talking about

• Fantasy Free Trail picks for Havalina 100 (Golden Ticket predictions!)

• Mick’s pre-race prep & Jake’s live YouTube stream plans🎯

Keywords: UTMB Utah 2025, Moab 240 controversy, Camille Herron USATF, Havalina 100 predictions, ultrarunning podcast, trail running news, The Next Aid Station, Killian Korth, David Roche, Sage Canaday, Destination Trails drama, Western States qualifiers

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This episode has everything — elite racing, wild controversy, and one of the rawest interviews we’ve ever done.Trail-runner Kilian Korth joins us fresh off his Moab 240 victory to unpack his Triple Crown sweep, insane weather, and how he handled 28 miles of mud on destroyed feet.

Jake Kilgore relives his Kodiak 100 age category win that locked a direct UTMB entry, and the guys tackle the internet drama over their now-infamous “Here for the Men’s Meet” shirt.If you love trail running, dark humor, and real conversations about racing, community, and mindset — this is your episode.

Timestamps:00:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” ControversyJake & Mick open with the viral shirt backlash — humor, misunderstanding, and how sarcasm dies on Instagram.03:20 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid StationThe hosts kick off another Tuesday episode and dive straight into recovery talk and sore-quads confessions.07:00 – The Moab 240 & Triple Crown BreakdownSetting the stage: Kilian Korth’s win, the brutal conditions, and what makes Moab different from every other 200-miler.08:10 – LIVE Call with Kilian KorthFresh off his Moab 240 victory, Kilian joins the show to unpack mud, misery, and mindset in his hardest race ever.14:00 – The Brody Leven ControversyWas he pulled too early? Kilian reacts to the drama at mile 54 and gives his take on race-director decisions.17:00 – Racing Through the Mud & Mental BattlesKilian’s raw account of the rain, exhaustion, and the mental fight that defined his Triple Crown sweep.20:00 – Aid-Station Strategy & Sleep ScienceHow Kilian managed foot pain, minimal rest, and elite-level efficiency — plus why a good crew can change everything.22:00 – What’s Next for Kilian KorthWhy he’s taking an off-season and processing the spotlight after the biggest win of his career.24:00 – Post-Interview ReactionsJake, Mick & Scott debrief the conversation, reveal behind-the-scenes footage, and tease Kilian’s documentary.30:00 – Trail Running News Round-UpCourtney Dauwalter’s road-marathon debut, Truett’s 2:25 at St. George, Connor Mantz’s new American record — full breakdown.38:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” BacklashWhy some people lost their minds over a joke tee, the meaning behind it, and how the guys plan to win skeptics over.47:00 – Kodiak 100 Recap 🏔️Jake’s full race story: training, strategy, near-perfect execution, and taking the 45-49 age-group crown (again).1:03:00 – Critical Gear Decisions That Won the RacePoles or no poles? Bladder or flasks? The tiny choices that made hours of difference.1:33:00 – Post-Race Reflection & UTMB Direct EntryEarning a UTMB spot, what it really means, and the plan heading into 2026.1:45:00 – Off-Season, Goals & Closing BanterJake on recovery mode, Mick’s Javelina prep, and the team’s next adventures.

🏆 “He ran through a storm — and came out a champion.”When freezing rain, 40 mph wind, and mud hit DC Peaks 50, Eli White didn’t just survive — he thrived. The Salt Lake Running Company athlete takes us behind the scenes of his shocking 2025 victory, sharing how he trained, fueled, and battled for the win on one of the toughest ultramarathon days ever.In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “Lucky Pierre” dive deep into Eli’s mindset, gear choices, and wildest race moments — including how a mid-race fall, caffeine boost, and strategic moves sealed his win.Whether you’re training for your first ultra or chasing a 100-mile PR, this episode is a masterclass in racing smart under pressure.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Winner IntroductionEli White joins the pod fresh off his DC Peaks 50 victory — and “People’s Choice” favorite.01:00 – Betting on the Podium: Who Called It Right?The hosts break down their pre-race picks and how the stormy day reshaped the results.02:30 – Eli’s Journey: From Biology Professor to Running ProHow Eli went from teaching science to managing Salt Lake Running Company — and why it changed his life.04:45 – Why He Signed Up Last Minute for DC Peaks 50What pushed Eli to finally register just two weeks before race day.06:15 – Race Day Chaos: The Storm, the Course, and Staying AliveHow he planned his splits in the middle of unpredictable weather.08:00 – The Turning Point: When Eli Took the LeadA deep dive into his mid-race battle with Matt — and how a caffeine gel and rain jacket swap changed everything.12:20 – The Chase: Passing Matt and Building the GapEli explains exactly where and how he made his move through North Canyon’s smooth trails.15:10 – The Muddy Showdown at SummerwoodThe out-and-back moment that sealed the win — and what it’s like seeing your competition mid-race.18:00 – The Wild Finish Line CelebrationInside Eli’s “home run” finish and what made this stormy race so unforgettable.19:10 – Race Weekend Decisions: Saturday or Sunday?Eli breaks down how runners voted and why he preferred running through the rain.21:30 – Battling the Weather: Wind, Rain, and Survival ModeRunning through freezing wind, soaked trails, and mental toughness at its peak.25:00 – Shoe Talk: What Carried Him to VictoryThe surprising shoe choice that helped him win — and a mini gear chat with Jake & Mick.29:00 – Inside the Salt Lake “JV Team”Meet the crew behind Utah’s rising trail runners — and the inside jokes that power them.30:00 – Bear 100: Redemption Story in the MakingEli’s unfinished business at Bear 100 and how he plans to come back stronger.33:00 – Taper Tips & Pre-Race MindsetEli’s philosophy on tapering, training, and keeping your legs fresh.39:00 – Future Goals & Marathon SpeedFrom a 2:31 marathon to mountain ultras — what’s next for Eli White.41:00 – Closing Thoughts: Lessons from the StormThe mindset, preparation, and grit behind one of the gnarliest DC Peaks finishes ever.

🏔️ “I didn’t even know I won until I sat down.”In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we sit down with Ashley Moline, the women’s DC Peaks 50 champion, to relive the storm, mud, lightning, and chaos that defined this year’s race.Ashley shares how she outlasted freezing rain, thunder, and slippery descents to not only finish — but beat her time from last year and take 1st place overall female. From mental grit to gear hacks, this episode dives deep into what it takes to stay composed (and warm) when everything around you is falling apart.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome to the Next Aid StationMeet Wisconsin native and DC Peaks 50 winner, Ashley Moline01:00 – Cold Hands, Warm Heart (and a Bear Tag?)Ashley’s family crew, hand warmers, and the hilarious “bear tag” misunderstanding02:10 – Beating Her Time Despite a StormHow Ashley ran faster than last year — even with a new, wetter course03:30 – Running Through Shin-Deep MudAt what point do you stop avoiding puddles? (Hint: 35 miles in)05:10 – Staying Warm While Everyone Else FrozeHand warmers, glove swaps, and the gear choices that saved her race08:00 – “Wait… I’m in First?”Ashley realizes mid-race she might actually be winning11:00 – Crossing the Finish Line Without Knowing She WonHer shock at finding out she took first place overall female14:15 – Why She Had to FinishThe powerful mental drive behind her “A race” of the year15:40 – Choosing to Race in the StormAshley picked Saturday — and embraced the chaos16:45 – From 55K to 50 Miles to… 100?Will she take on the Bear 100 next?20:00 – How Coaching Changed Her RunningTraining smarter (not harder) and becoming a coach herself24:00 – From Wisconsin to UtahWhy she stayed after PT school and found her mountain home25:40 – Behind the Scenes of the DC Peaks StormRace directors discuss reroutes, safety calls, and chaos management27:00 – Lightning, Thunder & Laughing Through ItWhat it’s like running under a storm that lights up the whole sky31:00 – How She’d Improve the RaceHer feedback on course markings and the volunteer experience32:00 – Why the Volunteers Deserve a MedalShoutout to the real heroes who stood in the cold for hours34:00 – Will the Race Date Move Next Year?The team debates running before or after Bear 10041:30 – What’s Next for Ashley MolineBear 100, recovery, and her next mountain adventureWhat you’ll hear: • How Ashley conquered the storm everyone feared • The mental shift from third place to first overall • Her training and coaching philosophy for ultrarunners • Hilarious race-day stories (bear tags, lightning, and mud baths) • Inside look at how the DC Peaks team managed chaos mid-stormIf you’re an ultrarunner, endurance athlete, or just love stories of grit, humor, and community — this one’s for you.💬 Drop a comment with your favorite moment or storm story.📲 Subscribe for more epic race recaps & ultrarunning interviews.🎧 Listen to The Next Aid Station on Spotify & Apple Podcasts.Keywords:DC Peaks 50, ultramarathon, trail running podcast, storm race, women’s ultrarunning, DC Peaks recap, Ashley Moline, ultra runner interview, endurance athlete mindset, Bear 100 training

The 2025 DC Peaks 50 was one for the history books — the wettest race day in Utah since 1901.Jake and Mick break down the chaos, heartbreak, and triumph from the most brutal DC Peaks ever. From record-breaking rain to hypothermic runners, course controversies, and behind-the-scenes decisions that saved the race — this episode is a raw, hilarious, and brutally honest look inside what really happens when nature decides to fight back.🌧️ Topics include: • Record-setting rain & race-day chaos • The DNF and aid station controversy • Emotional behind-the-scenes race directing • What went wrong, what went right, and what’s changing next year • How the community came together through absolute madnessTIMESTAMPS:00:00 – The Storm of the Century: DC Peaks Recap Begins01:05 – “I’d rather run it than race direct” – The chaos behind the scenes03:00 – Record-breaking rain: The wettest day in Salt Lake since 190104:08 – Finally! The best-marked course ever (after last year’s bib disaster)05:14 – Runners getting lost, DNF stories, and hypothermic drops06:16 – Stats that shocked everyone: Record signups & finish rates08:07 – Would anyone have finished a 100-miler in that weather?09:34 – Battle cries in the storm: “Bring it!” moments on course10:10 – Scott’s DNF story: freezing, shaking, and choosing to call it12:09 – Aid station chaos and family takeover at Zig Zag13:33 – Parking nightmares and single-lane gridlock stories15:16 – Crew access debate: Should races go full UTMB-style?17:56 – Keeping the community vibe alive—without the red tape20:01 – Weather gone wild: 2025 joins the list of ultra races from hell22:08 – Elite interviews coming soon (Eli White & Ashley Molina)23:41 – Course controversy: Runners skipping aid stations26:06 – The DQ debate: When skipping an aid station meets survival mode30:15 – Chaos at the finish line: hypothermia, missed podium photos, and soup triage35:28 – The “Master Debate”: Should we have moved race day to Sunday?37:09 – Why the race stayed Saturday—and why that was the right call40:15 – The alternate course that humbled everyone42:02 – The angry runner dilemma: “This isn’t what I signed up for!”43:20 – Ultra culture check: Adapting when things go wrong44:00 – Refunds, reroutes, and why race directing doesn’t pay45:29 – What people don’t understand about small races46:07 – Why the OG course would’ve been dangerous48:12 – Volunteers, lightning, and near whiteout conditions49:36 – The new idea: Spring DC Peaks on the alternate route51:29 – Could we add a second race every year?55:40 – Top 10 rapid-fire questions for 2025 recap56:24 – The biggest improvement from last year’s race58:57 – Best decisions, worst calls, and mid-race audibles1:04:10 – Hand warmers, towels, and hypothermia lessons learned1:09:04 – Biggest disappointments: Entitled runners & weather whiners1:13:01 – Should DC Peaks move to September? The great debate1:17:00 – Owning October: Why the first weekend is part of the brand1:21:00 – The Barkley comparison: Loving the suffering (or not)1:25:03 – If we could do it over again…1:29:59 – The oldest finisher: The toughest woman on the mountain1:31:29 – Changes for 2026: Gear checks, rules, and new course ideas1:34:13 – Could DC Peaks add a marathon or a 100-miler?1:38:18 – Volunteers who went above and beyond1:41:15 – Final thoughts: gratitude, recovery, and what’s next👇 Subscribe for more raw trail stories, ultra recaps, and behind-the-scenes looks into the sport.#trailrunning #ultrarunning #DCPeaks50 #trailracing #runningpodcast #ultramarathon #mountainrunning #racefail #raceprep #rainraces #runcommunity

In this episode, Jake and Mick sit down with Sarah Humble, fresh off her wins at the White Pine 50 and Bear 100. Sarah shares her journey from high school cross-country to dominating ultramarathons, how quitting her job led to a breakthrough summer of training in Europe, and what it really takes to race at the highest level.We also dive into: • The Appalachian Trail FKT controversy and fairness in records • Katie Schide vs. Courtney Dauwalter – who’s the true GOAT? • Mammoth 200 recap, Fantasy Trail Running, and Jim Walmsley’s dominance • DC Peaks 50 predictions (men’s and women’s race previews!) • Sarah’s mindset and strategy that led to her 21-hour Bear 100 win • What’s next: preparing for the Black Canyon 100K🔥 Whether you’re a trail runner, ultrarunning fan, or just love stories of grit and endurance, this episode delivers hot takes, deep insights, and plenty of laughs.TIMESTAMPS:00:00 – Opening Banter & Predictions00:36 – Introducing Sarah Humble: White Pine & Bear 100 Champion02:09 – Stories from Racing Against Sarah04:07 – Dropping Poles & Racing Strategy05:22 – Sarah Quits Job for Running + Summer in Europe07:07 – Swiss Canyon Trail & Competing Internationally07:53 – High School Running Background & Lessons Learned09:18 – From Average 5K to Ultramarathon Beast11:17 – Pre-Race Talk: Dixie Pigs, Mammoth, & Bear 10012:15 – Appalachian Trail FKT Controversy14:21 – Debating Trans Inclusion in FKTs18:49 – Sarah’s 21-Hour Bear 100 Victory Story21:04 – Hot Takes on Records & Recognition23:17 – Katie Schide vs. Courtney Dauwalter – Who’s the GOAT?25:36 – Kilian Jornet, Jim Walmsley & Trail Running Legends27:20 – Fantasy Trail Running & Mammoth 200 Results33:13 – Behind the Scenes of Mammoth 200: Pacing & Mind Games36:20 – Sarah’s Race Strategy at Bear 10038:01 – Battling Competitors in the Final Miles41:28 – Women’s-Only Broadcast Debate in Trail Running43:55 – Livestreams, Commentary & Growing the Sport47:14 – What It Takes to Run a Race Livestream55:55 – Previewing DC Peaks 50: Weather Worries59:16 – Women’s Race Preview – Sydney Park, Natalie Nicholson, Astrid Lindgren01:07:08 – Podium Predictions for the Women’s 50-Miler01:17:08 – Men’s Race Preview – Hammond, White, Gonzalez, Robinson01:27:08 – Men’s Podium Predictions & Times01:32:30 – Could a Woman Podium Overall?01:37:07 – Grant Running for Jarrett: Racing for a Cause01:39:51 – Sarah’s Next Big Race: Black Canyon 100K01:40:56 – Closing Thoughts & Sign-Off👉 If you enjoy this, subscribe to the channel, drop a comment, and share with your running crew!🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6kACcBFHv166q1Csg07CTB?si=LUFiKQRVQ5m5n5ewy7KswA#TrailRunning #Ultrarunning #Bear100 #DCpeaks #SarahHumble #BlackCanyon100K #NextAidStation

🚨 Race Week is Here! 🚨The ultimate pre-race briefing for the DC Peaks ultramarathon is LIVE. Race directors Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison break down everything you need to know before race day: weather plans, course updates, drop bag rules, aid station food, cutoffs, shuttles, and more.Whether you’re running the 25K, 55K, or 50 Mile, this is your complete guide to staying prepared and having the best race possible.In this episode:✅ Weather plans (Plan A, B & C)✅ Packet pickup info & location✅ Drop bag details (and how to keep them dry)✅ Course markings & GPS files✅ Aid station nutrition (yes, there’s pizza & pancakes!)✅ Early start, pacers, and shuttles✅ Finish line party: food, music, swag & recoveryWe also share community stories, race dedications, and a special fundraiser for Jared, a 6-year-old battling cancer.https://hopecam.networkforgood.com/projects/258982-grant-milch-50-miler-for-hopecam👉 Don’t forget: • Subscribe to this channel for more race updates & trail running content • Hit like & share this with your crew • Follow us on Instagram for live race-day updates • Listen on Spotify for the full podcast experience

Jake and Mick dive into ultrarunning chaos in this episode, recapping the Mammoth Trail Fest and previewing the Bear 100 showdown between Zach Garner and Chepé, while also tackling hot topics like Karl Malone’s resurfaced scandal, doping debates, and cancel culture in sports. They break down training for DC Peaks and 200-mile races, the viral Karl Malone TikTok that lit up social media, and drama from the Track & Field Worlds, including Sydney McLaughlin’s dominance and Cole Hocker’s wild DQ-to-victory story. The conversation shifts to Mammoth Trail Fest highlights, Coleman Craigin’s breakout performance, prize money debates, and UTMB’s growing influence before heading into bold predictions for the Bear 100, the Sarah-dominated women’s field, and a Worlds preview featuring Caleb Olson, Jim Walmsley, and Francesco Puppi. The episode wraps up with fueling mistakes, listener shoutouts, and plenty of laughs.Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: Disney trip, kombucha, & chaos 😂01:00 – Welcome back! Jake, Mick & Scott kick things off02:00 – Training fatigue & DC Peaks prep 🏔️04:30 – Strides, cross-country advice & Christian Allen shoutout06:30 – Back-to-back marathons & Strava dark mode07:30 – NBA tangent: Karl Malone scandal resurfaces12:00 – Wild debate: age gaps, teachers, & “Romeo & Juliet laws”15:00 – Karl Malone lawsuit, child support & out-of-court settlement 😳20:00 – Viral TikTok video: “He needs to be under the jail”22:00 – Cancel culture, Jimmy Kimmel & politics in sports26:00 – DOJ conspiracies, text messages & true crime vibes29:30 – Track & Field Worlds: Sydney McLaughlin & juiced East Germans 🏃‍♀️33:00 – Bruce Jenner comparisons & doping in the 80s37:00 – Cole Hocker DQ drama + insane comeback 🏆39:30 – Finally: Mammoth Trail Fest recap & growth42:00 – Tim Tollefson, Hillary Allen & Mammoth 200 launch45:30 – Coleman Craigin breakout & Hoka sponsorship predictions50:00 – Kodiak as a UTMB Major: auto entries explained55:00 – Mammoth 200: low turnout & timing issues58:00 – Prize money, live stream & hype for 2025 💰01:06:00 – Fantasy Free Trail picks: Jimmy Elam, Max Joseph & more01:10:00 – Women’s showdown: Tara Dower vs Rachel Drake 🔥01:16:00 – Training mistakes: 21 miles, no water, no pack 😅01:20:00 – Airbnb drama & race logistics01:25:00 – Bear 100 preview: Zach Garner vs Chappie showdown 🐻01:30:00 – The “Sarah takeover”: 5 out of 6 female winners named Sarah01:35:00 – Can Chepe pull off the Wasatch/Bear double?01:40:00 – Zach Garner’s course record & expectations01:46:00 – Worlds preview: Caleb Olson, Jim Walmsley & Francesco Puppi 🌍01:53:00 – Fueling mistakes, mental toughness & “Mamba mentality”01:57:00 – Fantasy Free Trail: short & long trail picks02:01:00 – Listener shoutouts: Irish D, Rush Limbaugh vibes & Mediocre Amateur fans02:05:00 – Wrap-up: DC Peaks next week!👉 Don’t miss weekly trail & ultra chaos — hit SUBSCRIBE!👥 Share this with your running crew!Keywords (SEO): Mammoth Trail Fest 2025, Mammoth 200 recap, Bear 100 preview, Zach Garner ultrarunning, Chappie Bear 100, Karl Malone scandal 2025, UTMB 2025 major, Coleman Craigin Hoka, Francesco Puppi Worlds, Caleb Olson trail running, Jim Walmsley Worlds

Jake, Mick, and special guest Danny Bryson (Mediocre Amateur) dive into ultrarunning chaos in this episode, mixing race recaps with wild tangents and big debates. They break down Jesse Rich’s breakout Run Rabbit Run win 🏔️, Danny’s hilarious stories of Survivor auditions, Shark Tank near-misses, and even prison, plus the origins of Mediocre Amateur and his terrifying climb of the Matterhorn. The crew discusses the National Park crackdown on FKTs and illegal filming rules, why Kilimanjaro and the Seven Summits might be overrated, and the insanity of the TOR des Géants: 200 miles and 80k of vert with no sleep. They also touch on Kilian Jornet’s ambitious new FKT project, the absurd Guinness LEGO run 😂, and dive deep into Joyline’s doping scandal and the PED debate in ultras 🚨, before wrapping with an I’m Tough 100 preview and listener Q&A.Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: signing up for Wasatch 100 with zero trail shoes 😅00:20 – Welcome back! Danny Bryson joins the pod 🎙️02:00 – Survivor auditions, Shark Tank near-miss & prison stories06:30 – “Mr. Almost”: the royalty of near misses09:30 – Jesse Rich’s breakout win at Run Rabbit Run 🏔️11:00 – The mystery of the “six-seven” chant12:30 – Brutal training runs with future champions14:00 – Jesse Rich: coach, nutritionist & DC Peaks finish line guest16:30 – Mediocre Amateur origins: from failed TV show to YouTube success19:30 – Climbing Matterhorn & terrifying GoPro footage 🧗‍♂️22:30 – National Park rules, illegal FKTs & filming crackdowns26:00 – Kilimanjaro letdowns & why Seven Summits isn’t worth it30:00 – Life behind Mediocre Amateur: ranch work, plumbing & YouTube grind33:00 – Tour du Mont Blanc fastpack disaster (locked huts, 50-mile day)34:00 – Wild news tangent: Utah political protester & “pants down” arrests 😳39:00 – Oracle’s Larry Ellison makes $100B in a single day 💰41:00 – Would you go to Mars if Elon made it possible? 🚀47:00 – Joyline’s doping scandal & Salomon fallout 🚨52:00 – Should ultras allow doping? The “Dope Olympics” debate57:00 – TOR des Géants recap: 200 miles, 80k vert, no sleep01:03:00 – Nepali runner does 435 miles, then TOR a week later 🤯01:05:00 – Mileage vs vert: what really breaks runners?01:09:00 – Kilian Jornet’s insane new FKT project01:13:00 – Guinness World Record: barefoot 100m over LEGOs 😂01:15:00 – YouTube craft: music choices, editing & standing out01:17:30 – I’m Tough 100 recap & listener question shoutout01:21:00 – AI audiobook hack: turning podcast audio into narration 🎧01:27:00 – Race preview: Carl Meltzer, Trevor Fuchs & I’m Tough lineup01:30:00 – Long unsupported stretches & survival tips for McCall, Idaho01:34:00 – Wrapping up with laughs, comments & shoutouts ❤️

🔥 Doping scandals, $800M lottery dreams, and trail running chaos. This week’s episode of The Next Aid Station is as wild as it gets.Jake and Mick break down the Wasatch 100 and its biggest performances 🏔️ before diving into Joyline’s doping scandal and Salomon’s response 🚨, plus a wider conversation on Lance Armstrong, Nike, and the doping debate in endurance sports. We also break down McAleenan Sunseri’s illegal FKT case and the Department of Justice’s surprising involvement 🏛️, then look ahead with a Run Rabbit Run 2025 preview featuring Arlen Glick, Matt Daniels, Riley Brady, and more. The crew debates trail running prize money, UTMB vs. U.S. races, and whether iconic courses should be reversed, while also laughing through the latest Guinness World Record chaos — a 100m dash barefoot over LEGOs 😂. To wrap it up, we share listener shoutouts, discuss Candace Burt’s business model, and swap stories about Mediocre Amateur. 👉 If you love trail running, ultras, or just hilarious tangents, this is the pod for you.00:00 – Opening hot take: storms at UTMB vs Kaysville00:22 – Welcome back + Wasatch 100 pacing recap 🏔️05:00 – The King of Wasatch: Hosie Cruz’s 5th podium06:00 – Isabella shocks the field in her 100-mile debut07:30 – Why the new Wasatch course is tougher than ever09:00 – Historic times, trail changes & the “chin scraper” debate11:30 – Lead pack drama: drops, surges & surprise moves12:50 – Women’s race recap + sub-24 milestone 💪15:00 – Wild pacing stories & racing with legends16:15 – WNBA Finals, Kawhi Leonard’s $28M no-show deal 🏀20:00 – NBA salary cap loopholes & load management21:40 – Joel Embiid + Zion talk → are stars “bums”?23:20 – Powerball chaos: scam ticket sales & lottery dreams 💰27:00 – What would you buy first with $800M? (pirate trails, jets & cribs)30:00 – $100 steaks, potatoes & billionaire splurges32:00 – Would you blow your winnings or stay frugal?35:00 – Trail running = $20B global industry 🌍37:00 – Road running vs trail running economics38:00 – Announcing: The Running Event in San Antonio 🎤39:00 – The “Diversity Run” controversy & hot takes 🏃‍♂️45:00 – Guinness World Record: barefoot 100m over LEGOs 😂53:00 – Could Mick break it? New Guinness record ideas56:20 – Breaking news: Joyline doping scandal & Salomon fallout 🚨01:05:00 – Lance Armstrong, Nike & doping in endurance sports01:10:00 – Should doping just be legal in ultras?01:17:00 – McAleenan Sunseri’s illegal FKT & DOJ prosecution 🏛️01:23:00 – DOJ overreach, government waste & frustration01:26:00 – KSL news rants & media distrust 📺01:31:00 – Run Rabbit Run preview: men’s field analysis 🏃‍♂️01:45:00 – Women’s preview: Riley Brady, Ashley Paulson & more01:46:00 – Prize money in ultras: will it ever matter?01:54:00 – Should Wasatch or DC Peaks run in reverse? 🔄01:56:00 – Listener comments: Aussies, Kiwis & rude Americans02:00:00 – Moab 240 business model controversy 💸02:04:00 – Candace Burt email response & “closing the loop”02:13:00 – Mediocre Amateur shoutout + Matterhorn climb02:14:00 – Wrap-up: headed to Vegas (Magic Mick style) 🎰📺 Subscribe on YouTube for weekly trail running chaos👥 Share this with your running crew!

In this episode, we dive into Christian Allen’s viral Nike photoshoot and ACG trail sponsorship, his training blocks in Chamonix that included over 100 miles and 23,000 feet of vert, and a breakdown of Cam Hanes’ Broken film and the Cocadona 250. We recap the action from UTMB and OCC, including Jim Walmsley’s frustrations with aid stations, Adam Peterman’s inspiring comeback, and Courtney Dauwalter’s struggles, before shifting to the global stage with the rise of Kenyan and Chinese ultrarunners and what it means for the future of the sport. We also look ahead with a Western States 2025 preview featuring Francesco Puppi, Hayden Hawks, Caleb, and Jim, plus a Wasatch 100 preview and the drama around Zach Garner’s volunteer hours controversy. The episode closes on a lighter note with the funniest listener shoutouts, stories of ping pong battles with Chinese executives, and even a wild Lamborghini dinner invite.
Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: mullets, wigs & Christian’s legendary hair00:24 – Welcome back + intros with Christian Allen02:00 – Nike sponsorship story & viral photoshoot 📸05:30 – Nike Trail merges with ACG: what it means for athletes06:45 – Training in Chamonix: 100 miles, 23,000 ft vert 🏔️08:15 – Wasatch 100 course signs & trail marking chaos12:00 – Cam Hanes’ Broken film & Coca-Dona 250 talk 🎥13:35 – Three-day fasting + hallucinations while racing?!14:30 – Christian’s USA gear giveaway + visor comeback 🧢16:20 – Social media & sponsorship pressures for runners18:00 – Nike’s ACG strategy explained: future of trail gear22:00 – Gear talk: radical airflow shirt & prototypes 👕25:00 – Sydney Marathon recap & Kipchoge running 2:08 at age 4028:00 – Christian’s marathon goals: CIM, Boston & chasing 2:0729:35 – Connor Mance’s American record & shoe tech debates34:00 – BYU, Weber State & coaching legends 🏃‍♂️43:10 – UTMB/CCC review: Christian’s racing + nausea struggles46:00 – Fueling failures, nausea & the Zofran experiment47:55 – Jim Walmsley’s critical UTMB interview 🎤50:00 – Aid station chaos at OCC & live race drama53:15 – Adam Peterman’s comeback + rising stars54:30 – Canadian Sam Hendry’s breakout performance 🇨🇦56:00 – Christian’s plans for sub-4 50K & Golden Trail Finals57:15 – UTMB lottery, stones system & booking the chalet 🏔️01:00:00 – UTMB dream crew planning (and French language struggles)01:01:30 – Western States preview: Francesco Puppi, Hayden Hawks & Drew Holmen01:05:00 – Caleb, Jim & Americans lining up for Western 202501:07:15 – Women’s UTMB: epic finish + tactical battles01:09:00 – Kenyan & Chinese runners storming the scene 🌍01:15:00 – French miss the podium + global shift in ultrarunning01:16:00 – Courtney Dauwalter’s struggles: injury or weather?01:20:00 – Debate: Triple Crown vs winning UTMB multiple times01:25:00 – VK races, Mount Marathon & hardest 5K in the world01:28:00 – Top storylines from UTMB week (panel’s podium picks)01:33:00 – Nike vs Nation: sponsorship vs country pride 🇺🇸👟01:46:00 – Doping, money & the future of the sport 💰01:47:00 – Wasatch 100 preview + Zach Garner volunteer hours drama01:52:00 – Top men’s & women’s contenders for Wasatch02:04:00 – Listener shoutouts & Strava comments ❤️02:08:00 – Chinese business meeting → ping pong & Lamborghini invite 🏓🚗02:09:50 – Wrap-up & thanks to Christian Allen

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🔥 The ultimate UTMB 2025 preview + trail running chaos! 🔥In this jam-packed episode of The Next Aid Station, Jake and Mick break down their bold UTMB 2025 predictions, asking whether Hayden Hawks or any American can finally topple the French. They share their Fantasy Free Trail top-10 picks for both the men’s and women’s races, unpack the wild story of the $3.7M Miami Heat jersey theft, and pitch a high-stakes runner vs. mountain biker 50-mile showdown. The conversation also dives into Joe Korsmo’s Broken at 300 documentary, with reflections on why DNFs matter, and explores Tom Evans’ perspective on fatherhood vs. athletic greatness. Beyond the racing world, they debate whether shorter trail races could one day surpass 100-milers in popularity, before closing with listener shoutouts, hilarious fan messages, and a look ahead to exciting upcoming guests.

Timestamps:00:00 – Will the French sweep the UTMB podium? 🇫🇷00:24 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station 🎙️01:12 – UTMB vs Western States: which is bigger?03:20 – The time zone problem for American fans ⏰04:05 – Fantasy Free Trail picks revealed05:46 – Inside jokes & the “six-seven” chant 😂07:07 – Miami Heat security guard scandal: $3.7M jersey theft 🏀09:26 – LeBron’s stolen Finals jersey sold for $100K12:30 – Prison time for a cop turned thief 🚔14:12 – Most valuable jerseys in sports history15:29 – Listener DM: “You guys are God’s silliest gooses” 🪿18:00 – Convincing your spouse to let you race (the eternal struggle)20:39 – Hobby wars: golf guy vs ultra guy vs cyclist guy23:12 – Jake challenged to finally run DC Peaks 50 🏔️24:03 – Runner vs mountain biker showdown idea 🚴‍♂️🏃‍♂️29:09 – Stakes: a Bear 100 entry on the line 🐻30:36 – Plans to livestream the man vs bike race33:57 – Joe Korsmo’s Broken at 300 documentary review 🎥35:27 – Why sharing DNFs matters in ultrarunning38:00 – Tom Evans: “I’d rather be the best dad than the best athlete” 👨‍👧40:02 – Can you be both a world-class runner and a great parent?45:22 – Will anything ever challenge UTMB’s dominance?48:21 – Could shorter trail races surpass ultras in popularity?50:57 – UTMB’s tradition vs the Super Bowl model 🏟️56:01 – Plans for The Next Aid Station to go global 🌍58:09 – UTMB women’s top-10 picks (Courtney, Katie, Abby & more)01:07:08 – Men’s picks: Americans vs French showdown01:20:00 – Can Hayden Hawks deliver America a UTMB win? 🇺🇸01:28:05 – French dominance and the “all-French podium” nightmare01:39:00 – Ping pong showdown with a Chinese businessman 🏓01:44:23 – Hardrock’s lottery system explained01:47:04 – Odds of a French-free podium at UTMB01:52:09 – Trail running in Japan? Mount Fuji dreams 🇯🇵01:52:29 – Listener comments & community shoutouts ❤️01:56:16 – Mediocre Amateur guest announcement01:59:51 – Final fan messages + hilarious age banter02:00:48 – Next week: Christian Allen live in the studio 🎉👉 If you love trail running, ultras, or just good storytelling, this is the episode for you.

🔥 Trail running gets wild in this episode of The Next Aid Station! 🔥From White Pine 50 race stories to the UTMB preview and even a Krispy Kreme–fueled 50 miler, Jake, Mick, and special guest Zach (@trailswithzach) deliver a mix of comedy, controversy, and real talk about ultrarunning.Timestamps:00:00 – Race drama recap & “offended race directors”00:45 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station + introducing Zach (@trailswithzach)01:15 – White Pine 50 finish line showdown (with a 72-year-old legend)02:40 – Mick “wins” the women’s 60–69 division 😂03:30 – Why “67” is cooler than “69” for Gen Z05:20 – Kings Peak in 6 hours & viral YouTube video06:30 – FaceTiming from the summit & trail “tandem dump” bonding 🤝07:55 – Zach’s first ultra (DC Peaks 50) & sub-9hr goals09:20 – Rice Krispies + applesauce fueling strategy at Bear 10011:00 – White Pine 50 recap: Sarah Humble wins overall!13:00 – “Guy on the Left” turns into a race celebrity14:20 – Course marking challenges & cows eating flags 🐄15:45 – Confessions: cutting the course & whistleblower jokes18:00 – Trekking pole fail: ditching them before the big climb20:30 – Vermont Long Trail FKT: 272 miles in 3.5 days22:00 – Timpanogos FKT debate (Zach vs. Carl Meltzer)24:00 – Christian Allen’s Nike pic & running gossip25:45 – Viral moment: college runner’s “wardrobe malfunction” 😳28:00 – More Long Trail suffering & mental breakdowns30:00 – Zach’s video style & recognition on the trails31:00 – New format: “Chef Zach” + grasshopper protein bars 🦗34:00 – Working with Chela & YouTube growth strategy36:00 – Censorship in China: losing 30M subscribers overnight38:30 – Heading to Canada with Mediocre Amateur40:30 – Running 50 miles on Krispy Kreme donuts 🍩43:30 – Chela insoles & Anthony Costales comeback45:00 – Leadville recap: David Roche’s course record49:00 – Why ultras need better livestreaming (and why Leadville missed out)52:30 – Destination Trails controversy & being “shunned”58:00 – Free speech, blocking, & race politics in ultrarunning01:03:30 – Reflecting on Tahoe 200 & race director conflicts01:05:30 – Camille Herron’s hilarious basketball videos01:07:15 – UTMB preview: American contenders vs Europeans01:10:30 – Francesco Puppi, Eli Hemming & podium picks01:16:00 – Jim Walmsley’s emotional UTMB breakthrough ❤️01:17:30 – Dreaming of racing UTMB someday01:20:00 – Future of ultra livestreaming: heart rate, glucose, wearables01:25:00 – Strava dark mode & hiding workouts01:27:00 – Funniest listener comments & fan moments01:32:00 – Wrapping up with laughs & gratitudeThis episode is packed with laughs, behind-the-scenes stories, and big-picture insights into the sport we love.👉 If you’re into trail running, ultras, or just good banter, hit SUBSCRIBE for more!

🏆 Fresh off a Bigfoot 200 win, Killian Korth joins us in-studio for a deep dive into his race strategy, aid station efficiency, and how he plans to sweep the Triple Crown with a Moab 240 victory.We also debate Leadville predictions (Cam Hanes vs. Truett Haines), discuss the David Roche Western States DNF, and talk training for Moab’s long flat sections.

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