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The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Jennie Johnson & Dianne Hartshorn

261 episodes

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Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when medical progress clashes with public outrage? Body snatching, bloodletting, and a riot that shook America's founding fathers: join Jennie and Dianne on this latest episode of The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery as they chat with writer Andy McPhee about his latest book "The Doctors' Riot of 1788". But the story starts earlier - at The African Burial Ground, where New York Ci...

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Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when medical progress clashes with public outrage? Body snatching, bloodletting, and a riot that shook America's founding fathers: join Jennie and Dianne on this latest episode of The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery as they chat with writer Andy McPhee about his latest book "The Doctors' Riot of 1788". But the story starts earlier - at The African Burial Ground, where New York Ci...

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Episodes (20/261)

The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Episode 262 - The Doctors' Riot of 1788: A Conversation with Writer Andy McPhee

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when medical progress clashes with public outrage? Body snatching, bloodletting, and a riot that shook America's founding fathers: join Jennie and Dianne on this latest episode of The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery as they chat with writer Andy McPhee about his latest book "The Doctors' Riot of 1788". But the story starts earlier - at The African Burial Ground, where New York Ci...

2 days ago

1 hour 3 minutes

The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Episode 261 - The Wondrous Mrs. Claus with Pamela McColl

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Kick off the new year with The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery podcast! Join Jennie and Dianne for a delightful chat with Pamela McColl, author of "Wondrous Mrs. Claus: a Literary and Pictorial Review of the Christmas Character". As we bid farewell to 2025, let's take a moment to appreciate a true unsung hero of the holiday season, Mrs. Claus! Join us as we celebrate the woman behind the man...

1 week ago

1 hour 12 minutes

The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Episode 260 - Candlelight and Liberty

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. “Hanukkah is about the freedom to be true to what we believe without denying the freedom of those who believe otherwise. It’s about lighting our candle, while not being threatened by or threatening anyone else’s candle.” Rabbi Jonathan Sacks z”l -- This week Jennie and Dianne invite everyone to cozy up with a cup of latke-friendly brew and join them as they revisit their first ever Hanukkah e...

3 weeks ago

40 minutes

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Episode 259 - The Santa Colonel: 70 Years of Christmas Magic

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. This week Dianne and Jennie are getting into the holiday spirit with the heartwarming story of Colonel Harry Shoup, the Air Force officer who answered a mistaken phone call from a little girl looking for Santa. His kindness sparked a tradition that's tracked Santa for 70 years! Ever wondered how NORAD got involved? Tune in to hear the Ordinary Extraordinary, magical Christmas tale! Episode av...

1 month ago

44 minutes

The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Episode 258 - Around the Table: Preserving Family Stories

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. This week on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery, Jennie and Dianne remind listeners the holidays are the perfect time to gather 'round the dinner table and record the tales of grandparents, great-grandparents, aunts, uncles, and other family members. Whether you're a seasoned genealogist or just starting to explore your family's history, this episode includes tips and tricks for getting star...

1 month ago

39 minutes

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Episode 257 - Cemeteries as Catalysts for Alternate Histories

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Get ready to dig into the fascinating world of alternate histories! On this week's Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery Podcast, Jennie and Dianne welcome back Research Historian Lynette Webber to explore how cemeteries can inspire and provoke our understanding of time and mortality. Just like George Bailey's poignant "what ifs" in It's a Wonderful Life or Marty McFly's wild rides through the Back...

1 month ago

57 minutes

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Episode 256 - Death and Dying 101 with Ryan Seidemann Round 5

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. It's time for a new addition of Death and Dying 101. Join Jennie and Dianne, along with regular contributor Ryan Seidemann, as they dig into the dirt on some heavy hitters: the environmental impact of cremation vs. full body burial, the tricky business of handling cemeteries discovered during construction projects, Civil War burials, and the fascinating world of bone identification. Grab your...

1 month ago

1 hour 9 minutes

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Episode 255 - The Stories of Lake View Cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Jennie and Dianne are thrilled to welcome Diana Kresnye, a passionate tour guide and historical interpreter at Lake View Cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio to the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast. Lake View Cemetery is a treasure trove of history, art, and nature, featuring a Level 2 Arboretum with thousands of trees, the final resting place of James A. Garfield (the 20th president of the Uni...

2 months ago

1 hour 5 minutes

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Episode 254 - Beyond the Grave: The Phantom of the Opera

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Join Jennie and Dianne for the 2025 "Beyond the Grave" episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery, just in time to put you in a spooky mood for Halloween! Dim the lights, get cozy, and immerse yourself in Gaston Leroux's timeless masterpiece. With a special introduction by legendary silent film actor Lon Chaney, you'll be transported to 1880s Paris and the majestic Palais Garnier. Settle ...

2 months ago

51 minutes

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Episode 253 - The Veiled Lady's Tale: Paranormal Perspectives with Nicole Beauchamp

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Get ready for a ghostly good time on this week's Ordinary Extraordinary podcast! Jennie and Dianne are joined by Nicole Beauchamp, author and paranormal researcher, to discuss the power of remembrance and the importance of preserving the Ordinary Extraordinary stories of the past. From the 'Veiled Woman' of Elmwood Cemetery to the value of visiting historic sites, Nicole shares her expertise ...

2 months ago

44 minutes

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Episode 252 - Cast in History: The Story of Vermont's Unique Grave Markers

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. On this episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery Podcast, Jennie and Dianne are joined by Miles McCallum and Nick Brown, researchers and enthusiasts passionate about uncovering the stories behind Vermont's historic cast-iron grave markers. Miles, an M.A. in history student at the University of Vermont, and his colleague Nick, share their fascinating findings on two models of cast-iron g...

2 months ago

51 minutes

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Episode 251 - Gaston LeRoux's Opera Phantom with Dr. Jerrold E. Hogle

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Get ready for a haunting tale of love, obsession, and music that echoes beyond the grave! Join Jennie and Dianne on this week's episode of The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast as they dive into the world of Gaston LeRoux's classic novel, The Phantom of the Opera, with special guest Professor Jerrold E. Hogle. This week’s episode is particularly special as it coincides with the sold-out...

3 months ago

1 hour 25 minutes

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Episode 250 - The Ordinary Extraordinary Truth About America's Deathcare

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Get ready to confront the uncomfortable truths about death and dying in America, and discover how we can work towards a more equitable system for all. This week on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast, Jennie and Dianne are joined by Staci Savattaro and Jennifer Wright-Berryman, co-authors of the upcoming book "Equity at the End: The New American Way of Death". From eco-friendly burial...

3 months ago

1 hour 27 minutes

The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Episode 249 - Death and Dying 101 with Ryan Seidemann Part 2 - Round 4

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when human remains are discovered in public spaces? Can pets be buried alongside their owners? And what's the protocol for handling human remains from space? Jennie and Dianne, along with Ryan Seidemann, tackle these tough questions and more on this week's Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast, part two of Death and Dying 101. Need an Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery Podcast tee...

3 months ago

46 minutes

The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Episode 248 - Death and Dying 101 with Ryan Seidemann Part 1 - Round 4

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when science and culture collide? Jennie and Dianne dive into the world of human remains with Ryan Seidemann in Part 1 of a new Death and Dying 101 feature. They discuss the challenges of creating inclusive public memory, the ethics of displaying mummified bodies, and the current state of body donation to science. From consent to cultural sensitivity, Ryan shares his expertise on...

4 months ago

50 minutes

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Episode 247 - Too Poor to Die: A Conversation with Amy Shea

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Join Jennie and Dianne on The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast as they welcome Amy Shea, author of the groundbreaking book 'Too Poor to Die: The Hidden Realities of Dying in the Margins.' Amy's work sheds light on the often-hidden truths of death and dying among those experiencing chronic homelessness or who end up indigent or unclaimed at the end of life. In this powerful conversation...

4 months ago

50 minutes

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Episode 246 - Around the World in 80 Graves: A Conversation with Tui Snider

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when you combine travel, history, and a dash of humor? You get 'Around the World in 80 Graves: Travel, Tombstones & Transformation', the new book from Tui Snider. Join Jennie and Dianne on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast as they chat with Tui about her adventures in cemeteries around the world. From the heart of Texas to the ancient tombs of Egypt, Tui's journeys ...

4 months ago

53 minutes

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Episode 245 - Beneath the Surface: A Surprising Cemetery Tale

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Not every public park is as it seems, and not every cemetery is for that matter either! This week on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast, Jennie and Dianne are joined by fellow taphophile Randy Crane as he shares the story of the life, death and reincarnation of side-by-side (Broadway and Mount Olive) cemeteries located in Whittier, California. Randy tells how the cemeteries began as ...

4 months ago

50 minutes

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Episode 244 - The Power of Storytelling: Preserving Our Histories with Stephanie Ford

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. What happens when we don't share our stories before we become inmates of the cemetery?? This week, The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast explores the importance of recording our histories with special guest Stephanie Ford. As a caregiver, Stephanie's heard countless tales of love, loss, and life from those who've lived through it all. She emphasizes the importance of learning from our e...

5 months ago

56 minutes

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Episode 243 - Haunted History: Exploring Virginia's Cemeteries with Sharon Pajka

Send us a text! We love hearing from listeners. If you'd like a response, please include your email. Get ready for a chilling conversation! Join Jennie and Dianne as they chat with author Sharon Pajka, PhD, about her new book "Haunted Virginia Cemeteries". As we creep into spooky season, Sharon guides us through the Old Dominion's most haunted burial grounds, from Arlington Cemetery's eerie atmosphere to the ghostly apparitions at Monticello. But don't let the paranormal tales fool you - thi...

5 months ago

59 minutes