An extra half hour of The Panel with Wallace Chapman, where to begin, he's joined by Nights host Emile Donovan. Then: Wallace chats to Paul Baragwanath, Director of the Kahui St David's Charitable Trust. St David's in Auckland's CBD was built in 1927 as a living memorial to veterans. The Kahui St David's Charitable Trust has managed to re-establish it as a hub for arts too - where it's hosted a full calendar of gigs and functions over the last few years. But creeping costs - including an annual insurance fee of 50 thousand bucks - are putting the building back on the brink. And we talk to some listeners who are practitioners of the ancient art of whitling.