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The Pastorate Podcast
The Pastorate
164 episodes
5 days ago
The Pastorate Podcast hosts thoughtful conversations with guests who are passionate about the Canadian church. Here to serve Canadian pastors, we dive into topics that speak to the heart, soul, and vision of the pastorate, all the while sharing stories from guests who minister in diverse church contexts.
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The Pastorate Podcast hosts thoughtful conversations with guests who are passionate about the Canadian church. Here to serve Canadian pastors, we dive into topics that speak to the heart, soul, and vision of the pastorate, all the while sharing stories from guests who minister in diverse church contexts.
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The Pastorate Podcast
Nestor Abdon on Multicultural Ministry in Canada, Welcoming Newcomers, and Second-Generation Immigrants as Cultural Bridges

Nestor Abdon is a Filipino-Canadian pastor serving as Global & Local Outreach Pastor at Bramalea Baptist Church in Brampton, Ontario. Having ministered among newcomers, refugees, and diaspora churches across Canada, Nestor carries a deep passion for hospitality, multicultural mission, and the vital contribution of diaspora communities to the life and future of the church in Canada.

In this conversation, Nestor traces his journey from growing up in the Philippines to arriving in Canada in 2010, pastoring within a Filipino church, serving at a refugee centre, and eventually leading newcomers and diaspora ministries at large churches in the Toronto area. His life and ministry have been shaped by the conviction that migration is not just a social reality but a biblical lens, that God is gathering the nations in Canadian cities, and that welcoming newcomers is central to the church’s participation in the gospel today.

Together, Nestor and Jason explore:

  • How Nestor’s own experience as a newcomer to Canada shaped his pastoral calling among immigrants, refugees, and international students,
  • Practical ways churches can embody hospitality, through ESL programs, settlement partnerships, shared meals, and newcomer fellowships,
  • The importance of a listening posture and intercultural competence in majority-culture churches, rather than rushing to fix problems without hearing people’s actual needs,
  • The unique role and strengths of diaspora and ethnic monocultural churches within the wider “gospel ecology” of Canadian cities,
  • How majority-culture churches can move diaspora leaders from the margins to the centre, offering real voice, leadership, and shared decision-making,
  • The tensions and possibilities of first and second generation dynamics, and why second-generation immigrants can serve as “cultural bridges” for the church,
  • What it means to contextualize the gospel across cultures and why diaspora Christians give Nestor deep hope for the future of the church in Canada.

Nestor speaks with warmth and a reflective wisdom formed in the overlap of the academy and local church. His story invites pastors to see their city as a global mission field, to make room for diaspora leaders at the table, and to embrace the beautiful, diverse foretaste of Revelation 7 that God is already bringing to life in Canada.

Show Notes

  • Nestor’s Book: Marginality of Visible Minorities in Canada
  • Jason Georges Book: The 3d Gospel
  • Bramlea Baptist Church
  • Give to The Pastorate’s Year End Campaign
  • Lead Pastor Fellowship Application
  • Emerging Leaders Lab Application

Partners

Contact John Wright at Generis for help cultivating a culture of generosity in your church.

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1 week ago
55 minutes 46 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Derrick Miller on Co-Vocational Calling, Merging with a 100-Year-Old Church, and Leading Through Change

In today’s episode, Derrick Miller invites us into the story of Makers Church in San Diego and the co-vocational calling that’s shaped his life as both pastor and firefighter. Derrick shares how a surprising “church marriage” with a 100-year-old congregation, neighborhood change, and a multi-million-dollar building renovation have forced him and his team to slow down, listen carefully to the Spirit, and rethink what sustainable leadership actually looks like. Along the way, he offers a lived picture of priesthood-of-all-believers, where every follower of Jesus is sent into their workplace, street, and city as a full participant in God’s mission.

In this conversation Jason and Derrick talk about:

  • The origin story of Makers Church and how Derrick’s firefighter calling shaped their co-vocational model,
  • How a young church plant “married” a 100-year-old congregation, and inherited a spiritual legacy, not just a building,
  • How neighbourhood change and selling church-owned homes opened the door for new mission and a major renovation,
  • The shift from pastor-led decisions to communal discernment, elder leadership, and governance that reflects real church life,
  • Why co-vocational ministry is about more than budgets and how it reframes staffing, power, and how we view congregants as sent ones,
  • Practical ways pastors can affirm everyday work as mission and equip people to live as the church where they live, work, and play.


Derrick offers a hopeful and grounded vision for pastors wrestling with limited resources, changing neighbourhoods, and questions about what’s next for their church. Whether you’re leading in a rented gym, renovating a century-old sanctuary, or simply tired of feeling like everything depends on you, may this conversation expand your imagination, ease some pressure, and help you see your people, and their everyday work, as central to the kingdom story God is writing in your city.


Show Notes

  • ⁠Makers Church – San Diego, CA⁠ 
  • ⁠Lead Pastor Fellowship Application⁠
  • ⁠Emerging Leaders Lab Application⁠


Partners

We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠⁠give⁠⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.

Contact ⁠John Wright at Generis⁠ for help cultivating a culture of generosity in your church.

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3 weeks ago
59 minutes 39 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Darrell Johnson on Preaching Advent: Six Frameworks to Borrow, and His New Book Awaken Wonder

In today’s episode, Darrell Johnson opens his journal and his toolkit, sharing how a hard year has softened his pastoral heart and how a simple morning liturgy that includes journaling, reading Scripture, and listing notes of gratitude have helped refresh his soul. Darrell invites us into his new book, an Advent reader titled Awaken Wonder, and shares six practical frameworks for preaching through Advent that he invites pastors to glean from and borrow. Darrell helps us imagine Advent preaching that’s both bold and deeply formative.


In this conversation Jason and Darrell talk about:

  • Darrell’s morning rhythm that sustains tender heartedness,
  • Why Christmas is history, not myth, along with a helpful guide to chronological reading of the Christmas story,
  • Darrell’s new book Awaken Wonder, and the four-week outline it provides for preaching Advent,
  • Practical help for solo pastors through six ready-to-preach Advent frameworks,
  • How to give ethical and freeing attribution when we use sources to inform our preaching.


Darrell offers us a timely invitation to preach Advent with clarity and courage, and a helpful roadmap that will help those who are still figuring out what


Show Notes

Darrell Johnson’s Website - https://www.darrelljohnson.ca

Order Awaken Wonder - https://a.co/d/fbKOL1u

Lead Pastor Fellowship Application - https://www.thepastorate.ca/lpf

Emerging Leaders Lab Application - https://www.thepastorate.ca/lab


Guest Biography

Darrell W. Johnson has been preaching Jesus Christ and His Gospel for over 50 years. He has served a number of Presbyterian congregations in California, Union Church of Manila in the Philippines, and the historic First Baptist Church in the heart of Vancouver, Canada. He has taught preaching for Fuller Theological Seminary, Carey Theological College in Vancouver, and Regent College in Vancouver. He has authored eight books, including The Glory of Preaching and Discipleship on the Edge: An Expository Journey Through Revelation. ‍He is currently serving as a pastor at The Way Church and The Pastorate Ministries Canada. ‍He and his wife Sharon have been married over 50 years. Together they have raised four children adopted from four different countries of the world, and now enjoy loving 11 active grandchildren.


Partners

Special thanks to Generis for helping us make this episode happen. Contact John Wright at Generis for help cultivating a culture of generosity in your church. - https://generis.com/team/jon-wright


The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. As we look to the future, would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or ⁠making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community⁠? - https://thepastorate.ca/give.

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1 month ago
56 minutes 14 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Junie Josue on Empowering a Young, Multicultural Church, Hearing God’s Call from Manila to Winnipeg, and Carrying a Vision to Plant 100 Churches Across Canada

On today’s episode of The Pastorate we welcome Junie Josue, pastor of International Worship Center, in Winnipeg, Manitoba. From a three-day fast in Manila to planting a multi-ethnic church in central Canada, Junie shares a Spirit-led story of obedience, discipleship, and multiplication. The conversation traces the discernment journey that brought Junie and his wife, Fatima, to Canada in 1999, the cell-church structure that fuels IWC’s inter-provincal growth, and a vision to plant 100 churches across the nation. Junie also opens up about the inner life of a pastor, moving from performance to presence, and letting God heal old wounds. 

Jason and Junie explore: 

  • How a season of prayer and fasting led to a call from God to plant a church in Winnipeg.
  • Why International Worship Center chose a cell-church architecture to disciple deeply and multiply churches.
  • Releasing real authority to the next generation and why reaching dominant Canada culture will be led by second generation immigrants to Canada.
  • Fostering a church culture where every site plants new sites, supported by ongoing coaching, care, and connection.
  • The strength of bi-vocational leadership: volunteers and part-time pastors who stay embedded among the lost.
  • The inner work of the pastor: healing from past wounds, resisting performative spirituality, and receiving God’s goodness before ministering it.

This conversation shares Junie’s story and invites pastors to receive God’s goodness in their own inner life while being attentive to the work of God in the lives of those they’ve been called to serve.


Shownotes

International Worship Centre - https://iwcentre.com/

Lead Pastor Fellowship Application - https://www.thepastorate.ca/lpf

Coram Deo Foundation Joseph Chung Scholarship - https://coramdeofoundation.com/joseph-chung-scholarship-application

Fall City Meetups - https://thepastorate.ca/gatherings


Partners


Special thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for making this episode possible. We invite you to explore their ⁠Bible Course⁠ to help your church grow in Scripture engagement.

The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. As we look to the future, would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or ⁠making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community⁠?

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1 month ago
54 minutes 2 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Shaila Visser with the Lead Pastors Fellowship: Reaching Gen Alpha, the Future of Alpha Canada, and Canada’s Unique Spiritual Moment

Today’s episode features a conversation between Tammy Giffen, Lead Pastor of Groundswell Church in Turo Nova Scotia and Shaila Visser, National Director of Alpha Canada and Senior Vice President at Alpha International. It’s a recording of a conversation that took place live in front of our Lead Pastor Fellowship cohort, two weeks ago when they were gathered together in Vancouver for a city meetup. Over the course of that week together, the cohort, made up of 15 pastors from across Canada, spent time learning from local pastors and leaders, touring local churches, and enjoying quality time together. This conversation between Tammy and Shaila was one of the sessions of the week that was designed to help encourage our cohort members and sharpen their pastoral imagination, specifically around the themes of evangelism, prayer, and ministry to Gen Alpha and Gen Z. 

Shaila shares how a late-night encounter with the Holy Spirit reframed her entire sense of calling and how that moment has shaped Alpha Canada’s vision for the next generation. In this conversation, Shaila unpacks the four questions God gave her in the middle of the night and how they’ve become a compass for her leadership. She reflects on what it looks like to hold a big vision while cultivating deep spiritual rhythms of prayer and fasting, and why people across Canada are uniquely open to the gospel during this time.

Along the way, Shaila highlights:

  • Why naming 4.4 million Canadian high school students has expanded Alpha’s vision for youth ministry.
  • How Made for This, a national prayer initiative, is mobilizing churches to cover schools across the country.
  • Why she believes Gen Alpha is more spiritually open than any generation in decades.
  • How equipping students to run Alpha for their peers strengthens discipleship and mission.


This conversation will encourage pastors to think bigger about the next generation, lean deeper into spiritual dependence, and not grow weary in ministry. Shaila closes with a moving word of encouragement: to keep going, for the sake of those who do not yet know Jesus.


Show Notes

  • Shaila’s Website
  • Gen Alpha Data and Resource Pack
  • Made for This Campaign
  • Alpha Student Leadership Collective
  • Coram Deo Foundation Joseph Chung Scholarship


Partners

The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. As we look to the future, would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or ⁠making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community⁠?


Generis helps churches to cultivate a culture of generosity. Contact Jon Wright at Generis to learn more. 

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2 months ago
44 minutes 53 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Ryan Johnson on Healing from Brokenness, Leading through Pain, and Building a Community of Worship and Hope

In this conversation, Jason sits down with Ryan Johnson, pastor of Church Untitled in downtown Vancouver. Ryan shares openly about how the church began after the collapse of another, walking through seasons of anxiety and depression, and learning to cultivate a dependence on God while shepherding people who were hurting. What started with a small group meeting in the corner of a nightclub has grown into a worshipping community in the heart of the city marked by prayer, consecration, and God’s presence.

Jason and Ryan explore themes that matter deeply to pastors today, including:

- Consecration before vision: The formative role of Joshua 3:5, focusing on internal formation and God’s presence ahead of programs and plans.

- Dependence vs. strategy: Learning to follow the Spirit’s guiding, and how to keep choosing dependence even after growth and momentum arrive.

- Worship as shepherding: How worship shapes us beyond emotion, trading what we feel for what we know of God, and the importance of extended spaces of prayer and song.

- Ongoing healing for leaders and churches: Naming self-protection, practicing vulnerability, and letting love perfect what fear distorts in the life of a community.

- Citywide unity and hunger: Stories of collaborative worship nights, overflowing prayer ministry, and a growing hunger for God across ages and backgrounds.

If you’ve walked through church hurt, or are leading people who have, this episode offers an honest, hope-filled account of how God turns ruins into foundations and pain into worship.


Show Notes

- Church Untitled | https://www.churchuntitled.com/

- Fall City Meetups⁠⁠ | https://www.thepastorate.ca/gatherings

- Lead Pastors Fellowship⁠⁠ | https://www.thepastorate.ca/lpf

⁠⁠- Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing⁠⁠ | https://www.thepastorate.ca/events/pastorsretreatfall2025

- The Pastorate Listener Survey⁠ | https://www.thepastorate.ca/survey


Thank You to Our Episode Sponsor

Special thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for making this episode possible. We invite you to explore their ⁠Bible Course⁠ to help your church grow in Scripture engagement. | https://biblesociety.ca/thebiblecourse/

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2 months ago
1 hour 4 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Pete Hughes with the Lead Pastors Fellowship: Pastoral Courage, Revival, and Leading in the Power of the Spirit

Today’s episode of The Pastorate looks a little different. Instead of our typical format where Jason interviews a guest, we’re pulling back the curtain on our Lead Pastors Fellowship and inviting you into a conversation that Pete Hughes, pastor of KXC London, had with our cohort participants during one of their monthly Zoom sessions. We’re sharing it here because it speaks directly into the cultural moment we find ourselves in, and because applications for the next round of the Lead Pastors Fellowship open next month.

In this conversation, Pete Hughes unpacks the “quiet revival” taking shape across the global West, especially among Gen Z, and what courageous, Spirit-led pastoring looks like in this season. He names why many are rejecting secularism both intellectually and experientially, and why this surge of spiritual openness demands bold, clear invitations to follow Jesus.

Pete invites pastors to imagine what courageous and Spirit-dependent leadership looks like in a cultural moment hungry for more. This conversation wrestles with how to speak with clarity in contested spaces, how to shepherd both skeptics and seekers, and how to walk at a pace that can endure renewal. It points to a vision of ministry that pairs bold invitation with deep formation, offering hope for leaders who long to see Jesus meet people with power and presence. Stay tuned until the end of the episode as Pete concludes the conversation with a prayer for Canadian pastors.


Show Notes

  • King’s Cross Church
  • Pete’s Instagram
  • Fall City Meetups
  • Lead Pastors Fellowship
  • The Pastorate Listener Survey
  • Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing


Partners

  • The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. As we look to the future, would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or ⁠making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community⁠?
  • Generis helps churches to cultivate a culture of generosity. Contact Jon Wright at Generis to learn more. 
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3 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 19 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Dom Ruso on Church Planting in Quebec, Pastoring in a Post-Christian Age, and Making the Bible Make Sense in a Secular World

In this conversation, Jason sits down with Dom Ruso, pastor of The 180 Church in Greater Montreal, to talk about the joys and challenges of church planting in one of the most secularized contexts in North America.

Dom shares openly about his discernment journey, how God drew him and his wife back to Quebec despite initial resistance, and what it has looked like to build a church community from scratch in a region where many are spiritually open but institutionally skeptical.

Jason and Dom explore themes that matter deeply to pastors today:

  • Dom’s honest wrestle with returning to Quebec, and the slow ways God confirmed the call to plant a church there.
  • The unique dynamics of Quebec culture and what it means to preach the Bible in ways that connect with people who carry wounds from religion or who feel indifferent toward Christianity.
  • How congregations can embody health and unity in a divided cultural landscape, and what Canada’s regional differences can teach us about God’s work across the country.
  • Why it’s not enough to “tell” people what the Bible says, but to invite them into its story, and how plot points of Scripture resonate with modern longings for justice, meaning, and identity.
  • Why it matters to recover a distinct vision of pastoral calling, and how the overlap with modern leadership and coaching culture can blur what shepherding the people of God really means.


Dom also talks about his new book, The Bible for a Shifting Secular Age, which brings together his pastoral experience and academic work to offer handles for understanding secularism and fresh ways of presenting Scripture today.


Show Notes


The 180 Church

The Bible for a Shifting Secular Age

Give to our $30,000 August Match Campaign

⁠⁠Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing⁠⁠

The Pastorate Listener Survey⁠


Thank You to Our Episode Sponsor

Special thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for making this episode possible. We invite you to explore their ⁠Bible Course⁠ to help your church grow in Scripture engagement.

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3 months ago
44 minutes 48 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Howard Jolly on Reconciliation in the Canadian Church, the Courage to Face Our Shared Story, and How His Father’s Transformation Led Him to Jesus

Howard Jolly has served as a pastor, musician, and leader among Indigenous churches across Canada for decades. Recently retired as Executive Director of the Indigenous Alliance Churches of Canada, Howard carries a deep passion for reconciliation within the Church and the renewal of Indigenous communities in Christ.

In this conversation, Howard shares his journey from growing up in Moose Factory, Ontario, to pastoring First Nations Community Church in Winnipeg for 15 years, and leading a national network of Indigenous Alliance churches. His life and ministry have been shaped by a conviction that First Peoples reaching First Peoples is central to the gospel’s witness in Canada, and that reconciliation is not just for the healing of Indigenous communities, but for the health and fruitfulness of the whole Church.

Together, Howard and Jason explore:

  • How ministry to Indigenous peoples must engage colonial history, identity loss, and generational trauma,
  • Why reconciliation is essential for the whole body of Christ, not just Indigenous peoples,
  • The role of relationship, dignity, and presence in pastoral ministry,
  • Howard’s personal story of coming to faith through the transformation of his father’s life,
  • and Howard’s hopes and prayers for the future of the Church in Canada and the righteous reign of Jesus in our land.

Howard speaks with warmth, humility, and deep wisdom born of a long obedience to Christ. His story invites pastors to move toward reconciliation with courage, to honour the dignity of all people, and to believe afresh in the hope and healing found in Jesus Christ.

Show Notes

  • Indigenous Alliance Churches of Canada
  • Give to our $30,000 August Match Campaign
  • Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing
  • The Pastorate Listener Survey


Partners

Contact Jon Wright at Generis for help cultivating a culture of generosity in your church.

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4 months ago
55 minutes 55 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Lissa Wray Beal on Why Pastors Need the Old Testament, Faithfully Preaching Trauma Texts, and the Role of Seminary in a Changing Church

The Old Testament can feel daunting to preach, but it’s an essential part of the story we’re called to tell. Many pastors avoid preaching texts of violence, trauma, and grief but what if these difficult texts are exactly what our churches need to hear? In this conversation, Old Testament scholar and Anglican priest Dr. Lissa Wray Beal offers a thoughtful and deeply encouraging guide for engaging the harder parts of Scripture. Drawing from her current writing on the book of Jeremiah and her years of pastoral ministry and academic scholarship, Lissa makes the case that these ancient texts are essential for helping congregations find language in time of suffering and struggle.


Together Lissa and Jason explore:

- Preaching texts of trauma with both theological clarity and pastoral care, especially in communities shaped by grief, abuse, or injustice,

- Finding solidarity with Jeremiah as a model for faithful ministry in seasons of exhaustion, obscurity, or rejection,

- Navigating denominational shifts with humility, theological conviction, and an openness to the diverse expressions of the Church,

- Recovering the Psalms as vital resources for congregational prayer, especially in times of cultural and spiritual disorientation,

- Rethinking the future of seminaries: the importance of embodied formation, theological depth, and renewed partnership with the Church.


Lissa is thoughtful and pastoral, blending scholarly depth with real-world insight. This is a thoughtful conversation about formation in the word, pastoral faithfulness, and the steady grace of God in the complexity of everyday life.


Show Notes

  • Lissa Wray Beal’s Publications
  • The Pastorate Listener Survey
  • Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing


Support the Work of The Pastorate

The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. As we look to the future, would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or ⁠making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community⁠?


Thank You to Our Episode Sponsor

Special thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for making this episode possible. We invite you to explore their ⁠Bible Course⁠ to help your church grow in Scripture engagement.

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4 months ago
55 minutes 3 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Matthew Price on Learning to Love the Suburbs, Leading Post-Burnout, and Church Revitalization

In this episode, we welcome Matthew Price, Lead Pastor of North Langley Community Church, for a deeply personal conversation about pastoral ministry.

Matthew opens up about his unexpected journey into preaching, the powerful influence of mentors like Darrell Johnson, and how a vision from God reshaped his love for suburban ministry.

Matthew and Jason explore:
• The complexities and beauty of multi-site church leadership, including revitalizing declining churches
• Matthew’s experience of burnout—the physical and emotional toll, and practices that led to healing
• Wrestling with theological questions and pastoral identity in public ministry
• Leading differently now: embracing limitation, trusting his team, and cultivating a slower, more sustainable pace

Matthew’s story is a powerful reminder of God’s faithfulness in the midst of suffering—and an invitation for pastors to slow down, be honest about their limitations, and rediscover their identity as beloved children of God.

This is a conversation about learning to lead from a place of rest, receiving God’s love afresh, and finding joy in the ordinary work of pastoring.

Show Notes:
North Langley Community Church
The Pastorate Listener Survey
Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing

Support the Work of The Pastorate
The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. Would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community?

Thank You to Our Episode Sponsor:
Generis helps churches cultivate a culture of generosity.
Contact John Wright at Generis to learn more.

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5 months ago
52 minutes 22 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Pradeepan Jeeva on Planting in a Post-Christian City, Pastoring Through Suffering, and Measuring Christian Discipleship

In today’s episode, Jason sits down with pastor and church planter Pradeepan Jeeva for a vulnerable conversation on calling, suffering, and leading a church where everyone can find their place. Pradeepan and his wife Amritha co-lead Kalos Church in Bellevue, Washington, a vibrant, multicultural community born out of a literal dream and built one backyard barbecue at a time.

With tender honesty Pradeepan shares about the joy and heartbreak of planting in one of the most unchurched cities in America, and how his family’s story, from Sri Lankan refugees to pastors in Seattle, has shaped the unique multicultural demographic of their church. From his personal mental health challenges to his children’s autism diagnoses, Pradeepan opens up about what it means to keep pastoring when life gets tough, and how the Church he founded became an essential support to his family.

In this conversation, Pradeepan shares:

  • The spiritual roots of Kalos Church and how a dream led them to plant a church in Seattle,
  • How the Church helped carry him through personal grief, personal breakdown, and family hardship,
  • How his son became the inspiration behind their church’s thriving special needs ministry,
  • A fresh, practical model for discipleship borrowed from his son’s individualized education plan,
  • and why story-sharing and vulnerability are non-negotiables for building a diverse, healing community.


Pradeepan’s passion for Jesus, love for the Church, and unwavering commitment to those on the margins will leave you encouraged, challenged, and deeply moved.


Show Notes

  • Pradeepan’s Mailing List and Book Notifications
  • Kalos Church
  • The Pastorate Listener Survey
  • Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing


Support the Work of The Pastorate

The work of strengthening pastors across Canada is only possible because of generous partners like you. As we look to the future, would you consider joining us in prayer, sharing this episode, or making a gift to invest in a vibrant, Jesus-centered church in every community?


Thank You to Our Episode Sponsor

Special thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for making this episode possible. We invite you to explore their Bible Course to help your church grow in Scripture engagement.


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5 months ago
57 minutes 50 seconds

The Pastorate Podcast
Rebecca McLaughlin on the Timeless Wisdom of Christian Sexual Ethics, a Gospel-Shaped Vision of Singleness, and the Offence of the Gospel in a Post-Christian World
  • In a time when Christian sexual ethics are increasingly seen not just as outdated but as morally offensive, how can pastors lead with both clarity and compassion? In this conversation, author and apologist Rebecca McLaughlin engages with questions around Christian sexual ethics and makes a case for why the Christian story is ultimately good news for everyone. Rebecca reflects on how the cultural conversation surrounding Christian apologetics has shifted over the last two decades, from intellectual skepticism to moral resistance and she explores how the Church can respond to increasing secularism without losing its moral conviction or its tenderness.

  • Rebecca explores key challenges and opportunities facing pastors today including: 
    • Articulating historic Christian beliefs on sexuality and gender in ways that draw people toward Jesus with both conviction and compassion,
    • Reframing singleness as a vital, gospel-shaped calling, not a transitional or secondary state,
    • Recovering a vision of Christian marriage and singleness as signposts pointing to Christ and His love for the Church,
    • Recognizing that today’s cultural objections often reveal a deeper hunger for love, identity, and belonging that only the gospel can satisfy.

  • Rebecca is bold and gracious, bringing sharp cultural insight, theological depth, and a pastoral sensitivity to the conversation. You’ll be encouraged to lead with both truth and tenderness, and to see even the hardest conversations as opportunities to point people to Jesus.


  • Show Notes:
    • ⁠Rebecca's Website and Books⁠⁠⁠
    • The Pastorate Podcast Listener Survey⁠⁠⁠
    • Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing⁠⁠
    • The Pastorate Careers

  • Partners:
    • Contact ⁠John Wright at Generis⁠ for help cultivating a culture of generosity in your church.
    • We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠give⁠⁠⁠⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.
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    5 months ago
    40 minutes 31 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    R. Paul Stevens on Why Every Christian is in Full-Time Ministry, Embracing Whole-Life Discipleship, and Empowering the Whole Church for Kingdom Work

    In this episode, Jason sits down with long-time pastor, professor, and marketplace theologian R. Paul Stevens to explore the sacredness of daily work. Paul’s ministry journey spans decades, from student ministry in Halifax to pastoring in Vancouver, teaching at Regent College, and even a mid-career stint as a carpenter. Paul unpacks the heartbeat behind his conviction that every follower of Jesus is in full-time ministry and that whatever your vocation, be it a pastor, a police officer, or a mother, your work matters to God. 

    In this conversation Paul shares about: 

    • How Ephesians 4 set helped him come to realize that all Christians are in “full-time ministry,” 

    • The danger of dualism among our congregations and the importance of reclaiming whole-life, integrated discipleship,

    • How pastors can empower their congregations for Monday-to-Saturday faithfulness, 

    • A story of meeting a young seeker on public transit and the unfolding of their year-long discipleship journey.

    Paul is thoughtful and intentional, bringing over 50 years of ministry experience and theological rigor to the conversation. In this episode Paul will remind you that pastoral leadership isn’t confined to a platform or pulpit, and you’ll be inspired by stories of a seasoned pastor living out the Gospel in his ordinary, everyday moments.


    Show Notes:

    • Fall 2025 Pastors Retreat at Barnabas Landing
    • Paul’s Website
    • Institute for Marketplace Transformation


  • Partners:

    • We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠give⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.
    • Learn more about the Canadian Bible Society's "Bible Course."
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    6 months ago
    41 minutes 34 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    Dustin Funk on the Importance of Camp Ministry, Local Church Renewal, and Annual Rhythms of Rest

    In this episode, Jason sits down with Dustin Funk, Lead Pastor of Oasis Church in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Dustin shares his journey from encountering God at summer camp as a teenager, to stepping into leadership at a small Italian-speaking church, to guiding that same church through a remarkable season of cultural transition and growth. 

    Dustin reflects on the lessons he’s learned over 27 years in pastoral ministry, how to lead through change, how to apologize well, and how to stay grounded in the faithful work of local church leadership. He talks candidly about what it was like to preach through an interpreter in an ethnic church context, how his church embraced a portable season before building a permanent home, and how he has come to embrace annual rhythms of rest. 

    In this conversation Dustin shares about: 

    • How a camp experience shaped Dustin’s call to ministry,

    • Preaching in a language he didn’t speak,

    • The transformation of Oasis Church from an ethnic congregation to a multi-generational community,

    • The highs and lows of 12 years as a portable church,

    • Why he takes a study break every year,
    • How the gospel offers something the world is hungry for.


    Show Notes

    • Oasis Church – Winnipeg, MB
    • Learn more about ⁠Baptize Canada.⁠
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    6 months ago
    42 minutes 50 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    Preston Pouteaux on Pastoring with a Tender Heart, the Sacred Work of Neighbouring, and the Power of Presence in Pastoral Ministry

    In today’s conversation Preston Pouteaux shares what it means to be a tenderhearted pastor in a fast-paced world. Speaking from Chestermere, Alberta, Preston invites us into a vision of pastoring that’s slow, rooted, and profoundly local. From RCMP ride-alongs to keeping bees and loving neighbours, Preston offers a poetic yet practical vision of what it means to love and serve a place and its people. 

    In this conversation Preston shares about: 

    • How pastoral imagination is formed,

    • How curiosity and inquiry is a needed pastoral posture, 

    • Riding along with RCMP officers at night as a Chaplain,

    • Beekeeping and the theology of pollinators, and 

    • Why presence, more than expertise, is a pastor’s most powerful gift.

    This episode is for any pastor who is seeking to better understand their context and to serve their people well. You’ll be reminded that gentleness is not weakness, and that being embedded in your local community might be the most courageous thing you can do.


    Show Notes

    • Preston’s Book: The Bees of Rainbow Falls: Finding Faith, Imagination, and Delight in Your Neighbourhood 
    • Lake Ridge Community Church 

  • Partners

    • Contact John Wright at Generis – for help cultivating a culture of generosity in your church.
    • We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠⁠give⁠⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.
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    7 months ago
    46 minutes 17 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    Steve Cuss on His Year as a Chaplain, The Gap Between What We Preach and What We Experience, and Leading Without Carrying the Anxiety of Others

    What does it look like to stay tender and human as a pastor, even while holding the weight of others’ pain? In this rich and deeply practical conversation, Steve Cuss shares wisdom from decades of ministry—including his years as a hospital chaplain, a lead pastor, and now, a trusted voice equipping leaders around the world in managing leadership anxiety.

    Steve reflects on transitioning out of senior leadership, the gift of simply being a congregant, and how to stay present in rooms thick with grief and unspoken pressure. With vulnerability and humour, he unpacks how pastors can become aware of their own coping mechanisms, grow in emotional health, and shift from reacting to reflecting.

    Whether you’re navigating your own expectations, dealing with system-wide stress, or walking with people through deep loss, this conversation is packed with soul-forming insight.

    In today’s episode:

    • Lessons from chaplaincy on presence, restraint, and incarnational ministry
    • How anxiety circulates in church systems (and how to disrupt it with calm leadership)
    • The “expectation gap” in our relationship with God and how to close it

    Biography

    Steve Cuss is a leadership coach, speaker, and former hospital chaplain and pastor who helps leaders grow in emotional and spiritual health. With years of experience in Family Systems Theory, chaplaincy, and church leadership, Steve equips others to manage anxiety, stay grounded under pressure, and lead with greater presence. He’s the author of Managing Leadership Anxiety and The Expectation Gap, and the founder of Capable Life—a practical resource that’s helped thousands of leaders around the world break free from stuck patterns and lead with clarity, peace, and purpose.

    Partners

    We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠give⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.

    Thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for supporting this episode. Learn more about their ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bible Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    Guest Notes

    • Steve’s Website https://www.stevecusswords.com/
    • The Expectation Gap https://www.amazon.ca/Expectation-Gap-between-Beliefs-Experience/dp/0310156378
    • Managing Leadership Anxiety https://www.amazon.ca/Managing-Leadership-Anxiety-Yours-Theirs/dp/1400210887
    • Capable Life ​​https://capablelife.com/

  • Show Notes

    • Website⁠
    • ⁠Blog and Episode Write Up⁠
    • ⁠Youtube⁠
    • ⁠Instagram

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    7 months ago
    58 minutes 37 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    Canadian Pastors Joe Jung, Ben Carbone, and Jaz Ghag Share Their Stories

    In this special episode of The Pastorate Podcast, we’re doing something a little different. Rather than one long-form conversation, you'll hear stories from three Canadian lead pastors. Representing the suburbs of BC, the heart of Quebec, and a small coastal town on the Pacific Ocean, these pastors—Joe Jung, Ben Carbone, and Jaz Ghag—open up about calling, family, leadership, and the unique challenges of ministry in their contexts. Each story offers encouragement for pastors navigating their own ministry in a Canadian context.

    This episode serves as a reminder that you’re not alone in this work. God is moving across Canada and here is a glimpse into what he is doing. 

    In this episode:

    • Joe Jung on vocational shift, obedience to God’s call, and pastoring alongside his family
    • Ben Carbone on succession, the danger of comparison, and loving the people before the vision
    • Jaz Ghag on coming to faith from a Sikh background and the cost of following Jesus

  • Guest Notes

    • Joe Jung (Town & Field, Langley) 
    • Ben Carbone (MCI Church, Montreal) 
    • Jaz Ghag (Christian Life Assembly, Gibsons)


    Show Notes

    • Learn more about The Pastorate
    • Join our Giving Community, The Seed
    • Contact Jon Wright at Generis – for help cultivating a culture of generosity
    • Youtube⁠
    • ⁠Instagram⁠


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    Want to share your story or connect with our team? Reach out here.

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    8 months ago
    42 minutes 33 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    Reward Sibanda on How Culture Shapes Ministry, The Role of the Megachurch Today, and Fasting as a Means to Soul Rest

    In this episode, Jason sits down with Reward Sibanda, a pastor, speaker, and writer, a leading voice on fasting and a Pastor at Saddleback Church. Reward is known for his contagious joy, his deep love for the church, and his ability to bridge cultural gaps in ministry.

    In this conversation, Jason and Reward explore:

    • How different cultural perspectives shape our understanding of church, community, and discipleship.
    • The tension around megachurches and why large-scale ministry can still be redeemed for kingdom expansion.
    • The recent Return Gathering at Saddleback and signs of revival across the global church.
    • The spiritual, emotional, and physical benefits of fasting—and why this ancient discipline is crucial for leaders today.

    No matter your context, our hope is you would be strengthened and encouraged by this conversation today.

    Biography

    Reward Sibanda is a dynamic speaker, writer, pastor at Saddleback Church, and the Senior Director of National Church Engagement at World Vision, the world's largest Christian humanitarian organization. Renowned for his unique perspective and transformative insights that challenge conventional thinking, Reward thrives on empowering and challenging people from all walks of life to transcend limitations and pursue God's best for them. His ministry inspires many, and his book, How to Fast, offers a powerful guide to rejuvenation. Reward resides in California with his wife Pam and son Silo.

    We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠give⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.

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    Thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for supporting this episode. Learn more about their ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bible Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    Guest Notes

    • Reward's Website
    • Saddleback Church
    • How To Fast—Reward’s New Book
    • Reward's Instagram

    Show Notes

    • Website⁠
    • ⁠Blog and Episode Write Up⁠
    • ⁠Youtube⁠
    • ⁠Instagram⁠

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    8 months ago
    49 minutes 22 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    Tyler Staton on the Redemption of Pain, Contextualizing Our Suffering Within the Story of Scripture, and Cultivating a Daily Desire to Experience the Power of the Holy Spirit

    In this episode of The Pastorate, Jason sits down with Tyler Staton, lead pastor of Bridgetown Church and author of The Familiar Stranger, to explore how God works in seasons of suffering and renewal. Tyler shares candidly on how deep pain has shaped his understanding of faith, ministry, and the presence of God in everyday life.

    Tyler is known for his deep love of prayer, his thoughtful teaching, and his passion for seeing people encounter the living God. 

    In this conversation Tyler and Jason cover these themes, 

    • Tyler’s experiences of walking through suffering—both in his family and his own health—and how those experiences have shaped his faith and ministry. 

    • Inviting others into the story of God in preaching in order to provide them a context for their pain.

    • Cultivating a deeper desire to encounter the life-changing power of the Holy Spirit every day.

    • Tyler’s new book, The Familiar Stranger.

    No matter where you are or what season you’re walking through, our prayer is that this conversation would strengthen your heart and your hands, and that you’d experience a renewed sense of the Father’s desire and ability to redeem your pain.

    Biography

    Tyler Staton is the Lead Pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland, Oregon, where he lives with his wife Kirsten, and their sons Hank, Simon, and Amos. He is passionate about living prayerfully and relationally. Tyler is the author of three books: Praying Like Monks, Living Like Fools, Searching for Enough, and The Familiar Stranger.

    We couldn’t do the work we do at The Pastorate without your generous support. We invite you to pray, share, and ⁠give⁠ towards seeding a hope-filled future for the Canadian church.

    Thanks to Generis for supporting this episode. Download a free PDF on Improving Your Giving Statements from Generis or get in touch with Jon Wright from their team here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

    Guest Notes

    • Tyler’s Website https://www.tylerstaton.com/

    • The Familiar Stranger https://www.amazon.ca/Familiar-Stranger-Introducing-Experiential-Spirituality/dp/1400247705

    • Bridgetown Church https://bridgetown.church/

    • 24-7 Prayer USA https://www.24-7prayerusa.com/

    Show Notes

    • Website⁠

    • ⁠Blog and Episode Write Up⁠

    • ⁠Youtube⁠

    • ⁠Instagram⁠

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    9 months ago
    47 minutes 24 seconds

    The Pastorate Podcast
    The Pastorate Podcast hosts thoughtful conversations with guests who are passionate about the Canadian church. Here to serve Canadian pastors, we dive into topics that speak to the heart, soul, and vision of the pastorate, all the while sharing stories from guests who minister in diverse church contexts.