In this conversation, Alyssa Kyle and Monica explore the complex emotions surrounding loneliness during the holiday season. They discuss the societal expectations of joy and the reality of many individuals feeling isolated and disconnected. The discussion delves into different types of loneliness, the impact of grief, and the importance of therapists being present and empathetic with their clients. They emphasize the need for connection, joy, and identity in overcoming loneliness, and how therapists can help clients navigate these feelings during the holidays.