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The Political Risk Podcast
David Benyon
58 episodes
3 days ago
An independent, journalist-run podcast, focused on geopolitics and insurance markets, serving risk professionals and decision makers in specialty insurance, reinsurance, and beyond. The guest list mixes senior underwriters, brokers and CEOs from the world of specialty insurance markets with geopolitics expertise from analysts, authors, diplomats and academics.
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An independent, journalist-run podcast, focused on geopolitics and insurance markets, serving risk professionals and decision makers in specialty insurance, reinsurance, and beyond. The guest list mixes senior underwriters, brokers and CEOs from the world of specialty insurance markets with geopolitics expertise from analysts, authors, diplomats and academics.
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The Political Risk Podcast
Geopolitics, Leadership and Risk at Mach 2, with John 'Dragon' Teichert, Brig Gen, US Air Force (ret)

John Teichert is a recently retired US Air Force brigadier general and former test pilot for the F-22 stealth fighter.

A graduate of MIT and Stanford, John flew combat missions in the F-15E, call-sign “Dragon”, and test piloted the F-22 Raptor. He later commanded Joint Base Andrews and Edwards Air Force Base. He went on to serve as the senior US Defense Official in Iraq and finished his military career overseeing international partnerships for the USAF.

We explore test piloting as the ultimate risk management role, lessons from real-world geopolitics, and leadership under extreme pressure, including reflections on friendships with legendary test pilots Chuck Yeager and Eric “Winkle” Brown.

A high-speed start to 2026.

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5 days ago
40 minutes 46 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Art vs Science: Data, Decision-making and the Future of PVT Underwriting

Join two special guests for a conversation about the future of political violence and terrorism underwriting. Billy Ayres is head of crisis management at The Fidelis Partnership, and Simon Fagg is global head of pre-sales solutions at AdvantageGo.

We discuss how PVT underwriters blend expertise with analytics, what underwriters really want from their data and tech providers, insurer fears about strikes, riots and civil commotion (SRCC) becoming a frequency peril, and the evolution of terrorism risk towards active-assailant coverage.

Two recent white papers published by AdvantageGo in collaboration with this podcast explore the same themes. These are: “Political Violence: Underwriting in an Age of Insecurity” ; and “More Art Than Science: PVT’s Use of Data-Analysis and Modelling Techniques”.

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3 weeks ago
39 minutes 40 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Political Risk Outlook: Conflict, Instability and the World to 2030

This special edition of the Political Risk Podcast features Verisk Maplecroft’s Political Risk Outlook report. Anna Gilmour, Head of Global Risk Insight, joins Hugo Brennan, Director of Research, EMEA, to discuss the research, offering a forward-looking assessment of the forces reshaping geopolitics, global markets and insurance portfolios.

The special episode explores why political risk has become structural rather than cyclical, with instability now embedded across developed and emerging markets. Anna outlines the headline findings from Verisk Maplecroft’s extensive risk data and expert analysis, explaining why businesses and insurers must now proactively plan around persistent uncertainty rather than treating shocks as one-off events.

Hugo talks us through the report’s conflict chapter, detailing the sharp expansion of conflict-affected territories since 2021, from high-profile wars to under-reported flashpoints in Nigeria, Pakistan and Colombia. He also examines the rise of hybrid warfare activity across Europe as a key trend for political violence underwriters.

Conversation turns to mounting government instability and the sharp rise in civil unrest risk across Europe, before Anna assesses the geopolitical and commercial implications of the new tariff environment, shifting supply chains and the uneven resilience of key emerging markets.

To conclude, Anna and Hugo guide listeners through the report’s three core scenarios for the world to 2030 – Drift, Fracture, Adaptation – and highlight some signposts that could reveal which path the world is taking. A direct link to Verisk Maplecroft’s Political Risk Outlook report is included below.

https://www.maplecroft.com/resources/outlooks/political-risk-outlook/

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1 month ago
37 minutes 52 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
History matters...and so does ignoring it, with Mosaic’s Charlie Mackay and Robert Hunter

Robert Hunter, former US ambassador to NATO and chief White House official for Europe and the Middle East joins Mosaic Insurance’s international CUO Charlie Mackay to explore why a firm grasp of history is essential to understanding today’s geopolitical uncertainty.

From US foreign-policy unpredictability to the return of great-power rivalry and the role of China, Robert explains how complacency over decades has eroded strategic thinking in Washington.

Charlie provides an underwriting perspective on what uncertainty and complacency at government level mean for political risk and political violence risks facing global business.

The two discuss the value of historical context, local expertise and new AI tools helping insurers assess ‘what-if’ scenarios for multinationals operating in volatile regions. They also reflect on shifting alliances, Russia-Ukraine, and why unpredictability is driving demand for specialty insurance protection.

Enjoy this latest special episode, produced in association with Mosaic. My thanks also to The Ambassador Partnership, and below a link to Robert’s “History Matters” article for further reading. https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2025/10/history-matters/

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1 month ago
45 minutes 38 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Leadership through geopolitical crisis, with WTW’s Pamela Thomson-Hall

Pamela Thomson-Hall, head of international at Willis, offers crisis management advice, supporting clients through geopolitical shocks and leading an international broking business. From Russia–Ukraine lessons to horizon scanning, scenario analysis and a guidebook for CEOs, she explains why preparation, agility, clear communication and cultural sensitivity are essential when crises suddenly unfold. Pamela also discusses aviation insurance, from war claims and contract certainty, to supporting the return of civil aviation to Ukrainian airspace.

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2 months ago
32 minutes 43 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Insuring Ukraine: MS Amlin’s URGF blueprint for war risk and resilience

As Ukraine endures and rebuilds, insurers are playing a quiet but crucial role in keeping goods moving and businesses operating.

Jamie Cleary, head of crisis management at MS Amlin, speaks about the creation of the Ukraine Reinsurance Guarantee Facility (URGF), a landmark partnership between the EBRD, donor governments, and the private insurance market.

He explains how the URGF provides war risk cover to local Ukrainian insurers, supporting trade and economic resilience, and why it could serve as a blueprint for future public-private insurance models in other high-risk regions.

The discussion also explores how modern warfare, drone technology, and AI are reshaping crisis management underwriting — and why, behind every insurance policy, there’s a deeply human story.

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2 months ago
22 minutes 1 second

The Political Risk Podcast
De-risking Development: LSM’s Will Limb on Political Risk Insurance and the SDG Investment Gap

How can political risk insurance unlock trillions in investment for sustainable development? William Limb, head of political risk solutions at Liberty Specialty Markets (LSM) discusses a landmark UNCTAD report, “De-risking Investment for Sustainable Development Goals: The Role of Political Risk Insurance”. The conversation explores how political risk cover can bridge the $4trn annual funding gap holding back projects in emerging markets – from energy and infrastructure to clean water and housing. Limb discusses LSM’s global political risk portfolio, a doubling of inquiries made about cover within the past year, innovation in bespoke and portfolio-level solutions, and the growing role of public–private collaboration in de-risking investment. He also explains how awareness of the product remains limited beyond multilateral circles, why the private market is crucial to scaling protection, and how insurers can add value beyond pure risk transfer. A deep dive into how underwriting expertise and creative structures can help investors deliver impact while managing geopolitical risk.

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3 months ago
42 minutes 11 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Kidnap & Ransom: Global Hotspots and Conditions for K&R to Thrive

Kidnap and ransom (K&R) is one of the most specialised – and least understood – corners of the insurance world.

In this special episode, in association with Gallagher Specialty, Eddie Kurshumlija, director of crisis management at Gallagher Specialty, and Adam Carrier, head of consulting at AnotherDay, a Gallagher company, explore how K&R policies work in practice, from what’s typically included or can be added on, to response consultants, intelligence support, duty of care and crisis planning.

Discussion moves on to examine where conditions are ripe for K&R to proliferate, from weak rule of law and organised crime to civil unrest and geopolitical instability. The guests highlight case studies from Syria, Nigeria, Mexico and beyond, while also looking at rising risks in Western contexts such as workplace violence.

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3 months ago
29 minutes 8 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Aviation war to multi-class specialty – watch this space – HIVE's Bruce Carman

Bruce Carman, CEO of Hive Underwriters, returns for a wide-ranging conversation. You can’t get broader than space, where we start, which is Hive’s latest launch. We trace the London MGA's development from aviation war into multi-class specialty agency. We also discuss consequences of June's High Court ruling that losses incurred by aircraft lessors of planes seized by Russia after its invasion of Ukraine are to be covered under aviation hull war policies.

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4 months ago
31 minutes 41 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
A perfect storm for credit and political risk re/insurance, with Lockton Re's Eran Charit

Trade wars and geopolitics are reshaping global supply chains, counterparty risk, and credit and political risk insurance (CPRI). In this episode, Eran Charit, senior broker at Lockton Re, shares his perspective on how a pipeline of new CPRI entrants and fresh capacity are softening conditions in the primary market, while treaty reinsurance remains more fragile to systemic shocks, due to the short list of reinsurers willing to lead in this class. We discuss the risks of a reinsurer suddenly exiting, and systemic shock scenarios that could destabilise portfolios, from corporate fraud to a cyber-attack on digital infrastructure. With experience broking at both primary and reinsurance levels, Eran brings unique insight into a fast-moving and often misunderstood class of business.

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4 months ago
27 minutes 33 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Social media and political violence, with Arch’s Jelle Ouwehand

Jelle Ouwehand, head of war, terrorism and political violence at Arch Insurance International, features in this episode. Political violence has a close and complex relationship with social media. The speed at which news travels, and the democratising power of social media, are meeting with forces of political populism and polarisation. Together with increased proliferation of fake news, misinformation and disinformation, all these factors mean social media are fanning the flames of social disorder, with inevitable fallout for underwriting PV and SRCC risks.

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5 months ago
27 minutes 48 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
No going back: A riskier, more fragmented world order – with Swiss Re's Jérôme Haegeli

Jérôme Haegeli, Swiss Re’s chief economist, discusses its latest Sigma study. Global growth is slowing at a time of large macroeconomic regime shifts; extreme policy uncertainty is set to persist with the highest US goods tariffs since the Great Depression, the reinsurer’s report warns. This ep relates headline geopolitics to outcomes for insurance premium and claims trends – positive and negative – across lines of business, from marine cargo to motor, and property catastrophe reinsurance business. You can read the Swiss Re Sigma study “World insurance in 2025: a riskier, more fragmented world order”, here. https://www.swissre.com/institute/research/sigma-research.html

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5 months ago
29 minutes 6 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
The first Catastrophe Risk Model for Civil Unrest: Verisk Maplecroft's SRCC model for the United States

Verisk Maplecroft’s new Strikes, Riots, and Civil Commotion (SRCC) model for the United States is the market’s first probabilistic SRCC catastrophe model. Since 2017, SRCC has led to $10bn of insured losses, compared to $1bn for terrorism. Civil unrest in the US recently hit the headlines in Los Angeles. In 2020, SRCC topped $3bn in industry-wide insured losses. A one in 100-year event, in Verisk Maplecroft’s catalogue, would be more than twice as severe. Two guests feature for this special episode in association with Verisk Maplecroft: Sam Haynes, Head of Data and Analytics; and Torbjorn Soltvedt, Associate Director, Global Risk Insight, Verisk Maplecroft.

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6 months ago
30 minutes 3 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Trump tariffs for ASEAN to navigate , with ambassadors Sek Wannamethee & Sir Richard Gozney

The 90-day pause on President Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs is due to expire on 9 July. The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) are among the targets. When a blanket tariff rate of 10% expires, Thai goods will be targeted with a 36% tariff, Indonesian goods at 32%, for instance. Two senior diplomats feature in this ep. Sir Richard Gozney is a retired senior British diplomat, ex-governor of Bermuda, and former ambassador to Nigeria and Indonesia. Sek Wannamethee is a retired senior Thai diplomat, former ambassador for Thailand to Belgium and Luxembourg, and head of the Thai mission to the European Union. His recent article on this topic, published by The Ambassador Partnership, can be found here. https://www.ambassadorllp.com/ap-insights/asean-navigating-through-trumps-tariffs

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6 months ago
31 minutes 7 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Macro Risks & Buying Trends across Credit, Political Risk & PV, with SCOR Business Solutions’ Kayley Stewart & Babak Tavassolie

For the latest episode, two guests feature from SCOR Business Solutions: Kayley Stewart is head of crisis management; and Babak Tavassolie is head analyst of political and credit risk. It’s a wide-ranging conversation, encompassing two geopolitically interrelated but separate specialty insurance lines of business that are at the very core of this pod – political risk and political violence. We discuss the political risks present within previously ‘vanilla’ credit insurance, affecting some buyer motivations and underwriting assumptions; the maturing specialty market for standalone terrorism and political violence, for such emerging threats as sabotage and civil unrest; as well as macro geopolitical risk trends to monitor for 2025 and beyond.

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6 months ago
35 minutes 24 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Responding to challenges in an ever-changing geopolitical landscape – City of London CRO Summit

The City of London Corporation hosted a Chief Risk Officers Summit at the Guildhall on 21 May, including a panel discussion: “Responding to challenges in an ever-changing geopolitical landscape”. Panellists included: Andrew McDougall, Head of Geopolitical Risk, Barclays; Savannah Thompson, Head of Political Risk & Underwriting Development, The Fidelis Partnership; Esperanza Cerdan, Chief Risk Officer, IFM Investors; Jennifer Geary, Chief Risk Officer, Non-Exec & Author, The C-Suite Framework; with host David Benyon asking the questions. Bayes Business School in partnership with the City of London published a report to promote the importance of the CRO role: “Optimising Growth: The Evolving Role of the Chief Risk Officer”. Here’s the link to that paper.

https://www.citystgeorges.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/866715/Bayes-Lord-Mayors-CRO-Report-WEB_Final.pdf

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7 months ago
32 minutes 7 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Special Ep: European PV; Politically Motivated Sabotage; Overseas France SRCC; with LSM’s Björn Reusswig and François Barriol

A special episode, in association with Liberty Specialty Markets, focused on European political violence (PV) risks. Politically motivated sabotage is a huge topic across Europe, amid heightened concerns about hybrid-war and grey-zone threats amid a potentially volatile political backdrop. Strikes Riots and Civil Commotion (SRCC) are the front-and-centre PV risk, particularly given recent civil unrest events within territories of Overseas France. The episode features two leaders of LSM’s European PV business: Björn Reusswig, Regional Line of Business Manager, Terrorism & Contingency, Europe; and François Barriol, France Manager, Deputy Head, Terrorism, Political Violence & Contingency, Europe.

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8 months ago
28 minutes 20 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
100 days of Trump 2.0 – Tariffs in focus, with Airmic’s Alex Frost and Hoe-Yeong Loke

As we hit the first 100 days mark of US President Donald Trump’s second term, no other single word sums up the preoccupation of business leaders around the world better than tariffs. This conversation assesses the impact of the US’s tariffs, particularly on Canada, Mexico and China, and asks how risk professionals and their organisations are responding to the fast-moving shifts in global trade. My guests are Hoe-Yeong Loke, head of research at Airmic, and Alexander Frost, chief markets officer at Airmic.

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8 months ago
34 minutes 14 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Method to Trump’s Madness, with Firas Modad of Modad Geopolitics

Does Donald Trump have a master plan? The White House has sewn chaos in recent days, triggering stock market volatility with on-then-partially-off punitive tariffs globally, speaking softly with Russia, chastising Ukraine, talking openly about annexing neighbouring Greenland and Canada, and sparking an escalating trade war with China. Firas Modad, founder and principal of Modad Geopolitics, a consultancy advising insurance firms and corporate clients, thinks he knows what Trump’s tumultuous strategy is all about.

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9 months ago
33 minutes 12 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
Special Ep: Should the World Fear China? Colonel (ret’d) Zhou Bo & Mosaic’s Finn McGuirk

Zhou Bo, a retired senior colonel in the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, joins Mosaic’s global political risk leader Finn McGuirk, for the latest special episode in association with Mosaic Insurance. Colonel Zhou Bo is a senior fellow at the Center for International Security and Strategy, Tsinghua University, a distinguished fellow of the Global Governance Institution, and a regular PLA speaker at the Munich Security Conference and the IISS Shangri-La Dialogue. The title of his new book, published in March 2025, is perhaps the biggest question of the age, and the subject of this fascinating discussion between these two geopolitical risk experts.

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9 months ago
41 minutes 22 seconds

The Political Risk Podcast
An independent, journalist-run podcast, focused on geopolitics and insurance markets, serving risk professionals and decision makers in specialty insurance, reinsurance, and beyond. The guest list mixes senior underwriters, brokers and CEOs from the world of specialty insurance markets with geopolitics expertise from analysts, authors, diplomats and academics.