In this inspiring episode, Marta Brummell sits down with Liz Anthony to explore the deep lessons that emerged from her journey with lupus. Liz shares how navigating chronic illness in her twenties reshaped her sense of self, gave her a new understanding of strength, and laid the foundation for the kind of leader she’s become—grounded, intentional, and resilient. Together, they talk about what it means to “find yourself” when life doesn’t go as planned, and how adversity can illuminate purpose, presence, and personal power. This conversation is rich with wisdom for anyone learning to lead themselves and others through life’s unpredictable seasons.

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