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The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
300 episodes
10 hours ago
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Entrepreneurship
Business,
Marketing,
Health & Fitness,
Mental Health
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How Joe Thinks Through Private Practice, Business, and Life with Wendy Pitts Reeves | POP 1291
The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
1 hour 3 minutes 27 seconds
2 weeks ago
How Joe Thinks Through Private Practice, Business, and Life with Wendy Pitts Reeves | POP 1291
What if your practice wasn’t an identity to protect, but a tool designed to serve your life? How much stronger could your business become if you built alongside people whose strengths fill your gaps? Who might you become if your worth rested not in productivity, but instead in being fully, authentically yourself?
In this reverse podcast episode, Wendy Pitts interviews Joe Sanok on how he thinks through private practice, business, and life. 
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In This Podcast

* Thoughts on private practice 
* Notes on business 
* Life within both and beyond 

Thoughts on private practice 

I think one of the things for practice owners to think through is, “Why am I starting a practice? Why do I continue a practice? What does that do to serve me?” (Joe Sanok)

For many practice owners, their business is like their baby – a perspective Joe personally dislikes. 
He explains that there may come a time when you need to sell your practice, let it go, or shut it down, which is something you’d never do to your child. 

To me, that’s dysfunctional. We need to say, “[My practice] is a tool that is serving my family. This is a tool that’s serving my future. This is a tool that’s serving my community – how do we have this be the sharpest tool for what I want?” (Joe Sanok) 

Notes on business 
Balance your strengths with the strengths of others. 
When you are building a business, one of the best things that you can do is hire people whose expertise and nature run parallel with yours, who keep you grounded and supported as the CEO, and can offer the business the skills that you don’t have. 
Secondly, Joe mentions the necessity of keeping tabs on your client’s journey. What do they need? When do they need it? Don’t rush ahead of your audience and offer them services or products that they are not asking for. 

Following your customer journey, to me, is very important. Whether it’s your clients or, for us, your listeners, there were times that I tried to do things faster than what I should’ve. (Joe Sanok)

Thirdly, once you do find something that kicks off and goes on well, you need to learn how to keep it going and to maintain that momentum. 
Talk with your audience. Engage with them by letting them sign up to talk to you about their needs and the projects that you are brainstorming to make sure that they match up. 
The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.