Real Skills for Real Life: DBT, AI, and the Future of Emotional Support with Shireen L. Rizvi, PhD and Jesse Finkelstein, PsyD

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The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy

Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday

300 episodes

7 hours ago

Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.

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The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy

35 minutes 51 seconds

5 days ago

Real Skills for Real Life: DBT, AI, and the Future of Emotional Support with Shireen L. Rizvi, PhD and Jesse Finkelstein, PsyD | POP 1297

Can emotional regulation be taught like reading or math? What happens when technology starts offering comfort instead of therapy? How can modalities like DBT evolve without losing their integrity in a world increasingly driven by AI?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok discusses Real Skills for Real Life: DBT, AI, and the Future of Emotional Support with Shireen L. Rizvi, PhD., and Jesse Finkelstein, PsyD.
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Meet Shireen L. Rizvi, PhD

Dr Shireen Rizvi, PhD, ABPP is a licensed clinical psychologist, board-certified in both dialectical behaviour therapy (DBT) and cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT). She earned her BA from Wesleyan University and her MS/PhD in Clinical Psychology from the University of Washington, where she trained with Marsha Linehan, the founder of DBT. With over 25 years of experience, her work spans research, training and clinical services in evidence-based treatments for complex mental-health needs.

Find out more on Shireen’s website.

Meet Jesse Finkelstein, PsyD

Dr. Jesse Finkelstein, PsyD is a clinical psychologist, educator, and the co-founder and Chief Product Officer of TheraHive. He specializes in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and integrates design, illustration, and animation to make behavioral-health skills more accessible. He earned his PsyD from Rutgers University and serves as an Instructor at Columbia University Irving Medical Center. Jesse is also the creator of The Game of Real Life and co-author of Real Skills for Real Life.Visit Therahive and connect with Jesse on Instagram.

In This Podcast

* The evolution of DBT beyond borderline personality disorder
* The intersection between AI, emotional support, and ethical therapy
* Everyday skills for emotional regulation and resilience
* Balancing acceptance and change in a polarized world
* Advice for private practitioners

The evolution of DBT beyond borderline personality disorder
Dr. Rizvi highlights how DBT has evolved far beyond its original use for severe mental h...