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The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
300 episodes
17 hours ago
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Entrepreneurship
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Mental Health
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The Art of Storytelling with Kabie Stein from Here:Say | POP 1288
The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
32 minutes 54 seconds
2 weeks ago
The Art of Storytelling with Kabie Stein from Here:Say | POP 1288
What could it do for your practice if you honed the art of listening? What if the most powerful stories aren’t the dramatic ones, but the ordinary moments we learn to see differently? Which stories do you have that could resonate with people more than you think?
In this podcast episode, Joe Sanok speaks about the art of storytelling with Kabie Stein from Here:Say. 
Podcast Sponsor: Headway







I want to thank Headway for sponsoring this episode. If you run a group practice, you know that accepting insurance can be overwhelming. Between credentialing, billing, and payroll, the admin side can easily take over your week. Headway was built to help you handle this — and they’re the only platform designed specifically for in-network group practices.
Whether you’re growing your team or running an established practice, Headway makes the business side easier with faster credentialing, higher per-session rates, and biweekly payments your team can count on.
They work with therapy, psychiatric, and hybrid groups — and there are no subscription fees. Just the support you need to run your practice with ease.
Run your best group practice with Headway — trusted by thousands of group practice leaders to simplify insurance admin and reach more people through in-network care.
Curious how Headway can work for you? 
Meet Kabie Stein







Kabie Stein is the founder and Creative Director of Here:Say Storytelling in Traverse City, Michigan. She believes everyone has a story worth telling—so she created a space where the hilarious, heartfelt, and even horrifying all get a microphone. With a childhood rooted in word games around the dinner table, Kabie now guides a community of storytellers to share their truths, listen deeply, and find connection in the everyday.
Visit Here:Say and connect on Instagram and LinkedIn.
In This Podcast

* Why storytelling is the focus 
* “What do I have to say?”
* How to make a mundane story interesting 
* Kabie’s advice to private practitioners

Why storytelling is the focus 

You know, it was something that I wanted to exist. I was relatively new to town, I didn’t know anybody when I moved here, and I was thinking, “I want to meet more people. How am I going to meet the writers and the people who I might have things in common with?” (Kabie Stein)

Here:Say later expanded into a community project, but when Kabie first launched it, it was more about her finding a way to connect with like-minded people around her. 

I was like, “Okay, I’ll do it.” I was just something that I wanted to have exist … I said, “Alright, I’ll start it, and I’ll figure it out as I go!” (Kabie Stein)

Kabie landed on storytelling as the central point within Here:Say because she knows that people want to tell their stories, and that they want to be seen and heard in a community that welcomes and affirms them. 
“What do I have to say?”

If somebody says to me, “I don’t have any stories”, I say, “That’s impossible.” The thing is, we all have experiences. The key is you have to believe that it’s interesting, or that it can be, and I think all stories can be interesting. (Kabie Stein)

Everybody has a story.
The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.