On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, host Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Josh Ashworth, vocalist of influential metalcore band Society’s Finest, for a deep and honest conversation about his journey through music and life. Josh reflects on the formation and evolution of Society’s Finest, their role in shaping the late ’90s and early 2000s hardcore and metalcore scene, and what it meant to be part of the Christian and underground music worlds during that era. He shares stories from the road, the creative process behind the band’s most recognized material, and the camaraderie and tension that often came with touring and growing up in a tight-knit scene.
The conversation expands into the realities of the music industry at the time, including the pressures of expectations, label relationships, and the balance between artistic integrity and survival. Josh offers insight into how the scene functioned before social media, when word of mouth, live shows, and community played a central role in a band’s success or longevity. He also discusses how the band’s message and intensity connected with listeners who were searching for honesty and meaning through heavy music.
Josh also opens up about personal struggles, including battles with addiction, identity, and burnout, and how those experiences ultimately reshaped his perspective on life, creativity, and faith. His reflections are raw and unfiltered, shedding light on the human cost that can come with years of touring and high expectations. These moments bring depth and vulnerability to the episode, making it about far more than just music.
Throughout the episode, Josh and Jeremy reflect on legacy—what it means to look back on a band like Society’s Finest years later, how its influence still resonates, and how Josh views that chapter of his life today. Filled with nostalgia, hard-earned wisdom, and thoughtful insight, this episode is a must-listen for fans of heavy music, scene history, and anyone interested in the real stories behind the songs.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser@jaredchasebowser
Music By Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, the conversation features Dave Owens and Ryan Cruickshank from Names Without Numbers, diving into the band’s origins, creative evolution, and renewed momentum. Dave and Ryan share stories about forming the band, the influences that shaped their melodic rock sound, and what it’s been like revisiting and creating music after time away. The discussion also explores their songwriting process, recording experiences, and reflections on longevity, creativity, and staying connected to fans. It’s an honest and nostalgic conversation that highlights the passion behind Names Without Numbers and the enduring pull of making music on your own terms.Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This week on The Rumors Are True, we sit down with acclaimed producer, songwriter, and engineer Matt Squire, whose career has helped shape the sound of modern pop-punk, rock, emo, and mainstream pop. From his early roots in the Washington, D.C. DIY and hardcore scenes to producing chart-topping records for artists like Panic! at the Disco, All Time Low, Underoath, Ariana Grande, and more, Matt’s journey spans underground culture to global success. His path from band member to sought-after producer offers a unique perspective on creativity, collaboration, and longevity in the music industry.
In this conversation, Matt opens up about his beginnings, the key turning points in his career, and how his early scene involvement continues to influence his approach in the studio. He shares insights into producing across multiple genres, the importance of building trust with artists, and how a producer can help bring out an artist’s best work while still honoring their vision. The discussion also dives into songwriting, studio dynamics, and the evolving role of producers in today’s music landscape.
Matt also reflects on how the music industry has changed over the years, from shifts in technology to new ways artists can find success. Whether you’re a musician, producer, or longtime fan of the bands and records he’s worked on, this episode offers an honest, behind-the-scenes look at the craft, challenges, and passion that go into creating lasting music.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we sit down with Jason Dunn, founding vocalist of the iconic pop-punk band Hawk Nelson. Jason takes us back to the band’s early days, sharing how a group of friends from Canada found themselves breaking into the Christian rock scene and quickly becoming a staple of youth group playlists everywhere.
Jason opens up about the whirlwind years of constant touring, major label moments, and the stories behind some of Hawk Nelson’s most beloved songs. He also reflects on the personal and creative challenges that shaped his departure from the band and what life has looked like since stepping away from the spotlight.
From hilarious tour memories to honest conversations about faith, friendship, and artistic identity, this episode offers a thoughtful, nostalgic, and refreshingly candid look at a career that impacted an entire generation of listeners. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation that longtime fans—and anyone who loves a good behind-the-music story—won’t want to miss.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this week’s episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we sit down with Will McGinniss, co-founder and longtime bassist of the iconic band Audio Adrenaline. Will reflects on the early years of the group, the creative energy that fueled their rise, and the evolution of their sound as they became one of the most influential bands in modern Christian rock. He shares personal stories from life on the road, the band’s biggest milestones, and the friendships that shaped their journey.
The conversation also dives into Will’s work with Flicker Records, the groundbreaking label he helped launch. He talks about its mission, the artists they championed, and how the label carved out a space for fresh voices in the alternative Christian music scene. Will discusses the creative risks they took, the industry challenges they navigated, and the spirit of community that made Flicker stand out.
Throughout the episode, Will offers honest reflections on faith, music, mentorship, and legacy. Whether you grew up on Audio Adrenaline or discovered Flicker Records through its standout roster, this episode gives listeners an inside look at the passion and purpose behind some of the era’s most impactful music. Tune in for stories, insights, and a look back at a career that continues to influence artists today.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This week on The Rumors Are True Podcast, we sit down with Andrew Reizuch, whose musical path cuts through some of Southern California’s most unique underground scenes. Andrew talks about his early days in Focused, stepping into the band during a pivotal era and contributing to their evolving sound while navigating the tight-knit world of ’90s hardcore. His reflections give rare insight into what it was like playing in a band that balanced faith, intensity, and community.
From there, Andrew dives into his dramatic musical shift with Le Shok, the chaotic electropunk/post-punk outfit known for its raw energy, provocations, and refusal to play by the rules. He shares stories about the formation of the band, the whirlwind of creativity and tension that defined their short-lived but unforgettable run, and how their approach challenged the expectations of the punk scene at the time. His time with Treadwell also makes an appearance, rounding out the full picture of his diverse musical journey.
Finally, Andrew opens up about working behind the scenes at Revelation Records, offering a perspective that blends the musician’s mindset with the realities of the independent music industry. From label logistics to scene politics to the lessons learned along the way, he brings thoughtful context to what it’s like to move between artist and industry roles. It’s an episode full of history, honesty, and the kind of stories only someone deeply embedded in multiple subcultures can tell.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this week’s episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we sit down with Zak Shultz—musician, songwriter, and all-around scene veteran known for his work with Stairwell, The W’s, and My Red Hot Nightmare, as well as his years behind the scenes at Tooth & Nail Records. Zak shares stories from his early days navigating punk, ska, and alternative music, how each band shaped his creative journey, and what it was really like working at one of the most influential indie labels of the era.
We dig into the highs, the challenges, the unexpected opportunities, and the lessons he picked up along the way. Whether you’re a longtime fan of these bands, a Tooth & Nail deep-diver, or just love hearing the real stories behind the music, this episode is packed with insight, nostalgia, and plenty of fun.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this two-part episode series of The Rumors Are True podcast, host Jeremy Gould welcomes all four members of Dighayzoose — Bil Brown, Dave Anderson, Jimmi Florez, and Phil Schlotterer — for an in-depth and entertaining conversation about one of the most inventive and fearless bands to come out of the early ’90s alternative scene.
Across both episodes, the band reflects on their origins in Kansas City, their time on R.E.X. Records, and the creative chaos that fueled albums like StruggleFish and MagentaMantaLoveTree. They share behind-the-scenes stories from recording sessions and touring days, exploring how their genre-bending blend of funk, punk, rock, and art-school experimentation set them apart from their peers.
The discussion also dives into their spiritual and artistic philosophies, the dynamics between band members, and the legacy of Dighayzoose’s wild, uncompromising vision. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering them for the first time, this two-part series is a must-listen for anyone interested in boundary-pushing music and the creative spirit that defined a generation.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredhasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this upcoming episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, host Jeremy Alan Gould welcomes Michael Williams, frontman of the legendary metal band The Agony Scene, and R.R. Williams for a deep, wide-ranging conversation about music, purpose, and personal evolution. The two guests open up about their early influences, the defining moments that shaped their creative identities, and the struggles that come with staying true to yourself in a constantly shifting music landscape.
Michael shares stories from The Agony Scene’s early days—how the band rose out of the Oklahoma metal and hardcore scene, the challenges of maintaining creative chemistry after years apart, and what it’s been like to reconnect with fans who’ve grown alongside the band. R.R. Williams adds his own perspective on the underground community, discussing the emotional weight of performing, the grind of touring life, and the balance between ambition, art, and faith. Together, they reflect on how their personal experiences—on and off the stage—have shaped not only their sound but also their outlook on life.
Throughout the episode, the conversation moves between laughter and honesty, touching on topics like burnout, reinvention, collaboration, and what it means to evolve without losing the spark that started it all. The guests also tease what’s next—new creative projects, renewed energy, and a shared desire to keep pushing boundaries in their respective work.
Authentic, passionate, and unfiltered, this episode captures the heart of what The Rumors Are True Podcast is all about: the real stories behind the music, told by the people who live it every day. Whether you’re a die-hard fan of The Agony Scene, a musician searching for inspiration, or just someone who loves hearing about the grit and grace behind creativity, this conversation will leave you inspired and ready to turn the volume up.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, host and guest Andy Godwin take a deep dive into his decades-long musical journey through some of the most creative and heavy bands in the underground scene — Embodyment, The Famine, Pyrithion, and Hope Deferred. Andy reflects on the early days of Embodyment’s raw, deathcore beginnings and their bold transition into melodic and alternative territory, offering insight into the creative risks that defined the band’s evolution.
He shares rare stories from the road and studio, discusses the camaraderie and challenges within each band, and explores how his artistic approach has matured over time. Andy also opens up about the themes of faith, struggle, and perseverance that continue to influence his music. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering these bands for the first time, this episode paints a vivid picture of one musician’s passion for pushing boundaries and staying true to his vision in the ever-changing world of heavy music.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this two-part episode series of The Rumors Are True podcast, host Jeremy Gould welcomes all four members of Dighayzoose — Bil Brown, Dave Anderson, Jimmi Florez, and Phil Schlotterer — for an in-depth and entertaining conversation about one of the most inventive and fearless bands to come out of the early ’90s alternative scene.
Across both episodes, the band reflects on their origins in Kansas City, their time on R.E.X. Records, and the creative chaos that fueled albums like StruggleFish and MagentaMantaLoveTree. They share behind-the-scenes stories from recording sessions and touring days, exploring how their genre-bending blend of funk, punk, rock, and art-school experimentation set them apart from their peers.
The discussion also dives into their spiritual and artistic philosophies, the dynamics between band members, and the legacy of Dighayzoose’s wild, uncompromising vision. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering them for the first time, this two-part series is a must-listen for anyone interested in boundary-pushing music and the creative spirit that defined a generation.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredhasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Rob Horner, former bassist for Zao and Gods, to talk about his time in two of the most influential bands in heavy music and the journey that shaped him along the way. Rob reflects on his years with Zao during a pivotal era for the band — a period that helped define the sound and spirit of early metalcore — and shares insights into the writing, touring, and community that surrounded that scene.
The conversation also dives into Rob’s post-Zao project, Gods, exploring how that band grew out of his desire to keep creating meaningful, emotionally honest music. Rob discusses his creative process, the lessons learned from the highs and challenges of life on the road, and what it was like to be part of a scene that still resonates deeply with fans decades later.
With stories about friendship, art, and the evolution of underground heavy music, this episode offers a rare and candid look at one musician’s journey through two important chapters of the genre’s history.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork By Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould welcomes Mikee Bridges — musician, promoter, and creator of TomFest — to talk about his latest project, TomCon: The Other Music Convention. Mikee shares the inspiration behind this brand-new event happening October 24–25, 2025, at the Crowne Plaza in Costa Mesa, California, and how it aims to bring fans and artists together in a whole new way.
Listeners will hear Mikee reflect on his journey through bands like how decades of experience in the Christian alternative and punk scenes have shaped his vision for TomCon. Unlike a traditional music festival, TomCon is designed as a fan convention — complete with panels, Q&A sessions, artist meet-and-greets, photo ops, and live performances — celebrating the stories and community behind the music.
Throughout the conversation, Mikee talks about the heart behind the event, what attendees can expect from the two-day lineup of over 50 artists and 12 panel discussions, and why Costa Mesa is the perfect home for this gathering of fans, musicians, and scene veterans. Whether you were part of the underground music movement of the ’90s or are discovering it for the first time, this episode dives deep into what makes TomCon a truly one-of-a-kind experience.
For full details, artist announcements, and tickets, visit tomconvention.com.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music By Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we welcome Nate Young, drummer of the beloved alternative rock band Anberlin, as well as a driving creative force behind his side project, SUS. Nate takes us through his musical journey, sharing memories from Anberlin’s early days, the band’s rise to international success, and what it’s like to create music that connects deeply with fans across generations. He opens up about the band’s reunion years, how their chemistry has evolved, and the challenges and rewards of balancing life as a touring musician.
We also spend time exploring Nate’s work outside of Anberlin, particularly the artistic vision behind SUS. With this project, he leans into experimentation, crafting soundscapes that allow him to express a different side of his creativity. Nate talks about the freedom of writing and recording in new ways, and how SUS has become an outlet for exploring ideas that don’t always fit within the framework of Anberlin.
This conversation is equal parts nostalgic and forward-looking — offering insight into what it takes to remain passionate about making music over decades, while still pushing into new creative territory. Whether you’re a longtime Anberlin fan or curious to hear about Nate’s newest artistic chapters, this episode is a must-listen.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features a conversation with Chris Higdon, the voice and creative force behind some of the most beloved bands to come out of Louisville, Kentucky, including Elliott, Falling Forward, and his latest project, Mirroless. Chris reflects on the early days of the hardcore and emo scene, tracing how Falling Forward laid the groundwork for Elliott’s expansive and emotionally charged sound that would go on to influence countless bands.
The discussion digs into the stories behind the songs, the friendships and struggles that shaped the music, and what it was like to be part of such a pivotal moment in underground music history. Chris also opens up about his newest work with Mirroless, exploring the ways he continues to challenge himself musically and lyrically. Whether you’ve followed his journey since the ’90s or are just discovering his music, this episode offers an insightful look at the artistry, heart, and longevity of someone who has helped define a genre while always moving forward.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Kevin Campbell from the band Keepwarm joins the conversation for a deep dive into his musical journey. Kevin opens up about the origins of Keepwarm, what inspired their sound, and how the band found its place in a vibrant underground scene. He reflects on the highs and lows of making music during that time and what it was like to collaborate with the friends who helped bring the project to life.
The discussion also touches on the broader context of the era—how bands like Keepwarm carved out their identity, navigated limited resources, and connected with fans in authentic ways. Kevin shares stories from the road, lessons learned in the DIY world, and how his experiences in Keepwarm continue to shape his outlook on creativity and music today.
Whether you’re a longtime fan of Keepwarm or discovering them for the first time, this episode offers a meaningful look back at a unique chapter of independent music. Kevin’s perspective is equal parts nostalgic and inspiring, making it a conversation worth tuning into for anyone who appreciates the passion behind building music that matters.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Stephen Williams, known for his work with the band Jude Moses as well as playing alongside John Mark McMillan. Stephen shares stories from his journey in music, reflecting on his time creating with Jude Moses and how the band developed its unique sound, as well as his experiences touring and collaborating with McMillan. His perspective offers listeners a glimpse into both the creative process and the realities of being part of two different but deeply impactful musical worlds.
In this conversation, Stephen dives into the themes of artistry, community, and the balance between personal expression and collaboration. Whether discussing songwriting, life on the road, or the moments that have shaped his path, his reflections highlight the ways music continues to inspire and connect people. Fans of Jude Moses, John Mark McMillan, or anyone who enjoys hearing the stories behind the music will find this episode full of insight and inspiration.
Produce By Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Dan Koch, known for his work in Sherwood, Havana Swim Club, and as the host of multiple thoughtful podcasts including You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Dan shares stories from his journey in the music world, from his time as guitarist and songwriter in Sherwood to his newer creative explorations in electronic music and production with Havana Swim Club. Along the way, he reflects on how his experiences in the industry have shaped his perspective as both a musician and a creator of meaningful conversations.
Beyond the music, the episode dives into Dan’s passion for podcasts and the unique space he’s built through shows like You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Listeners will get a deeper look at how he bridges creativity, curiosity, and connection across mediums—whether through a catchy melody, a textured beat, or an engaging discussion. It’s an inspiring conversation that highlights Dan’s versatility and his commitment to exploring both art and ideas.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we’re joined by Dave Swanson, best known for his work with Life In Your Way and The Frozen Ocean. Dave shares stories from his time in the Connecticut hardcore/metalcore scene and how Life In Your Way grew to become a band that blended heavy music with heartfelt and faith-driven lyrics. He reflects on the unique journey of the band, their impact within the scene, and what it was like to be part of a community that emphasized passion and authenticity as much as the music itself.
The conversation also dives into his later project, The Frozen Ocean, where Dave explored a more atmospheric and expansive sound that showcased another side of his creativity. He opens up about the transition from the intensity of hardcore to more melodic and ambient songwriting, and how those experiences shaped him both musically and personally. Fans of his bands and those curious about the evolution of underground music will enjoy this deep dive into Dave’s story, his creative process, and the lasting connections that music has built along the way.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features an in-depth conversation with Ben Crist, the voice and songwriter of The Glorious Unseen. Known for crafting raw, atmospheric worship music that spoke to a generation hungry for honesty, Ben shares the story of how the band came together and the heart behind their deeply emotional songs. He talks about the unique balance of creating music that felt authentic both as worship and as art, as well as the challenges of navigating faith, creativity, and personal struggles along the way.
The episode also highlights the impact of their standout releases, including Tonight the Stars Speak and The Hope That Lies in You, albums that gave us unforgettable songs like “Hear Our Prayers,” “Meet Me Where I’m At,” and “Burn in Me.” Ben reflects on what inspired much of this music, the ways it connected with listeners in raw and vulnerable moments, and the lasting influence The Glorious Unseen continues to carry today. Fans of heartfelt storytelling and those who found solace in the band’s music will enjoy hearing Ben’s reflections, behind-the-scenes insights, and thoughts on where life and music have taken him since.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.