The Rural Scoop will bring new ideas, innovative curriculum, and current rural school issues to the table and will highlight what is working in rural communities with guests that are teachers, administrators and educational professionals. Come get the Scoop!
The Rural Scoop will bring new ideas, innovative curriculum, and current rural school issues to the table and will highlight what is working in rural communities with guests that are teachers, administrators and educational professionals. Come get the Scoop!
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Arnold Hillman, a lifelong rural education leader, advocate, and coalition builder whose career spans more than six decades. From his early days as a classroom teacher to his work as a superintendent, intermediate unit executive, and founder of statewide advocacy organizations, Dr. Hillman reflects on what it truly means to serve rural communities.
Dr. Hillman shares deeply personal stories that reveal his “north star” of service, discusses the often-overlooked realities of rural education finance and special education, and offers candid insights into advocacy, legislative testimony, and coalition-building. The conversation also explores his groundbreaking work in distance learning, scholarship pipelines for first-generation students, superintendent searches, and state-level rural education advocacy in both Pennsylvania and South Carolina.
Throughout the episode, Dr. Hillman reminds listeners that rural education is fundamentally about place, people, and relationships—and that policy must fit the community it is meant to serve. The discussion concludes with a powerful reflection on the “rural advantage” and why rural communities continue to shape strong leaders, deep connections, and shared responsibility.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Arnold Hillman
02:52 Early Life and Influences
04:08 Advice for Rural Leaders
05:23 Challenges in Rural Education
09:54 Career in Education and Advocacy
13:59 Special Education and Hidden Costs
16:38 Testimony and Lobbying Experiences
23:23 Starting Bright Futures and Scholarship Programs
30:06 The Importance of Self-Advocacy
30:31 Founding Scores in South Carolina
31:07 Challenges in South Carolina's Education System
32:20 Personal Connections in Rural Education
37:18 Consolidation in Rural Schools
42:36 Early Distance Learning Initiatives
45:21 Superintendent Searches and Leadership
48:56 Current Trends in Rural Education
51:59 The Rural Advantage
54:39 Conclusion and Call to Action
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Dr. Arnold Hillman’s story is a powerful reminder that rural leadership is built on relationships, trust, and a deep understanding of place. From classrooms to capitol buildings, his work demonstrates that meaningful change happens when educators advocate together, honor community identity, and keep students at the center of every decision.
As Dr. Sadorf reminds listeners, rural leaders don’t just manage systems—they steward communities. This episode challenges us to take one small step forward: build a relationship, ask a better question, or advocate more clearly for rural schools. When rural leaders share their stories and lead together, rural education doesn’t just survive—it thrives.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf is joined by Dr. Jason Cummins, Assistant Professor of Educational Leadership at Montana State University and former rural and Indigenous school leader. Together, they explore why culture, language, identity, and wellness are not “add-ons” in rural schools—but the operating system that shapes everything from leadership decisions to student belonging.
Dr. Cummins shares his journey from serving in Indigenous and rural schools to preparing the next generation of school leaders. He unpacks the historical context of schooling for Indigenous communities, the lasting impact of colonization on education systems, and the importance of asset-based, humanizing approaches to leadership and discipline. The conversation also dives into Humanized Education, the framework he co-authored that blends mastery-based, growth-based, and strength-based learning into a practical, research-driven model.
This episode offers powerful insights and concrete practices for rural leaders who want to design schools where students see themselves, feel valued, and are prepared to live meaningful, connected lives in their communities.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to the Rural Scoop
00:50 Meet Dr. Jason Cummings
02:24 The Importance of Community and Education
04:58 Challenges and Perspectives in Rural Education
07:25 Jason's Journey in Education
11:55 Historical Context of Native American Education
19:48 Decolonizing Leadership in Schools
27:25 Misinformed Views on Native Education
28:14 Decolonizing School Leadership
28:29 Funding Sources for Native Education
30:21 Importance of Indigenous Voices in Schools
31:24 Language and Cultural Sensitivity in Education
33:21 Introducing Humanized Education
34:51 Framework of Humanized Education
38:45 Cultural Responsiveness and Discipline
42:20 Preparing Future Educational Leaders
47:44 Commitment and Cultural Humility in Leadership
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This conversation reminds us that effective rural leadership starts with seeing students and communities as whole, capable, and deeply connected to place. Dr. Jason Cummins challenges educators to move beyond compliance, deficit thinking, and one-size-fits-all systems—and instead lead with humility, cultural awareness, and purpose.
When schools honor language, identity, and community knowledge, they become places of belonging rather than extraction. As Dr. Cummins makes clear, humanizing education isn’t about lowering expectations—it’s about designing systems where students can truly thrive. For rural leaders, the work begins by listening, learning, and leading alongside the communities they serve.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, host Dr. Melissa Sadorf is joined by Dennis Walto, Chief External Affairs Officer at Chiricahua Community Health Centers in Cochise County, Arizona. Dennis brings decades of global and U.S. health leadership to the rural borderlands, where he now leads innovative, community-centered healthcare solutions serving nearly one-third of the county’s population.
Together, Melissa and Dennis explore what it takes to deliver equitable healthcare across thousands of rural square miles—where provider shortages, transportation barriers, and limited broadband are everyday realities. Dennis shares how Chiricahua has leaned into integration, mobile health clinics, school partnerships, and grant-funded innovation to reduce missed opportunities for care.
The conversation also draws powerful parallels between rural healthcare and rural education, offering practical takeaways for school leaders around partnerships, workforce pipelines, crisis response, trust-building, and the true meaning of the “rural advantage.”
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
00:46 Meet Dennis wto: From Global Leadership to Rural Healthcare
02:20 Challenges and Innovations in Cochise County Healthcare
05:07 Patient Mix and Healthcare Accessibility
09:16 Innovative Programming and Integration Models
13:57 Addressing Domestic Violence and Healthy Relationships
17:33 Grants and Funding for Rural Health Initiatives
24:18 Recruitment and Retention in Rural Healthcare
27:26 Partnerships with Schools and Community Colleges
30:30 School Partnerships and Sports Physicals
31:32 Crisis Response and COVID-19
34:34 Emergency Response Plans in Schools
35:56 Emotional Intelligence in Clinical Settings
39:22 Mobile Clinics: Healthcare on Wheels
45:17 Building Trust in Rural Healthcare
48:16 Emerging Trends in Rural Health
51:19 Federal Impact on Rural Health
53:12 Future Plans for OW Health Centers
55:10 The Rural Advantage in Healthcare
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This episode underscores a powerful truth: rural challenges demand rural solutions rooted in trust, partnership, and innovation. Dennis Walto’s work at Chiricahua Community Health Centers shows how asset-based thinking, integrated care models, and deep collaboration with schools and community partners can dramatically improve outcomes for families and students alike.
For rural educators and leaders, this conversation offers a compelling reminder that health and learning are inseparable—and that when communities lead together, they truly thrive together.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Steven Johnson, superintendent of Fort Ransom School District in North Dakota and long-time rural education advocate. With five decades of experience—as a rural leader, practitioner, policy translator, and farmer—Steve shares real-world stories of how policy decisions ripple through small communities.
The conversation traces Steve’s work in federal advocacy, the decision his district recently made to suspend operations due to declining enrollment, and why stable funding and protection of vulnerable learners must remain non-negotiable. Steve also reflects on his writing, his love of rural life, and what the “rural advantage” truly means.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:46 Steve's Background and Rural Advocacy
02:48 Challenges in Rural Education
06:28 Understanding Rural Realities
10:24 School District Operations and Challenges
16:14 Federal Education Policies and Rural Impact
28:30 Leadership and Community Engagement
42:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This episode shows rural leadership as both deeply personal and deeply civic. Steve illustrates how advocacy is not abstract—it’s lived in decisions about consolidation, compliance deadlines, teacher hiring, and federal allotments that determine real opportunities for students.
𝐋𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭:
✔ Small systems need predictable and stable resources
✔ Teacher and leadership retention is directly tied to student success
✔ Advocacy is part of the job—not an extra
✔ Rural communities hold leaders accountable because they live among the people they serve
Most of all, Steve reinforces that rural education thrives when honesty, community values, and student-centered decisions remain the filter for leadership.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Cat Hoth and Anne Landers from Junior Achievement of Arizona to explore Money in Motion, a mobile financial-literacy simulation built specifically for rural and tribal communities. This hands-on experience brings budgeting, critical thinking, and real-world decision-making directly to students—from 3rd grade all the way through high school.
Cat and Anne detail how the simulation travels to even the most remote communities to deliver an immersive lesson on managing money, navigating wants vs. needs, planning for adulthood, and understanding future careers. They also share stories of student “aha!” moments, community partnerships, volunteer involvement, workforce implications, and what they hope the long-term impact will be for rural learners.
This episode is a rich look at how one mobile program is sparking real conversations around money, opportunity, and the “rural advantage” of tight-knit communities rallying behind their schools.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to Financial Literacy for Rural Families
02:13 Meet the Experts: Kat and Ann's Journey with Junior Achievement
04:59 The Impact of Hands-On Financial Education
10:28 A Day in the Life: Money in Motion Simulation
18:03 Adapting Financial Literacy for Different Age Groups
26:53 Impact of Financial Literacy Programs on Schools
27:29 Heartwarming Feedback from Schools and Families
29:31 Building on a Strong Foundation
30:44 Long-term Benefits and Strategic Partnerships
33:41 Challenges of Serving Rural and Tribal Communities
39:22 Community Engagement and Volunteer Impact
43:09 Connecting Financial Literacy to Workforce Development
46:15 How to Bring Financial Literacy Programs to Your School
51:01 The Rural Advantage and Final Thoughts
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This episode highlights how immersive, real-world financial literacy can transform the way rural and tribal students understand their futures. Through JA’s Money in Motion, kids practice budgeting, evaluating needs vs. wants, planning for families, and envisioning career paths—all within their own school gym.
Cat and Anne remind us that rural communities have a unique advantage: deep relationships, strong community bonds, and the agility to innovate quickly. When these strengths meet real-world learning experiences, powerful things happen for students.
Whether you’re a rural educator, school leader, or community partner, this conversation offers inspiration and practical insight into bringing relevant, meaningful financial education to your students.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this powerful conversation, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Alissa Hanrahan, principal in Chattooga County Schools (GA), to get real about what school safety actually looks like in rural districts today.
Alissa takes us far beyond hardware, handbooks, and compliance checklists. She opens the door to the daily culture work of safety—emotional intelligence, self-regulation, relationship capital, simple routines, and clear communication that holds when the pressure is highest.
Together, they explore threat assessment practices, mental health realities, crisis-ready routines, partnerships that fill resource gaps, and the emotional load leaders carry long after the event is over. If you're a rural school leader—or love someone who is—this episode is a must-listen.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to Rural School Leadership
01:35 Alyssa Hanrahan's Journey into School Safety
03:36 Building Relationships for School Safety
04:51 Effective School Safety Practices
10:08 Challenges in Rural School Safety
12:13 Addressing Mental Health in Rural Schools
19:09 The Role of Emotional Intelligence in Crisis Management
22:31 Innovative Partnerships for Student Support
26:07 Evolving Understanding of Emotional Intelligence
27:52 Gathering and Acting on Feedback
28:41 Modeling Calm and Clarity for Safety
30:27 Identifying and Mitigating Risks
33:26 Effective Communication During Crises
35:42 Designing and Messaging Drills
37:23 Reunification Plans and Challenges
40:14 Maximizing Safety Dollars
42:35 Indicators of a Safe School Culture
45:06 Emerging Trends and Risks
48:52 The Rural Advantage
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This episode with Alissa Hanrahan offers a grounded, inside look at the real work of school safety in rural communities. Rather than focusing on equipment alone, Alissa pushes us toward the systems and habits that create security long before a crisis—relationships, emotional regulation, clear structures, human-centered partnerships, and honest feedback.
Her message is clear: 𝑹𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒔𝒂𝒇𝒆𝒕𝒚 𝒊𝒔 𝒃𝒖𝒊𝒍𝒕 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒎𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒎𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒔, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒎 𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒔, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒕𝒊𝒗𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒔𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒍𝒆 𝒅𝒂𝒚. 𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒍𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒐𝒖𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒔 𝒊𝒏 𝒓𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒅𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒕𝒔 𝒎𝒂𝒚 𝒃𝒆 𝒍𝒊𝒎𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒅, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒊𝒓 𝒔𝒉𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒈𝒕𝒉, 𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒏𝒖𝒊𝒕𝒚, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒓𝒆𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒍 𝒅𝒆𝒑𝒕𝒉 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒊𝒏 𝒖𝒏𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒄𝒉𝒆𝒅.
If you’re revising your safety plan, leading in a rural place, or supporting someone who is, this conversation is a powerful guide to building a culture that holds on your worst day.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this inspiring episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Beth Benedix, a professor emerita, nonprofit founder, and producer of the documentary North Putnam. Together, they explore the intersection of rural schools, community identity, and the transformative power of storytelling.
Beth shares the surprising journey that led her into filmmaking, how her nonprofit The Castle shaped the documentary’s approach, and why North Putnam School District became the heart of this story. She reflects deeply on rural dynamics, culture building, the importance of relationship-driven education, and why rural communities hold powerful advantages in today’s polarized climate.
Whether you're a rural educator, community leader, or advocate, this conversation offers practical insight, hope, and a blueprint for strengthening school–community partnerships.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
01:38 Meet Beth Benedicts: Educator, Author, and Film Producer
01:49 The Inspiration Behind the Documentary
04:59 Choosing North Putnam: A Case Study Approach
07:12 Beth's Rural Community Experience
10:24 Surprises and Insights from Filming
13:31 Interdependence of Schools and Communities
19:14 Culture Building in Rural Schools
22:24 Defying Deficit Narratives in Rural Education
27:23 Practical Impact and Action Steps
32:34 The Castle's Mission and Partnerships
45:09 Hope for the Future of Rural Education
46:46 The Rural Advantage: Relationships and Community
48:37 Conclusion and Call to Action
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This episode reminds us that rural schools are not isolated institutions—they are community epicenters. Through Beth’s experiences producing North Putnam, we see how intentional relationships, authentic storytelling, and asset-based thinking can shift narratives about rural education.
Listeners are encouraged to take this episode back to their teams and ask:
“What would it look like for our town to show up for its kids in new ways this year?”
Then choose just one step—and begin.
Rural advantage is not geography.
It’s belonging, shared responsibility, and the everyday decision to see each student clearly.
𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐁𝐞𝐭𝐡 & 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐥𝐞:
Beth’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-benedix-48a4948/
The Castle
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thecastlearts/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecastlearts/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.castle.community/
Website: https://www.castlearts.org/
The Stories from North Putnam
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551043263950
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_stories_from_north_putnam/
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Shelly Munoz, STEM Curriculum Coordinator for Brainerd Public Schools, to explore what real, meaningful STEM looks like in a rural community. Shelly shares how her district builds coherent STEM pathways from elementary through high school, creates community-embedded learning, engages families, designs programs around equity, and fosters true systems thinking without relying on huge budgets or flashy gadgets.
From fish anatomy projects on tribal lands, to 3D-printed lures tested with local fishing guides, to welding, aviation, robotics, forestry, digital literacy, and place-based STEM collaborations—Shelly reveals how rural schools can activate the resources they already have to create rigorous, joyful, hands-on learning that connects directly to real careers and community needs.
She also breaks down:
- How to start a STEM program next month with minimal resources
- What mistakes and “flops” look like and how to turn them into growth
- How to bring families into STEM
- Why early exposure matters (especially before Grade 5)
- The power of teacher collaboration as the number-one systems lever
- How rural strengths—creativity, innovation, problem-solving, and heart—create a unique advantage
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Welcome to The Rural Scoop
00:53 Introducing Shelly Munoz, STEM Curriculum Coordinator
02:26 Defining STEM and Addressing Equity in Rural Communities
04:39 Building Coherent STEM Systems and Early Wins
07:04 The Fishing & 3D-Printed Lure Project: Place-Based STEM in Action
08:57 Shelly’s Journey from Classroom Teacher to STEM Leader
12:04 Innovating in Rural Settings and Embracing Lifelong Learning
13:47 Overcoming Resistance and Supporting Teacher Confidence
15:55 Bringing Rigor to Hands-On STEM Learning
18:14 Partnering with Community Organizations and Local Experts
21:00 Recognizing Teachers as the Backbone of STEM Programs
22:48 Navigating Flops, Failures, and Design Iteration
23:57 Starting a STEM Program with Minimal Resources
26:22 Engaging Families Through STEM Nights and Take-Home Kits
30:14 Equity by Design: Ensuring Families Can Participate
31:58 Mapping STEM Pathways from K–12 to Careers
34:44 Building Industry Partnerships for Student Opportunities
38:12 The Importance of Early STEM Exposure Before Grade 5
40:09 Choosing the Most Important System Lever: Teacher Collaboration
41:45 Identifying Who’s Missing in the Room
44:22 If Given $5,000: High-Impact, Place-Based STEM Projects
46:57 Celebrating Teachers and Starting STEM Programs Small
48:36 Shelly’s Definition of the Rural Advantage
50:14 Closing Reflections and How to Connect with Shelly
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This episode highlights how rural communities already have the raw materials—literally and figuratively—to build powerful STEM programs that connect learning to local industries, natural resources, traditions, and opportunities. Shelly Munoz shows that with intentionality, collaboration, and community partnerships, schools can create rigorous, joyful, and equitable STEM experiences without needing enormous budgets.
The conversation encourages listeners to examine:
- Who is (and isn’t) included in STEM
- How place-based prompts could unlock deeper learning
- How to map curiosity to credentials to real local jobs
- How to build pathways that help students return home and reinvest in their communities
Rural advantage isn’t theoretical—it’s hands-on, community-centered, and deeply human. This episode inspires leaders and educators to start exactly where they are and create STEM that grows from the ground their students stand on.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this inspiring episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf welcomes Jayme Braida, principal of Columbus Elementary in Southern Iowa and the 2024 Iowa Elementary Principal of the Year. Jayme shares her deeply personal story — from growing up in a small rural community marked by both strong connections and generational trauma, to leading a school that embodies belonging, purpose, and hope.
Through authenticity and resilience, Jayme illustrates how intentional leadership, community engagement, and a trauma-informed mindset can transform rural education. From her memoir Seen, Heard, Valued: One Child’s Journey from Overlooked to Outstanding to her advocacy for equity, inclusion, and teacher wellbeing, Jayme reminds us that excellence in rural schools isn’t about resources — it’s about relationships.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Welcome to The Rural Scoop
00:48 Introducing Principal Jayme Braida
02:20 Growing Up Rural and Finding Purpose
05:12 Overcoming Trauma and Building Resilience
08:27 The Teacher Who Believed in Me
12:34 Journey from Teacher to Rural Principal
15:40 Returning Home to Serve the Community
18:02 Balancing Leadership and Small-Town Life
20:45 Lessons for New Rural Leaders
23:19 The Challenge of Change and Mindset Shifts
26:48 Building Equity and Representation in Schools
30:07 Addressing Poverty, Trauma, and Resource Gaps
33:41 Funding, Policy, and Rural Realities
36:10 Family Engagement and School as Community Hub
39:28 Creating Positive School Culture with Capturing Kids’ Hearts
42:04 Celebrating Teachers and Building Staff Morale
44:25 Sharing the Story of Rural Excellence
45:42 The Rural Advantage and Closing Reflections
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Jayme Braida’s story is a powerful reminder that leadership in rural schools is both personal and purposeful. Her journey from a child overcoming adversity to an award-winning principal underscores the power of connection, intentionality, and community pride. As Dr. Sadorf concludes, “The rural advantage isn’t just a phrase — it’s a promise.”
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, host Melissa Sadorf sits down with Will Westmoreland, a Missouri farmer, rural storyteller, and founder of The Back 40 — a platform dedicated to elevating rural voices and driving practical solutions for rural communities.
Will shares how his journey from TikTok advocate to national rural organizer led to initiatives like “Save the Heartland”, which brings real rural stories to Washington, D.C. Their conversation dives deep into rural education, healthcare, agricultural policy, and how storytelling can bridge the divide between policy and lived experience.
Together, they explore the importance of advocacy, collaboration, and the power of personal stories to inspire change — while reminding listeners that rural America’s strength lies in its people and their shared commitment to community.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Welcome to The Rural Scoop
00:27 Introducing guest Will Westmoreland, founder of The Back 40
01:15 Will’s background — growing up on his grandparents’ Missouri farm
02:00 The origins of The Back 40 and what inspired it
03:05 Launching a TikTok presence and building a following
04:25 Creating Save the Heartland and its goals
05:32 The three focus areas: healthcare, education, and ag policy
06:47 Challenges facing rural healthcare funding
08:10 How healthcare issues affect rural education
09:22 The impact of voucher programs on small rural schools
10:30 Why advocacy from rural communities matters
11:47 Turning local stories into national awareness
13:12 Preparing to meet with policymakers in Washington, D.C.
14:36 How to tell rural stories that connect with urban policymakers
16:10 The power of personal stories in advocacy
18:03 Future plans: newsletters, local events, and ongoing partnerships
19:24 Encouraging civic participation and community dialogue
20:48 Guidance for new and bipartisan lawmakers
22:15 Why funding education fairly matters
23:47 Creative collaboration between rural and urban schools
26:04 How teacher-sharing and incentives can strengthen rural education
27:56 Linking healthcare access and school vitality
30:10 How healthcare shortages drive migration from rural towns
31:45 The ripple effect on local schools and communities
33:02 Schools as community centers — the heart of rural life
34:28 Supporting rural students entering the workforce
36:00 Handling difficult community conversations
37:20 The importance of storytelling and local role models
39:00 Will’s personal story: debate tournaments and community support
41:18 What ag policy means for rural economies
43:00 Tariffs, trade, and the impact on farmers and food supply
45:20 Why agricultural struggles affect everyone
46:55 Simple steps listeners can take to advocate for rural issues
48:42 Encouraging local leadership and engagement
49:55 How to get involved with Save the Heartland
50:30 Defining the “Rural Advantage”
52:05 Melissa’s closing reflections on rural schools and communities
53:40 Will’s tribute to teachers and his grandmother’s influence
54:30 Closing thanks and podcast sign-off
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This conversation with Will Westmoreland captures the heart of rural America — where community, resilience, and storytelling spark real change. Will’s journey from farmer to advocate reminds us that rural issues aren’t political; they’re personal. Whether it’s saving hospitals, supporting teachers, or strengthening ag economies, progress starts when rural people tell their own stories and work together.
Learn more:
The Back 40: https://www.thebackfortyofficial.com/
Save the Heartland: https://www.savetheheartland.com/
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf talks with Joseph “Sepp” Sprietsma about what it truly means to prepare rural students for the future of work — not just for jobs, but for purpose, belonging, and community impact.
Sepp shares stories from nearly 30 years of experience in Cochise County, Arizona, weaving together insights from education, workforce development, and community partnerships. Together, they explore how rural schools can build bridges between education and industry, align K–14 pathways, and create opportunities that keep talent thriving in local communities.
Listeners will come away with powerful examples of collaboration, frugal innovation, and hope for the future of Arizona’s rural workforce.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Welcome to The Rural Scoop
00:53 Introducing Joseph SEPs, Freema
02:26 Personal Journey and Career Path
04:39 Connecting Education and Community
08:04 Innovative Projects and Partnerships
15:00 Career Pathways and STEM Initiatives
21:25 Leveraging Technology for Career Exploration
26:41 Economic Development and Community Collaboration
30:07 The Power of Cross-Sector Collaboration
30:41 Launching the Cochise County Healthcare Workforce Community Forum
31:08 Success Stories and Student Engagement
33:39 Challenges in Rural Education
34:45 Building Career Pathways in Rural Schools
36:30 The Importance of Community and Connection
38:01 Policy and Practice for Rural Schools
43:18 The Role of Data and Broadband in Rural Education
47:48 Hope and Innovation in Rural Communities
50:24 Conclusion: The Rural Advantage
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
This conversation highlights how intentional alignment between education, industry, and community can redefine the rural advantage. As Dr. Sadorf reflects, career pathways aren’t just about workforce pipelines—they’re about dignity, belonging, and helping students see themselves as part of their community’s future.
Through Sepp’s stories of collaboration and innovation, we’re reminded that rural communities thrive when they invest in their people, build from their strengths, and lead with care and creativity.
Episode Summary:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with education leader Monica Gilfillan to explore how rural schools can embrace artificial intelligence in a safe, ethical, and community-centered way. Monica, a former special education teacher turned edtech innovator, shares practical strategies for implementing AI that strengthen — not replace — the human relationships that define rural education.
Together, they discuss the concept of “walled gardens” for data safety, the importance of shared governance and teacher involvement, and how AI can ease educator workload while promoting creativity, personalization, and engagement. Monica also highlights real examples of community-driven AI initiatives and offers inspiring advice for rural leaders ready to take their first steps into the world of AI.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to AI in Rural Schools
01:52 Meet Monica Gillin: From Educator to AI Advocate
03:01 Safety First: Implementing AI with Guardrails
04:28 Practical AI Integration: Reducing Teacher Burden
07:25 Ethical AI Use: Questions Educators Should Ask
09:02 AI as a Thought Partner: Enhancing Teacher Creativity
12:32 Family and Community Engagement with AI
16:34 AI Tools for Efficiency in Rural Schools
18:35 Building a Shared Vision for AI Use
26:17 The Rural Advantage: Relationships and Community
29:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Closing Summary:
This episode reminds us that technology should never replace the heart of rural education—it should strengthen it. Monica Gilfillan shows how rural schools can lead with safety, collaboration, and compassion when adopting AI. By keeping relationships at the center and giving educators, families, and students a shared voice, rural communities can turn AI into a bridge between innovation and belonging.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Cari Warnock, Senior Consultant at CDW, whose journey from cowgirl to corporate is as inspiring as it is grounded in the spirit of rural America. From her beginnings on a family ranch to leading multimillion-dollar education projects, Cari shares how grit, authenticity, and a deep commitment to community have shaped her life and leadership.
Listeners will hear her reflections on identity, resilience, mentorship, and the powerful “place, space, and face” philosophy that defines how she connects with others. Cari also offers practical advice for educators on grant writing, AI integration, and empowering women in STEM — reminding us that rural leadership is rooted in courage, connection, and the belief that every student deserves opportunity.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
01:39 Carrie Warnock's Early Life and Lessons from Rural Upbringing
04:00 Overcoming Adversity: From Victim to Victor
05:56 Empathy and Leadership in Education
07:12 Respecting Diverse Identities in Rural Schools
12:00 Transitioning from Education to Corporate
14:13 Building Partnerships and Securing Grants
24:23 Empowering Women in STEM and Leadership
27:24 Embrace Learning and Take Bold Steps
28:08 Mentors Who Shaped My Leadership
30:13 Best Advice: Lean In and Never Stop
31:41 Supporting Rural Leaders with Emerging Technology
36:56 Practical Steps for Using AI in Education
39:23 Free Resources for Rural Schools
41:56 Pride in Rural Community Achievements
45:37 Reflecting on My Journey and Future
47:58 The Rural Advantage: Grit and Connection
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Cari Warnock’s story reminds us that leadership begins with heart. Her journey—from rural roots to national impact—demonstrates the strength of perseverance, empathy, and authenticity. Through her work in grants, technology, and mentorship, Cari champions the belief that rural schools are not behind — they are uniquely ahead in community, courage, and care.
As Dr. Sadorf closes, she reminds listeners that the rural advantage isn’t geography — it’s grit, connection, and shared purpose.
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𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this heartfelt solo episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf reflects on why rural education is worth fighting for. Drawing from decades of experience as a teacher, principal, and superintendent, she shares personal stories, leadership lessons, and the unique strengths that make rural communities resilient. Dr. Sadorf highlights the “rural advantage” — the sense of belonging, ingenuity, and heart that sustain schools and communities despite limited resources. This episode is a reminder that rural education is not just work — it’s legacy.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Episode
01:16 The Challenges and Rewards of Rural Education
02:02 Defining Rural Identity and Community
03:36 The Many Hats of Rural Leaders
05:10 Personal Stories and Connections
07:03 The Essence of Rural Leadership
11:57 Innovations and Adaptations in Rural Schools
14:34 Reflecting on the Importance of Rural Education
15:19 Conclusion and Call to Action
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Dr. Sadorf closes with a message of gratitude for everyone committed to rural education. She reminds us that rural work isn’t small—it’s foundational, shaping the future of communities and generations of students. By showing up with heart and resilience, rural educators and leaders create legacies of connection, innovation, and belonging. The rural advantage lies in leading together—and when we do, we thrive together.
𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Kirby Rabalais, founder of Got4titude, a coaching and community program designed to support fathers raising children with special needs. While moms are often the focus of support systems, dads frequently walk this journey in silence. Kirby shares his personal story of his son’s rare genetic diagnosis, the struggles and resilience his family has built along the way, and how he turned pain into purpose by creating a lifeline for other fathers.
This heartfelt conversation explores themes of masculinity, resilience, self-care, and redefining fatherhood in the face of challenges. Whether you’re a parent, an educator, or part of a rural community, Kirby’s story offers inspiration and practical wisdom for building strength through connection.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
01:04 Meet Kirby Rabalais: Founder of Got4titude
02:11 Kirby's Personal Journey and the Birth of Got4titude
05:22 The Diagnosis and Its Impact
09:25 Redefining Fatherhood and Masculinity
17:27 Strategies for Support and Resilience
22:50 Building a Community for Fathers
25:44 Introduction to the Four Pillars
26:04 Challenges and Commonalities Among Fathers
27:19 Learning and Inspiration from Other Fathers
28:24 Advocating for Yourself and Your Child
32:59 Advice for New Fathers
35:55 Self-Care and Balancing Responsibilities
39:05 Future Vision and Measuring Success
42:49 Resources and Community Support
45:19 Final Thoughts and Reflections
𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐆𝐨𝐭𝟒𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐝𝐞:
Got4titude was born out of lived experience. After receiving his son’s rare genetic diagnosis, founder Kirby Rabalais was thrown into the emotional and logistical storm that so many parents of children with disabilities know too well. In the middle of shock, isolation, and endless questions, he realized one truth: there were almost no resources built specifically for fathers.
Instead of staying silent, Kirby decided to build what he wished he had—a place for dads to find clarity, connection, and strength. That’s how Got4titude came to life: a mission-driven community that helps fathers navigate the unpredictable road of raising children with disabilities. Through raw conversations, coaching, and practical tools, Got4titude is redefining what support looks like for dads who often feel overlooked.
𝑲𝒊𝒓𝒃𝒚’𝒔 𝒎𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒔𝒊𝒎𝒑𝒍𝒆: 𝒏𝒐 𝒇𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒘𝒂𝒍𝒌 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒐𝒂𝒅 𝒂𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒆.
- Learn more: www.got4titude.com
- Join the Inner Circle: https://www.got4titude.com/inner-circle
- Download the Fathers' Survival Toolkit (no cost): https://www.got4titude.com/store/p/fatherssurvivalkit-5dfzp-yhrcj
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Kirby Rabalais’s journey reminds us that resilience is built not in isolation, but in connection. Through Got4titude, he’s creating a safe space where fathers of children with special needs can find courage, redefine masculinity, and learn to celebrate inchstones. His story is one of hope, healing, and advocacy—and it challenges us all to build stronger communities where no parent has to walk this path alone.
Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Andy Mink, Director of the Smithsonian Rural Initiative, to explore how the Smithsonian is extending its reach into rural communities across the United States. From traveling exhibits like Museum on Main Street to innovative partnerships with schools, libraries, and local organizations, Andy shares how the Smithsonian is reimagining itself as a true public service institution.
Together, they discuss rural priorities identified through nationwide research, how communities can access Smithsonian resources, and the importance of place-based learning and storytelling. This conversation highlights the resilience, creativity, and deep connections that define rural life—and how cultural institutions can amplify those strengths on a national stage.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to the Smithsonian Rural Initiative
01:35 Meet Andy Mink: Director of the Smithsonian Rural Initiative
01:42 Andy Mink's Rural Background and Vision
02:58 Reimagining the Smithsonian's Role in Rural America
03:45 Defining Rurality and Its Importance
05:25 The Smithsonian's Approach to Rural Partnerships
08:18 Key Priorities for Rural America
13:42 Community Engagement and Success Stories
22:59 How to Get Involved with the Smithsonian Rural Initiative
28:24 Challenges and Opportunities in Rural Education
40:08 Future Directions and Final Thoughts
41:52 Lighthearted Q&A with Andy Mink
48:12 Conclusion and Call to Action
Closing Summary:
This episode shows how the Smithsonian is breaking down barriers and bringing world-class cultural and educational resources directly to rural America. Andy Mink reminds us that rural communities are not defined by their challenges, but by their assets, stories, and deep connections to place. By elevating rural voices on a national stage, the Smithsonian Rural Initiative helps communities preserve their past, prepare for the future, and showcase the true rural advantage.
Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Devon Brenner, President of the National Rural Education Association (NREA) and Director of the Rural Education Research and Initiatives Lab at Mississippi State University. Together, they dive into the challenges and opportunities shaping rural education today — from teacher recruitment and retention, to building stronger rural teacher prep programs, to the role of policy in sustaining thriving rural communities.
Dr. Brenner reflects on her NREA presidency, previews the upcoming National Forum to Advance Rural Education (NFARE), and shares her groundbreaking work on NSF-funded projects that address rural STEM teacher preparation and rural student belonging in higher education. They also explore her book Teaching in Rural Places and the unique role of rural educators in their schools and communities.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Devin Brenner
01:39 Dr. Brenner's Role and Contributions
02:39 NREA Presidency Highlights
05:48 Challenges and Stances in Rural Education
07:53 Upcoming NREA Conference
10:15 Mississippi State's Rural Education Initiatives
12:25 Collaborations Across Institutions
15:17 NSF Noyce Collaboration
20:30 Rising Network and Belonging in Rural STEM
27:05 Mississippi Education Policy Fellowship Program
32:12 Research to Practice Questions for Rural Leaders
36:24 Teaching in Rural Places
40:37 Future Directions and Rural Advantage
43:36 Conclusion and Call to Action
Closing Summary:
Dr. Devon Brenner highlights the resilience, diversity, and deep community ties that define rural education. From national policy advocacy to local partnerships, her work emphasizes that rural schools are not just places of learning — they are the heartbeat of their communities. As her NREA presidency winds down, she calls on rural leaders, educators, and higher education institutions to strengthen teacher pipelines, foster belonging for rural students, and continue building networks that sustain rural schools.
Listeners are encouraged to take practical steps: create rural teacher residencies, co-design practicums, invite local employers to career nights, and bring teams to NFARE to collaborate on solutions. The future of rural education, as Dr. Brenner reminds us, is bright — because of the people and communities at its core.
Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Bronwyn Ragan-Martin, Deputy Superintendent at the Georgia Department of Education and leader of the nation’s first Office of Rural Education and Innovation. With nearly 35 years of experience in public education and a background as superintendent in Early County, Dr. Ragan-Martin shares her inspiring leadership journey, the challenges and triumphs of rural schools, and Georgia’s innovative strategies to strengthen teacher recruitment, expand access, and support student success.
Listeners will gain insights into how rural communities can leverage resilience, partnerships, and innovation to shape the future of education—not just in Georgia, but across the nation.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
01:51 Dr. Bronwyn Reagan's Leadership Journey
04:55 Impact of Rural Background on State-Level Decisions
07:01 Challenges and Innovations at the State Level
11:46 Defining and Addressing Rural Needs
16:13 Current Initiatives and Exciting Projects
22:01 Teacher Recruitment and Retention Strategies
25:31 Community Engagement and Partnerships
27:37 Nurturing Innovation in Rural Schools
33:26 National Influence and Future Vision
37:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Closing Summary
Dr. Bronwyn Ragan-Martin’s story underscores the power of innovation, persistence, and community in shaping the future of rural education. From groundbreaking teacher apprenticeship programs to expanding digital connectivity, her leadership is ensuring that rural schools are not just included in the conversation, but are leading it.
As Dr. Sadorf reminds us, when rural voices are centered and empowered, we all rise together.
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Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Bill Chapman, Superintendent of London ISD in Texas and President-Elect of the National Rural Education Association (NREA). From his early days as a teacher and coach to leading districts and shaping national policy, Dr. Chapman shares his journey through rural education leadership.
He discusses the unique challenges facing rural schools, the importance of advocacy at both the state and federal levels, and how personal connections influence leadership. The conversation highlights resilience, innovation, and the “rural advantage” that shapes students’ lives and opportunities.
Whether you’re a rural educator, community leader, or advocate, this episode offers practical insights into building relationships, navigating policy changes, and leading with balance and purpose.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Bill Chapman
01:46 Dr. Chapman's Early Career in Education
03:09 Transition to Administration
05:37 Leadership Roles and Achievements
11:35 Returning to London ISD
16:54 Challenges in Texas Education Policy
26:24 Key Issues in Rural Education Advocacy
27:36 Navigating the Complexities of School Funding
29:28 The Importance of Building Relationships in Advocacy
34:58 Challenges and Innovations in Rural Leadership
39:43 Building Trust and Relationships as a Rural Leader
42:40 Advice for New Superintendents
45:35 Goals for NREA Presidency
48:02 The Rural Advantage
Closing Summary:
Dr. Bill Chapman reminds us that rural leadership is as much about relationships and visibility as it is about vision and policy. His journey shows how resilience, community ties, and advocacy at every level help rural schools thrive, even amid rapid change and legislative challenges. As he prepares to take on the role of NREA President, his commitment to strengthening rural voices and expanding opportunities stands as an inspiring model for leaders everywhere.
If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to like, rate, and subscribe to The Rural Scoop wherever you get your podcasts — and share it with a friend who cares about the future of rural education.
Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Krista Leh, CEO of Resonance Ed and nationally recognized SEL consultant, to explore how social and emotional learning (SEL) can be woven into the daily life of schools—especially in rural communities. Krista shares her journey from high school social studies teacher to SEL leader, her philosophy that SEL is “not a program, it’s who we are,” and practical ways educators can integrate SEL without adding to their workload. From conducting SEL audits to fostering community-driven practices, Krista provides actionable strategies to help educators and leaders support both student and staff wellbeing.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to the Rural Scoop
01:52 Meet Crystal Lay: From Teacher to CEO
04:24 The Importance of SEL in Education
06:02 Integrating SEL in Schools
10:34 SEL Audits and Coaching in Rural Schools
20:06 Challenges and Strategies for SEL Implementation
22:35 Supporting Educators' Wellbeing
25:07 Fostering Collaboration and Co-Creation
29:58 Advice for Rural Educational Leaders
34:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Resources:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-leh/
Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/resonance_ed/
Closing Summary:
This conversation with Krista Leh underscores that SEL is not an “extra” on a teacher’s plate—it’s the plate itself. By integrating social and emotional skills into every aspect of school life, educators can create stronger connections, improve student engagement, and sustain staff wellbeing. Krista’s message is clear: SEL works best when it’s authentic, embedded in daily routines, and reflective of the community’s unique identity. In rural settings, where relationships and community bonds run deep, SEL becomes a powerful tool for building the resilience and agency our students need to thrive.