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The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Springs in the Desert | Catholic Infertility Ministry
207 episodes
6 days ago
Welcome! We’re glad you found us, because we’re those friends you can take with you—wherever you are on the path of infertility. At Springs, we know that infertility is a heavy cross. But as Catholics, we believe that by keeping our focus on Christ, we can come through this season of waiting stronger in faith and love—no matter what happens. So each week, we’ll bring you a conversation that gets to the heart of the infertility experience – including primary/secondary infertility, miscarriage/loss, childlessness, and more. It is an honor to walk with you! Visit us: www.springsinthedesert.org
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Welcome! We’re glad you found us, because we’re those friends you can take with you—wherever you are on the path of infertility. At Springs, we know that infertility is a heavy cross. But as Catholics, we believe that by keeping our focus on Christ, we can come through this season of waiting stronger in faith and love—no matter what happens. So each week, we’ll bring you a conversation that gets to the heart of the infertility experience – including primary/secondary infertility, miscarriage/loss, childlessness, and more. It is an honor to walk with you! Visit us: www.springsinthedesert.org
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The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Take This to Heart

As we prepare to step into the New Year, Ann and Cassandra take a look back on our theme for 2025, “Your Marriage has a Mission,” and dig into our new theme for 2026, “Take It to Heart.”


We’ll talk about:

– the witness of our marriages on the path of infertility

– how we can embrace big missions, but also those smaller, everyday, but still beautiful missions in this season

– how we’re inviting this community to take God’s infinite love to heart in the New Year


Thank you so much for listening and for your continuing support. It is an honor to walk with you!


Links

Support Springs and this podcast!

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6 days ago
22 minutes 5 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Understanding Spiritual Motherhood w/ Fr. Joseph Aytona, CPM

Blessed Christmas Eve to all! As we await our Savior’s birth this Christmas, we’re welcoming Fr. Joseph Aytona, CPM of the Fathers of Mercy to the podcast.

Fr. Aytona shares about the Spiritual Motherhood Sodality and helps us to better understand a topic that, while so important, can also be hard to wrestle with on the path of infertility. 


We’ll talk to Fr. Aytona about:

  • woman’s longing for her maternal mission, and how we are all called to help others grow in grace.
  • how our Blessed Mother truly understands what we’re going through!
  • the importance of praying for priests, and how it can be a beautiful expression of spiritual motherhood.


We hope you’ll find Fr. Aytona’s message of grace, hope and mercy to be a comfort to you this Christmas!


Links:

Fathers of Mercy

Spiritual Motherhood Sodality

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1 week ago
26 minutes 21 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Writing the Book on Infertility w/ Leigh Snead

How can we find fulfillment when we can’t conceive? Today we’re welcoming Leigh Snead, Fellow of the Catholic Association and co-host of Conversations with Consequences, back to the pod to preview her upcoming book, Infertile but Fruitful: Finding Fulfillment When You Can't Conceive (Sophia Institute Press, 2026).


We’ll talk with Leigh about:

– why it was important to include different infertility perspectives in her book.

– the continually changing infertility conversation.

– her advice for Catholic brides who are really struggling with the experience of infertility.


Links:

Infertile but Fruitful (Sophia Institute Press)


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2 weeks ago
25 minutes 50 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
When You Feel Tired of Waiting w/ Lisa Martinez

Have you ever felt tired of waiting in a season of infertility or loss?

Today we welcome our dear friend Lisa Martinez back to the podcast for an honest talk that is perfect for Advent. She shares from the heart about:

–How we should think about frustrations and obstacles on the path of infertility.

–The parallels we can draw between waiting for Christ's birth and waiting for a baby.

–Why we should make an offering to God of everything that we're going through.

This Advent, remember that God loves you so much, and so do we!


Links:

Little with Great Love

Seven Sorrows Chaplet Gift Set

Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence

At the Altar | Elevation Rhythm


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3 weeks ago
39 minutes 39 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Living in God’s Love this Advent w/ Lindy Wynne

How can we live this Advent with purpose so that God can bring about conversion and transformation in our lives? How is God asking us to say “yes” to Him today?

Today we’re welcoming Lindy Wynne from Mamas in Spirit to the podcast as we enter, as a Church, into the “season of waiting” of Advent. Lindy tells her story of marriage, adoption, and the ways she has been given the grace to say “yes” to God in different seasons.

We’ll talk about:

  • Holding onto God because there’s nothing else to hold onto.
  • Encouragement for when we feel like we want “more” than “just” spiritual motherhood and fatherhood.
  • How God is redeeming the sense of emptiness that we may feel, especially around the holidays.


Links:

Mamas in Spirit


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1 month ago
45 minutes 32 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Dealing with Insensitive Comments in a Season of Infertility w/ Edward Luersman, MA, LPCC

Sometimes in a season of infertility/loss, we find ourselves dealing with insensitive comments or needing to establish a boundary with family members or friends.

Balancing self-care and charity can be difficult, so we wanted to have this conversation with Edward before the holidays!

In this episode, we'll talk about:

  • Advice for those on the receiving end of an insensitive comment or prying question.
  • How we can draw boundaries and defend ourselves in these situations while also defusing the conflict.
  • How couples can take steps to charitably address these issues so that relationships can be salvaged.

Remember, we are here with you this holiday season!


Links:

Blessed Are They Counseling

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1 month ago
23 minutes 52 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Praying the Psalter this Advent w/ Fr. Paul

Why is it important for us to prepare for the coming of Christ at Christmas? How can we experience the “fullness of time” of this season as we prepare for the incarnate Lord to come into the world?

In this episode, Ann speaks with Fr. Paul about the Psalms as we get ready to pray the Psalter together this Advent as a community. They’ll discuss:

  • The origin of the Psalms and their spiritual importance.
  • How the Psalms can be both personal and communal prayers.
  • Why praying the Psalter can be so good for us on the path of infertility and loss.


Psalter Links:

Fr. Paul's pick: The Psalter (Pocket Edition)

Alissa's pick: A Psalter for Prayer

Ann's pick: Songs of Praise: A Psalter Devotional for Orthodox Women


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1 month ago
31 minutes 23 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Calvary Cemetery’s Infant Burial Ministry w/ Krissy Hamilton

Krissy Hamilton, director of Calvary Cemetery in Tulsa, OK, joins us on the podcast today to tell us about Calvary’s Infant Burial Ministry.

For couples in eastern Oklahoma, this beautiful ministry is able to donate the burial space and opening and closing the grave to grieving parents who are burying their child.

In this episode, Krissy gives us:

  • advice for parents who need to find a place to bury their baby.
  • reassurance that those working at Catholic cemeteries are there to help grieving parents.
  • steps for cemetery directors to take to establish Infant Burial Ministries of their own.


As we remember the souls of the faithful departed this November, we are here with you.


Links:

Calvary Cemetery Infant Burial Ministry

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1 month ago
20 minutes 55 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
The Grief of Infertility

How are you dealing with infertility grief? Have you been able to come to a place where that grief can be acknowledged?

In this episode, Ann and Cassandra explore the unique grief of infertility. We'll talk about:

  • How emotions like jealousy and anger can come under the umbrella of grief
  • The value of learning from other people's experiences of infertility, including primary/secondary infertility and miscarriage
  • The beautiful fruit that can be drawn out of grief


Springs in the Desert offers peer-based support to those struggling with infertility and pregnancy loss. It does not provide medical services, psychological counseling, or therapy. This information should not replace professional medical and psychological services. Find trusted grief coaches, counselors, and spiritual directors on our website.

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2 months ago
34 minutes 57 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Where Grief Meets Grace w/ Margalita Poletunow, LPC

As we wrap up Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, we're bringing Margalita Poletunow, LPC on the podcast for an encouraging episode that will touch your heart.

No matter where you are on the path of infertility/loss, you'll take away from this episode:

  • The difference between grief coaching and therapy
  • The fact that "God sees you whole" – even when you're struggling with infertility/loss
  • The message that you are a beloved daughter (or son!) of the Most High


Please share this episode with anyone who needs that reminder on the path of infertility!


Links:

Where Grief Meets Grace: Grief Coaching w/ Margalita Poletunow, LPC

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2 months ago
27 minutes 25 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
St. John Paul II's Rule for a Joy-filled Marriage w/ Peter and Theresa Martin

Happy feast day of Pope St. John Paul II!

To celebrate, we have two very special guests on the podcast today: Peter and Theresa Martin of the Wojtyła Community & Institute, authors of The Rule: St. John Paul II's Rule for a Joy-filled Marriage of Divine Love.

In this episode, we'll chat about:

  • How infertility has informed the Wojtyła Community's married couple groups from the very beginning
  • How Theresa and Peter "found" JPII's rule for married couples and how their groups are living it out
  • How your marriage is complete, no matter the size of your family


Links:

Wojtyła Community & Institute

Starting a Married Couple Group

The Rule: St. John Paul II's Rule for a Joy-filled Marriage of Divine Love


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2 months ago
32 minutes 7 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
When Your Daughter Experiences Miscarriage w/ Jocelyn Abyad and Patricia Estes

Jocelyn and Pat, the mom & daughter team behind We Carry You Still, join us on the podcast today to talk about:

  • The experience of miscarriage grief
  • Why it can be helpful to share stories of loss
  • How to accompany your daughter (or daughter-in-law) and her husband when suffering through a miscarriage
  • Their miscarriage and infant loss ministry, We Carry You Still


It is our honor to walk with you this Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month.


Links:

We Carry You Still

Heaven's Gain Ministries



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2 months ago
23 minutes 39 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Miscarriage Burial Options w/ Chaney Mullins Gooley

It is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, and so today we're having a tough but important conversation with Chaney from Heaven's Gain Ministries.

We'll be talking about:

  • The disenfranchised grief of infant loss during pregnancy
  • Collection options at home and at the hospital for burial
  • Memorializing babies who have passed away
  • How parishes can help couples experiencing a miscarriage
  • Encouragement for couples who were not able to bury their baby


If you have suffered the traumatic loss of your baby during pregnancy: "Your grief is valid, your story is valid, and we want to be here for you."

God loves you, and so do we.


Links:

Heaven's Gain Ministries

Heaven's Gain Hotline: 513-888-4200

Ministries, Counseling, and Spiritual Direction Links

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2 months ago
24 minutes 3 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Walking St. Thérèse's Little Way

Happy feast of St. Thérèse of Lisieux! This episode is a "rose" to take with you today as we reflect on this great saint and her "little way" of growing closer to Jesus.

St. Thérèse received particular graces from God in her life that helped her reach an incredible level of holiness. Even though she lived within the walls of a Carmelite convent, she is the patron saint of missionaries and is even a Doctor of the Church. Her sanctity, sweetness, simplicity, virginity, and vocation to the religious life may make it hard to relate to St. Thérèse at first – especially when we're feeling the weight of the cross of infertility and its effect on our marriages. But there is so much we can learn from this saint even though our lives may look very different from hers.

Will you let St. Thérèse send you a "rose" today?


Links:

"The Hidden Gift of Hidden Suffering" blog post

I Believe in Love (personal retreat book)

Aleteia article on married saints

Just for TodayCompiled and translated from the writings of Saint Thérèse with selections from the Imitation of Christ


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3 months ago
14 minutes 2 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Homemaking in a Season of Infertility

Have you ever felt called to be a homemaker, but feel like you can't because of your family size, financial situation, or concern about judgment from others? This episode is for you!

Two old and dear friends of the ministry, Andrea and Allie, join Cassandra on the podcast today to talk about:

  • What homemaking looks like for a family of two
  • How to discern the decision to stay home
  • How Andrea and Allie have found healing of infertility grief through homemaking, and
  • How to bring a little more homemaking into the home—even if you are not currently in a place to leave your job!


Links:

Visitation of Hearts Spiritual Direction (with Andrea)

Embracing Homemaking in Infertility (by Allie)

SpiritualMaternity.org

Participating (Sharing) in Mary’s Spiritual Motherhood and Spiritual Children






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3 months ago
29 minutes 33 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Starting a Small Group for Infertility Accompaniment

Have you ever wished that there was a Catholic small group for infertility accompaniment in your area? Well, this podcast episode is for you!

Our Small Groups Coordinator, Cadie Krivoniak, joins Cassandra on the pod to talk about her experience participating in Springs' very first pilot small group.

Cadie talks about how you can start a small group in your area, and what to do if you would love to participate in a small group but don't feel up to facilitating yourself.

It is our honor to walk with our small groups facilitators and participants!


Links:

Springs in the Desert Small Groups

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3 months ago
19 minutes 7 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
How We Walk with YOU on the Path of Infertility & Loss

Happy Birthday Springs! Our founders Ann and Kimberly join Cassandra on the podcast today to tell the story of how Springs came to be and how much it has grown.

God has blessed this ministry so abundantly! By His grace, here are the resources we are able to offer today:

  • Weekly podcast episodes (on two separate podcasts!)
  • Blog posts
  • In-person retreats
  • In-person and virtual small groups
  • Weekly Well prayer email
  • Monthly encouraging email newsletter
  • Resources for couples, pastoral ministers, and healthcare providers
  • Women at the Well virtual prayer meetings
  • ... and more!


If you would like to support our work with a Founding Day gift, please visit our website!

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3 months ago
30 minutes 19 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
How Can We Educate Our Priests About Infertility?

Kenn Cramer, Director of Family and Respect Life for the Diocese of Manchester, NH, joins Cassandra on the pod this week.

Kenn shares about the experience of planning a clergy workshop focused on the sensitive topics of infertility and loss.

He also gives an impactful overview of the importance of ministering to men, and what priests – and wives – should know about how husbands experience infertility grief.

If you are a diocesan family life director, Springs in the Desert is here for you! Contact us about scheduling a workshop for priests, deacons, and/or seminarians today.


Links:

Eileen Tully | Sursum Corda

Ministries, Counseling, & Spiritual Direction



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4 months ago
21 minutes 2 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Infertility Is Not the Mission

"What do we do if we don't have children?"

If this is a question you've wondered about in a season of infertility, this episode is for you! Springs contributors Ellie and Trey Weaver join Cassandra for another great episode on our theme, "Your Marriage Has a Mission."

The Weavers used to feel like they weren't sure about the mission of their marriage – but today they have come to embrace the abundant opportunities that God has put in their path!

This episode is filled with encouragement on embracing God's invitation to give life in a season of infertility. Infertility is not the mission of your marriage, and it does not define you! Your gifts are necessary for the Church. How will you use them to give life today?


Links:

Broken Arrow OK retreat registration

Richmond VA retreat registration

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4 months ago
27 minutes 25 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
On a Mission Together w/Keith and Ann Koshute

This week Ann welcomes very special guest Keith, her bestfriend and husband of 14 years. Ann and Keith talk about their experience of infertility early in marriage, how things have changed since then, and the ways God is calling them to be fruitful in surprising and fulfilling ways.

Keith is the “behind-the-scenes” support for Ann in ministry, but this isn’t his first appearance on the podcast! Dive into the archives and go way back to 2020 to hear how Keith, Ann, and the Springs Team shared about navigating infertility in all of our relationships.


Links:

  • Infertility is Martyrdom blog post
  • Infertility is Martyrdom Blogcast episode
  • Holding Gabriel blog post
  • Holding Gabriel Blogcast episode
  • Communicating with our Spouses, Family, and Friends through Infertility
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4 months ago
20 minutes 15 seconds

The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility
Welcome! We’re glad you found us, because we’re those friends you can take with you—wherever you are on the path of infertility. At Springs, we know that infertility is a heavy cross. But as Catholics, we believe that by keeping our focus on Christ, we can come through this season of waiting stronger in faith and love—no matter what happens. So each week, we’ll bring you a conversation that gets to the heart of the infertility experience – including primary/secondary infertility, miscarriage/loss, childlessness, and more. It is an honor to walk with you! Visit us: www.springsinthedesert.org