Survival isn’t just about staying alive—it’s about finding the strength to rebuild, reclaim, and rise.
That’s the foundation of The Survivors Podcast, where three-time suicide loss survivor, author, crisis counselor, and mental health advocate Lisa Sugarman joins Natasha J. Layton—a multiple suicide attempt and loss survivor, advocate, sexual abuse survivor, and former member of the FLDS polygamy cult—to change the way we talk about suicide, survival, and mental health.
Through raw, unfiltered conversations, Lisa and Natasha explore the realities of surviving trauma, grief, abuse, mental illness, and everything in between—with honesty, hope, and humanity. Their unique perspectives—one shaped by profound loss, the other by unimaginable adversity—create a space where the hardest stories are told with compassion, courage, and vulnerability.
By opening up the conversations we’ve been taught to bury, The Survivors invites listeners into a safe, stigma-free community to reflect, connect, and heal. Together, Lisa and Natasha push past stigma, challenge everything we think we know about survival, and reveal that life after darkness can be filled with meaning, connection, and hope.
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Survival isn’t just about staying alive—it’s about finding the strength to rebuild, reclaim, and rise.
That’s the foundation of The Survivors Podcast, where three-time suicide loss survivor, author, crisis counselor, and mental health advocate Lisa Sugarman joins Natasha J. Layton—a multiple suicide attempt and loss survivor, advocate, sexual abuse survivor, and former member of the FLDS polygamy cult—to change the way we talk about suicide, survival, and mental health.
Through raw, unfiltered conversations, Lisa and Natasha explore the realities of surviving trauma, grief, abuse, mental illness, and everything in between—with honesty, hope, and humanity. Their unique perspectives—one shaped by profound loss, the other by unimaginable adversity—create a space where the hardest stories are told with compassion, courage, and vulnerability.
By opening up the conversations we’ve been taught to bury, The Survivors invites listeners into a safe, stigma-free community to reflect, connect, and heal. Together, Lisa and Natasha push past stigma, challenge everything we think we know about survival, and reveal that life after darkness can be filled with meaning, connection, and hope.
Subscribe now and join the conversation about surviving life, death, and everything in between.
*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
This conversation delves into the complexities of parenting while grieving, exploring personal experiences of loss and the impact on family dynamics. Lisa & Natasha share their stories of navigating grief, the importance of vulnerability, and how to teach children about emotions and loss. They emphasize the cyclical nature of grief and the necessity of allowing children to witness their parents' struggles, fostering compassion and understanding.
In this conversation, they explore the complexities of grief, family dynamics, and parenting. They reflect on personal experiences with loss, the importance of emotional expression, and the impact of generational patterns on parenting styles. The discussion emphasizes the significance of unconditional love and the necessity of being real with children, especially during difficult times. They also touch on the upcoming conversation about life in the FLDS community, highlighting the emotional weight of sharing personal stories.
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Takeaways
Parenting is challenging even on the best days.
Grief adds an overwhelming layer of stress to parenting.
Moms often bear the brunt of emotional labor in families.
Grief can be cyclical and affect parents long after a loss.
It's important to allow children to see their parents' emotions.
Vulnerability can teach children compassion and understanding.
The impact of grief can change family dynamics significantly.
Talking about mental health is crucial for families.
Modeling emotional honesty helps children navigate their own feelings.
Grief can create a sense of disconnection from reality. It's okay to cry and express emotions.
Unconditional love is vital in parenting.
Breaking generational patterns can empower children.
Grief can coexist with joy and meaningful relationships.
Presence is more important than performance in parenting.
Children need to see their parents as human.
Showing vulnerability teaches resilience to children.
Parenting through grief requires self-compassion.
Children are witnesses, not caretakers of parental grief.
Life is hard, but love and kindness can guide us.
Chapters
00:00 Navigating Parenting and Grief
03:09 The Weight of Grief on Parenting
05:55 Personal Stories of Loss and Grief
09:04 The Impact of Grief on Family Dynamics
12:04 Teaching Children About Grief
15:09 The Role of Vulnerability in Parenting
18:01 Breaking the Cycle of Silence Around Grief
24:27 Reflections on Grief and Family Dynamics
30:27 Breaking Generational Patterns in Parenting
35:34 Navigating Grief While Parenting
39:49 Upcoming Conversations on Life in the FLDS
Mental Health Resources
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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In this heartfelt conversation, Lisa and Natasha explore the complexities of navigating grief during the holiday season, particularly as we enter the New Year. They discuss the emotional challenges of celebrating while mourning loved ones, the guilt that can accompany joy, and the importance of honoring memories.
The conversation emphasizes the need for compassion and understanding in supporting those who are grieving, as well as the significance of allowing oneself to feel and express grief in a personal way. Ultimately, they highlight the balance between carrying grief and finding hope as they step into a new year.
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Takeaways
Grief can intensify during the holidays, making celebrations feel bittersweet.
It's common to feel out of sync with others during festive times when grieving.
Traditions can shift dramatically after a loss, creating a sense of disconnection.
Feeling guilty for experiencing joy while grieving is a common struggle.
Honoring lost loved ones through memories can be a healing practice.
Support for those grieving should be compassionate and proactive.
It's important to allow space for grief during celebrations and not force participation.
Choosing intentions rooted in compassion can ease the pressure of New Year expectations.
Surviving another year after a loss is a significant achievement.
Healing from grief does not mean forgetting; it means living in a way that honors those lost.
Chapters
00:00 Navigating Grief During the Holidays
11:50 The Weight of New Beginnings
20:00 Supporting Those Who Grieve
29:58 Finding Hope Amidst Grief
Mental Health Resources
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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In this conversation, Lisa Sugarman and Natasha J Layton discuss the various pressures surrounding the holiday season, particularly focusing on the financial burdens that many families face.
They explore the emotional toll of trying to keep up with societal expectations, the importance of creating meaningful traditions, and practical tips for navigating the holidays without succumbing to financial stress. The discussion emphasizes the value of presence over presents and encourages listeners to prioritize what truly matters during the holiday season.
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Takeaways
We want to broaden the conversation beyond just surviving mental illness.
The financial burden of the holidays can add significant stress.
It's important to navigate family dynamics during the holidays.
Many families spend thousands on holiday celebrations.
Social media can create pressure to keep up with others.
Financial stress can take an emotional toll on parents.
Creating meaningful traditions can be more valuable than expensive gifts.
It's okay to prioritize what matters most during the holidays.
Families should set realistic budgets for holiday spending.
It's important to ask for support when feeling overwhelmed.
Chapters
00:00 Broadening the Conversation on Survival
00:30 Surviving the Financial Burden of the Holidays
02:47 Navigating Family Dynamics During the Holidays
05:09 The Cost of Holiday Celebrations
10:35 The Pressure of Keeping Up with Social Norms
15:51 The Emotional Toll of Financial Stress
20:41 Creating Meaningful Holiday Traditions
26:50 Practical Tips for Surviving Holiday Financial Stress
Mental Health Resources
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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In this conversation, Lisa Sugarman and Natasha J Layton delve into Natasha's experiences growing up in the FLDS, a polygamous cult. They discuss the unique dynamics of her family life, the influence of Warren Jeffs, and the emotional climate of the community. Natasha shares personal anecdotes that highlight the challenges and complexities of her upbringing, setting the stage for deeper discussions in future episodes. In this conversation, Natasha J Layton shares her experiences growing up in a polygamous community under the control of Warren Jeffs.
The discussion highlights the growing tension within her family as her mother began to assert her independence, the challenges faced when transitioning to public school, and the emotional bonds formed with her brother Ward. The conversation also touches on the financial stress experienced during the holidays and the importance of self-care amidst trauma.
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Takeaways
This conversation is like a teaser episode.
Natasha's brother has never shared anything publicly.
The FLDS community had a unique emotional climate.
Natasha's family was an anomaly in the polygamous world.
Their household ran like a well-oiled machine.
Warren Jeffs was a significant authority figure in their lives.
The family dynamics were complex with multiple mothers.
Natasha's father chose his children over the church.
The community prepared for the end of the world.
School days were heavily influenced by Warren Jeffs' rules. Warren Jeffs had a controlling presence in the community.
Natasha's mother began to break away from community norms.
The family faced tension as they navigated their identities.
Public school was a challenging experience for Natasha.
Bullying was a significant issue for Natasha in public school.
Natasha and Ward share a strong bond despite family challenges.
Financial stress can impact holiday experiences.
Coping mechanisms are essential for dealing with trauma.
The importance of self-care during difficult times.
The family's story is a complex mix of trauma and resilience.
Chapters
00:00 Setting the Stage for Powerful Conversations
03:00 Life in the FLDS: A Unique Perspective
05:52 The Dynamics of a Polygamous Household
08:57 Warren Jeffs: The Authority Figure
12:04 The Impact of Excommunication
14:53 School Days Under Warren Jeffs
18:04 Growing Up in a Controlled Environment
18:43 The Growing Tension in the Community
23:01 The Shift in Family Dynamics
28:00 Navigating Public School and Bullying
30:02 Preparing for the Next Chapter with Ward
34:07 Financial Stress During the Holidays
Mental Health Resources
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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In this heartfelt conversation, Lisa and Natasha explore the complexities of navigating the holiday season, particularly for those dealing with grief and mental health challenges. They discuss the societal pressures to appear joyful, the impact of social media on self-perception, and the importance of setting boundaries. The conversation emphasizes the need for authenticity, self-care, and the significance of meaningful connections during a time that can often feel overwhelming.
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Takeaways
The holiday season can amplify feelings of grief and loss.
It's okay to not feel joyful during the holidays.
Social media often portrays a curated version of happiness that can be misleading.
Setting boundaries is crucial for mental well-being during the holidays.
Family dynamics can add pressure to conform to expectations.
It's important to honor your feelings and not feel obligated to attend events.
Authenticity in relationships is key; true friends will support you in tough times.
Children remember the time spent together more than material gifts.
You don't have to perform happiness for others' comfort.
Self-care should be prioritized over societal expectations.
Chapters
00:00 Navigating the Holiday Season
02:56 The Pressure to Be Joyful
05:53 Understanding Grief and Loss
08:53 The Impact of Social Media
12:02 Setting Boundaries During the Holidays
15:05 The Reality of Family Dynamics
18:03 The Struggle of Pretending to Be Fine
20:48 Parenting Through Difficult Times
23:45 Creating Meaningful Holiday Memories
27:04 Embracing Authenticity and Presence
Mental Health Resources
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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In this episode, Lisa and Natasha discuss the complexities of family abuse, particularly within polygamous communities.
Natasha shares her personal experiences growing up in the FLDS polygamy cult as the niece of Warren Jeffs, highlighting the hidden abuse and the pressure to maintain a facade of perfection. The conversation emphasizes the importance of breaking the cycle of abuse and finding strength in vulnerability.
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Takeaways
Family abuse often remains hidden behind closed doors.
Growing up in a polygamous community, Natasha faced unique challenges.
The pressure to maintain a facade of perfection was immense.
Abuse is not always loud; it can be subtle and insidious.
Breaking the cycle of abuse requires courage and support.
Vulnerability can be a source of strength and healing.
It's important to remember that abuse is never the victim's fault.
Support systems and community can play a crucial role in healing.
Sharing personal stories can help others feel less alone.
Healing is a journey that requires time and patience.
Chapters
00:00:01 Introduction and Personal Reflections
00:01:48 Discussing Family Abuse
00:09:12 Natasha's Personal Experiences
00:21:08 Breaking the Cycle and Healing
Mental Health Resources
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In this episode, Lisa and Natasha explore how grief and gratitude collide during the holidays, especially when an empty chair changes everything. This honest conversation offers support, validation, and healing for anyone navigating loss during Thanksgiving.
A powerful, real conversation about surviving childhood sexual abuse and the lifelong impact it has on survivors. Natasha shares her story of trauma, healing, and what it truly takes to rebuild your life after abuse.
In Episode 3: Natasha’s Story Part 2 — Choosing Life, we explore what it means to wake up every day and choose to keep living after deep trauma, abuse, and loss. This raw and honest conversation reveals the strength it takes to survive the hardest moments and find hope again.
*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In this episode of The Survivors, Lisa Sugarman introduces her new co-host Natasha J. Layton, who shares her harrowing story of sexual abuse, religious trauma, domestic abuse, and survival after growing up in the FLDS cult as the niece of Warren Jeffs. Natasha recounts her experiences of childhood trauma and the complexities of life within a polygamous community. The conversation dives into the impact of her past on her mental health and the journey towards reclaiming her narrative and healing.
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Takeaways
- Natasha's story is a powerful testament to survival.
- The FLDS cult's impact on individual lives is profound.
- Trauma can be a dirty family secret that is hard to confront.
- Survivors often grapple with guilt and self-blame.
- Naming one's story is a crucial step in healing.
- The importance of pacing in sharing traumatic experiences.
- Community ties can be severed in the name of faith.
- Understanding the dynamics of polygamy is essential.
- Healing is a layered process that takes time.
- Survival often begins long before it is recognized.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to The Survivors Podcast
01:39 Natasha's Journey Begins
03:02 Life Inside the FLDS Cult
13:34 Understanding the FLDS and Warren Jeffs
24:18 The Impact of Trauma and Abuse
34:01 Reflections on Survival and Healing
Mental Health Resources
If you or someone you know is struggling, please call 988 for help.
National Sexual Abuse Hotline 800-656-4673
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See you next week! In the meantime, keep surviving.
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n the powerful Season 3 premiere of The Survivors, Lisa Sugarman and Natasha J. Layton share real, unfiltered stories of loss, resilience, and rebuilding life after trauma. Join them for raw, honest conversations that remind us we don’t just survive what breaks us—we grow through it.
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In this National Wellness Month episode of The Survivors Podcast, Lisa Sugarman and Gretchen Schoser share simple, powerful wellness habits—like gratitude, mindful breathing, and setting boundaries—that help you stay grounded during grief and life’s heaviest moments. Learn how consistent self-care practices can nurture your mental, emotional, and physical health all year long.
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Survival isn’t just about staying alive—it’s about finding the strength to rebuild, reclaim, and rise.
That’s the foundation of The Survivors Podcast, where three-time suicide loss survivor, author, crisis counselor, and mental health advocate Lisa Sugarman joins Natasha J. Layton—a multiple suicide attempt and loss survivor, advocate, sexual abuse survivor, and former member of the FLDS polygamy cult—to change the way we talk about suicide, survival, and mental health.
Through raw, unfiltered conversations, Lisa and Natasha explore the realities of surviving trauma, grief, abuse, mental illness, and everything in between—with honesty, hope, and humanity. Their unique perspectives—one shaped by profound loss, the other by unimaginable adversity—create a space where the hardest stories are told with compassion, courage, and vulnerability.
By opening up the conversations we’ve been taught to bury, The Survivors invites listeners into a safe, stigma-free community to reflect, connect, and heal. Together, Lisa and Natasha push past stigma, challenge everything we think we know about survival, and reveal that life after darkness can be filled with meaning, connection, and hope.
Subscribe now and join the conversation about surviving life, death, and everything in between.
