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The Terrible Photographer
Patrick Fore
45 episodes
3 days ago
The Terrible Photographer is a storytelling podcast for photographers, designers, and creative humans trying to stay honest in a world that rewards pretending
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The Terrible Photographer
The Long Middle - The Third Space - How to Actually Build Community When Traditional Third Spaces Are Dead (And Why We Have to Try Anyway)

The war is internal, not technical.


Lessons From a Terrible Photographer is a book for creatives who feel stuck, burned out, or disconnected from their work, even though they know what they’re doing.


It’s not about gear or technique. It’s about the internal stuff no one talks about, and focusing on why we make work, not just how.


Preorders help determine the first print run. Copies ship once printing begins.


Preorder here:

https://www.terriblephotographer.com/the-book


You've mastered the craft. You've built the business. You're successful. But you're still lonely. You're Joshua Bell in the subway—playing a Stradivarius while everyone walks past. You've taken off the costume, rejected the hierarchy, and you're still isolated.

So now what?

In the finale of "The Long Middle" series, Patrick explores sociologist Ray Oldenburg's concept of "The Third Space"—the pubs, coffee shops, and barbershops where community used to happen naturally. He examines why these spaces disappeared, how COVID delivered the final blow, and why digital spaces (Reddit, Discord) might be Third Space for some people while remaining incomplete for others.

This episode is both diagnosis and prescription: why we're lonely, why it's gotten worse, and the uncomfortable truth that you can't find community—you have to build it. One vulnerable conversation at a time.

IN THIS EPISODE:

  • Ray Oldenburg's Third Space theory: First Space (home), Second Space (work), Third Space (community)
  • Why Third Spaces disappeared: suburbanization, work-from-home, social media performance culture
  • How COVID killed Third Space culture permanently (not just temporarily)
  • The death of Meetup.com and "social atrophy"—we forgot how to be together
  • Why your friend who says "Reddit is my Third Space" isn't wrong (but it's incomplete)
  • The difference between performing and being seen in digital spaces
  • Why networking events are Second Space disguised as Third Space
  • The Leslie paradox: Patrick's only Third Space relationship is digital and 2800 miles away
  • You can't find Third Space, you have to build it—starting with ONE person
  • Vulnerability first: Be vulnerable → See who responds → Build from there
  • Why you need 2-3 real connections, not 100 photographer "friends" (Dunbar's number)
  • Consistency over intensity: weekly coffee > annual epic meetup
  • The five steps to building your own Third Space (reach out, show up without costume, witness don't fix, make it regular, expand carefully)
  • What to talk about (the real stuff: struggles, jealousy, exhaustion, the work you're hiding)
  • What NOT to talk about (how busy you are, your big clients, industry gossip)
  • Introducing The Table: Patrick's email-based Third Space experiment for people in the long middle

THE CHALLENGE: Reach out to ONE person this week. Not to network, not to collaborate. Just: "I've been thinking about creative loneliness lately. Want to grab coffee?" Then show up without your costume and talk about what you're actually struggling with.

KEY QUOTES: "Third Space doesn't exist until someone creates it. And it doesn't start with a community. It starts with one person."

"Digital-only Third Space is incomplete. You need to look someone in the eye. You need to sit across a table from another human. You need to exist in a room where you can't edit yourself before you speak."

"You can't outsource belonging. You can't scroll your way to community. You can't consume your way to connection."

"COVID didn't pause Third Space culture. It killed it. And we're still living in the wreckage."

WANT A SEAT AT THE TABLE?

The Table is a small, email-based conversation space for creative people in the long middle. No apps. No feeds. No pressure. No posting requirements. Just occasional emails about the real stuff—and the option to reply, or not.

Some weeks you'll get a reflection. Some weeks a question. Some weeks nothing. Sometimes it's about creative existential dread. Sometimes it's about whether gaffer tape smells different depending on the brand.

It's a pub table. But everyone's wearing sweatpants. And nobody has to drive home.

If you want a seat, email: patrick@terriblephotographer.com
Subject line: "I'd like a seat at The Table"

LINKS:

Website: terriblephotographer.com

The Newsletter: Sign up for Pub Notes – Musings, updates, and things I probably shouldn't say in public.
terriblephotographer.com/newsletter

Support the Show: Help keep the lights on
terriblephotographer.com/support

Email the Host: patrick@terriblephotographer.com
Questions, thoughts, rage—I respond to everything.


CREDITS:

  • Music: Licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions
  • Written and Produced by: Patrick Fore
  • Episode Image by Mason Dahl - https://www.instagram.com/masondahlphoto/
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3 days ago
39 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Long Middle - Part 3 - The Enemy - How Gatekeeping and Hierarchy Keep Creative Professionals Isolated (And Why We're All Complicit)

Influencers talk about cameras. This book is about the things cameras can’t fix. The war is internal, not technical.

Introducing the First Edition Collector’s Box.

Get yours here: https://www.terriblephotographer.com/the-book


Why does a $600 light get dismissed while a $3,000 light gets respect, even when they produce identical results? Why do wedding photographers apologize by saying “I’m just a wedding photographer”? And why do we hide the work we’re actually doing because it’s not the “right” kind of work?


In Part 3 of The Long Middle series, Patrick examines the hierarchies that divide creative professionals, and admits his own complicity in enforcing them.


From a tense Zoom call about Profoto versus Godox, to being dismissed in Clubhouse rooms, to looking down on other photographers while feeling looked down upon himself, this episode pulls no punches about how gatekeeping actually works, who it serves, and why we keep it alive.


IN THIS EPISODE:

  • The Profoto story: when "professional standards" are actually access standards
  • What gatekeeping actually means (and the Kurt Lewin research that defined it)
  • Why the kitchen brigade system is the perfect metaphor for creative hierarchies
  • A scene from Pixar's Ratatouille and how it quietly becomes the emotional center of the episode
  • How wedding, portrait, and fashion photographers face different versions of the same dismissal
  • The pattern across all creative fields: writers, musicians, filmmakers, designers
  • Patrick's confession: the times he's been the gatekeeper
  • Why the hierarchy survives (it's not the people at the top—it's the people in the middle)
  • The Clubhouse dismissals and the Taylor Guitars "cool kids table"
  • How hiding your "wrong" work keeps you complicit in the system
  • What leadership actually looks like: extending an arm instead of pulling it up behind you

THE CHALLENGE: The next time someone asks "What are you working on?"—tell them the truth. Not the impressive version. Not the potential job. The actual work you're doing right now. Say it like it's legitimate work. Because it is.

KEY QUOTE: "The hierarchy doesn't survive because the people at the top enforce it. It survives because the people in the middle enforce it. Because we're so afraid of being dismissed, we dismiss someone else first."

LINKS:

Website: terriblephotographer.com

The Newsletter: Sign up for Pub Notes – Musings, updates, and things I probably shouldn't say in public.
terriblephotographer.com/newsletter

Support the Show: Help keep the lights on
terriblephotographer.com/support

Email the Host: patrick@terriblephotographer.com
Questions, thoughts, rage—I respond to everything.


CREDITS


• Music: Licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions

• Written and Produced by: Patrick Fore

• Episode Image: Licensed through Adobe Stock

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1 week ago
38 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Basics, Deconstructed - Framing - Deconstructing Christopher Anderson’s Vanity Fair Portraits: What Every Photographer Needs to Know About Framing Power.

Influencers talk about cameras. This book is about the things cameras can’t fix. The war is internal, not technical.

Introducing the First Edition Collector’s Box.

Get yours here: https://www.terriblephotographer.com/the-book


When Vanity Fair published Christopher Anderson’s portraits of the White House’s inner circle, the internet reacted to the politics. But as photographers, we need to look closer. We need to look at the framing.

In this bonus episode, Patrick Fore deconstructs the word "Framing." It’s not just the rule of thirds or leading lines—it’s authorship. It’s the decision to show truth over comfort, and humanity over "hero energy." Patrick opens up about his own struggle with "cowering" to the moment and why we’ve all become a little too good at making the world look beige.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The difference between geometry (composition) and power (framing).
  • Why Christopher Anderson’s refusal to "smooth" his subjects is an act of courage.
  • The "Light Switch" metaphor: How small, boring details tell the biggest stories.
  • How to stop being a decorator and start being an author again.
  • Why being a "Terrible Photographer" means being terrible at following the rules that kill your voice.

ABOUT CHRISTOPHER ANDERSON

Christopher Anderson is a member of Magnum Photos and is widely considered one of the most influential photographers of his generation. He first gained international recognition for his work documenting the Haitian refugee crisis, where the boat he was traveling on sank in the Caribbean—work that earned him the Robert Capa Gold Medal.

Whether he is documenting conflict, the streets of Shenzhen, or the corridors of power in D.C., Anderson’s work is defined by an intense, emotional intimacy and a refusal to provide a "clean" or "commercial" version of reality.

Find his work here:

  • Website: christopherandersonphoto.com
  • Instagram: @christopherandersonphoto
  • Monographs: Approximate Joy, STUMP, and Pia.

LINKS

  • Website: terriblephotographer.com
  • The Newsletter: Sign up for Pub Notes – Musings, updates, and things I probably shouldn't say in public.
  • Support the Show: Help keep the lights on
  • Email the Host: patrick@terriblephotographer.com
    • Questions, hate mail, and existential spirals are all welcome.

CREDITS

  • Music: Licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions.
  • Written and Produced by: Patrick Fore
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2 weeks ago
29 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Long Middle - Part 2 - The Costume - Why We Hide Behind Professional Roles

Influencers talk about cameras. This book is about the things cameras can’t fix. The war is internal, not technical.

Introducing the First Edition Collector’s Box.

Get yours here: https://www.terriblephotographer.com/the-book


Why do photographers wear so much black? Why do we feel confident on stage but panic at networking events? And why is it so hard to find real community in the creative industry?

In Part 2 of "The Long Middle" series, Patrick explores the costumes we wear—not just the black clothes and gear, but the professional roles and personas that keep us safe and isolated at the same time.

From 17th-century Japanese Kabuki theater to APA mixers in San Diego, this episode examines why we choose invisibility, what happens when we need established roles to feel legitimate, and the five-second decision that keeps us from connection.

IN THIS EPISODE:

  • The Kurogo: Japanese stagehands who dress in black to become "invisible" on stage
  • Why confidence comes from established roles (the stage, the call sheet, the contract)
  • A painful story about leaving a networking event after two minutes
  • How neurodivergence affects ambiguous social spaces
  • Why fifteen years of mastery on set doesn't translate to confidence at a mixer
  • The difference between avatars (who have followers) and humans (who have friends)
  • What happens when you choose the beach over the risk

THE CHALLENGE: The next time someone asks "How's it going?"—tell them one true thing. Not "busy." Not "crushing it." One honest thing. Drop the shield for ten seconds.

LINKS:

Website: terriblephotographer.com

The Newsletter: Sign up for Pub Notes – Musings, updates, and things I probably shouldn't say in public.
terriblephotographer.com/newsletter

Support the Show: Help keep the lights on
terriblephotographer.com/support

Email the Host: patrick@terriblephotographer.com
Questions, hate mail, and existential spirals are all welcome.

CREDITS:

Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions.

Episode Artwork Photo by @erwimadethis

Written and Produced by Patrick Fore

NEXT WEEK: Part 3 – "The Enemy"
If the Costume hides us, Envy divides us. We're talking about scarcity mindset, comparison, and why we see our peers as threats instead of allies.

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2 weeks ago
35 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Long Middle - Part 1 - The Island - Why Mastery Is Lonely

Influencers talk about cameras. This book is about the things cameras can’t fix. The war is internal, not technical.

Introducing the First Edition Collector’s Box.

Get yours here: https://www.terriblephotographer.com/the-book


In January 2007, Joshua Bell—one of the world's best violinists—played a $3.5 million Stradivarius in a Washington D.C. subway station. Over 1,000 people walked past. Only 7 stopped to listen. He made $32.

If you've ever felt like you're playing your heart out while everyone walks past... this episode is for you.

This is Part 1 of a 4-part series called "The Long Middle"—about that specific season in a creative life where you've mastered the skills, built the business, done everything "right"... but something still feels off.

Today's episode is about the loneliness that comes with expertise. The isolation that happens when you get really good at something and realize fewer and fewer people can see what you're actually doing.

You're not broken. You're not ungrateful. You're not alone.

You're just operating at a level where most people can't witness the craft.


IN THIS EPISODE

The Joshua Bell Experiment
Why one of the world's greatest violinists was invisible in a subway station—and what that tells us about creative loneliness.

Sarah's Email
A successful wedding photographer who's "disappearing into the work" despite doing everything right. Her story will sound familiar.

The Loneliness of Mastery
The higher you climb in your craft, the lonelier it gets. Not because you're failing—because fewer people can see what you're actually doing.

Three Types of Loneliness

  • Unintentional Loneliness (physical isolation)
  • Deliberate Loneliness (choosing not to explain yourself)
  • Experiential Loneliness (surrounded by people who don't speak your language)

The Taylor Guitars Story
How shooting a spray robot in a hazmat suit taught me what it feels like to be invisible at the level of expertise.

Gratitude as a Weapon
The difference between genuine gratitude and obligatory gratitude—and why "you should be grateful" has become one of the most damaging phrases in the creative industry.

The Research
Studies on senior executives, designers, and creative professionals all point to the same truth: expertise is isolating. It's documented. It's real. You're not crazy.

Witnessed vs. Consumed
The difference between 10,000 likes and one person who asks, "How did you do that?"

Rivers vs. Pools
Why fast-moving communities (Discord, social media) provide stimulation but not transformation—and what we need instead.


KEY CONCEPTS & FRAMEWORKS

  • Experiential Isolation at the Level of Expertise – The loneliness that comes from operating at a level where fewer people can understand what you're doing
  • The Seven People Who Stopped – You don't need a thousand people. You need the few who can actually witness the craft.
  • Counterfeit Connection – Why engagement rates and subscriber counts feel like food but provide zero nutrition
  • The Pool (vs. The River) – Slow, still, deep spaces where you can see your own reflection vs. fast-moving noise


RESEARCH MENTIONED

  • "Lonely at the Top" study on senior executives (2018)
  • Adobe user research – 60% of designers feel misunderstood by non-creative colleagues
  • Three Types of Loneliness framework – Psychological research (University of Chicago)
  • The Washington Post Joshua Bell experiment (2007)


QUOTES FROM THIS EPISODE

"Gratitude is for gifts. It is not for labor. You don't have to be 'grateful' that the business you built with your own sweat is working."


"The higher you climb, the lonelier it gets. Not because you're broken. But because there are simply fewer people at that altitude."


"You can get 10,000 likes on a photo and still feel completely invisible. Because those people aren't witnessing you. They're consuming content."


"When you're in the Neutral Zone, you don't need a fast-moving river. You need a Still Pool."


"Sarah isn't failing. She's not depressed. She's just alone at the level she's operating."

WHAT'S NEXT

This is Part 1 of a 4-part series called "The Long Middle." Over the next three weeks, we'll explore:

  • Episode 41: How to recognize your people (and why creative friendship is so hard)
  • Episode 42: How to build community without losing your soul
  • Episode 43: What The Pool actually looks like when it works

If you're Joshua Bell in the subway right now—if you're doing your best work and feeling completely invisible—email me. Tell me about the work nobody sees.


BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT

Lessons From A Terrible Photographer is now available as a Limited Collector's Box ($69.99).

Includes:

  • Signed hardcover book
  • Signed photo print
  • Field Notes notebook
  • Hand-typed letter on my 1920s Corona typewriter
  • Access to audiobook & ebook (when released)
  • Stickers

Standard hardback coming January 2026.

Get yours: terriblephotographer.com


CONNECT

Email: podcast@terriblephotographer.com
I respond to everything. Seriously. Tell me what bar you just let go of. Tell me about the work nobody sees.

Website: terriblephotographer.com

Instagram: @terriblephotographer


CREDITS

Music in this episode from Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions.

Episode photography provided by Benjamin Behre / Unsplash

Written, Recorded, Produced & Edited by me, Patrick Fore.


EPISODE STATS

Episode: 40
Series: The Long Middle (Part 1 of 4)
Runtime: ~35 minutes


TAGS

#CreativeLoneliness #PhotographyPodcast #CreativeEntrepreneur #MasteryAndIsolation #CreativeCommunity #TheTerriblePhotographer #JoshuaBell #WitnessedNotConsumed #ExpertiseIsolation #CommercialPhotography #CreativeLife #LongMiddle #ThePool


LISTENER SUPPORT

If this episode resonated with you, the best way to support the show is to:

  1. Share it with one person who needs to hear this
  2. Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify
  3. Email me your story—I read everything

This show exists because you listen. Thank you for being here.

© 2025 The Terrible Photographer Podcast. All rights reserved.

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3 weeks ago
34 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Curator's Disease - The Cost of Turning Your Life Into Content

Belle Gibson faked cancer. The Stauffers rehomed their adopted son when the content became too difficult. Ruby Franke is currently sitting in a prison cell.

It’s easy to look at the monsters of the influencer economy and think, "I am nothing like them." But if you peel back the layers of how we document our own lives, the difference might be smaller than we’d like to admit.

In this episode, we dig into the "Curator's Disease"—the urge to professionalize our own existence. We look at how commercial production techniques have trickled down from ad agencies to our Saturday mornings, how we reverse-engineer our lives to fit a "Lululemon" aesthetic, and the exhausted reality of treating your family like supporting cast members.

We discuss the difference between capturing a beautiful moment and interrupting a life to manufacture one. It’s time to get out of the Director’s Chair.

In this episode:

  • The Monsters: Why the Ruby Franke and LaBrant Family stories aren't just isolated tragedies, but symptoms of a wider infection.
  • The Lululemon Brain Worm: How commercial "lifestyle" marketing taught us to fake our own weekends.
  • The Composite Client: Patrick breaks down a real commercial shoot to show how "authenticity" is manufactured in a conference room.
  • The Interruption: The critical difference between seeing beautiful light and forcing your kids to stand in it.
  • The Unpaid Internship: Why you’re exhausted from trying to hit commercial production standards on a home-video budget.

Connect with The Terrible Photographer:

  • Website: The Terrible Photographer
  • The Newsletter: Sign up for Pub Notes – Musings, updates, and things I probably shouldn't say in public.
  • Support the Show: Help keep the lights on
  • Email the Host: patrick@terriblephotographer.com – Questions, hate mail, and existential spirals are all welcome.

Credits:

  • Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions.
  • Episode Artwork licensed through Adobe Stock.
  • Written and Produced by Patrick Fore
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1 month ago
47 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Noise in the Shadows - When the Enemy is Competence

June 6, 1944. Robert Capa is wading through the freezing water of Omaha Beach. He captures the most important images of the 20th century, and technically, they are a disaster. They are blurry. They are grainy. They are imperfect. And that is exactly why they matter.

In this episode, Patrick explores the physics of light, the "hostage negotiation" of the exposure triangle, and why we are so terrified of grain. We look at how the market has colonized our vision, leading us to trade atmosphere for information and "safe" images for honest ones.

Most importantly, Patrick confesses to "art directing" his own daughter's childhood—prioritizing perfect light over real memories—and asks if it's possible to trade competence back for presence.

In this episode, we talk about:

  • The story of the "Magnificent Eleven" and Robert Capa’s D-Day photos.
  • The Physics of Light: Why the exposure triangle is a hostage situation.
  • Why ISO is like the volume knob on cheap speakers.
  • The "Cultural Clean": Why Instagram and modern cinema feel so flat.
  • A personal confession: Killing the moment to save the exposure.
  • Why "Denoise" is the enemy of the soul.

Support the Show: If you enjoy these ramblings, or if this episode made you feel slightly less guilty about your grainy photos, consider fueling the next one. You can buy me a coffee (or let's be honest, a beer) to help keep the mics on and the existential spirals coming.

  • Fuel the Mess: terriblephotographer.com/support

Links & Resources:

  • Website: terriblephotographer.com
  • Email the Show: patrick@terriblephotographer.com — Send questions, thoughts, or hate mail. I read everything.

Credits:

  • Episode Photo: Hulki Okan Tabak
  • Music: Blue Dot Sessions
  • Sound Effects: Epidemic Sound
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1 month ago
29 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Basics, Deconstructed - Good vs. Bad - If It Feels Safe, It's Dead

In 1863, the Paris Salon rejected Édouard Manet's The Luncheon on the Grass for being too messy, too flat, too "unfinished." Today, it's one of the most important paintings in art history. Meanwhile, the "perfect" paintings that won the medals? Nobody remembers them.

In this episode, we're deconstructing the biggest question photographers face: What makes a photo "good"? How do we measure it? Who decides? And why do we keep building portfolios that are technically perfect but emotionally dead?

This is the first episode in a new mid-week series called "Basics, Deconstructed" we take the elementary concepts of photography and tear them down until we find the bone.

In This Episode:

  • Why technical perfection is the enemy of art
  • The difference between "High Notes" (sharpness, perfect skin tones) and "Bass Notes" (the blur, the shadow, the grit)
  • What happened when an art buyer tore apart my "perfect" portfolio
  • How to stop shooting out of fear and start shooting out of soul
  • The hardest lesson: being shrewd enough to interrupt the performance

Key Quote:

"I don't hire photographers to be commercial. I hire technicians to be sharp. I hire photographers to make me feel something."

Contact & Support:

📧 Email: patrick@terriblephotographer.com
(Questions, thoughts, hate mail—I respond to everything.)

🎵 Music: epidemicsound.com

☕ Support the show: https://www.terriblephotographer.com/support

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/terriblephotographer

📬 Newsletter (Pub Notes): https://the-terrible-photographer.kit.com/223fe471fb

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1 month ago
28 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Still Terrible - A Confession About Fear, Failure, and the Middle of the Story

In this episode, I talk about the question that has been following me around like a stray dog with abandonment issues:


“What am I doing wrong?”


A late-night Zoom call.

A missed phone call that might have cost me a job.

Fabric mocking me at 2 AM.

Postponing Christmas.

Pretending patience is a virtue when really it’s just a financial liability.


This one is not a framework or a lesson.

It is a confession.

A pressure valve.

A look at the part of the creative journey nobody posts about because it is messy and embarrassing and makes you question whether you even belong in the room.


We get into:

  • Saying yes to work you should have said no to
  • Anxiety disguised as professionalism
  • The career panic nobody warns you about
  • The gap between what we preach and what we actually do
  • What our kids see when we are barely holding it together
  • The tension between craft, performance, and being human

If you have ever wondered whether you are behind, off-track, or quietly failing your way through your creative life, this episode is for you.


Music Provided by:

https://www.epidemicsound.com

Support the Show

If the podcast means something to you, or if it helps you feel a little less alone in this creative circus, you can support the show here:


https://www.terriblephotographer.com/support


Your support keeps the lights on, the episodes coming, and the midnight fabric-styling breakdowns to a minimum. Thank you for being part of this.

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1 month ago
56 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Bloody Knuckles - Let’s talk about A.I.

This is the episode I’ve been avoiding.


Not because I don’t have an opinion about AI — but because I have too many feelings about it. Gratitude. Fear. Anger. Wonder. All tangled together.


AI has become my external brain — a tool that helps me function, organize, even parent. And at the same time, it’s the thing that might end my career.


In this episode, I talk honestly about what Adobe’s new AI tools mean for photographers, artists, and the humans behind the craft. About the moment when “photo editing” turns into “people editing.” And about what we lose when images no longer require someone to be there — to see, to choose, to feel.


Because when everything becomes generated, the rarest thing left might just be the real.


This isn’t a tech breakdown. It’s a gut check.



In This Episode:


  • The paradox of AI as both accessibility and threat
  • Adobe’s new AI tools and what they mean for photographers
  • The difference between CGI in film and AI in photography
  • Consent, ethics, and the human line in image manipulation
  • The fear of becoming irrelevant — and the deeper truth underneath
  • Why the practice of photography still matters more than the product
  • How to reclaim your craft in the age of automation

Featured Voices:


A few members of The Terrible Community share how AI makes them feel — not what they think about it.

“AI is lazy… it’s not intelligent, it’s just reflecting us — all our bias, all our noise — and pretending it’s something new.”


Light Leak:


Go make something where the practice is the point.

Shoot something you’ll never post.

Feel the weight of the camera in your hand — that’s what real still feels like.


Because that’s the thing they can’t generate.

That’s the thing they can’t take from you.


Listen If You’ve Ever Thought:

  • “AI is helping me — and that scares me.”
  • “What’s the point of creating when machines can do it faster?”
  • “I’m grateful for this tech… and I hate that I’m grateful.”
  • “I miss when photography still felt like something.”

Credits:


Written & Narrated by: Patrick Fore

Produced by: The Terrible Photographer

Community Voicemails: Members of The Terrible List

Music & Sound Design: Blue Dot Sessions
Robots by Flight of the Concords (1-minute)


Connect:

  • 🖤 terriblephotographer.com
  • 🎙️ Leave a voicemail for future episodes: terriblephotographer.com/voicemail
  • 📰 Join the newsletter: The Terrible List
  • 📸 Instagram: @theterriblephotographer
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1 month ago
48 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Economic Dumpster Fire - Why the Creative Economy Split in Half (and How to Navigate It)

Episode 34 | November 2025

I was in my garage last Tuesday, shooting beef tallow. Yes, beef tallow—jarred cow fat with a marketing department. And while I'm adjusting highlights on solidified animal fat for the fourth time, I'm thinking: I used to shoot for Rolling Stone. What happened?

Then my friend Candice texted. An illustrator in St. Louis. I asked how business was going.

"Everything is a garbage fire out there."

And that's when I realized: we're both drowning. But for completely opposite reasons.

She doesn't have enough work. I have plenty of work—just the wrong work. And neither of us could shake the feeling that something bigger was happening.

So I dug into the data. Economic reports, central bank surveys, and consumer debt studies. And what I found explains why so many freelancers feel like they're either sprinting or sinking right now.

The economy didn't just slow down. It split in half.


What You'll Learn in This Episode:

The Three-Restaurant Economy

  • Why Restaurant Two (the middle market) closed and nobody told you
  • Where the money actually went (and who's still spending)
  • Why some creatives are drowning in commodity work while others have empty calendars

The Economic Data (Made Human)

  • The US service sector flatlined in September 2025 (ISM hit 50.0)
  • 37% of European businesses postponed investment plans
  • 84% of people with credit card debt are cutting non-essentials
  • The top 20% now account for two-thirds of all consumption

What to Actually Do Tomorrow

  • How to audit your clients into three categories (A, B, C)
  • Three questions to ask yourself this week
  • The 80/20 split that keeps you sane
  • Where to find recession-resistant work (even if it's unglamorous)

Why Craft Still Matters

  • What my daughter Lucy's drawings taught me about showing up
  • My brother Charlie's legacy (and why it has nothing to do with accolades)
  • Why being strategic doesn't mean becoming cynical

Timestamps:

00:00 - Cold Open: Beef Tallow in My Garage
08:45 - The Text Message That Changed Everything
12:30 - The Three-Restaurant Economy (The Metaphor)
18:20 - The Economic Data: What Actually Happened
26:15 - Why We're Both Drowning
31:40 - Where the Money Actually Is (Three Specific Markets)
38:50 - What to Actually Do Tomorrow (Tactical Actions)
48:20 - The Productivity Lie (And the Stoic Response)
53:10 - The Shadow Question (What Are You Actually Ashamed Of?)
58:30 - Why This Still Matters (Lucy, Charlie, and Showing Up)
01:06:45 - Outro


Key Takeaways:

  1. The middle market collapsed. The clients with mid-tier budgets who valued creative work—many of them can't access credit or have cut discretionary spending. That's not a personal failure. That's structural economics.
  2. You're either at Restaurant One or Restaurant Three. Commodity work (fast and cheap) or luxury/corporate work (selective and high-end). Restaurant Two is closed.
  3. Three sectors are still hiring aggressively: IT (35%), Finance/Real Estate (32%), Healthcare/Life Sciences (28%). Target them.
  4. The 80/20 rule saves your sanity: 80% of your energy goes to work that pays bills. 20% goes to work that feeds your soul. Stop trying to make every project be both.
  5. Craft matters, even when the client doesn't. Showing up with integrity to unsexy work isn't settling. It's professionalism. And it's what keeps you in the game.

Resources Mentioned:

Economic Data Sources:

  • ISM Services Index (September 2025)
  • European Central Bank Credit Standards Survey (Q3 2025)
  • Consumer Debt Studies (2025)

Strategic Frameworks:

  • Marcus Aurelius on control (Meditations)
  • The 80/20 split for creative sustainability
  • Three-category client audit (A/B/C framework)

What's Next:

If this episode resonated with you, text a fellow creative and ask them: "How are you? Really?" Because the loneliest part of this moment isn't the struggle—it's the belief that you're the only one struggling.

And if you want to talk more about navigating the bifurcated creative economy, hit me up on Instagram @patrickfore or email me at patrick@terriblephotographer.com

The garbage fire is real. But so are we.


About The Terrible Photographer Podcast:

This is a show for creative humans navigating the messy reality of making work that matters while also paying rent. We talk about identity, craft, failure, and the absurdity of the creative industry—with radical honesty and zero bullshit.

If you're tired of toxic positivity and gear reviews, you're in the right place.

More Episodes: http://terriblephotographer.com
Book: Lessons From a Terrible Photographer (coming Dec 2025)


Credits:

Hosted, Written, and Produced by: Patrick Fore
Music: Epidemic Sound
Recorded in: San Diego, California

Support the show: If this episode helped you, the best thing you can do is share it with another creative who needs to hear it. Word of mouth keeps this show alive.

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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Yeah, Maybe - Why Some People Kill Your Ideas (And How to Protect Them)

Have you ever shared something you were excited about only to have it met with "yeah, maybe" or "how are you going to monetize that?"

In this episode, I sit down with a story that's been eating at me for weeks — a conversation at a coffee shop that revealed something uncomfortable about regret, haunted creatives, and the ghosts of unmade work.

This isn't about toxic positivity or hustle culture. It's about understanding the difference between someone who's tired and someone who's haunted. Between love and regret. Between the people who will protect your ideas and the ones who will kill them — often without realizing it.

And if I'm honest, it's about recognizing when we become those people ourselves.


In This Episode

The Coffee Shop Moment A conversation with a photographer friend that starts with excitement and ends with something closer to mourning.

The Difference Between Tired and Haunted Why some people poke holes in your ideas — and it has nothing to do with you.

Three Faces of Haunting

  • The perfectionist paralyzed by an impossible vision
  • The silent avoider who pretends not to see your success
  • The one with all the resources who just... doesn't

The Idea Graveyard My own confession: the photo essay about my hometown that will never exist, and what it taught me about shelf life.

Love vs. Regret How my wife Jaimi saved me from launching a business I didn't actually want — and how to tell the difference between questions that protect you and questions that undermine you.

The Physics of Regret How other people's ghosts create friction that converts your creative momentum into heat, defensiveness, and eventual paralysis.

Protecting Your Butterflies Practical strategies for guarding your ideas and building a "Go" list instead of a "Know" list.


Key Takeaways

  • Ideas have a life of their own — and a shelf life. They don't wait for you to be ready.
  • "Yeah, maybe" is the sound of a butterfly dying.
  • Tired people say, "I'm exhausted, but that sounds amazing." Haunted people poke holes.
  • The dream can become the cage — perfectionism is just another form of paralysis.
  • Friction is cumulative: each skeptical question converts your creative energy into defensive heat.
  • Most haunted people aren't villains. They're good people carrying ghosts.
  • The only thing worse than starting something and failing is not starting something at all.


Quotable Moments

"He wasn't trying to kill my idea. He was mourning his own."

"When your idea gets that big, that expensive, that unreachable — it becomes a shield. The dream has become the cage."

"Ideas have a shelf life. They start fresh, urgent, necessary. Leave them too long, they spoil."

"Haunted people ask questions to protect themselves. People who love you ask questions to protect you."

"Friction converts kinetic energy into heat. Your momentum gets converted into defensiveness. Your creative energy burns off as anxiety."

"The only thing worse than starting something and failing... is not starting something at all." — Seth Godin

"You can't hitch your momentum to parked cars."


The Light Leak Assignment

Make two lists:

List One: The Haunted People who respond to your excitement with skepticism, apathy, or "yeah, maybe." They don't get access to your butterflies.

List Two: The Builders The ones who finish, ship, say "fuck yes," and offer help instead of obstacles. These are your people.

Stop pitching to List One. Guard your butterflies. Feed them only to people who still believe they're real.


Concepts Explored:

  • Friction (physics)
  • Ideas as living things with shelf lives
  • Haunted vs. tired creatives
  • The "Go" list vs. "Know" list

Quote: "The only thing worse than starting something and failing... is not starting something at all." — Seth Godin


Connect With Patrick

Website: patrickfore.com

Instagram: @patrickfore

Podcast: The Terrible Photographer

Book: Lessons From a Terrible Photographer (coming soon)


Credits

Host & Producer: Patrick Fore

Episode Photography: Amy Humphries Find Amy on Instagram: @amyjoyhumphries

Music Licensed Through:

  • Epidemic Sound
  • Blue Dot Sessions

Support The Show

If this episode resonated with you, here's how you can help:

  • Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — it helps other people find the show
  • Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it
  • Subscribe so you don't miss future episodes
  • Send me a DM on Instagram and tell me which list you're on

A Note From Patrick

This episode has been living in my head for weeks. The coffee shop conversation happened months ago, but it took me this long to understand what it was really about.

I hope this gives you permission to protect your ideas. To say "fuck yes" to butterflies when they land on your shoulder. And to stop asking permission from people who stopped saying yes a long time ago.

Thanks for being here.

Until next Tuesday — stay curious, stay courageous, and yeah, stay terrible.

— Patrick

The Terrible Photographer is a podcast for creative humans navigating the messy reality of making work that matters. We don't do hustle culture. We don't do toxic positivity. We do honest conversations about creativity, identity, and finding your voice.

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2 months ago
54 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Gold Star - Why Artists Keep Chasing Validation and How to Find Meaning Without the Awards

You ever buy a twenty-two-dollar airport sandwich and convinced yourself it was worth it?

That’s what this week’s episode is about — except the sandwich is a photography competition.


In Gold Star, Patrick unpacks his love-hate relationship with the American Photographic Artists’ Untitled competition — and what it reveals about the creative world’s obsession with approval. From spreadsheets of judges to award-show absurdities like the Oscars and Grammys, this episode digs into why artists still crave validation from systems they don’t even believe in.


It’s funny, frustrated, and a little too honest — a meditation on why we keep chasing the gold stars that will never love us back.

Featuring a clip from Jim Carrey’s Golden Globes speech, a story about Patrick’s first Houston Addy Award, and a Light Leak that challenges you to make something that doesn’t need anyone’s permission to exist.


You’ll hear about:

  • Why creative competitions feel like overpriced validation
  • The psychology of approval and the decay of validation
  • What Jim Carrey can teach us about artistic hunger
  • How to stop mistaking opportunity for illusion
  • Why the real reward is the right to keep doing the work

Mentioned in this episode:

  • American Photographic Artists (APA Untitled Competition)
  • Jim Carrey’s 2016 Golden Globes speech
  • The Addy Awards (American Advertising Federation)
  • Rick Rubin, Diane Arbus, Van Gogh, Tom Sachs

Light Leak: The Paradox of the Work

What if you stopped making work for judges, algorithms, and invisible audiences — and started making the thing that’s too honest to explain?

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2 months ago
55 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Cage - Three Invisible Prisons That Keep Creatives Small

Why creatives stay stuck, even when the door’s wide open.


We all want freedom. Creative freedom, emotional freedom, professional freedom. But here’s the thing nobody tells you:

You can be free… and still live like you’re caged.


In this episode, I break down the three invisible cages every creative person ends up pacing:

  • The Industry Cage – tribes, gear cults, status games, and the performance of “real” photographer-ness
  • The Creative Cage – safety disguised as style, repetition disguised as voice, consistency as comfort
  • The Personal Cage – the scariest one of all: the refusal to put yourself in the work

It starts with a pacing lioness in San Diego, makes a detour through childhood Masonic mystery, and ends in a gallery in LA with a man named Jesse and a story I still can’t shake.


If you’ve ever felt trapped by your own success, your style, your niche, or your silence… this one’s for you.


Light Leak Assignment:


Choose your cage.

Take one honest step outside it.

Before the week ends.

No excuses.


Listen if you’ve ever said:

  • “I feel like I’m just doing the same thing over and over.”
  • “I’m scared to change because I finally found something that works.”
  • “I don’t know how to put myself in my work.”

Support the Show:


This show is 100% listener-supported, which means I’m not selling presets, funnel hacks, or “ten ways to make six figures with your camera.”

But if the episode made you feel something — if it helped you name the cage — I’d love your support.


👉 terriblephotographer.com/support


Three amazing humans have already joined. Be the fourth. Let’s get weird and honest together.


Episode Topics:

  • Cult psychology and the photo industry
  • The seduction of gear tribes and online identity
  • Why consistency might be killing your creativity
  • What we’re really afraid of when we avoid vulnerability
  • The lioness who still walks her old cage
  • What Jesse taught me in a room full of polite creatives

🔗 Other Mentions:

  • Episode 28: The Tyranny of Okay – Why Most Creative Work is Just work (I actually listed this as Episode 27 in the episode, but it's Episode 28)
  • Terror, Love, and Brainwashing by Alexandra Stein
  • The Boxcar Children (yes, really)
  • The real cost of not evolving


Stay curious. Stay courageous. And yeah… stay terrible.

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2 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Dirty Little Secrets - 8 Secrets Photographers Never Admit

A milestone. And maybe the most uncomfortable episode I've made so far.

A few weeks ago, I sent an email to thirty photographers I know. I asked them one question: What's your dirty little secret? The thing you'd never admit publicly. The thought that lives in the back of your brain at 3 AM.

I told them it would be anonymous. I just wanted the truth.

And I got a lot of responses.

This episode is about those secrets. The ones we carry alone. The ones that make us feel like frauds, or failures, or like we've made a massive mistake.

Some of these might be mine. I'm not telling you which ones.

But they're all real. And if you've thought any of them, you're not alone.


The Eight Secrets

  1. The Gatekeeping - "I resent [X] photographers and think I'm better than them."
  2. The Copycat - "I don't know how to make anything original."
  3. The Performance - "I'm not as busy as I make it look."
  4. The House of Cards - "I'm one accident away from losing everything."
  5. The Golden Handcuffs - "I would walk away if I could afford it."
  6. The Minimum Effort - "I'm just trying to get the work out the door."
  7. The Burnout - "I don't care about photography anymore."
  8. The Long Game - "I'm terrified I won't be able to retire."

Mentioned in This Episode

Leslie's Podcast: Niche to Meet You
A great show about finding your creative lane. Check it out.


Support The Show

This show costs money to make—hosting fees, software, time. If you're getting value from it and want to help keep it going, you can support the show here:

terriblephotographer.com/support

The show's free. It's staying free. But if you want to chip in, I appreciate it.


Stay Connected

📸 Instagram: @terriblephotographer
📧 Newsletter: Subscribe to PubNotes
🌐 Website: terriblephotographer.com


Credits

Music:

  • Licensed through Blue Dot Sessions
  • "Secret" by The Pierces

Hosted, Written, and Produced by: Patrick Fore


Your Turn

Write down one secret. One thing you've never said out loud. Not for Instagram. Not for anyone else. Just for you.

Take it out of the dark and look at it in the light.

You don't have to solve it. You just have to stop pretending it's not there.

If this episode resonated with you, share it with another creative who needs to hear it. And if you want to support the show, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps more than you know.

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2 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Sacred Mundane - Beating Hustle Culture, Escape Procrastination, and Focus Deeply

Have you ever had a day where you told yourself you were “busy”… but couldn’t actually remember what you did? I know I have. Hours lost to scrolling, inboxes, half-finished tasks — and somehow at the end of it, I’m exhausted but nothing’s really done.


In this episode of The Terrible Photographer Podcast, I go after the two liars in my head who keep me trapped in that fake middle ground:

  • Hustle Harry — the voice that shames you into guilt if you’re not grinding nonstop.
  • Lazy Laura — the voice that convinces you procrastination counts as rest.

Neither one delivers real work. Neither one delivers real rest. And both are lying to us.


Instead, I want to talk about presence — the kind my Border Collie, Loki, embodies every time he drops into that crouch and locks onto a tennis ball like it owes him money. Which leads to…


⏱️ The Light Leak (36:40): The Loki Method — a simple, one-task-at-a-time rebellion against hustle culture and procrastination. Full attention, sacred focus, and real rest are scheduled like it actually matters.


This episode is about rediscovering focus, dignity in the ordinary, and finding a way to work present instead of just working harder.


If you’ve ever felt stuck between fake productivity and fake rest, this one’s for you.


Music provided by Blue Dot Sessions

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3 months ago
47 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Tyranny of Okay - Why Most Creative Work Is Just Work

What if the most radical thing you can say about your creative work is: it’s okay?


In this episode, Patrick dives into the beige middle of creative life — the 80% of days that aren’t fireworks or disasters. He tears into LinkedIn’s toxic lobster-and-champagne highlight reel, confesses his late-night burger-level Photoshop grinds, and introduces us to Sarah, a catering coordinator who redefined what “ordinary work” can mean.


Along the way you’ll hear:

  • Why “do what you love and you’ll never work a day” is weapons-grade bullshit
  • The LinkedIn Lobster Problem: how performative self-promotion makes our Tuesdays feel like failure
  • Sarah’s story — the quiet hero who showed Patrick what it means to find dignity in the ordinary
  • Stoic wisdom on work, meaning, and why you are more than your job
  • The burger vs. lobster framework for understanding creative life (and why burgers matter more than we admit)

This isn’t an episode about settling. It’s about survival, dignity, and gratitude for the work that keeps us human.


The tyranny was never that work is ordinary. The tyranny was believing ordinary wasn’t enough.


👉 Listen if: you’ve ever felt guilty for not loving every second of your “dream job,” or you’re tired of pretending passion is renewable.

👉 Stay for: a story that will make you grateful for the burger on your plate.


Resources & Mentions

  • Viktor Frankl, Man’s Search for Meaning
  • Epictetus & Marcus Aurelius, on the dignity of ordinary work
  • Simone Weil, on attention as generosity

Connect with Patrick

  • The Terrible Photographer Newsletter
  • Instagram

Credits

  • Episode photo by Amirali Mirhashemian
  • Music licensed through Blue Dot Sessions
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3 months ago
43 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Permission to Quit - AI, burnout, and why photographers are leaving the industry

A New York–based commercial portrait photographer (big clients, covers, immaculate work) asked to talk. What came out wasn’t a portfolio review—it was a confession: he hasn’t made anything for himself in over a year, and he’s exhausted from performing passion he doesn’t feel. This episode is a permission slip for the photographers—and all creative workers—secretly pricing escape routes at 2 a.m. We talk about the unsaid epidemic of burnout, the grief under AI “efficiency,” and three practical permissions to help you stop performing and start feeling again. If you need someone to say it: you’re allowed to quit the version of creativity that’s killing you.


What you’ll hear

  • The “booked and blessed” performance vs. the honest reality of burnout
  • Why so many photographers feel like they’re always “rushing or dragging” (yes, that scene)
  • AI grief: mourning the death of mystery without romanticizing gatekeeping
  • Three permissions:
  1. Quit the job that killed the artist (without quitting art)
  2. Be mediocre while you remember why you started
  3. Create for yourself first
  • A one-week “Light Leak” experiment to rekindle curiosity—no audience allowed

Chapter guide

  • 00:00 — Cold Open: The Zoom call that said the quiet part out loud
  • 03:40 — Intro: Why honesty feels dangerous in our industry
  • 08:10 — Act I: The Unspoken Pandemic (burnout as a system problem)
  • 13:30 — Whiplash Clip: “Rushing or dragging?” (context + reflection)
  • 15:10 — Act II: AI Grief (loss of mystery, craft vs. club, why cracks matter)
  • 23:40 — Music Moment: Johnny Cash’s “Hurt” and the beauty in brokenness
  • 26:10 — Vivian Maier: Calling vs. career; imperfect images that breathe
  • 31:20 — Act III: The Three Permissions (with Campbell & practical frames)
  • 39:30 — Light Leak: The 7-day private-making experiment
  • 43:15 — Close: Choosing living over performing (and why the camera will wait)
Times are approximate—use them as chapters in your host.

The Light Leak (listener assignment)

For the next 7 days, make one thing a day that no one sees but you. No posting, no portfolio, no feedback. Just curiosity. If you want to break the rules publicly, tag #StayTerrible—but the real win is remembering what it feels like to make without an audience.


Pull quotes

  • “You can quit being a photographer without quitting photography.”
  • “Maybe your creative career needs to die so your creative voice can live.”
  • “We’re mourning the death of mystery—and that grief is real.”
  • “You were an artist before you had an audience. You still are.”

Resources & references

  • Whiplash (2014) — “Rushing or dragging?” rehearsal-room clip
  • Finding Vivian Maier (2013) — trailer & story
  • Johnny Cash — “Hurt” (cover of Nine Inch Nails)
  • Johnny Paycheck — “Take This Job and Shove It”
  • Joseph Campbell — ego death/transformation arc (Hero’s Journey themes)
  • Rick Rubin — strategic elimination (remove what doesn’t serve the truth)

Music & audio credit

  • “Take This Job and Shove It” — Johnny Paycheck (used ~60s after intro)
  • “Hurt” — Johnny Cash (used ~30s for commentary)
  • Film clip: “Rushing or Dragging” from Whiplash (brief excerpt for critique)
  • Trailer audio: Finding Vivian Maier (brief excerpt for commentary)
  • Additional music provided and licensed through Green Dot Sessions
  • All third-party audio remains the property of its respective rights holders; brief excerpts are used under fair use for commentary/critique.

Episode Photography by Filip Mroz | Unsplash

Who this episode is for

Commercial photographers, portrait shooters, freelancers, art directors, and any creative who’s tired of performing passion while running on empty—and needs permission to step off the treadmill without abandoning their voice.


Stay connected


If this hit a nerve, share it with one photographer who needs the permission too.

Newsletter & Field Notes: terriblephotographer.com

IG: @terriblephotographer • @patrickfore

Business inquiries & notes: patrick@patrickfore.com

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3 months ago
45 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Pub Meditations - Six Meditations, One Pint: Notes on Survival, Shadows, and Light

One meditation. One burning question. One reminder you’re not alone. Every Wednesday in your inbox — shorter, sharper, and more honest than I could ever be in a long essay.

Subscribe to Pub Notes: terriblephotographer.com


Some days the world is too loud, too endless. You don’t need another lecture. You need a pint, a hard truth, and a line you can actually carry into tomorrow.


This week’s episode is an experiment I’m calling Pub Meditations — three acts, two meditations per act. Six in total. Each one pulled from the episodes that hit hardest this year, reimagined as something shorter, sharper, and closer to the way the Stoics wrote: notes to survive the day.


In the cold open, I borrow the first couple minutes from Ryan Holiday’s The Daily Stoic — a podcast I can’t recommend enough. Ryan’s voice is where I first realized Stoicism wasn’t about flatlining your emotions, it was about surviving chaos with your humanity intact. Go listen, subscribe, and keep a notebook handy.


What’s inside this episode:

  • Act I: Survival as strength training (Still Here · Dim, Not Done)
  • Act II: The inner fight (Your Brain Is the Biggest Dick · In the Shadows)
  • Act III: Defiance through beauty (The Light Hits Back · We Work, Rome Burns)

Line you carry: Survival. Shadows. Light. Beauty. The tools haven’t changed in two thousand years — keep it short, keep it sharp, keep it honest.


Credits

  • Excerpt from The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday — listen here
  • Music throughout by Green Dot Sessions
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3 months ago
35 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
Is It Good? - Photography, Approval, and the Fight for Creative Truth

Every kid asks their art teacher, “Is it good?”—and most of us never stop. In this episode, Patrick sits in Lucy’s middle-school art room and realizes he’s still chasing the same answer on high-stakes sets: watching client faces, parsing murmurs behind a monitor, riding the narcotic of approval.


We get into the modern authorities—clients, algorithms, mood boards—and the way we internalize them until we’re grading ourselves before anyone else can. We talk Gordon Parks, who lived the tension between immaculate Vogue spreads (noble, beautiful, necessary) and dangerous truth-telling (American Gothic, segregation, Malcolm X). We bring in Tolstoy’s blunt metric for art—sincerity that transmits feeling—and then admit the hypocrisy of needing authority to say “ignore authority.”


Finally, we bring it home with practical footholds for working photographers and every other creative human: how to hold the tension between survival and legacy, how to make room for truth without burning down your life, and what it looks like to start small, local, and personal—today.


Chapter markers (suggested)

  • 00:00 — Cold open: the middle-school art room
  • 03:20 — “When did we stop trusting the thing that made us create?” (Harter, Amabile)
  • 06:10 — “How do we determine art’s value?” (the parent exchange)
  • 012:00 — Act 1: LED volume in L.A., approval as a drug
  • 17:41 — Act 2: Gordon Parks—safe vs. true, and why both matter
  • 25:46 — Act 3: The new authorities—clients, algorithms, and the gatekeeper in your head
  • 31:54 — Act 4: Returning to the first voice—practical ways to start
  • 36:105— Closing benediction: “F*ck good. Make something true.”

Key takeaways

  • Safe work isn’t the villain. It’s noble, beautiful, and necessary—it funds the life that makes true work possible.
  • Truth-telling is risky by nature. It may not pay, but it’s the only work that lasts.
  • Modern authority isn’t a red pen; it’s an algorithm—and the voice you internalized.
  • You don’t need Tolstoy’s, your teacher’s, or Patrick’s approval. They don’t know you.
  • Start where you are: one photo that feels like yours, even if no one ever sees it.

Practical prompts (do one this week)

  • Wedding shooter (Denver): deliver the must-haves—then make one photograph no one asked for that tells an unglamorous, honest truth from the day.
  • Parent (Dubuque): document the mess before you clean it. Title it. Date it. Keep it.
  • Teacher (Phoenix): photograph the moment a student finally gets it—or doesn’t.
  • Everyone: set aside 30 minutes for a “no-client walk.” One frame that’s yours.

Pull quotes

  • “Safe pays the bills. Truth leaves scars.”
  • “Good is the waiting-room soft pop of creativity.”
  • “Don’t confuse survival with legacy.”
  • “Stop chasing good. Make something true.”

References & shout-outs

  • Gordon Parks — Vogue fashion work and American Gothic (Ella Watson).
  • Leo Tolstoy, What Is Art? — art as sincere transmission of feeling.
  • Susan Harter — self-concept shift (ages ~7–8); external evaluation enters.
  • Teresa Amabile — external evaluation narrows creativity and originality.
  • LED volume productions mentioned: The Mandalorian, The Batman.
Note: contains explicit language.

New listener compass


New here? This isn’t “business hacks to win in 2025.” We go deep on the real life of making honest work while paying bills—sometimes deadly serious, sometimes ridiculous. Photographers, designers, teachers, parents—if you’re trying to lead a meaningful life, solve interesting problems, and make beautiful things, you’re in the right place. Try: Ep. 5 Still Here (hopeful), Ep. 19 The Job I Hate the Least (funny), Ep. 17 The Technician (identity & reinvention).


Credits

  • Host/Writer: Patrick Fore
  • Music: Licensed via Blue Dot Sessions & Epidemic Sound
  • Support the show: Buy me a coffee → https://buymeacoffee.com/terriblephotographer
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4 months ago
39 minutes

The Terrible Photographer
The Terrible Photographer is a storytelling podcast for photographers, designers, and creative humans trying to stay honest in a world that rewards pretending