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Then & Now
UCLA Luskin Center for History and Policy
149 episodes
3 weeks ago
We are excited to announce that we will be relaunching in 2026 under a new name! Starting in January 2026, you can find us on your favorite podcast platform under our new name: Putting the Past to Work: The History-Policy Podcast at UCLA! We will continue interviewing historians and policy-makers and providing important historical contexts for the policy debates of today. Thank you for listening!
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We are excited to announce that we will be relaunching in 2026 under a new name! Starting in January 2026, you can find us on your favorite podcast platform under our new name: Putting the Past to Work: The History-Policy Podcast at UCLA! We will continue interviewing historians and policy-makers and providing important historical contexts for the policy debates of today. Thank you for listening!
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Then & Now
Then & Now is Rebranding!
We are excited to announce that we will be relaunching in 2026 under a new name! Starting in January 2026, you can find us on your favorite podcast platform under our new name: Putting the Past to Work: The History-Policy Podcast at UCLA! We will continue interviewing historians and policy-makers and providing important historical contexts for the policy debates of today. Thank you for listening!
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3 weeks ago

Then & Now
Special Episode: The Future of History Part 2
In the second part of then & now’s special presentation of the panels from the “Future of History” conference, David Myers, host of then & now, moderates a conversation on the precarious state of history, democracy, and cultural institutions in the United States. The panelists include Lonnie G. Bunch III, the 14th Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution; Athena N. Jackson, UCLA’s Norman and Armena Powell University Librarian; and Robin D.G. Kelley, Distinguished Professor and holder ...
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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes

Then & Now
Special Episode: The Future of History Part 1
This episode of then & now features a panel from the “Future of History” conference moderated by UCLA Professor Brenda Stevenson, an award-winning historian of race, gender, slavery, and community. She introduces three UCLA historians whose work spans the U.S. and the globe: Professor Kelly Lytle Hernández, a MacArthur Fellow and leading scholar of race, immigration, and mass incarceration; Professor Sanjay Subrahmanyam, Distinguished Professor and global historian of the early modern wor...
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1 month ago
1 hour 13 minutes

Then & Now
Special Episode: Plenary Address from the Urban History Association
In this week’s episode of then & now, David Myers moderates a panel discussion from the recent Urban History Association meeting in Los Angeles. The panel discussed two important questions: What is distinctive about Los Angeles as an urban experience and experiment? And what does L.A. tell us or teach us about urban life at this critical moment in U.S. history? Panelists included a mix of distinguished experts and commentators: historian Becky Nicolaides, L.A. Times journalist Gusta...
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2 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Then & Now
Important Update for Then & Now
We are redesigning Then & Now to better reach you, our listeners! Please fill out this survey before October 15, 2025, to let us know how we can improve, and be entered to win a FREE copy of Dr. Myers' book The Stakes of History. We look forward to your feedback! Survey link: https://tinyurl.com/Then-and-Now-Podcast-Survey
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3 months ago
1 minute

Then & Now
Race, Industry, and Resistance: A Conversation with Jennifer Klein.
In this week’s episode of then & now, guest host Dr. Ben Zdencanovic is joined by Dr. Jennifer Klein, the Bradford Durfee Professor of History at Yale University, to explore Cancer Alley, the stretch of the Mississippi River between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, Louisiana. Spanning roughly one hundred miles, Cancer Alley is densely packed with chemical plants, hazardous waste sites, and prisons, resulting in some of the highest rates of pollution in the country. Drawing together questions ...
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4 months ago
32 minutes

Then & Now
The Challenge to University Autonomy in an Illiberal Age: A Conversation with David N. Myers and Ben Zdencanovic.
In this week’s episode of then & now, LCHP Director Professor David N. Myers is joined by Dr. Ben Zdencanovic to discuss their collaborative work on a new LCHP report, The Challenge to University Autonomy in an Illiberal Age: Historical and Comparative Perspectives. Compiled over the past year as higher education in the U.S. faces heightened scrutiny and mounting political pressures from the U.S. government, this report situates present debates within a longue durée of institutional vulne...
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4 months ago
26 minutes

Then & Now
The Rise of the Religious Right in U.S. Politics: A Conversation with Neil J. Young.
In this week’s episode of then & now, LCHP Assistant Director Dr. Rose Campbell is joined by historian Dr. Neil J. Young to examine the evolution and ongoing influence of conservative Christian family values in contemporary U.S. political discourse. Neil offers a nuanced account of how ideals such as monogamy, cisgender heterosexual marriage, and rigid gender roles within a patriarchal framework became central both to conservative grassroots activism and to the ideological messaging of th...
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5 months ago
25 minutes

Then & Now
Defunding Big Bird: The Politics and History of Public Broadcasting. A Conversation with Josh Shepperd.
In this episode of then & now, guest host Dr. Ben Zdencanovic welcomes Professor Josh Shepperd, Associate Professor of Media Studies at the University of Colorado Boulder and Director of the Library of Congress Radio Preservation Task Force (RPTF). Josh, acclaimed author of Shadow of the New Deal: The Victory of Public Broadcasting (University of Illinois Press, 2023), discusses the complex historical development of NPR and PBS—two cornerstones of American public broadcasting. The convers...
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5 months ago
28 minutes

Then & Now
A Conversation with Pulitzer Prize Winner Benjamin Nathans: The Lives and Afterlives of the Soviet Dissident Movement.
In this week’s episode of then & now, we’re joined by Benjamin Nathans, Alan Charles Kors Endowed Term Professor of History at the University of Pennsylvania, to talk about his recent book, To the Success of Our Hopeless Cause: The Many Lives of the Soviet Dissident Movement (Princeton University Press, 2024)—which was awarded the 2025 Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction and the 2025 Pushkin House Book Prize. Ben offers an in-depth analysis of the Soviet dissident movement, fore...
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6 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes

Then & Now
The Sociolinguistics of Exclusion: Affirmative Action, DEI, and the Struggle for Belonging. A Conversation with Jamaal Muwwakkil.
In this episode of then & now, we are joined by Dr. Jamaal Muwwakkil, Chancellor’s Postdoctoral Fellow at UCLA and incoming Assistant Professor of Anthropology at the University of Washington, to discuss the recent rollback of affirmative action and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives in American universities. Jamaal examines how these changes—set in motion by the Supreme Court’s 2023 decision to end race-conscious admissions, alongside a rising political backlash against D...
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6 months ago
49 minutes

Then & Now
Coming Out Republican: The Gay Right and the Politics of Belonging. A Conversation with Neil J. Young.
In this week’s episode of then & now, LCHP Assistant Director Dr. Rose Campbell is joined by Dr. Neil J. Young—historian, podcaster, and author of Coming Out Republican (The University of Chicago Press, 2024), which traces the history of conservative and libertarian gay figures in United States history and their influence on the modern Republican Party. In this episode, Neil examines the evolving relationship between these members of the LGBTQ community—predominantly white gay men–and the...
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7 months ago
38 minutes

Then & Now
Mexico's Dirty War and the Struggle for Accountability: A Conversation with Carlos Pérez Ricart.
In this week’s episode of then & now, guest host Professor Fernando Pérez-Montesinos is joined by Carlos Pérez Ricart, Assistant Professor in International Relations at the Center for Economic Research and Teaching (CIDE) in Mexico City, to discuss Mexico’s Dirty War—an internal conflict from the 1960s to the 1980s between the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI)-ruled government and left-wing student and guerrilla groups. As one of the four members of Mexico’s truth commission from 20...
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7 months ago
47 minutes

Then & Now
Why History Matters: L.A. Wildfires Past, Present, and Future
In this week’s episode of then & now, we present a recording of a recent panel discussion focusing on L.A. wildfires past, present, and future. This program is part of the “Why History Matters” series presented by the UCLA Meyer and Renee Luskin Department of History—a series dedicated to the belief that historical knowledge is an indispensable, and often missing, ingredient in public debate. ”Why History Matters: L.A. Wildfires Past, Present, and Future,” brought experts together to exp...
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7 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes

Then & Now
Are There Limits to Presidential Power? A Conversation about the Unitary Executive Theory with John Mikhail.
In this week’s episode of then & now, we are joined by John Mikhail, Carroll Professor of Jurisprudence at Georgetown University Law Center, for a deep dive into the controversial theory of the unitary executive. Rooted in the Constitution’s Vesting Clause, this theory asserts that the president holds centralized control over the executive branch. While the theory has longstanding roots in constitutional debates, the Trump administration has embraced and expanded this interpretation in un...
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8 months ago
44 minutes

Then & Now
Donald Trump’s Uses (and Abuses) of History: A Conversation with Bruce Schulman.
This week’s episode of then & now is part of an occasional series exploring the past, present, and future of U.S. foreign policy and the U.S.-led international order. Guest host Dr. Ben Zdencanovic is joined by Bruce Schulman, Professor of History at Boston University, to discuss the Trump administration’s selective use of history, especially its nods to the McKinley era’s embrace of tariffs and imperialism. President Trump’s invocation of slogans like "Make America Great Again" reflects ...
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8 months ago
31 minutes

Then & Now
Preservation amidst Devastation: Salvaging Historic Tiles after the Los Angeles Wildfires. A Conversation with Conservator Amy Green.
This week’s episode of then & now is part of a series co-sponsored by the L.A. History Collaborative, in which we explore the impact of the catastrophic wildfires that affected Los Angeles in early 2025. We are joined by Amy Green, Principal of Silverlake Conservation and one of Los Angeles’ most seasoned historical conservators. She discusses her efforts to preserve intricately crafted tiles from the early 20th century that have been salvaged from homes in Altadena impacted by the fires ...
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8 months ago
35 minutes

Then & Now
Why History Matters in an Age of Polycrisis
In this week’s episode of then & now, we present a recording of a recent event co-sponsored by the Wende Museum and the Luskin Center for History and Policy. This event launched the Meyer and Renee Luskin Public History Program at the Wende Museum, a series made possible through the extraordinary generosity of Meyer and Renee Luskin, with a thought-provoking conversation on the role of history in shaping how we address today’s most urgent problems. Wende Museum Founder and Executive Dire...
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9 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes

Then & Now
Indigenous Fire Stewardship and Ecological Resilience: A Conversation with Daisy Ocampo Diaz.
This week’s episode of then & now is part of a series co-sponsored by the L.A. History Collaborative, in which we examine the effects of the devastating Los Angeles Wildfires in early 2025. Dr. Daisy Ocampo Diaz joins LCHP Assistant Director Dr. Rose Campbell to discuss the Fowler Museum’s exhibition Fire Kinship: Southern California Native Ecology and Art, one of the exhibitions associated with the Pacific Standard Time (PST) Art Initiative. The L.A. Wildfires highlighted the urgent need...
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9 months ago
42 minutes

Then & Now
Reconstructing German-Jewish Cultural Heritage after the Los Angeles Wildfires: A Conversation with E. Randol Schoenberg.
This week’s episode of then & now is part of a series examining the effects of one of the most powerful and destructive natural disasters in U.S. history: the Los Angeles Wildfires. Co-sponsored by the L.A. History Collaborative— a new consortium of cultural institutions and historians committed to using the tools of history to assist in the reconstruction of the lives and stories of those deeply affected by the L.A. Wildfires—we sit down with E. Randol Schoenberg, an LA-based lawyer and ...
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10 months ago
42 minutes

Then & Now
We are excited to announce that we will be relaunching in 2026 under a new name! Starting in January 2026, you can find us on your favorite podcast platform under our new name: Putting the Past to Work: The History-Policy Podcast at UCLA! We will continue interviewing historians and policy-makers and providing important historical contexts for the policy debates of today. Thank you for listening!