In this episode, hosts Liz and Mel engage in a profound discussion about the stigma surrounding mental health, particularly among first responders. They are joined by Laz, a police officer, and Carolyn, the founder of the First Alarm Foundation, who share personal experiences and insights from a survey conducted with over 500 first responders. The conversation highlights the cultural barriers that prevent open discussions about mental health, the urgent need for support systems, and the alarming statistics regarding mental health issues in this community. The episode emphasizes the importance of breaking the stigma, providing adequate mental health resources, and fostering a culture of openness and support for first responders.