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Therapists Say
Liz Steuerwald, Mel Riesgo , William Berry
15 episodes
5 days ago
Ever wonder what your therapist really thinks when you say “this might sound crazy…”? Welcome to Therapists Say — the podcast where three real therapists (who also happen to run businesses, raise kids, and spiral regularly) talk about what it's actually like behind the scenes. Join Liz, Mel, and Berry as they unpack the highs, lows, and hilarious moments of being in the mental health world — with zero fluff, plenty of sarcasm, and the occasional “Should we cut that?” moment. It’s unfiltered, unpolished, and probably something we’ll overanalyze later. But hey — that’s showbiz, baby.
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Ever wonder what your therapist really thinks when you say “this might sound crazy…”? Welcome to Therapists Say — the podcast where three real therapists (who also happen to run businesses, raise kids, and spiral regularly) talk about what it's actually like behind the scenes. Join Liz, Mel, and Berry as they unpack the highs, lows, and hilarious moments of being in the mental health world — with zero fluff, plenty of sarcasm, and the occasional “Should we cut that?” moment. It’s unfiltered, unpolished, and probably something we’ll overanalyze later. But hey — that’s showbiz, baby.
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Mental Health
Health & Fitness
Episodes (15/15)
Therapists Say
You’re Using That Term Wrong: A Public Service Announcement

In this episode of Therapist Say, hosts Mel, Liz, and Berry kick off Season Three by discussing psychological terms and their correct usage. They explore common misconceptions surrounding terms like narcissism, gaslighting, love bombing, and trauma bonding, emphasizing the importance of understanding these concepts accurately. The conversation highlights how these terms are often misapplied in everyday discussions, particularly in the context of relationships and emotional abuse. The hosts aim to educate listeners on the nuances of these psychological concepts, encouraging a more informed dialogue around mental health and interpersonal dynamics.

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5 days ago
52 minutes 22 seconds

Therapists Say
Season 2 Finale: Your Questions, Our Answers

In this conversation, Liz, Mel and Berry explore the complexities of emotional intimacy in relationships, the transformative impact of therapy on personal growth, the dynamics of communication styles during conflicts, and the interplay between genetics and environment in shaping intelligence. They delve into how therapists navigate these themes in their personal and professional lives, offering insights and reflections on their experiences.

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2 weeks ago
52 minutes 42 seconds

Therapists Say
Family Roles: Blame It on Birth Order

In this episode, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about astrology, personality tests, and the complexities of family dynamics. They explore the lack of scientific evidence surrounding astrology, share personal anecdotes about their family roles, and reflect on the challenges of breaking free from these roles. The conversation delves into the impact of birth order on personality and relationships, emphasizing the unconscious nature of these dynamics and the difficulty of change.

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1 month ago
1 hour 1 minute 29 seconds

Therapists Say
Opposites Attract vs. Birds of a Feather Flock Together: Let's Overthink it!

In this episode of Therapist's Say, hosts Mel, Liz, and Berry delve into the complexities of relationships, exploring the age-old question of whether opposites attract or if birds of a feather flock together. They reflect on their therapeutic styles, personal experiences, and the dynamics of attraction, discussing how similarities and differences play a crucial role in relationship longevity. The conversation also touches on the unconscious motivations behind attraction and the importance of understanding one's partner through a more conscious lens.



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1 month ago
47 minutes 39 seconds

Therapists Say
Do Therapists Pick Theories...or Do Theories Pick Them?

In this episode of Therapist Say, hosts Mel, Liz and Berry engage in a lively discussion about the influence of personality tests on therapeutic approaches. The conversation delves into the nuances of different therapeutic styles and how personality traits shape the way therapists conceptualize and engage with clients. The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of authenticity in therapy and the evolving nature of personal and professional identities.



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2 months ago
50 minutes 40 seconds

Therapists Say
How to Spot a Sociopath (Without Dating One)

In this episode of Therapists Say, the hosts engage in a lively discussion about relationships, family dynamics, and the complexities of sociopathy and psychopathy. They explore the differences between clinical definitions and pop culture portrayals, the impact of technology on human interaction, and the importance of community and empathy in society. The conversation also touches on personality traits related to antisocial behavior and the hosts' personal experiences and reflections on these topics.


Chapters

00:00 Feedback and Family Dynamics

02:41 Shrink Wrap and Super Fan Stickers

05:31 Dating and Trust Issues

06:35 Meet and Greet Plans

09:19 Sociopathy vs. Psychopathy

12:13 Understanding Antisocial Personality Disorder

14:45 The Role of Empathy in Sociopathy

17:03 Pop Culture vs. Clinical Definitions

19:28 Personal Reflections on Personality Disorders

28:55 Exploring Dark Thoughts and Personality Disorders

33:27 The Complexity of Antisocial Personality Disorder

39:04 The Impact of Technology on Community and Connection

50:49 Striving for Peace and Love in a Self-Centered World

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2 months ago
59 minutes 18 seconds

Therapists Say
Love at First Sight: 60 Minutes or Less

Summary


In this episode of Therapy Say, hosts Mel, Liz, and Berry explore various themes surrounding relationships, personal growth, and family dynamics. They discuss the significance of feedback in relationships, the meaning behind personal tattoos, and the complexities of parenting. The conversation delves into the concept of love at first sight, questioning its validity and exploring the idea of arranged marriages and their potential for love and happiness. Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasize the importance of self-disclosure, communication, and continuous effort in maintaining healthy relationships.

Chapters


00:00 Introduction and Technical Setup

00:36 Naming the Segment: A Collaborative Effort

06:49 The Tattoo Story: Personal Growth and Meaning

07:48 Follow-Up on Previous Episodes: Family Dynamics and Bullying

21:17 The Big Question: Love at First Sight?

33:46 Exploring Love at First Sight

40:07 The Psychology of Attraction

47:15 Defining Love and Infatuation

52:28 The Concept of Soulmates

58:17 Arranged Marriages and Love

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2 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 33 seconds

Therapists Say
Pathologizing Ourselves for Fun

In this episode of Therapist's Say, hosts Mel, Liz, and Barry engage in a lively discussion that covers a range of topics from personal anecdotes to psychological insights. They explore the concept of 'Correction Corner', share experiences from their classes, and delve into the interpretations of dreams provided by students. The conversation shifts to self-disclosure, where they reflect on their personal lives and guilty pleasures, particularly focusing on the psychology behind these pleasures. The hosts also discuss the fascination with morbid topics and how family dynamics influence their interactions. The episode wraps up with reflections on their roles as therapists and the importance of being relatable to their audience.


Keywords


therapy, self-disclosure, guilty pleasures, dream interpretation, family dynamics, psychology, entertainment, morbid curiosity, personal insights, podcast



Summary


In this episode of Therapist's Say, hosts Mel, Liz, and Barry engage in a lively discussion that covers a range of topics from personal anecdotes to psychological insights. They explore the concept of 'Correction Corner', share experiences from their classes, and delve into the interpretations of dreams provided by students. The conversation shifts to self-disclosure, where they reflect on their personal lives and guilty pleasures, particularly focusing on the psychology behind these pleasures. The hosts also discuss the fascination with morbid topics and how family dynamics influence their interactions. The episode wraps up with reflections on their roles as therapists and the importance of being relatable to their audience.



Takeaways


Self-disclosure can enhance the therapeutic relationship.

Guilty pleasures often serve as a form of escapism.

Dream interpretations can reveal deeper insights about individuals.

Family dynamics play a significant role in personal behavior.

Morbid curiosity is a natural human tendency.

Entertainment preferences can reflect psychological needs.

Engaging in humor can foster connection among hosts.

The importance of audience engagement in podcasting.

Understanding one's own biases can improve therapy practice.

Therapists are also human and have their own struggles.



Titles


Exploring the Depths of Therapy

Guilty Pleasures and Psychological Insights



Sound bites


"I think we should have just a little bit"

"I think we all need escapes"

"I think it just resonates with me a lot"



Chapters


00:00 Podcast Structure and Corrections

07:05 Dream Interpretations and Insights

11:39 Starbucks Story and Self-Image

13:22 Gender Roles and Leadership

15:21 Listener Engagement and Podcast Naming

17:28 Merchandise and Fundraising for Therapy

20:06 Guilty Pleasures and Psychological Attraction

28:50 Parasocial Relationships and Celebrity Culture

34:32 Morbid Curiosity and Fascination with Crime

36:37 Confronting Fear and Death

38:54 Guilty Pleasures: Murder and Fantasy

42:57 The Need for Cognitive Closure

44:02 Childhood Dynamics and Family Systems

50:08 The Complexity of Relationships

59:13 Vulnerability and Self-Disclosure


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3 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 17 seconds

Therapists Say
Healing? In This Economy?

In this episode, the hosts engage in a candid discussion about emotional readiness for relationships, the healing process after breakups, and the various coping mechanisms people employ. They explore the complexities of judgment in relationships and the importance of self-awareness. The conversation delves into the idea that healing is a personal journey and that individuals often do their best with the resources they have. The hosts share personal experiences and insights, emphasizing the need for honesty and understanding in navigating relationships and emotional health.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction and Correction Corner

03:41 Exploring Emotional Readiness for Relationships

06:25 The Impact of Past Relationships on New Ones

07:06 Judgment and Healing in Relationships

14:00 The Role of Relationships in Personal Growth

19:37 Unhealthy Coping Mechanisms After Breakups

20:29 Navigating Post-Breakup Friendships

23:13 The Complexity of Breakup Emotions

28:21 Coping Mechanisms After Heartbreak

34:11 The Role of Self-Reflection in Healing

36:34 Finding Solitude and Self-Acceptance

46:45 Relationships and Recovery: A Delicate Balance




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3 months ago
54 minutes 32 seconds

Therapists Say
It Was Just a Dream (Or Was It?)

In this episode, the hosts engage in a light-hearted yet profound discussion about dreams, personal experiences, and the dynamics of their relationships. They explore the significance of dreams, particularly nightmares, and how they reflect underlying anxieties and fears. The conversation shifts to the importance of silent retreats and self-reflection, culminating in a humorous yet insightful analysis of a dream involving Michael Bublé, which serves as a metaphor for joy, romance, and the balance of masculine and feminine energies in their lives.


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4 months ago
59 minutes 17 seconds

Therapists Say
Text Me Back (It’s My Attachment Style)

In this episode of Therapist Say, hosts Mel, Liz, and Barry delve into the complexities of attachment theory, exploring how our early experiences with caregivers shape our attachment styles. They discuss the different types of attachment styles, the impact of personal relationships on these styles, and how anxiety from childhood can influence adult relationships. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of sexual relationships and the importance of communication between partners. The hosts share personal anecdotes and insights, making the topic relatable and engaging for listeners.Text Me Back (It’s My Attachment Style)


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4 months ago
38 minutes 21 seconds

Therapists Say
Therapize Me, Bot (And Other Deeply Human Problems)

In this episode, the hosts discuss various aspects of therapy, including the potential role of AI therapists, the importance of human connection, and the fears clients have about judgment. They explore how technology impacts mental health, the risks and benefits of psychedelics in therapy, and how therapeutic approaches have evolved over time. The conversation also touches on the philosophical question of free will and how much control we truly have over our decisions.



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5 months ago
53 minutes 58 seconds

Therapists Say
AI, Existential Crises, and Gender Roles—Oh My!

In this episode of 'Therapists Say', hosts Liz and Mel reconnect with their former professor William Berry after a six-month hiatus. They discuss the evolving landscape of therapy, particularly the impact of AI, the importance of existential psychology and mindfulness, and the dynamics of gender roles in relationships. The conversation delves into how emotional needs play a crucial role in therapy and personal relationships, highlighting the balance between traditional roles and modern expectations. The episode is rich with insights on therapy, personal growth, and the complexities of human connection.

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6 months ago
1 hour 14 minutes 50 seconds

Therapists Say
Heroes in Crisis: The Reality of First Responder Mental Health

In this episode, hosts Liz and Mel engage in a profound discussion about the stigma surrounding mental health, particularly among first responders. They are joined by Laz, a police officer, and Carolyn, the founder of the First Alarm Foundation, who share personal experiences and insights from a survey conducted with over 500 first responders. The conversation highlights the cultural barriers that prevent open discussions about mental health, the urgent need for support systems, and the alarming statistics regarding mental health issues in this community. The episode emphasizes the importance of breaking the stigma, providing adequate mental health resources, and fostering a culture of openness and support for first responders.

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1 year ago
1 hour 2 minutes 50 seconds

Therapists Say
Teen Alchemy & Parenting Woes

The conversation explores the impact of early childhood experiences on adolescent development, focusing on the concept of complex trauma and its effects on attachment, relational dynamics, and emotional regulation. It delves into the challenges of raising preteens and teenagers, addressing the balance between setting boundaries and fostering emotional connection. The discussion also highlights the importance of authenticity and individuation in adolescent development. The conversation delves into the impact of childhood experiences on parenting, the role of guilt and self-criticism, and the importance of vulnerability and authenticity in relationships. It explores the concept of complex trauma and its influence on parenting styles and emotional responses. The conversation emphasizes the need for self-reflection, emotional processing, and seeking support to break free from harmful patterns and create healthier relationships.



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1 year ago
1 hour 1 minute 59 seconds

Therapists Say
Ever wonder what your therapist really thinks when you say “this might sound crazy…”? Welcome to Therapists Say — the podcast where three real therapists (who also happen to run businesses, raise kids, and spiral regularly) talk about what it's actually like behind the scenes. Join Liz, Mel, and Berry as they unpack the highs, lows, and hilarious moments of being in the mental health world — with zero fluff, plenty of sarcasm, and the occasional “Should we cut that?” moment. It’s unfiltered, unpolished, and probably something we’ll overanalyze later. But hey — that’s showbiz, baby.