In this conversation, Aaron Ngor discusses the importance of building relationships within healthcare systems to streamline care. He shares his journey of developing a private practice and the significance of networking and outreach in providing effective care. Additionally, he highlights the innovative approach to sideline medicine for athletes and artists, showcasing how structured systems can enhance care delivery.
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Shelby and Corey Oshikoya discuss the importance of social determinants of health in athletic training. They explore how factors such as socioeconomic status, education, and community resources impact athletes' recovery and performance. Corey emphasizes the need for athletic trainers to incorporate these considerations into their practice, advocating for a holistic approach to care that includes mental health and nutrition. The discussion also highlights the challenges faced by athletic trainers in addressing these issues and the importance of self-care and community support.
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Three screening tools for social determinants of health:
https://www.aafp.org/pubs/fpm/blogs/inpractice/entry/social_determinants.html
Healthy People 2030: https://odphp.health.gov/healthypeople
Social Determinant of Health: Consideration for Athletic Health Care. Picha, et al, 2021: https://nata.kglmeridian.com/view/journals/attr/57/6/article-p521.xml?isSearch=true
Picha et al, 2024: Athletic Trainers’ Observations of Social Determinants of Health in the Collegiate Setting: A Card Study
In this two-part interview, Shelby Daly sits down with Payton McNabb, a former multi-sport student-athlete who became a national advocate for athlete safety and women’s rights after suffering a life-altering concussion during a high school volleyball game. Together, they discuss the evolving landscape of competitive sports, the role of athletic trainers in protecting athletes, and the growing debate around fairness, safety, and equity in women’s athletics.
In the second part, Shelby is joined by Dr. Simi to explore how athletic trainers and athletic departments can thoughtfully navigate these complex and often polarizing situations. They discuss strategies for fostering open, respectful conversations around inclusion and identity in sport, creating spaces that encourage understanding and dialogue rather than division or “cancel culture.” Inclusion can still mean excluding certain parties.
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John Jenkins discusses the critical role of preceptors in athletic training education. He shares his journey of how he got into the profession, the challenges and rewards of being a preceptor, and the importance of mentorship in shaping the next generation of athletic trainers. They explore the need for formal training for preceptors, the impact of ego on the profession, and the significance of building clinical confidence in students. The discussion emphasizes the importance of creating a positive learning environment and the need for continuous learning and collaboration within the field. We also address whether preceptors should be paid or not.
We also discuss if preceptors should be paid or not.
EPISODE SKELETON:Matt Campbell, an athletic trainer and founder of the virtual Midwest Concussion Clinic, discusses the evolution of concussion care, particularly in the context of telehealth. He emphasizes the importance of continuous education, the challenges faced in virtual evaluations, and the need for better advocacy and awareness in concussion management. The discussion also touches on the differences in care for athletic versus non-athletic populations, the significance of baseline testing, and the role of media in shaping public perception of concussions.
EPISODE SKELETON:David Restiano the founder of Sor Soap, a unique product designed for soft tissue mobilization, shares his journey from being a graphic designer to creating a wellness product that combines hygiene with muscle recovery. He discusses the challenges of launching Sor Soap, including finding a manufacturer and educating the public about the benefits of soft tissue mobilization. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-care for athletes, the impact of Shark Tank on his business, and future product innovations.
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EPISODE SKELETON:Mitch Hauschildt discusses the evolution of athletic training, emphasizing the importance of balancing various roles within the profession, the significance of networking, and the shift towards a performance mindset in sports medicine. He highlights the need for specialization in athletic training, the future of education in the field, and the value of athletic trainers in different settings. Additionally, Mitch explores the benefits of red light therapy and the growing importance of mental health in athletic training.
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Brian Barry, an experienced athletic trainer and advocate for the profession shares his journey into athletic training, pivotal moments in his career, and insights on leadership, community involvement, and the importance of business acumen in the field. The conversation also delves into the challenges faced by the NATA and the need for transparency and engagement within the organization. Brian emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, accountability, and effective communication in leadership roles, as well as the necessity for athletic trainers to take charge of their professional development and community engagement.
EPISODE SKELETON:Tamisha Guy, the founder of Hue Tape, talks about kinesiology tape designed for individuals with melanin-rich skin tones. Tamisha shares her inspiration for creating the product, the challenges she faced in the competitive textile industry, and her journey as an entrepreneur. She emphasizes the importance of inclusivity, quality, and representation in wellness products, and offers advice for aspiring entrepreneurs. The discussion also touches on the future plans for Hue Tape and the impact it aims to have in the sports medicine community.
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Marissa Villafuerte-Brooks, an athletic trainer in public safety, discussing the unique challenges and rewards of her role. Marissa shares insights on rehabilitation, the importance of workers' compensation, and the role of athletic trainers in injury prevention and management. The discussion highlights the significance of communication, tracking return on investment, and the complexities of working with public safety professionals.
We discuss the intricacies of injury prevention and management within public safety settings, particularly focusing on the challenges and opportunities presented by workers' compensation. She emphasizes the importance of building trust with public safety personnel, advocating for athletic trainers, and the evolving landscape of job opportunities in this field. The discussion also touches on the significance of data collection and the need for effective communication and networking among athletic trainers.
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Grace Savage, an expert in CPR and emergency care for athletic trainers, discuss the importance of CPR training, understanding cardiac arrest, and the need for continuous education and practice. Grace emphasizes the significance of clear communication and leadership during emergencies, as well as the emerging technologies that may enhance CPR effectiveness. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by athletic trainers in maintaining their skills and the importance of building relationships with local EMS for better emergency preparedness.
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Tyler Lesher discusses his journey of creating the EscaLAte Summit and ARC certification, emphasizing the importance of patient care, the need for safety nets, and the value of networking. He shares insights on the financial aspects of athletic training, the challenges faced by professionals, and the opportunities available in private practice. Tyler encourages aspiring athletic trainers to invest in themselves and build strong networks to succeed in their careers.
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In this episode, Shelby Daly discusses the new Continuing Professional Certification (CPC) program with Shannon Fleming and Heather Collins from the BOC. They explore the differences between the new CPC renewal and the legacy renewal, emphasizing the personalized and flexible approach to professional development. The conversation delves into the Pathfinder tool, which aids athletic trainers in setting goals, tracking progress, and reflecting on their learning. The hosts discuss the importance of meaningful continuing education, the value of the CPC program for athletic trainers, and how it can help demonstrate their value to employers and the healthcare system. They also address concerns about change and the future of certification in athletic training.
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In this conversation, Jared Maisel, an international athletic trainer, shares his experiences working in various countries, including China, Belgium, and Hong Kong. He discusses the unique challenges faced by athletic trainers abroad, the importance of networking and education, and the evolving role of athletic trainers in international schools. Jared emphasizes the need for collaboration among professionals and the significance of adapting to different healthcare systems. He also reflects on his personal growth through these experiences and offers advice for aspiring athletic trainers looking to work internationally.
Frances Gilbert, the director of athletic training for the Savannah Bananas, discusses the unique environment of Banana Ball, the evolution of athletic training within this entertainment-focused league, and the challenges and opportunities that come with it. She shares her journey from collegiate sports to professional athletic training, the importance of collaboration with other departments, and the need for continuous growth and adaptability in the field. The conversation highlights the balance between providing high-quality care for athletes while also ensuring an engaging experience for fans.www.thesavannahbananas.com
Shelby Daly and Adam Halpern discuss the current state of athletic training, focusing on the challenges and opportunities within the profession. They explore the impact of telehealth, the ongoing licensure debates, and the unique role of athletic trainers in healthcare. The discussion emphasizes the need for innovation, effective marketing, and strategic change to enhance the profession's visibility and value. They also touch on the importance of building relationships within the community and the necessity for athletic trainers to embrace their unique position as health navigators.
Can a simple pivot change your future trajectory toward success?
In this episode, we sit down with Alisha Pennington—athletic trainer turned entrepreneur—as she shares her powerful journey of transformation and strategic reinvention.
We dive into her new book, Power of the Pivot, and unpack:
-A practical framework for making aligned, strategic life decisions
-The courage it takes to advocate for yourself and embrace risk
-Why emotional and mental preparation is key to change
-How personal and professional growth are inseparably linked
Whether you're navigating a career transition or simply ready for your next chapter, this episode is a must-listen.
Make sure to get a copy of her book The Power of the PIVOT: A Strategic Guide to Aligning Action with Vision in Business by Alisha M Pennington and Maurice Pennington
Do athletic trainers need an increase in compensation, or could financial illiteracy holding ATs back from financial freedom?
Dr. Eric Fuchs discuss the critical aspects of retirement planning specifically for athletic trainers. We explore the importance of income, budgeting, and the necessity of starting retirement planning early. The discussion covers building an emergency fund, managing debt, and strategies for paying off loans. They also delve into retirement savings plans, the significance of employer contributions, and how to evaluate job offers in terms of total compensation. The conversation emphasizes the need for financial literacy and proactive planning to secure a stable financial future.
We go through the complexities of retirement planning, focusing on the importance of understanding pensions, 401k, and IRA management., emphasizing the need for individuals to take control of their financial futures, especially in a world where job changes are frequent. The discussion also covers strategies for catching up on retirement savings, the significance of defining retirement in terms of financial goals rather than age, and the necessity of investing wisely to combat inflation. Additionally, highlighting the role of financial advisors and the importance of having a solid financial plan.
Trish Bare Grounds, a seasoned athletic trainer with extensive experience in both traditional and non-traditional sports. Trish shares her journey from working in traditional athletic training to becoming a prominent figure in extreme sports and circus performance medicine. She discusses the importance of building trust with athletes, the challenges of working in diverse cultural settings, and the necessity of having comprehensive emergency action plans in high-risk environments.
Trish emphasizes the value of passion in athletic training and the unique experiences that come from working in non-traditional sports. In this conversation, she discusses her extensive experience in performance medicine, focusing on emergency preparedness, the establishment of her own business, and the challenges faced in the athletic training field. She emphasizes the importance of mentorship, liability insurance, and the need for better education in athletic training programs.
The dialogue also explores the dynamics of working in non-traditional sports and the significance of personality compatibility among team members. In this conversation, they emphasizing the need for practical experience, diversity in training, and the importance of creativity, independent thinking, and the necessity for better marketing of the profession. The discussion also touches on the autonomy of athletic trainers and the challenges posed by physician oversight, highlighting the need for a clearer definition of the scope of athletic training.
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Could a piece of the crumbling H2F puzzle be the weak messaging in distinguishing an athletic trainers value and worth through ROI?
Tyler Christensen discusses his interpretation of the evolving role of athletic trainers, particularly in light of the recent changes to the H2F program. Tyler shares his insights from his extensive experience in tactical strength and conditioning, emphasizing the importance of athletic trainers in bridging the injury rehabilitation and performance team, the unique reintegration that ATs bring to the table.
We explore the challenges faced by athletic trainers in promoting their value and the need for a clear return on investment (ROI) to secure their positions within athletic programs. The discussion highlights the necessity for ATs to define their unique contributions to the healthcare team and the importance of collaboration with other professionals in the field.
In this conversation we discuss the evolving role of ATs, particularly in military settings while exploring the financial implications when working with government contracts, the need for better integration within healthcare systems, and the importance of defining roles in human performance. The discussion also highlights the necessity of utilizing data to improve athletic training practices and the need for specialization within the profession. Finally, they address the business aspects of athletic training, emphasizing the importance of demonstrating return on investment (ROI) to secure the future of the profession.
Takeaways from Tyler:1) Clarity is being lost. “Human Performance” is becoming an overused buzzword, blurring the lines between wellness, fitness, and tactical readiness. If you want to protect your profession, define it clearly and communicate its unique value.
2) Stories aren’t strategies. Feel-good narratives have a place, but they don’t influence high-level decision-makers. Show your return on investment. Demonstrate outcomes that matter.
3) Leadership needs to own the message. We must clearly differentiate Human Performance from fitness and wellness programs and stop playing nice in the sandbox. Leadership should champion ROI messaging and draw a clear line in the sand that you are human performance and not wellness/fitness programs.
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