In this episode we talk to Jeff Pearey, a leasing expert who retired as senior director, UK regional office agency at JLL in August. Jeff reflects on his 40-plus years working in the property industry and outlines the changes he has seen across office markets like Leeds and Newcastle. He also explains what he has in common with petrolhead Jeremy Clarkson.

On this episode we talk to Melanie Leech, the British Property Federation's chief executive since 2015, about her unconventional route into commercial real estate, what the federation would like to see in the upcoming autumn Budget and the benefits of its merger with two other lobby groups. All this and a Donald Trump quote about real estate feature in the episode.