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Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Devon Hayes & Amanda Joyce
68 episodes
2 weeks ago
In this reflective episode of Trades Secrets, Amanda and Devon review everything that 2025 taught us about marketing, research, agency life, and more. What worked? What didn’t work? And most importantly, why. This is not just a look back. It’s a look forward - through the lens of curiosity, intentionality, and growth. The hosts also outline how they’re thinking about 2026: where to double down, what to release, and how to create work that aligns with your values. Key Takeaways: AI is he...
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In this reflective episode of Trades Secrets, Amanda and Devon review everything that 2025 taught us about marketing, research, agency life, and more. What worked? What didn’t work? And most importantly, why. This is not just a look back. It’s a look forward - through the lens of curiosity, intentionality, and growth. The hosts also outline how they’re thinking about 2026: where to double down, what to release, and how to create work that aligns with your values. Key Takeaways: AI is he...
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Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
2025 In Review - What You Can Expect In 2026 | Ep 67 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this reflective episode of Trades Secrets, Amanda and Devon review everything that 2025 taught us about marketing, research, agency life, and more. What worked? What didn’t work? And most importantly, why. This is not just a look back. It’s a look forward - through the lens of curiosity, intentionality, and growth. The hosts also outline how they’re thinking about 2026: where to double down, what to release, and how to create work that aligns with your values. Key Takeaways: AI is he...
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2 weeks ago
27 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
AI Hallucinations - What They Are and How to Fix Them | Ep 66 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this mind-bending episode, Amanda and Devon dive headfirst into the weird and wild world of AI hallucinations. What does it really mean when artificial intelligence "hallucinates"? Why do these systems sometimes get facts completely wrong with absolute confidence? And what can you do to stop it? Check out the Truth Protocol below to help your AI assistant stop hallucinating and start helping! The Truth Protocol: (Give this to your favorite chatbot) 1. Frame the claim. Specify the que...
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4 weeks ago
16 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Imposter Syndrome is a Superpower | Ep 65 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Everyone feels like a fraud sometimes. But what if that feeling isn’t a weakness, but a sign that you are growing into something bigger? In this episode of Trades Secrets, Devon and Amanda dive deep into imposter syndrome and reveal how it can actually become one of your greatest tools in business and marketing. Whether you’re a contractor building a business or a marketer trying to prove your value, this episode will help you rethink your self-doubt and turn it into fuel. Episode Highlights:...
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1 month ago
33 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
3 Ways to Generate More Leads in 2026 | Ep 64 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we are finally together in person for a special retreat edition of Trades Secrets. We share three simple and effective ways for contractors to attract more leads in 2026. Whether you are just getting started or running a large, established company, these lead generation strategies will help you bring in more business and grow consistently. We break down how to get a steady stream of Google reviews, how to use Google Local Service Ads (GLSA) to drive quality ...
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1 month ago
14 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Raise the Roofle: How Smart Contractors Are Selling Roofs in a Click | Ep 63 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode, we sit down with Roofle’s Matthew McDaniel and Chris Morris to uncover how instant roof quote technology is transforming the way contractors sell, market, and scale their businesses. From its early beginnings as a B2C experiment to its evolution into one of the most impactful SaaS platforms in home improvement, Roofle is helping contractors close more deals, build trust faster, and operate with unmatched efficiency. The conversation dives deep into how buyer behavior has shif...
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2 months ago
50 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Roofle-ution | Ep 62 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trade Secrets, we share our candid story of how we went from Roofle skeptics (the popular satellite-based roofing calculator) to becoming official resellers (and to be honest, huge fans). We break down how the tool has evolved over the last few years, what’s changed in buyer behavior, and why interactive quoting tools like Roofle are becoming essential for contractors in today’s digital-first marketplace. Episode Highlights: Then vs. Now: How Roofle went from slowing down w...
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2 months ago
10 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Why Paid Media Management Fees Exist | Ep 61 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trade Secrets, we pull back the curtain on one of the most misunderstood costs in contractor marketing: paid media management fees. Whether you’ve wondered why agencies charge 15-25% of ad spend or questioned what exactly happens behind the scenes, this conversation breaks it down in plain English. From Google Ads optimization to negative keyword management, reporting transparency, and how often campaigns really need a tune-up, we cover what contractors should expect (and d...
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3 months ago
18 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Shopping for a Marketing Agency in 2026 | Ep 60 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trade Secrets, we look ahead to one of the most important decisions contractors will face in the coming year: shopping for a marketing agency. Choosing between productized services, full-service partnerships, or even AI-driven tools isn’t easy, and the wrong move can waste both time and money. We break down how to evaluate whether you need lead generation, branding or both, and what to expect when you step into the agency world. If you already have an agency, we will go ove...
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3 months ago
43 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Goodbye Leads: What Kills Your LSA Ranking | Ep 59 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trade Secrets, we tackle one of the most frustrating—and powerful—tools in contractor marketing: Google Local Service Ads (LSAs). What used to be a golden ticket for lead generation has become a minefield of missed calls, dropped rankings, and Google’s ever-changing rules. We break down how LSAs actually work in 2025, what’s changed, and what you can do to get back in Google's good graces. From insider tips on profile optimization to the real consequences of missing one pho...
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7 months ago
32 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Content is Critical: Low Investment & High ROI | Ep 58 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trade Secrets, we take a deep dive into the real engine behind high-performing SEO: content—not the generic, AI-scraped fluff, but the kind that moves the needle, drives leads, and builds long-term authority. We peel back the curtain on how truly impactful content is created, sharing insights from years of working with contractors and real-world success stories that prove the ROI. You’ll learn what separates a $200 blog from one that generates thousands in revenue, why some...
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7 months ago
28 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
‘About Us’ Pages Are Really About Them | Ep 57 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we take a fresh look at one of the most overlooked—but most visited—pages on your website: the About Us page. Inspired by insights from Marcus Sheridan and supported by real data from their own client base, the hosts break down how to turn a stale About page into a powerful trust-building, conversion-driving asset. You’ll learn why a “me, me, me” approach falls flat—and how to write an About page that actually addresses what your customer cares about most: t...
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8 months ago
10 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Why Website Maintenance is a MUST in 2025 | Ep 56 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we unpack the confusing world of website hosting and maintenance—what it really means, why it matters, and how skipping it can hurt your business more than you realize. Through easy-to-understand analogies (like bad neighbors and bandwidth hogs), you’ll walk away with a clear understanding of what’s going on behind the scenes of your site—and how to keep it running smoothly, securely, and successfully. “It’s not like get a website built and forget about it f...
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8 months ago
10 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Remodeling Nightmare | Ep 55 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we dive into a raw, real-life remodeling nightmare—and the powerful lessons it holds for both contractors and homeowners. Hear a firsthand account of a 6-week project turned 20-week disaster, and what contractors can do differently to win customer trust, communicate better, and deliver an exceptional experience. Whether you’re a solo pro or run a full crew, this episode gives you an inside look into how homeowners think—and how you can stand out by simply do...
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9 months ago
37 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
AEO for Trades: How to Optimize Answers and Maximize Local Leads | Ep 54 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we explore how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is revolutionizing contractor marketing. Learn how AEO can help trade professionals optimize answers to customer questions and dominate local search rankings. We dive deep into actionable strategies to maximize local leads, leveraging AEO to position your business as the trusted authority in your market. “If you meet customers where they are with answers to their questions, you’re doing them a service—and build...
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11 months ago
34 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
The Contractors Guide to Video Marketing in 2025 | Ep 53 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we have the pleasure of talking to Carl Kwan, an expert video marketing strategist with a YouTube channel of over 121,000 subscribers. Together we talk about Video Marketers vs Videographers, Carl’s 2025 predictions, and the four videos you NEED to have for your contracting business come 2025. “People don’t realize YouTube is the world’s 2nd largest search engine” - Carl Kwan (a quote from today’s episode) Episode Highlights: Video Marketers vs Videographers...
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1 year ago
46 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Episode 52 - 10 Tips for Contractor Marketing
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we go over the top 10 tips for contractor marketing to help you improve business growth and customer acquisition. We emphasize the importance of having a solid foundation in place before ramping up marketing efforts. Whether you’re a small business, a roofing contractor, or just someone interested in knowing more about effective marketing practices, this is the episode you’ve been waiting for. Episode Highlights: TIP #1: Get your house in order before you do...
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1 year ago
23 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Episode 51 - Light Em' Up Website Roast
In this episode of Trades Secrets, we focus on critiquing and analyzing one of our client's websites. Inspired by “The Roast of Tom Brady”, we perform a detailed review of their website while also roasting some of its flaws along the way. Throughout the episode you will hear typical mistakes made on company websites, with areas of improvement pointed out with our explanation of why you should avoid them. This episode is perfect for business owners curious as to how they can improve their webs...
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1 year ago
24 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Episode 50 - The Google Leak: Sandboxin' Son of a
Welcome back contractors! In this episode, we dive into the biggest Google search algorithm leak in history, exposing thousands of APIs in a 2,500+ page document. We dissect just some of the bigger points from the leak, providing insights and actionable tips for contractors regarding search engine optimization (SEO) and website management. This is a must-watch for any contractor looking to gain insight and knowledge of the Google leak and wanting to capitalize on this valuable information! ...
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1 year ago
41 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Episode 49 - Tech Talk: Bringing Clarity to Marketing Jargon
Welcome back contractors! In this episode, we take a look at common marketing jargon you may have heard either with your marketing agency or on social media. If you’ve ever felt confused hearing some of these terms or want to have a better understanding of marketing lingo, then this is the episode for you! Episode Highlights: Host - The server where your website is hosted and storedDNS - Domain Name System, which translates domain names (like mywebsite.com) into IP addresses so browsers can...
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1 year ago
30 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
Episode 48 - Top 5 Episodes of 2023
Welcome back contractors! In this episode, we look back at our 5 best-performing episodes of 2023 based on engagements and other metrics. While revisiting these episodes we discuss why we think they were so popular and give an overview of the key points of those episodes. So if you’re new here we encourage you to go back and listen to those as most are still applicable in 2024! Episode Highlights: 5) Episode #8 - "Marketing During a Recession" - Discussed strategies for prioritizing marketi...
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1 year ago
15 minutes

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing
In this reflective episode of Trades Secrets, Amanda and Devon review everything that 2025 taught us about marketing, research, agency life, and more. What worked? What didn’t work? And most importantly, why. This is not just a look back. It’s a look forward - through the lens of curiosity, intentionality, and growth. The hosts also outline how they’re thinking about 2026: where to double down, what to release, and how to create work that aligns with your values. Key Takeaways: AI is he...