As we get older, our bodies, our priorities, and even the way we experience the lifestyle begin to shift. In this episode, all four hosts are back at the table to talk honestly about aging, self-image, and how time changes our perspective on play, connection, and identity.
Brad and Josie — both in their 50s — share what it feels like to realize they’re past the halfway point in life, while Brittany reflects on approaching that milestone, and Zack talks about only recently turning 40. Together, we ask: Is 50 really a turning point? When do you start to feel your mortality… or your freedom? And is the lifestyle a young person’s game, or does age bring its own kind of power?
We explore body confidence, the “I don’t give a f***” stage of life, the pressure some of us feel to “live bigger now” while we still can, and whether urgency, opportunity, and time shape our choices. We also talk about the strengths that come with age — experience, perspective, emotional maturity, and success — and how those benefits can sometimes feel at odds with the expectations of the lifestyle.
Of course, we keep it real with plenty of humor too… including joking about when we finally get to “give up,” skip the gym, eat whatever we want, and go off the rails. 😉
We wrap with a reminder that pleasure, connection, and adventure don’t expire — and that the lifestyle can be meaningful, fun, and fulfilling at any age.
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(00:00:00) Insecurities about age
(00:05:09) Perception of age is changing
(00:09:25) The lifestyle is a young person’s game
(00:10:35) You’re never too old to have sex
(00:11:38) Times have changed and society is shifting
(00:15:33) Age bursts
(00:20:39) At what age will we no longer be attractive to younger people
(00:23:16) Not disclosing your age
(00:25:40) Carpe diem
(00:29:16) Aging can feel limiting
(00:31:58) Aging is also a blessing
(00:33:45) It’s a 50’s thing
(00:35:10) I don’t want the clock to run out
(00:37:17) I thought the lifestyle is a short term project
(00:39:54) Times have changed and so has the lifestyle
(00:43:48) Stages and cycles of the lifestyle
(00:45:24) Age plays into sexual liberation
(00:48:38) Our perspectives changed in less than an hour
(00:51:13) My journey isn’t about age although aging is part of the journey
(00:52:34) The age when you stop giving a fuck
(00:55:24) Not giving a fuck
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To celebrate our first full year of Two Plus Two, we’re pulling back the curtain and sharing some of our favorite private conversations, outrageous stories, and unforgettable play moments. In this milestone episode, Zack and Josie revisit a fun, sexy, weird, and wonderfully awkward party encounter — and yes, they spill all the dirty details.
Your Two Plus Two crew also has some fun shaking up the opener, including outtakes from Brad’s dramatic “sexy vampires” intro. We chat about a single vanilla guy who proudly declared himself a slut — and somehow ended up sharing his opinions on vaginas, STDs, and his vast collection of experiences. Zack and Josie also recount a hot play session with a pair of Two Plus Two listeners, and we open up about some of our own intimate moments with our partners along the way.
From joking about handing out goodie bags at our orgies, to the guys teasing us about finishing their sentences, the conversation veers between playful, personal, and downright hilarious. Brad and Brittany share a wild lifestyle weekend story where Brittany’s insatiable sex drive turned Brad into a human Sybian — even after he tucked her into bed… more than once.
We also laugh about how vanillas see swingers in public (and what happens when we let them in on the secret), and we dive into a conversation about Zack’s first wife being Mormon — which leads us into the curious world of “soaking” and “docking.”
It’s raw, real, sexy, nostalgic, and the perfect way to celebrate one amazing year of stories, laughter, connection, and community.
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(00:00:00) An intro mash up
(00:01:02) The play by play of an interesting play experience
(00:11:39) Outtakes and fun banter
(00:12:39) Shweddy Balls and Sexy Vampires
(00:14:10) Stinky vaginas and drippy penises
(00:17:04) Mismatched experiences and revelations
(00:19:39) A fun play experience with two of our listeners
(00:25:17) I found a new button!
(00:28:10) Fun marital banter
(00:29:09) Orgy swag and vampire tattoos
(00:29:49) Marital communication and ‘loss of words’
(00:31:47) Intro change-up outtakes
(00:34:20) Sugar lips…stroke my ego…stay humble
(00:37:53) Body shaming, judgment, confidence and insecurity
(00:40:50) Dressing for your bodytype
(00:42:52) Podcast ‘celebrities’
(00:46:27) FOMO and dirty martinis
(00:48:06) She was like a little kid who wouldn’t stay in bed
(00:50:26) She shredded a guitar on her clit
(00:52:19) I had my dick flicked
(00:55:01) Phone a friend
(00:55:25) Those people are so friendly!
(00:59:37) Soaking and docking
(01:03:29) Ex bashing
(01:06:34) We evolve and get better
(01:09:01) Zack’s microphone and Josie’s music box
(01:10:41) Josie’s karaoke machine
(01:11:25) A sneaky lube run
(01:13:02) A Mexican Special
(01:14:12) Going down with Two Plus Two with Elevated Fun
(01:16:10) Josie’s elevator impression
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Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sit down to tackle a question nearly every lifestyle couple has wrestled with: how many dates does it really take to get to a “yes”?
They talk through what it’s like meeting a couple for the first time—those moments when the chemistry is instant and the energy exchange makes the decision easy, and the more complicated scenarios where one partner is a clear “yes” while the other sits in a frustrating gray area of “neutral.” The hosts unpack what “neutral” really means, how to shift out of it with intention, and how to decide whether to move forward—or confidently say no.
The conversation dives deep into the risks of playing when one partner is still neutral. What happens if the experience doesn’t go well? Could it lead to regret, resentment, or hesitation in future situations? They explore how neutral energy can impact not just the couple, but everyone involved in a play dynamic, and why “neutral” often isn’t neutral at all—it’s a need for more information, clarity, or context.
They also challenge the idea that more dates always lead to better outcomes, discussing how too much time or too many vanilla-setting meetups can actually shift desire toward a “no.” The hosts share their frustrations with couples who need multiple dates before making a decision and contrast that with how lifestyle vacations—like the Bliss Cruise—can completely change expectations, timelines, and energy.
If you’ve ever struggled with mismatched interest levels, decision fatigue, or figuring out when to lean in versus walk away, this episode offers honest insight, thoughtful reflection, and plenty of “we’ve been there” moments.
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(00:00:00) Too much ‘information’
(00:04:19) Making decisions and finding common ground
(00:10:17) Saying ‘yes’ when one partner is neutral
(00:11:21) Sometimes one partner takes the lead
(00:15:52) Gauging and communicating interest can be challenging
(00:20:46) We are working on being more decisive and communicative
(00:23:59) Determining the time and effort to invest in a couple
(00:30:40) Relationships that stay vanilla too long can become awkward
(00:32:30) Changing the context of a second meeting can be helpful
(00:33:22) Situations where one partner is less interested than the other
(00:36:00) Communicating during a session if one partner is not having fun
(00:38:22) Lifestyle travel may change expectations
(00:40:47) LS travel environments can also act as accelerant
(00:44:13) European lifestyle clubs may inhibit verbal connection
(00:48:44) Where are we at with this couple….really?
(00:53:45) When the Two Plus Two Crew met for the first time
(00:55:46) Shifting out of neutral
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Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back and gearing up for one of the biggest lifestyle trips of the year: the upcoming Bliss Cruise on Radiance of the Seas this February. From liberation and sexploration to planning, packing, and prepping, this episode dives into everything we’re excited about (and a few things we’re bracing for).
We talk about the tighter February timeline, Zack’s ongoing love–hate relationship with Bliss, and what made our second cruise feel completely different from our first. We’re leveling up this year—starting with a pre-cruise stop at Trapeze and a plan to wander elevators, mics in hand, to capture spontaneous conversations with fellow cruisers.
We share why our Bliss experience keeps getting better, how the Bliss app has become a total game-changer, and why fitting everything into one trip might be our biggest challenge yet. We also look ahead to Bliss’ 10th anniversary in 2026, review the theme nights for February, and remind everyone (again!) to take photos—because cover stories need photographic proof.
If you’re heading on a Bliss Cruise soon—or just curious what these trips are really like—this episode offers excitement, insight, and a few laughs along the way.
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(00:00:00) Liberation, sexploration and letting go
(00:04:05) A more condensed timeline in February
(00:04:33) Zack’s love hate relationship
(00:06:20) What was different from about our second Bliss vs our first
(00:07:20) We plan to hang out in elevators and record conversations with people
(00:08:19) Our experience gets better every time
(00:10:45) This year we’re going to Trapeze before the cruise
(00:15:18) The Bliss app is a game changer!
(00:18:04) Fitting it all in may be challenging
(00:19:52) Bliss’ 10th Anniversary November 2026
(00:20:25) Theme Nights for Radiance Feb 2026
(00:24:52) Remember to take photos!
(00:25:35) Cover stories and photographic proof
(00:31:35) What we’re looking forward to most
(00:35:53) Taking back control and focusing on each other and our experience
(00:38:16) Being inward focused creates energy that others are drawn to
(00:40:59) We want to experience new things
(00:43:54) STI testing and Mycoplasma genitalium
(00:45:47) Other good cruise preparation tips
(00:47:01) Re-entry is challenging
Clinical Immunity 10 Day Intensive
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Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back together for a candid and relatable conversation about something nearly every lifestyle couple experiences: the natural ebb and flow of connection, opportunity, and energy in the lifestyle. Some seasons feel packed with parties, meetups, new couples, and constant social obligations. Other times, it seems no one is available, nothing’s happening, and you’re left wondering if the spark moved on without you. And if you’ve ever found yourself comparing your quiet moments to your friends’ busy ones, you’re definitely not alone.
They explore how their own journeys have evolved, and how personal circumstances can directly shape your lifestyle experiences. Zack and Josie share how they’re on a journey to rediscover their vibe, while Brad and Brittany talk about meeting new couples through mutual friends and finding fresh chemistry in unexpected places.
This episode is an invitation to reflect, laugh, relate, and maybe even rethink your own lifestyle rhythm. Whether you’re in a hot streak, a lull, or somewhere in between, you’ll find pieces of your journey in this conversation—and maybe a little inspiration for what comes next.
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(00:00:00) What qualifies as a lull
(00:05:20) Questioning ourselves when we don’t connect with anyone
(00:09:00) Consciously making the choice to relax and relieve the pressure
(00:14:11) Zack and Josie are reevaluating the lifestyle
(00:16:54) Brittany just wants to let go while Brad wants more sexual experiences
(00:19:44) The definition of the lull is the repeat pattern of situations that fall flat
(00:21:25) Choosing the situations where you have the most ‘success’ and avoiding others
(00:23:56) Reflecting on what’s happened and what’s changed since our last ‘roll’
(00:26:32) Friends with benefits and familiarity
(00:31:04) The aha moment….balancing familiarity with newness
(00:32:43) Preferences evolve just like everything else in the lifestyle
(00:34:22) Comparing is human nature
(00:37:53) Comparing your real life to everyone else’s highlight reels
(00:40:16) Your life also impacts the lifestyle
(00:44:16) Is there a wrong way to ‘do’ the lifestyle
(00:46:09) What’s it all for and what’s next?
(00:47:54) We hit our ceiling but have enjoyed meeting friends of friends
(00:50:56) There are only two things we want in this lifestyle
(00:51:46) Pressure or lack of pressure during a roll vs a lull
(00:55:18) Balancing familiarity and newness
(00:56:35) Parting advice
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In this episode, hosts Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Ferdinand the bull, to explore the real, often-unspoken complexities of being a single male navigating ENM spaces. Ferdinand shares how he first entered the lifestyle at the encouragement of his then-wife, who never chose to participate herself. Now eight years, a divorce, and countless connections later, he finds himself at a crossroads: dating in the vanilla world while weighing whether he can—or should—remain in the lifestyle community he’s grown so deeply attached to.
The hosts dig into the nuanced decisions single men face, including when to disclose lifestyle involvement to vanilla partners, and the unique blend of freedom, connection, and emotional intelligence that strong bulls cultivate. Ferdinand opens up about both the highs and the lows: the excitement of partnered experiences, the intimacy he builds with couples, and the loneliness being a bull can create.
Together, they unpack the dynamics between bulls and couples, the financial realities of being a single male in lifestyle spaces, and the stereotypes that make forming genuine connections harder than most people realize. Ferdinand also offers grounded, experience-based advice for single men curious about entering the lifestyle—highlighting why assertiveness paired with respect is essential, and why aggression never works.
This episode offers an honest look at what single men gain from the lifestyle that traditional dating can’t provide, and what it truly costs, emotionally and financially, to walk this path.
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(00:00:00) Good luck Chuck
(00:02:00) How I found the lifestyle
(00:04:46) Friends with benefits
(00:06:09) Being a bull in the lifestyle can be lonely
(00:07:45) Evolving in the lifestyle over the last 8 years
(00:08:50) Navigating the LS can be difficult and rejection is common
(00:09:36) I shared my sexual experiences with my wife
(00:10:17) Dating vanillas while you’re in the lifestyle
(00:13:03) Benefits and drawbacks of being a bull
(00:14:24) Bringing a new partner into the lifestyle
(00:16:25) Favorite lifestyle events or activities
(00:19:01) Advice for single males entering the lifestyle
(00:22:33) The bull / couple dynamics
(00:24:41) Lifestyle scenarios
(00:29:39) Assumptions people make about bulls
(00:33:07) What singles get out of the lifestyle
(00:34:18) Addressing sexual orientation
(00:36:05) I’m a good first experience for couples
(00:37:02) Catching feelings
(00:38:10) Being a bull is expensive
(00:39:01) How they begin and how I conduct myself in play sessions
(00:40:01) Communication and emotional intelligence
(00:43:59) A good learning experience
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In this week’s episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the most universally frustrating parts of the lifestyle: communication… or the lack of it. From last-minute confirmations that never come to couples who keep others dangling “just in case,” the crew unpacks the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways poor communication can waste time, strain friendships, and complicate connections.
They explore why it feels so disrespectful when couples make plans but go silent when it’s time to confirm, and how annoying it is when someone breaks a commitment and then disappears—only to ask you to suggest a new time and never respond. The hosts also share their collective experience with a notoriously flaky couple whose repeated excuses have become a running theme in their local community.
The conversation moves into whether people owe each other explanations when interest fades, or whether being honest only invites unnecessary drama. They also examine the sting of being ghosted by close friends, and the gray area where “ghosting” isn’t so clear—especially in a dynamic with multiple people, mismatched levels of interest, or partners who aren’t on the same page.
Ultimately, the group acknowledges what everyone secretly knows: the lifestyle is awkward, interest is complicated, and communication between couples is hard. But understanding how these behaviors affect others—and recognizing the subjectivity of what counts as ghosting—can make navigating it all just a little easier.
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(00:00:00) The sizzle fizzle
(00:02:23) The times when we’ve flaked or ghosted
(00:04:02) Communication is great….then crickets!
(00:05:55) Ranting about coordinating with people who are traveling
(00:14:00) Speculating on why people may flake or ghost
(00:16:34) Letting people know you’re not interested so they don’t wonder
(00:17:42) A local couple with a reputation for expressing interest and not following through
(00:22:24) The local lifestyle scene
(00:26:38) Another rant about a gh osting scenario
(00:29:12) Being honest about your true interest
(00:31:00) Texting etiquette
(00:34:26) When too much time passes between responses
(00:38:00) Challenges in identifying and connecting with couples online
(00:40:25) How honest should you be when breaking plans?
(00:43:18) When friends ghost you
(00:48:28) Ghosting is subjective and may not always be a bad thing
(00:51:58) Be kind, honest, direct, respectful and don’t string people along
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This week, Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Callie — a Physician Assistant who works in the ER and has seen it all — to talk about one of the most important topics in the swinger lifestyle: sexual health.
Callie breaks down what everyone in the lifestyle should know about STI prevention, testing, and risk management. She explains how your risk isn’t just about your behavior, but also the behavior of your partners — and why trust, responsibility, and regular testing are essential for keeping everyone safe.
From women’s vaginal health and condom sensitivity to UTI prevention and the realities of unprotected oral sex, the conversation covers the practical side of pleasure. Callie also sheds light on HPV, how the vaccine has evolved, and how to approach testing — whether you test with your partner or alternate schedules.
Throughout the episode, the Crew explores how understanding your own risk tolerance, staying informed, and choosing responsible play partners can make all the difference. Because in the lifestyle, good sexual health isn’t just about protection — it’s about connection, communication, and confidence.
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(00:00:00) Callie is a PA and has 10 years of ER experience
(00:02:51) Fantasies - the gateway drug
(00:04:00) Condom use is a personal choice but there are risks
(00:06:49) This information is only an opinion and is not medical advice
(00:07:30) Anal tissue is more easily broken down so risk of STI is higher with anal sex
(00:08:29) Condoms and vaginal health
(00:10:00) More facts about vaginas
(00:11:11) Post menopausal vaginal decline, treatment and UTI prevention
(00:13:40) Condom use can be frustrating for men
(00:15:11) Oral sex and STI risks
(00:16:35) Deep dive on HPV
(00:19:39) The risks associated with oral vs vaginal sex are less severe
(00:20:26) Difference between STI ‘ and STD’s
(00:21:06) STI testing frequency and most common STI’s
(00:23:05) Throat and anal swabs by request only
(00:23:54) Most STI’s are asymptomatic so you have to test regularly
(00:25:11) STI testing funnies
(00:27:42) Testing frequency and alternating testing with your partner
(00:30:00) The partners you choose may influence testing frequency
(00:30:43) Sharing or asking for most recent test results
(00:34:50) You should be testing for these STI’s
(00:37:37) PREP
(00:39:30) Doxy PEP
(00:41:35) Prevention - condoms, regular testing, partners and substances
(00:43:00) Drugs, alcohol and high risk activities
(00:45:00) Gauging risk has a lot to do with the people and your intuition
(00:46:48) Trimix
(00:48:00) Stranger things…ER edition
(00:50:46) Preventative vaccines and screenings Callie recommends
(00:51:32) STI treatment app from CDC very helpful
(00:52:02) USPSTF - United States Preventative Services Task Force
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Health care considerations for sex workers
Chlamydia and gonorrhea (Basics)
Sexually transmitted infections (Basics)
Sexually transmitted infection screening recommendations by sex assigned at birth and population
The five Ps: Partners, prevention of pregnancy, protection from STIs, practices, and past history of STIs
Why men who have sex with men have an increased risk of STIs
This week, the Two Plus Two Crew tackles a playful term with some serious depth — premature evacuation. No, not that kind — we’re talking about those moments when play ends earlier than planned and all the emotions that can come with it.
Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany open up about the messy, human side of swinging — from people-pleasing and communication breakdowns to triggers and shame. Josie shares a few personal experiences that highlight how past trauma can resurface in unexpected ways, and the group talks candidly about how to give ourselves and our partners grace when those moments happen.
They dig into the importance of being honest with ourselves, clear with our partners, and compassionate with our playmates — because no one can read our minds, no matter how in sync we think we are. The Crew also shares tips for better communication and staying connected even when things don’t go as planned.
Of course, there are still plenty of laughs — at each other’s expense and their own — as they explore how the lifestyle continues to challenge, teach, and strengthen their relationships.
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(00:00:00) What is premature evacuation?
(00:02:09) A traumatic play experience
(00:08:09) Nobody was doing anything wrong
(00:10:24) Feeling shame for not self-advocating
(00:19:24) Brad learns he has the perfect cock for anal
(00:21:07) Other people aren’t aware of our triggers
(00:23:26) There was no malicious intent
(00:26:11) Listeners who become play partners
(00:26:48) We don’t know what we don’t know
(00:28:56) Evolving in the lifestyle
(00:29:49) Some people will try to push your boundaries
(00:34:39) Are we being instinctual or over critical?
(00:37:39) Assessing potential play partners to ensure a positive experience
(00:39:45) Positive or negative bias will impact your choices and decisions
(00:43:44) Considering changing our approach to serve us better
(00:46:37) Looking at your results and deciding whether you want to make changes
(00:48:55) Comparing your own results with others you see in the lifestyle
(00:50:22) Assessing our own risk tolerance
(00:53:13) Making comparisons in the lifestyle
(00:55:13) Getting out of your head and letting go
(00:56:30) Holding one another back
(01:00:16) Parting advice
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This week, Zack, Josie, and Brad welcome Mary — a licensed professional counselor with 13 years in the lifestyle alongside her husband. With a rare mix of professional insight and personal experience, Mary opens up about emotional awareness, connection, and the importance of taking care of yourself — and your relationship — while living the lifestyle.
Mary shares her perspective on knowing when it might be time to step back and refocus on your partnership, and how the lifestyle can magnify both the challenges and the strengths within a relationship. Drawing from her trauma specialization, she discusses the four types of trauma, how they can quietly shape our lifestyle experiences, and why vulnerability and shame often show up where we least expect them.
The conversation shines a light on the feelings many swingers experience but struggle to name — and offers a fresh, compassionate perspective on what it really means to grow together through honesty, self-awareness, and trust.
As Mary put it best: there are many different kinds of therapy… and sometimes, the lifestyle can be one of them.
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(00:00:00) Mary has a different perspective as a trauma therapist who’s also in the lifestyle
(00:02:44) Coming from a place of love or fear
(00:04:21) Everyone is in the lifestyle they just don’t know it
(00:05:28) Stumbling upon the lifestyle
(00:07:25) Choosing to explore and grow instead of running in fear
(00:10:37) My husband and I have 13 years of lifestyle experience
(00:13:03) The impact trauma has on our lives and lifestyle journeys
(00:15:35) Four types of trauma: betrayal, abandonment, rejection, and shame
(00:17:00) Information overload and the direction society is moving in
(00:21:05) Men and women think differently
(00:24:11) Personality differences impact experiences, too
(00:27:22) Is energy the same as attunement
(00:30:30) The lifestyle will magnify any problems you have in your relationship
(00:33:24) The biggest trauma trigger in the lifestyle is shame
(00:35:49) Daily walks, communication and thought experiments
(00:38:43) Tips to help couples better communicate
(00:40:15) Self-advocacy and learning to speak up for yourself
(00:41:47) How to know if you’re having ‘too much’ lifestyle
(00:44:23) What to do when you feel triggered in a play session
(00:48:34) Tips on taking care of yourselves and your relationship
(00:49:43) When to seek counseling and how to find a good therapist
(00:53:35) Nuggets of wisdom from Mary
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Resources
Lewis Howes’ Interview with Esther Perel
Brene Brown’s Ted Talk on Shame - YouTube 2012
Dr. Brian Pennie’s interview with Dr. Gabor Mate, an expert on Trauma and Addiction
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This week, the Two Plus Two Crew gets real about one of the lifestyle’s biggest questions — can swinging actually make your relationship stronger?
Zack and Josie open up about what it was like being in the lifestyle during their previous marriages — how they got into it, where things went wrong, and what they’ve learned since. They share how, through their evolution in the lifestyle together, their marriage has grown through honesty, vulnerability, and countless deep conversations about what truly matters.
Brad and Brittany bring their own experiences to the table, sharing insecurities and insights that couples everywhere can relate to. Together, the crew explores how men and women often see the lifestyle through different lenses — and how those differences can either pull you apart or bring you closer.
From trust and transparency to authenticity and acceptance, they reveal how the lifestyle can strengthen your bond — if you’re willing to put in the work (and maybe bare a little more than just your bodies).
Because when you can show up fully as yourself — love yourself — and be loved for it, that’s when your relationship truly comes alive.
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(00:00:00) Lifestyle 1.0 didn’t go so well
(00:03:08) Josie was pressured into getting into the lifestyle
(00:05:33) Zack and his wife at the time were both in agreement to try it
(00:09:39) Brad’s first brush with the lifestyle
(00:11:02) We found other swingers on Craigslist
(00:12:41) We weren’t in supportive marriages
(00:14:26) The intimacy wasn’t like it is for us now
(00:15:48) I feel more drawn to Josie than I am to you
(00:18:23) Keeping things from going down a wrong path
(00:20:14) We feared the lifestyle for a long time
(00:22:32) Lifestyle 2.0 is much better
(00:25:50) We know what it feels like to catch feelings
(00:27:41) Trust and open communication helps your relationship grow
(00:28:27) Friends with benefits vs one and done
(00:30:14) Strong couples make playing more comfortable for the girls
(00:33:56) How the lifestyle benefits your relationship
(00:36:04) Men’s brains and women’s brains are very different
(00:40:50) Revealing all of yourself to your partner
(00:42:57) Lifestyle related arguments help you dig deep
(00:45:11) Your partner helps give you confidence to be yourself
(00:47:17) Supporting your partner
(00:49:18) Trust is small promises kept repeatedly over time
(00:54:02) We’re able to work through things faster now
(00:55:39) If you think you can or you think you can’t, you’re right
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This week, the Two Plus Two Crew is back together, and things are getting deliciously crowded. Brad and Brittany are fully in their element, fresh from a steamy mountain takeover weekend with 16 lifestyle friends and plenty of spicy stories to share. Meanwhile, Zack and Josie open up about a night they didn’t see coming: their first threesome and a group play twist that left their hearts racing and pulses quickening.
From Brittany’s shibari fantasy coming to life to the electric thrill of meeting new play partners and feeling that spark catch fire, this episode dives deep into the sexy, messy, and unforgettable moments that make group play so intoxicating.
Consider this your invitation to the after-dark gathering where communication, connection, and curiosity collide. One taste… and you may not want to leave.
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(00:00:00) Welcome back to the studio, Brad & Brittany!
(00:02:24) Group play is our jam
(00:03:06) Group play challenges and nerves
(00:06:31) 18 people in one house for three days
(00:09:16) Conveying interest when and how
(00:11:50) It was my turn to be tied up
(00:15:05) Envy and communicating interest to your partner
(00:18:52) Initiating group play
(00:22:31) We turned into exhibitionists
(00:24:19) Our first ‘threesome’
(00:27:24) It was unexpected, new and exciting
(00:30:07) And now there were five
(00:33:47) Getting consent during play…verbal vs visual
(00:37:15) Group play in place of a four way connection
(00:38:08) Communication with your partner is key
(00:40:52) ‘Same’ party, different outcome…we were intentional
(00:43:29) Challenges with communicating interest to your partner
(00:44:39) Putting the right group of people together for play
(00:48:04) Taking time to reflect on play experiences and recuperate
(00:51:08) Some group play experiences get your motor running
(00:52:00) Parties coming up
(00:53:34) Taking care of your relationship is most important
(00:54:31) Looking forward to our next group play experience
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This week, the vampires turn down the lights and turn up the honesty. Zack and Josie welcome Stone and Selene, a couple who first stepped into the lifestyle so Selene could explore her attraction to women. What began as a soft spark of curiosity evolved into a full swap journey—complete with steamy firsts, emotional growth, and plenty of delicious self-discovery.
Stone opens up about his own inner work—navigating the envy and insecurity that came with watching Selene experience pleasure with another man. Their story isn’t about drama or broken trust; it’s about personal reflection, emotional courage, and a deeply supportive partnership. With Selene by his side, Stone learned how shifting beliefs can unlock new levels of connection and play.
From FF encounters to unforgettable threesomes (and that oh-so-important “who’s in the middle?” moment), this episode is a reminder that real growth can be just as sexy as the play itself.
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(00:00:00) Selene finally shared with Stone that she wanted to explore women
(00:04:11) Stone supported Selene in FF but didn’t think it included him
(00:05:57) Selene’s first FF experience
(00:09:02) Their first threesome
(00:12:17) With threesomes the question is who’s in the middle?
(00:14:08) Their favorite threesome position…it’ll make you hot!
(00:17:27) Bliss was their first lifestyle experience
(00:20:18) Selene’s mindset shift changed her experience
(00:23:14) Being a little naughty was her favorite thing
(00:25:20) The first time she had sex with a man other than Stone
(00:28:24) Selene had to work through her feelings
(00:31:18) A supportive spouse makes a huge difference
(00:34:02) He was handsome and he fucked her brains out
(00:36:28) It was fun but it was difficult to work through the feelings
(00:39:06) Stone had to stop the play session and that can be hard
(00:40:54) He had to go to work on himself
(00:42:50) He felt insecure and had a lot of feelings to work through
(00:44:19) Reframing experiences and changing core beliefs
(00:46:08) Selene was heartbroken watching Stone struggle
(00:48:28) Brad and Brittany helped them turn a corner in couples play
(00:50:44) Judgment around number of play partners
(00:53:14) Reconnection sex is the hottest sex
(00:54:39) These are normal feelings
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This week, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into the little turn-offs that can make a big difference in the lifestyle. From endless talkers who don’t know when to zip it, to naughty pics that miss the mark, to distracted dates and space-invading flirts, the hosts share their own pet peeves while weighing in on those shared by listeners. Playful, cheeky, and just a touch wicked, this episode proves that sometimes the sexiest sparks come from knowing what not to do.
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(00:00:00) We asked our listeners
(00:01:53) People who dominate the conversation
(00:07:10) Good listeners may be more responsive in play sessions
(00:08:21) Dick pics
(00:11:50 ) It’s a numbers game
(00:12:48) Naked Man - flashback to Episode 9 at 00:32:00
(00:15:47) Pussy pics
(00:16:15) Pics the ladies find sexy
(00:18:04) Ignoring DM’s, ghosting and communication etiquette
(00:23:39) Distracted dates
(00:25:54) Cock shock collars and pocket pussies
(00:26:19) Halitosis and smoking
(00:31:38) Interrupting closed conversations
(00:36:06) Lifestyle culture
(00:38:36) Posers
(00:39:30) Personal space
(00:40:43) Being too handsy or overly friendly
(00:43:12) Women may view interactions differently than men
(00:48:50) Difficulty talking about having sex with potential partners
(00:52:14) Talking yourself out of a play session when you know too much
(00:55:02) Future podcast topic…join the conversation on Peaches’nCream
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This week, the vampires sink their teeth into something a little different. Zack and Josie cozy up with their irresistible friends Luke and Rickie—an erotica author with a wicked imagination and her equally adventurous partner—whom they first met under the sultry moonlight of Desire Riviera Maya. Together, they peel back the velvet curtain on their journey into the lifestyle, from sizzling first encounters to the thrills (and giggles) of bi-comfortable play.
No topic is off-limits as the conversation winds through pegging, prostate pleasure, DVP, and the deliciously complicated dance of desire when all four partners are fully in sync. Along the way, Luke and Rickie bare the truth about bisexuality, breaking down the double standards that paint men and women so differently, and revealing just how freeing it can be to embrace the unexpected.
Whether you’re curious about crossing boundaries or just love eavesdropping on sexy, candid stories, this episode offers both a bite of wisdom and a taste of naughtiness. Even if you’re not looking to go bi, you’ll find yourself enthralled—and maybe just a little tempted.
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(00:00:00) Introducing our guests, Luke and Rickie
(00:02:32) Erotica…a gateway to the lifestyle
(00:05:28) It all started with Vegas
(00:07:59) We were like scared children experiencing our first house party
(00:09:18) We went all in
(00:10:48) I’m a heterosexual man but enjoy the pleasure of another man
(00:14:07) The complexity and hypocrisy of bi men vs women
(00:17:56) How the bisexual conversation started
(00:20:07) I don’t want you to see me as less of a man
(00:22:47) The evolution of lifestyle desires
(00:26:32) Changing our beliefs is an evolution
(00:28:42) The MM fantasy is on women’s minds
(00:30:04) It’s only enjoyable for me if you also find it enjoyable
(00:32:57) Strap-ons, prostate orgasms and stigmas
(00:36:09) She has the hormones of a teenaged boy
(00:37:31) Helping inexperienced couples explore bisexuality
(00:40:05) Removing barriers to foursome play
(00:44:03) DVP took my orgasm to a level 10
(00:48:43) Fun foursomes; condoms and bisexual play
(00:52:41) Orgasms and controlling squirting
(00:56:18) Putting less significance on the orgasm can make it easier to orgasm
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Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany explore all the delicious perks of the lifestyle that go far beyond the playroom. From the intoxicating energy of a Bliss event to the thrill of dressing up and letting desire set the tone, these playful vampires share how swinging fuels confidence, deepens connection, and sparks sexual liberation. It’s proof that sometimes the sweetest bites are found in the moments between the sheets.
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(00:00:00) How most couples define success in the lifestyle
(00:01:46) Benefits from Bliss other than playing
(00:03:30) If you’re considering the lifestyle, this is for you
(00:07:00) You can be yourself
(00:08:01) There’s great energy
(00:08:40) There’s warm and comforting, yet also anxious energy
(00:09:25) The razor’s edge between anxiety and excitement
(00:10:51) Reframing and resetting expectations
(00:11:24) Anticipation instead of expectations
(00:11:44) A sexual atmosphere is important
(00:13:06) Bliss group play room
(00:15:24) Bliss Dance ‘n Play
(00:18:17) Redefining success
(00:19:44) Zack enjoys voyeurism
(00:23:18) Josie is more comfortable watching porn than live action
(00:25:10) Scarlet Ranch group playroom
(00:27:29) Better and more fun vacations
(00:29:48) Giving up control and feeling youthful
(00:32:30) Dressing in theme and feeling sexy
(00:35:18) Comments are welcomed in the lifestyle
(00:38:15) If you like it try it, be who you want to be
(00:40:32) Pump up your volume!
(00:42:47) Increased confidence through self expression
(00:45:00) Fake it ‘til you make it
(00:48:06) Squeeze every benefit out of every event
(00:49:25) Exposure to new ideas or kinks
(00:53:35) Experiences, exploration, liberation, communication
(00:56:00) Deeper, more connected relationships
(00:57:32) The lifestyle community is very accepting
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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany break down why judgment isn’t always a dirty word—it’s simply part of deciding what (and who) makes you tingle. These playful vampires of the mic aren’t here to drain the fun—they’re teasing apart why “judgment-free” might be more fantasy than fact. From judging to being judged, they share stories of decisions (not damnations), kinks that don’t quite fit, and the delicate dance of acceptance versus attraction. Whether you’re an introvert, extrovert, or somewhere in between, this conversation proves that a little judgment can be just as sexy as it is honest.
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(00:00:00) Is the lifestyle really judgment free
(00:04:10) Judgment defined
(00:05:39) An example of judgment
(00:06:16) Why the topic of judgment came up(00:09:12) Digging on use of the word and why we use it
(00:11:06) Politics and other musings
(00:13:27) Not less judgmental just more accepting
(00:14:58) Salted Caramel Cookie and Swappertunity69
(00:16:08) Tell me more about that
(00:18:13) Replace ‘judgment’ with ‘decisions’
(00:19:54) Kinks and preferences that aren’t our own
(00:21:35) Kink vs lifestyle vs swingers
(00:24:02) Judgment and the feelings judgment creates
(00:28:14) Ways to handle feeling judged
(00:31:43) Being accepting doesn’t auto translate to fucking
(00:33:12) Introverts and extroverts experience the lifestyle differently
(00:38:05) Common perceptions of introverts vs extroverts
(00:41:36) A potential strategy for introverts
(00:42:37) Judgments we’ve each made
(00:49:57) Trust and transparency is valuable to us
(00:54:17) Share your opinions with us on Peaches’nCream
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This week, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into one of the most talked-about topics in the lifestyle: red flags. And this time, it’s not just their own perspectives—they’re debating the warning signs shared by listeners on Peaches’nCream. From couples who feel like “fresh meat,” to partners who aren’t on the same page, to those misleading photos (or no photos at all), the crew unpacks the signals that can make or break a connection. But it’s not all caution tape—there are plenty of green flags, too, from inclusivity to empowerment and stretching comfort zones. With playful banter, candid stories, and just enough bite, this episode will leave you laughing, nodding along, and maybe rethinking your own approach to the lifestyle.
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(00:00:00) We asked our listeners
(00:02:29) Red Flag 1: We are new and feel like ‘fresh meat’
(00:04:41) Being inclusive is more fun for everyone
(00:07:00) Red Flag 2: Disrespecting their own partner
(00:08:48) When one partner isn’t ‘into it’ and needs to drink to play
(00:10:46) Red Flag 3: Too much attention can be a turn off
(00:12:10) Red Flag 4: Name dropping
(00:15:54) Red Flag 5: Misleading or just missing photos…of him
(00:17:17) Meeting virtually before an in-person meeting
(00:21:04) Sunday night booty call
(00:24:16) Everyone gets to do it their way
(00:25:00) Green flags!
(00:30:16) Expanding your comfort zone boundaries
(00:33:00) Sexual liberation and empowerment
(00:35:30) Talking about erections before a play session
(00:40:29) When the dick shot doesn’t work
(00:43:50) Sexual liberation and penis evolution
(00:45:18) Red Flag 6: When couples or singles start messaging outside the group chat
(00:45:42) Hooking up with someone of the same sex without your partner’s consent
(00:48:29) Red Flag 6 may not a red flag for everyone
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This week, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their fangs into a topic every lifestyle couple needs to hear—how to step up your game in and out of the bedroom. From first impressions that make her decide “yes” or “no” in ten seconds flat, to why looking like you “phoned it in” could cost you more than a date, the hosts share playful but practical advice for both husbands and wives on standing out for all the right reasons. With cheeky metaphors and plenty of flirty banter, they remind vampires that authenticity, effort, and a little polish go a long way toward making connections—and earning repeat invitations. Whether you’re new to the scene or a seasoned swinger, this episode proves that with a few tweaks, you can go from being a commodity to an unforgettable brand… and maybe even become the one everyone wants to sink their teeth into.
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(00:00:00) Top Tips for Lifestyle Husbands
(00:02:33) It feels like some men just phone it in
(00:04:42) A thought experiment
(00:06:33) Lack of care in appearance may carry into the bedroom
(00:08:05) It only takes 10 seconds for her to decide it’s a ‘no’
(00:10:25) You may develop a reputation…make it a good one!
(00:11:26) Being a product vs a commodity
(00:14:02) Spider monkey
(00:15:21) What is a brand and where do you convey (explain, portray)
(00:18:35) First impressions and attractions
(00:20:56) Attracting attention and being authentic
(00:23:48) Authenticity can be scary
(00:26:21) Real people make the lifestyle more rewarding
(00:28:40) Showing your authentic self can take time for various reasons
(00:32:15) Performance and improving your skills
(00:36:33) Being responsive is a skill and is easier with an expressive partner
(00:42:50) Why we created Two Plus Two
(00:48:29) Your ticket to having more fun
(00:50:13) The homework assignment
(00:52:34) Small tweaks may produce better results
(00:54:00) Join us on PnC, on the journey and on a trip!
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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into nine of the most common myths about the swinging lifestyle. From the idea that swingers are just “sex-obsessed commitment-phobes” to the belief that every event is one giant orgy, the hosts pull back the velvet curtain and reveal what really happens when vampires come out to play. With humor, honesty, and a few cheeky double takes, they bust misconceptions that scare off the curious and confuse the vanillas. Whether you’re a newbie, considering the lifestyle, or just love a good myth-busting session, this episode proves that swinging isn’t all about sex—it’s about connection, communication, and maybe just a little bit of delicious mischief.
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(00:00:00) Swingers and baby oil
(00:02:05) Myth One: Swingers are just sex obsessed people who can’t commit
(00:03:45) Maybe we’re just more open about sex
(00:05:54) We commit to exploring our sexuality
(00:08:52) We can see why vanillas believe this myth
(00:10:32) Myth Two: Swinging is just cheating with permission
(00:14:26) Myth Three: Swinger events are just wild sex orgies
(00:17:04) The image vs the reality
(00:20:56) Playroom etiquette and orgies
(00:22:50) Myth Four: Once you swing your relationship is doomed
(00:24:43) You can try the lifestyle and later change your mind
(00:26:41) The lifestyle can mean different things to different people
(00:28:59) Myth Five: Women are pressured into the lifestyle to please their husbands
(00:31:42) Men may be more likely to bring the topic up
(00:34:52) It gave the women permission to explore the idea
(00:37:25) Success in the lifestyle is all about your resources
(00:39:47) Myth Six: Swingers will hit on you anywhere
(00:41:11) Every swinger needs a ‘how we met’ cover story
(00:45:48) How vanillas react when they find out you’re swingers
(00:46:23) Myth Seven: Swinging is only for couples
(00:47:57) Myth Eight: Swingers are never jealous or insecure
(00:51:36) What we’re thinking as we look around in a group of swingers
(00:53:36) Missed opportunities occur with lack of communication
(00:54:32) Why this misconception may exist
(00:55:12) Myth Nine: The lifestyle is all about sex
(00:57:41) If it’s not all about sex, what is it about?
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