Dr. John sits down with therapist Justin Olsen, a licensed clinical mental health counselor, to talk about stress, resilience, and mental health. Justin explains that stress is unavoidable, and actually necessary in healthy amounts. Too little stress can lead to lack of purpose and depression, while too much overwhelms us. The key difference between “good stress” (eustress) and “bad stress” (distress) is how we frame it in our minds. Using ideas from cognitive behavioral therapy, Justin describes how situations trigger thoughts, which create emotions, which drive our actions, and how we can reclaim power by examining and reshaping those thoughts. They also discuss grief and loss, acknowledging that some pain should hurt, and that time, meaning-making, and reframing help us move from being consumed by the “black hole” of loss to living alongside it.
Human connection comes up as a major buffer against stress. Justin and Dr. John talk about the power of small, consistent acts of kindness, texting a loved one, thanking someone, opening a door, as well as intentionally reaching out instead of waiting to be noticed. They highlight research showing that believing your body can handle stress and staying connected to others is more protective than trying to avoid stress altogether. From a resilience standpoint, Justin uses the metaphor of a reservoir: life’s hardships constantly drain water, so we must actively refill it. He focuses on five core practices, adequate sleep, reasonably healthy eating, regular exercise, supportive relationships, and doing things that genuinely make you happy.
To build resilience, they emphasize simple, repeatable habits rather than dramatic life overhauls, date nights, boundaries at work, hobbies like pickleball or guitar, and movement that boosts brain chemistry and neuroplasticity. They suggest that therapy is especially helpful when stress, grief, or habits are clearly interfering with daily life, work, relationships, motivation, or health. Justin closes with a powerful question from resilience research: “Is what I’m doing right now helping me or hurting me?” If it’s helping, lean in; if it’s hurting, gently choose something kinder for yourself.
Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
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