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When Love Hurts
Alison Epp, Jo Neill, Jill Cory, Karen McAndless-Davis
10 episodes
1 week ago
When Love Hurts is a podcast that exposes the reality about men’s abuse of women — what it is and how we can respond. Hosted by Alison Epp and Jo Neill and joined by Jill Cory and Karen McAndless-Davis, authors of the influential book When Love Hurts, the show draws from their decades of frontline experience supporting women and educating communities. Together, we’ll break down the many myths and misconceptions that allow abuse to hide in plain sight. For example, the myth that abuse is limited to physical violence fails to include the full scope of abuse — emotional, verbal, financial, sexual and more. This myth prevents women and their supporters from recognizing the impact of all forms of abuse. We also explore the social and systemic forces that enable men’s abuse, and what true support and accountability look like. This podcast is for everyone, not just survivors or professionals. Abuse impacts us all, whether we see it or not. Jill and Karen offer clear insight, practical wisdom, and heartfelt compassion in each episode. Join us as we shine light into the darkness, build understanding, and work toward a world where love never hurts.
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When Love Hurts is a podcast that exposes the reality about men’s abuse of women — what it is and how we can respond. Hosted by Alison Epp and Jo Neill and joined by Jill Cory and Karen McAndless-Davis, authors of the influential book When Love Hurts, the show draws from their decades of frontline experience supporting women and educating communities. Together, we’ll break down the many myths and misconceptions that allow abuse to hide in plain sight. For example, the myth that abuse is limited to physical violence fails to include the full scope of abuse — emotional, verbal, financial, sexual and more. This myth prevents women and their supporters from recognizing the impact of all forms of abuse. We also explore the social and systemic forces that enable men’s abuse, and what true support and accountability look like. This podcast is for everyone, not just survivors or professionals. Abuse impacts us all, whether we see it or not. Jill and Karen offer clear insight, practical wisdom, and heartfelt compassion in each episode. Join us as we shine light into the darkness, build understanding, and work toward a world where love never hurts.
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Education
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Episode 5: Why abusive men are abusive
When Love Hurts
1 hour 1 minute
3 weeks ago
Episode 5: Why abusive men are abusive

In this episode, we take on the question women ask again and again: Why is he abusive? Women are desperate for an answer. They want to understand his need for power and control – where it comes from, what drives it, and whether he’s even aware of it. For many women, this becomes a pivotal point in making sense of their situation.


There are many unfounded theories and explanations commonly offered for why abusive men are abusive:

  • He has an anger problem.
  • He’s under a lot of stress.
  • He’s mentally ill.
  • It’s because of his childhood.
  • He’s an addict.
  • It’s just his “conflict style.”

None of these are accurate. These excuses show up everywhere in the dominant discourse and leave both women and professionals confused about what the real issue actually is.

Karen shares part of her own story about Bruce’s change process and what that looked like. That experience leads us into a discussion of the true cause of abuse: the man’s underlying belief system.

Research from the University of British Columbia’s School of Social Work, based on interviews with men before and after treatment, identified three core beliefs held by abusive men. These beliefs create the foundation that allows abuse to happen:

  • Central – He believes he should be the centre of the household and that everything should revolve around him.
  • Superior – He believes he is better than his partner in all areas that matter.
  • Deserving – He believes he is entitled to whatever he wants, whenever he wants it.

These beliefs are deeply held – often unconscious – and rooted in privilege and entitlement. Abusive men may know how to “talk the talk” of healthy relationship, so they won’t usually state these beliefs outright. But their actions reveal them.

  • More in the show notes
  • Alison Epp, counselling
  • Jo Neill, counselling
  • The When Love Hurts website lists their active support groups throughout Canada and provides many articles for further reading.
  • 211 is an emergency mental health number in Canada that can be called at any time and they can connect you with available local resources. 
  • If you still cannot find what you are looking for, please connect with us by email.

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When Love Hurts
When Love Hurts is a podcast that exposes the reality about men’s abuse of women — what it is and how we can respond. Hosted by Alison Epp and Jo Neill and joined by Jill Cory and Karen McAndless-Davis, authors of the influential book When Love Hurts, the show draws from their decades of frontline experience supporting women and educating communities. Together, we’ll break down the many myths and misconceptions that allow abuse to hide in plain sight. For example, the myth that abuse is limited to physical violence fails to include the full scope of abuse — emotional, verbal, financial, sexual and more. This myth prevents women and their supporters from recognizing the impact of all forms of abuse. We also explore the social and systemic forces that enable men’s abuse, and what true support and accountability look like. This podcast is for everyone, not just survivors or professionals. Abuse impacts us all, whether we see it or not. Jill and Karen offer clear insight, practical wisdom, and heartfelt compassion in each episode. Join us as we shine light into the darkness, build understanding, and work toward a world where love never hurts.