What if you could take the most mysterious force in physics—and make it useful? In our final  episode of this season of Wild Hearts, we sit down with Pete Shadbolt, co-founder of PsiQuantum, a company racing to build the world’s first utility-scale quantum computer. But this isn’t a conversation about quantum theory. It’s about execution. Engineering. Scaling. Building something that moves humanity forward - not in decades, but now. Pete shares why 300 or 3,000 qubits won’t cut it, and why a million is the magic number. We explore the technical marvels (and madness) involved in the team’s journey: superconducting detectors millimetres from red-hot heaters, lasers brighter than a trillion photons, and a cryostat that throws out the chandelier model altogether. But most of all, this is a story of ambition. Of leaving behind prestigious academic careers, raising a billion dollars, and assembling a team of physicists, welders, aerospace engineers, and cryo-specialists to take one shot at building something historic. In this conversation, we cover: 🚀 Why PsiQuantum is chasing 1 million qubits—not 300, not 3,000🏗️ What it takes to move quantum computing from theory to hardware—with welders, chip designers, and aerospace engineers  📉 Why academia can be a trap—and how PsiQuantum built an anti-academic company culture  🌐 The real-world applications of quantum computing: from designing drugs to revolutionising materials science  👩‍🔬 How team DNA, not just tech, shapes PsiQuantum’s ability to scale and execute  ⚙️ Why quantum computing isn’t a mass adoption tool - and why that’s perfectly okay 🔥 How engineering targets that once caused mutiny are now being hit daily This episode concludes our fifth season of Wild Hearts. Over the past 40 weeks, it’s been our honour to chat to the founders and operators shaping the world we live in. If you’ve enjoyed the conversations, we would be grateful if you could like, subscribe, and share our program with other wild hearts.  Wild Hearts will take a short break, and will return to all streaming platforms later this year.  From everyone at the Wild Hearts team, thank you! 

What if planning dinner wasn’t a chore—but something you looked forward to? In this episode, Wild Hearts guest host, Silk Kadala - investor at Blackbird - chats with Anna Guerrero, founder of Clove, a beautifully designed cooking app that’s reimagining how we cook at home. You might know Anna from her nine years scaling the creator marketplace at Canva—but it was a stint as a pasta chef in the Dolomites that ultimately set her on the path to launching Clove. Whether you’re interested in the role of AI in reducing decision fatigue, why brands are betting big on recipe creators as the next wave of culinary entrepreneurs or just stood in front of the fridge thinking “what’s for dinner?”—this episode is for you. 🔍 In this conversation, we cover: 🍳 The invisible mental load of everyday cooking—and how Clove is removing it with Smart Planner 📲 Why Clove’s approach to AI is more whisper than shout—and why that matters for creativity 📚 Building for creators: how Clove is giving food bloggers, TikTok cooks and chefs a new way to publish and earn 🎯 From pitch decks to real traction: Anna’s high-stakes decision to pause Clove’s creator program and set a new quality bar 🚀 The leap from Canva exec to culinary school student—and what working in a Michelin-starred restaurant taught Anna about product 🧠 Low ego, high initiative: what Clove looks for in early team members and building a culture of adaptability 🧭 What it means to follow the dots—why you don’t need to have it all figured out to move forward 🍽️ The long-term ambition: turning Clove into the global go-to for “what’s for dinner?”—with a billion recipes cooked through the platform From Canva to Clove, Anna Guerrero shows what it looks like to reinvent yourself, back a bold vision, and build something that truly changes how we live and cook.

What’s it like to be employee number one at two of the most iconic tech companies of the past two decades? In this episode of Wild Hearts, guest host and investor at Blackbird, Maddy Guest sits down with Kate Vale; Google and Spotify’s first hire in Australia. From launching Google out of her lounge room to scaling Spotify into a household name, Kate shares behind-the-scenes stories of tech history in the making, the leadership lessons that stuck, and why her latest career act is all about investing in women. In this conversation, we cover: 📞 The cold call from Google that changed her life and brought her to the global tech world—and tech in APAC 🚀 What it was like to launch Google Australia from her lounge room 🌍 Why Spotify was a harder sell than Google—and how she got artists on board 💡 The cultural rituals that helped Kate build high-performance teams across two giants 🔥 The one mistake most startups make when scaling their teams globally 📈 Why she co-founded a VC fund to back female tech founders during the pandemic 🎯 What Kate looks for in a founder, and the red flags that kill the deal This episode is a fascinating look behind the scenes at some of the earliest experiences of bringing global tech companies to Australia, and how these experiences have shaped Steph’s career and investing approach.

What happens when a side project becomes a platform used by over 75 million people—yet  the founder feels like they’re losing control of it? In this special live episode of Wild Hearts , Linktree co-founder and CEO Alex Zaccaria joins Mason Yates on stage at Sunrise Australia to unpack the messy, inspiring story behind one of Australia’s most iconic tech exports.  From unpacking Alex’s early creative instincts to the cultural tensions between Australia and the US, this is an unfiltered conversation on clarity, leadership, and staying close to the product that made it all possible. In this conversation, we cover: 🚀 How Linktree grew from a music industry side project into a global internet infrastructure tool 🔁 Why Alex Zaccaria scrapped traditional org charts and rebuilt the team from a “zero-based budget” approach 🧠 The internal mindset shift from people-pleasing to product-led, founder-first decision making 🔗 Why simplicity is one of the hardest product challenges—and how Linktree maintains it at massive scale 🗺️ What it means to build a business across two cultures—Australia and the US—and how the team navigates tall poppy syndrome 💸 How Linktree's new “Sponsored Links” marketplace is flipping influencer marketing into measurable performance 🎤 The evolution of leadership clarity and why Alex now operates in “mandate mode” 📈 What it takes to stay true to your product intuition—even when everyone around you tells you otherwise And of course, because this is a live episode, there’s some audience questions and banter along the way! Listen in for a conversation about reclaiming vision, rewriting culture, and building at global scale while staying grounded in creative instinct.

What makes a team thrive? According to Harry Flett, it's not just strategy or shipping speed; it’s how you make people feel. In the latest Operator episode of Wild Hearts, Harry, VP of Product, takes us behind the scenes at Tracksuit, where high-output product culture meets silliness, storytelling, and some surprisingly heartfelt moments. We explore Harry’s frameworks for thinking clearly, building with velocity, and designing for both customers and teammates. In this episode, we cover: 💬 The power of the say-do ratio and how reputation is built through consistent follow-through 🧠 Why burnout often stems from being “too helpful”—and how Harry’s learning to step back 🌳 The leaf-branch-trunk-root framework that’s helping Harry delegate and build ownership ⚖️ Why great product leadership requires balancing 10,000-foot thinking with shipping the next feature ✍️ How writing is Harry’s superpower—and why it’s essential for clarity in teams, strategy, and scaling 🏆 The hiring philosophy that helped Tracksuit hire the best people This episode is a playbook for leaders—whether you're in product, people, or operations—who want to scale with clarity, delegate with intention, and build a culture that people genuinely want to be part of. It’s packed with insights on communication, prioritisation, and the kind of leadership that drives real momentum. 

The internet is drowning in ‘slop’- and George Howes has a fix. The former creative lead at Eucalyptus believes the solution to this ‘creative problem’ starts with a feedback loopand ends with a new kind of intelligence. After leading one of Australia’s fastest-growing startups through a wave of performance marketing breakthroughs, George walked away to build something better. That “something” became Magic Brief: a tool that captures creative intelligence, not just analytics. In this episode of Wild Hearts, George takes us inside the machine. From his 15 principles of high-performing teams to how AI can (and should) unlock—not replace—creativity, this is a wide-ranging conversation going deep on marketing and product. In this episode, we cover: 📈 The 15 traits of high-performing creative teams 🧠 Why feedback loops—not freedom—unlock the best work 🤖 How AI can enhance creative strategy without replacing it 🎨 Why taste still matters in a world of AI-generated content George Howes gives a masterclass in the intersection of AI, creative strategy, and product velocity. If you're in marketing, this is one you’ll want to play twice.

What motivates a founder to shift from building a billion-dollar edtech unicorn to manufacturing missiles? And what happens when your career becomes a response to something deeply personal — the kind of world your kids might grow up in? Vu Tran is a doctor, a co-founder of Go1, and now the co-founder of Black Sky Industries — Australia’s first scalable missile and solid rocket motor manufacturer. In this episode, Vu opens up about the moral tipping point that drove him into defence, the vulnerability he sees in Australia’s current military setup, and why he believes our future depends on becoming, in his words, “an echidna — small, underestimated, and far too prickly to bite.” This is a conversation about personal mission, national security, and the power of bringing startup speed to one of the slowest-moving industries on the planet. In this conversation, we cover: 🏥 The emotional toll and grounding power of Vu’s continued work as a doctor in Logan 🚀 How Black Sky Industries is tackling lethality and building solid rocket motors at scale 🛡️ What Vu means by “making Australia an echidna” — a defence philosophy grounded in self-reliance and deterrence 💣 Why no one wants to touch “the pointy stuff” — and why Vu’s choosing to anyway 🌍 How Australia’s current reliance on foreign defence suppliers makes us vulnerable — and what needs to change 💡 Lessons Vu took from scaling Go1 into a unicorn — and what he’s left behind at Black Sky 📈 Why defence tech is the next trillion-dollar market opportunity — and why Vu wants more founders to enter the space. This episode is a raw and revealing look at how one founder is turning personal responsibility into national-scale impact — and why Australia needs more entrepreneurs willing to tackle the hardest problems.

What happens when you pack a carry-on, fly across the world, and try to scale a healthcare startup in one of the world’s toughest markets? In the latest episode from our Operator series of Wild Hearts, we sit down with Jesse Creighton, Director (US), Heidi Health. Jesse shares what it really looked like to launch the company’s American expansion — from hosting awkward dinners with two doctors at a 20-person table to building a high-performing sales team with its own unique culture in New York. In this conversation, we cover: 🗽 What it was like being the first on the ground in New York to launch Heidi in the US 🎯 Why Heidi's initial customer outreach flopped — and what they learned from it 🧠 How freemium became a game-changing growth strategy in healthcare 🛠 Why product-market fit in the US required rethinking sales, support, and compliance 🌎 The role of generalists vs. specialists when building early-stage teams across markets 🎥 How customer obsession and Aussie culture helped shape Heidi’s US team 📈 The two biggest bets that paid off — and why most investors didn’t see them coming  This episode is a masterclass in how to scale a startup across borders — blending instinct, experimentation, and a deep belief in product.

What does it take to achieve nuclear fusion in less time than it takes to build a traditional power plant prototype? In this episode of Wild Hearts, we’re joined by Ratu Mataira, CEO of OpenStar, a company that just hit the crucial "first plasma" milestone in a staggering 16 months.  We unpack the misconceptions surrounding fusion, the unique design of OpenStar’s levitated dipole reactor, and why the pathway to commercial fusion might be shorter -and more valuable - than most people think. 🔍 In this conversation, we cover: ⚡ How OpenStar achieved first plasma in just 16 months—years faster than competitors 💥 Why fusion isn’t “30 years away” anymore—and never really was 📉 How misconceptions about cost, scale and safety are holding the industry back 🔩 The engineering breakthrough that allows OpenStar to iterate faster 🧪 Why their first product won’t be a power plant—and what it might be instead 🏥 Medical isotopes, nuclear waste and imaging: the early use cases for fusion 🔧 “Always include a crank”: how failure tolerance fuels rapid learning 🚀 The startup mindset behind building a trillion-dollar fusion company This episode goes beyond fusion hype; it’s a candid look at how OpenStar is breaking barriers in one of the world’s hardest engineering challenges.

How do you take a scientific hunch and turn it into a breakthrough that could change medicine forever? In this episode of Wild Hearts, we sit down with Elise Jenkins, co-founder of Opto Biosystems, to discuss the journey of building a first-in-class brain implant that merges neurotechnology with oncology.  🎧 Subscribe on Apple or Spotify to learn. We explore the highs and lows of moving from academia to a high-stakes startup, the unexpected hurdles of working with neurosurgeons, and the race toward first-in-human trials. In this conversation, we cover: 🧠 Bridging the gap between neuroscience and cancer research 🔬 How brain-Computer interfaces could transform oncology 📈 The road to the first-in-human clinical trials and what It means for the future 💡 The challenges of moving from academia to a high-impact startup ⚡ Why the next generation of neural implants need to be MRI-invisible  🏥 What It takes to get regulatory approval for a revolutionary medical implant  🌎 Opto’s long-term vision: using neural biomarkers beyond brain cancer If you're fascinated by the intersection of science, engineering, and medicine, this conversation is for you. 🎧 Subscribe on Apple or Spotify to learn.

In this episode we cover: ✅Challenges of creating a hardware product ✅Helping people overcome shame and stigma ✅Building a brand beyond a visual identity ✅Investing in your own mental health ✅Reaching your audience where they are With its range of sex toys and sex education resources, NORMAL has reimagined the sex shop into an online experience that is fun and informative, with the mission of empowering absolutely anybody to explore their sexuality free from stress and stigma. In this special live episode of Wild Hearts, founder of NORMAL Lucy Wark spoke with me on stage at Blackbird’s Sunrise Festival. Episode highlights from Lucy: “More than 1 in 5 searches on the internet is about sex. There’s an incredibly large organic interest in this topic.” “As a culture, we have a long history of religious and cultural ideas about sex being sinful, sex being something that should only exist inside marriage, or should only exist for the creation of children.” “It’s not like selling toilet paper or mattresses. You’re trying to help people tackle quite deep psychological stigma.” “Things like libido, desire, arousal, changes in the body, sexual dysfunction, relationship skills, and sex while ageing, sex in menopause, there is this enormous suite of challenges for which we are incredibly poorly prepared for by formal sex education.” “A brand is not a logo and colours. To build authentic brands that mean something to people, is about a lot more than just building a visual identity.” “I think having practices like therapy are incredibly helpful investments in yourself as a founder, and an operator, and just a good human being to be around, so that’s been probably the highest ROI thing I do.”

What happens when a 10-second TikTok video changes everything overnight? For Annabelle Hay, co-founder and CEO of CLUTCH, it meant selling out 5,000 units in hours, navigating a manufacturing disaster, and scrambling to scale.  In this episode, Annabelle shares the rollercoaster journey of building a consumer brand from scratch, the unexpected lessons of going viral, and the challenges of breaking into retail. In this conversation, we cover: 🔥 The TikTok video that went viral overnight and sold out 5,000 units 💥 The manufacturing disaster that led to exploding tubes and mass refunds 🚀 How Annabelle scaled CLUTCH from a side hustle to a retail success 🦈 The Shark Tank investor who tried to rip her off—and how she fought back 🎯 The unexpected challenges of retail, from supply chain issues to hidden costs 💡 The founder-led brand strategy that resonated with millions 📈 Lessons in growth, hiring, and relinquishing control in a fast-moving startup If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to scale a consumer product from zero to retail shelves, this conversation with Annabelle Hay is a masterclass in resilience, adaptability, and strategic growth.

What happens when artificial intelligence isn't just assisting—but reshaping—the world of investment? In this episode of Wild Hearts, we chat with Armina Rosenberg, an investor combining traditional fundamental research with revolutionary AI-driven techniques.  Armina dives into how her firm, Minotaur, leverages AI to break down barriers, uncover global opportunities, and make investment decisions at unprecedented speeds. It's not just about efficiency; it's about reshaping the way capital is allocated worldwide. In this episode, we cover: 📈 How AI can remove language barriers in global investment research (03:30) 🔍 Armina’s innovative strategy for identifying mispriced companies (11:45) 🧠 How large language models (LLMs) transform fundamental analysis (14:10) ⚖️ Managing risk and building conviction with AI analytics (23:50) 🛠️ The competitive advantage of building proprietary AI software (29:30) 🚀 Future AI investment trends and capturing economic value (34:20) This episode is a rare inside look at how AI is transforming the art of investing, and what it means for the future of software.

Imagine being able to understand your customers better than ever before—instantly. That’s the promise of AI-powered product management.  In this episode, Matt Hinds, Co-founder and CEO of Sauce AI, explains how AI is transforming the way companies prioritise, iterate, and execute on their product roadmaps. We dive into the tools, strategies, and mindset shifts that are allowing top teams to unlock massive leverage in world of product development. In this conversation, we cover: 🧠 The evolving role of product managers in an AI-powered world 🚀 How Sauce AI is transforming product insights and decision-making 📉 Why some companies are eliminating PM roles – and why others are doubling down 💡 How top product teams use AI to unlock customer insights 100x faster 🛠️ The must-have AI tools that product managers should be using right now 🔄 The future of product iteration: instant feedback loops and automated workflows