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WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Owen and Isabella Gemmer
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WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
May the gods be ever in your favor | Iliad Book 23
Welcome to the Funeral Games! In honor of Patroclus, Achilles holds many contests for various prizes. The boys are so back. Join us as we discuss these contests and the significance of the prizes. Because in this book, everyone gets a participation trophy from Achilles himself. Listen to Book 24 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song. Edited by Isabella Gemmer
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1 day ago
32 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
The duel that you've all been waiting for | Iliad Book 22
Drum roll please! The duel that you've all been waiting for is finally happening. It's Achilles vs Hector. Does the final duel live up to the hype? Or does it fall short in some way? Listen to Book 23 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song. Edited by Isabella Gemmer
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1 week ago
44 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Achilles will fight nature itself | Iliad Book 21
In this episode of WINNOW we discuss Achilles vs the River. His rage knows no bounds; he literally fights nature itself. How far will Achilles go to get revenge for the death of Patroclus? Listen to Book 22 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song. Edited by Isabella Gemmer
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2 weeks ago
34 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
The Bicameral Mind in the Iliad | Iliad Book 20
In this episode of WINNOW we discuss the Theory of the Bicameral Mind and how it potentially applies to the characters of the Iliad. It may explain why these greek warriors act without thinking and blame everything on the gods. And Owen surprises Bella with some really insightful Greek that adds a lot of color to the text. Watch this episode on YouTube. Listen to Book 21 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. Conversation between Alex O'Connor and Vsauce Julian Jaynes's Book on the Bicameral Mind Theory Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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3 weeks ago
44 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Connecting the Odyssey to Sea of Monsters
Welcome to a special bonus episode of WINNOW. We reread the second book in the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series, The Sea of Monsters, in anticipation of the new season dropping today. The Sea of Monsters is particularly special to us because it is one giant nod to the greek mythology in Homer's Odyssey. And we also just wanted to take a stroll down nostalgia lane. Join us as we map out the similarities and differences between the Odyssey and The Sea of Monsters. Watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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3 weeks ago
43 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Achilles will eat his fill of WAR | Iliad Book 19
In this episode of WINNOW we discuss Book 19 of the Iliad. There's one more thing to do before Achilles charges into battle. Odysseus suggests the men eat, so they have enough energy to continue to fight. Achilles claims that he isn't hungry, but goes along with it. There are some half-hearted apologies and *jump scare* the horses talk. Listen to Book 20 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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4 weeks ago
33 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Addressing Song of Achilles | Iliad Book 18
Book 18 of the Iliad is where we see Achilles's reaction to Patroclus's death. Achilles's reaction is intense and full of grief, but we think that there's more going on here. In this episode we do some investigating into the original Greek text to see what specific words Achilles is using to describe his relationship with Patroclus. Were they friends? Were they comrades? Were they roommates? Watch this episode on YouTube. Listen to Book 19 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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1 month ago
45 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Over Patroclus's dead body | Iliad Book 17
Welcome back to WINNOW. This week we are covering Book 17 of Homer's Iliad. We're not quite to the rage of Achilles yet. First the Greeks and Trojans must fight over Patroclus's dead body. Even once Hector has stripped off Achilles's armor, his body still carries great significance. But why is his body so important? Watch this episode on YouTube. Listen to Book 18 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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1 month ago
28 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Patroclus goes beast mode, then dies | Iliad Book 16
Back our regularly scheduled programming! Today's episode covers Book 16 of Homer's Iliad. This is the book where Patroclus meets his tragic end. Why does Achilles let Patroclus wear his armor into battle? What inspires Patroclus to go beast mode? And what twist of fate is his undoing? We dive into all of it here on the WINNOW podcast. Listen to Book 17 of the Iliad to be prepared for next week's episode on YouTube. You can watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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1 month ago
49 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
This is not an adaptation of Frankenstein, it's something else...
Welcome to the second part of our bonus Frankenstein extravaganza. In this episode of WINNOW we discuss Guillermo del Toro's new movie adaptation of Frankenstein. We wanted to love it... but so many substantial changes were made to Mary Shelley's original novel that we're not ever sure we can call this Frankenstein. If you're looking for a free audiobook of Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, checkout this audiobook narrated by Owen on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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1 month ago
33 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Everything you need to know about Frankenstein
Welcome to this special bonus episode of WINNOW where we break down everything you could possibly need to know about Frankenstein before watching the new movie directed by Guillermo del Toro. If you're looking for a free audiobook of Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, checkout this audiobook narrated by Owen on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Once more unto the breach, dear friends | Iliad Book 15
In this week’s episode we cover Book 15 of Homer’s Iliad. This is a make-it-or-break-it moment in the Trojan War. Either the Trojans burn the Greek's ships or the Greeks rally enough to push back the Trojans. And Zeus has total control to enact his PLAN. The rest of the gods are sitting on the sidelines. It's about to go down... Listen to Book 16 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube.  Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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1 month ago
35 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
How to trick a god | Iliad Book 14
In this week’s episode we cover Book 14 of Homer’s Iliad. This book focuses mainly on ox-eyed Hera, enacting her plan to seduce Zeus and distract him from the war. With Zeus distracted from the war, maybe the Greeks will have an opportunity to beat the Trojans back from their ships. We discuss the significance of Hera's actions and how love is portrayed in the Iliad. Listen to Book 15 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube.  Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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2 months ago
36 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
The Battle of the Red Shirts | Iliad Book 13
In this week’s episode we cover Book 13 of Homer’s Iliad. We refer to this book as the battle of the red shirts because there's a lot of fighting between the expendable characters. The guys who, if this was Star Trek, would be wearing red shirts. There's also a lot of talk of courage as Poseidon rallies the Greek troops against the Trojans. And don't forget about Menelaus! Listen to Book 14 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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2 months ago
39 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Being done, thus Wall away doth go | Iliad Book 12
In this week’s episode we cover Book 12 of Homer’s Iliad. This book starts and ends with the breaking of the wall that the Greeks erected to barricade themselves and their ships. We see that in the future, when this war is over, the gods themselves will break down the wall. But for now Hector is the Trojan warrior that breaks through the gates into the Greek camp. He throws a boulder. It's an epic "Grond" moment. Listen to Book 13 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube.  Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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2 months ago
44 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Similes & Sick Burns | Iliad Book 11
In this week’s episode we cover Book 11 of Homer’s Iliad. This book contains A LOT of Homeric similes. So we thought that we’d take a moment to talk about what an epic simile is and why they’re so great. This one’s about language! To cover this book we break down three of our favorite similes, plus an awesome taunt from Diomedes. Paris gets insulted again. And Nestor tells Patroclus a long story. In fact, this is the beginning of Patroclus’s tragic end… Listen to Book 12 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube.  Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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2 months ago
41 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Odysseus is in the Iliad too | Iliad Book 10
This week’s episode is all about book 10 of the Iliad, espionage by night. It’s still night, and both the Greeks and the Trojans decide to send spies. The Greeks send Diomedes and Odysseus. The Trojans send Dolon, a herald who doesn’t stand chance. This is the first book where we get to see what kind of man Odysseus is in the war. His actions are kinda shocking. What is he willing to do? How far is he willing to go? Listen to Book 11 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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3 months ago
55 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Can Achilles be persuaded to fight? | Iliad Book 9
This week's episode is all about Book 9 of the Iliad, the embassy to Achilles. Basically, the Trojan War is not going well for the Greeks. And they’re getting desperate. Odysseus, Phoenix, and Ajax are sent to try to persuade Achilles to rejoin the fight. They each present different arguments. In many ways this book is similar to a Platonic dialogue. Will Achilles be swayed? And what the heck is Phoenix even talking about? Join us as we break down these three arguments and touch on the Ancient Greek word for glory.   Listen to Book 10 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube.   Watch this episode on YouTube.   Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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3 months ago
52 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
We need to talk about the greek gods | Iliad Book 8
This week's episode is all about Book 8 of the Iliad, where we get serious about trying to understand the greek gods. Are they really fickle? Can we unlock the hidden meaning behind their seemingly random actions? Bella proposes that we look at this through a symbolic lens, a Jonathan Pageau perspective, to dig deeper. Plus, Zeus finally gets involved in the action. He whips out his golden scales and his lightning bolts. Listen to Book 9 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube. Watch this episode on YouTube.  Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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3 months ago
47 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey
Another duel where no one dies | Iliad Book 7
This week's episode is all about Book 7 of the Iliad, where we break down another duel where no one dies. It's Hector vs. Ajax, but it ends in a draw. Why do they agree to halt the duel? In many ways this book is all about resetting the stage. The sun goes down and the dead are collected. Plus, Bella proposes the tile conspiracy theory. Did Ajax really get chosen at random? Listen to Book 8 of the Iliad to be prepared for the next episode on YouTube.  Watch this episode on YouTube. Thank you to Nat Copeland for our theme song.
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3 months ago
42 minutes

WINNOW: A Couple’s Close Reading of the Iliad and Odyssey