Gustaf Tadaa is a thinker, speaker, artist and entrepreneur. His and his wife Malins last exhibition Andetag (Instagram, website) is exhibiting in Stockholm spring/summer 2025. This is a beautiful conversation around how everything is made up, the traps of language, why we should think about teaching kids semantics. We also talk about how trauma therapy is a creative activity not a discovery. How important stories are to shape the world we live in and we end up talking about taxes why that would be a way to really shit the current state of the world. This conversation is wide ranging, concrete, provoking and really useful. Enjoy!