This conversation with Dave Snowden (LI) and founder of the Cynefin Co came on the podcast and we spoke of complexity. Discerning it from systems thinking, why he's been so critical of the inner development goals, getting the critique on experts right. We spoke of change, direction, working with the substrate. Why workshops are suboptimal or even damaging, why practice is what makes perfect. We spoke about waymaking, micro-empathic moments. We spoke of agency, affordance and assemblage, patterns over precision and much much more. This conversation is an excellent primer for those curious about complexity as well as those that consider themselves well versed. We speak of the fundamentals and the essentials in very practical ways. Enjoy!
Mari Granström (LI) founder and CEO of Origin by Ocean. We spoke of the chemicals industry and why it's so integral to everything that we do, how it can and probably will become a part of the solution going forward. We spoke of what it takes to actually recreate supply chains that are healthier where social , environmental and financial benefit are co-consequences. We also spoke of why single focus on carbon is detrimental for driving healthy change. This is a very hands on, conversation that highlights very tangible transformation of a supply chain and beyond. Enjoy!
Cassie Robinson (website) & Vanessa Reid (website) came on the podcast for a spontaneous chat about the wealth transformation, what nature immersion and different modes of gathering holds in terms of transformative potential. We spoke of death, and dying in a living way. The wealth defence industry, the paths towards post capitalist ways of being. The importance of looking at ones own relationship with wealth, and the communication that may open up if we start caring for money in different ways. This conversation holds so much potential for those oriented towards systemic transformation. Enjoy!
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Bree Greenberg is a therapist and spiritual teacher. This conversation weaves the threads of power with eating disorder, the current state of the world with our relationship to our innermost sacred, the innocence. This is a challenging conversation and an incredibly important one. It is about what is most systemic and most personal. We track Bree's work with those suffering form eating disorders to the work that she is now doing, empowering people and bringing forth the movement of existence. To dive in: Bree's website or The movement of existence (Youtube)
Amrei Andrasch is the co-founder of the Regenerative Timelab (website) and steward of the Oslo Project. We spoke of the legacy and importance of Deep Ecology as well as its relevance for our times. We spoke of rocks and collaboration, what happens to people when they embody the vast timespans of this planet and how we come back into relationship with all of it. We spoke of burnout and of coming alive, we spoke of mountains and language as well as rewinding. We spoke of what it takes to maintain the glimmer connection that so often fades in contact with our mainstream society. Enjoy
Emma Dalväg (LI, website) founder of Unwasted, came on the and we spoke of the circular economy. We spoke of industrial symbiosis (the book), and the shift that is happening around the world at the moment. Emma and the colleagues at Unwasted recently interviewed 10 CEOs about resilience and we speak of what they found. We also speak of sailing, regenerative by design, what the blockers are for circularity, and what the drivers are. This is a tangible conversation, a deep dive into circularity. It's one worth listening to!
This conversation with Parul Jagdish (EP275), Thomas Schindler (LI) and Lars Lægreid (LI) is about the Oslo Project. The moonshot project for resourcing and liberating new imaginations for our world. Similar to the Manhattan project, compiling thousands of individuals across the world in the 40’s, the Oslo projects aims to direct $400 bn towards regenerative futures. We spoke of dematerialisation, of what it means to have had luck, to integrate to move forward - combining science with other ways of knowing. We spoke of scale, lore, education. How curious it is that our hopes and dreams are so similar at the moment across political divides and walks of life. The invitation is for you to get involved. Longer term or in the series of gatherings that will be happening fall 2025/spring 2026. Come along.
A bubbly conversation with Nicole Ayres (LinkedIn) founder of Jumpsuit Agency. We spoke of her journey into Business 3.0. We spoke of storytelling, perspectives, creating portals, shifting world views and trust. We spoke of documentation instead of creation, death as a precondition for life, many reps of falling and what that does for a person. We also speak of magnetism and what becomes possible when you embody the change you wish to see. And finally we spoke of how getting to ease is not necessarily easy. Enjoy!
Parul Punjabi Jagdish (LinkedIn) steward of AIME came by the podcast. We spoke of the importance of the process of familiarising ourselves with who we are, the role and function of imagination. Why death is so central to life and how inviting it into our individual lives as well as our organisations is an invitation to radically shift away from where we are currently headed. We spoke of living cultures and living knowledge, the concept of retrieving forward and how what we are consist only of relationship. We also spoke about Imagine The Film and how it follows from a completely different pattern of creation - a sacred, co-created one. This conversation is a beautiful one. Enjoy!
Graham Boyd (LI, EP98), Tanuja Prasad (LI, EP234) Michaela Emch (LI) joined me for a conversation on regenerative business and reimagining paradigms of investing and leadership. This is deep conversation with tangible tips for leaders looking to fund and found regenerative businesses. We speak of complementary pairs of competition and collaboration, agency and structure. We speak of responsibility as a consequence of alignment and how important context is, as well as how we can deal with path dependency. This is a wonderful deep dive into the cutting edge of Regenerative Business. Enjoy!
Bruno Petrušić (LinkedIn, X) who is a theologian and part of the Economy of Francesco. We spoke about the big questions in life, theology's place in the societal transformation. Finding new ways. We spoke of what it's like to drive change within an institution like the catholic church. We addressed what the church also is and how it may help in finding new ways. We also spoke about different ways of relating to the world and what happens when care and the relational becomes a central value. And why that belongs in the economy and business particularly. This is a wonderful conversation. Enjoy!
Sara Lindeman, Thomas Holm and Amit Paul speak about the upcoming Waves Gathering in Finland, focusing on creating a unique space for exploring new worldviews and approaches to change. The gathering is an invitation for navigating destabilization without despair, integrating various forms of knowledge, and fostering collaboration and emotional intelligence. This is an invitation for embodied epistemic humility aka wisdom and the significance of meeting the situation rather than merely intellectualizing it. Tickets still available!
This episode deep dives into the masculine and feminine, energetically, hormonally and culturally. Adriana Forte (LinkedIn, C-lab Substack) brings depth and philosophical rigour as well as the latin perspective to Amits Icelandic, masculine Nordic one. We speak of what a dance between the masculine and feminine may lead to, we speak of hormonal rhythms and torrents. We speak of just how much of women is left discarded in modernity. We speak of grief and the potential that may be unlocked when men stay and women step out. This conversation is potentially transformational. It is excellent an it is pointing at one of the core problems of our
Karl Sjöblom (LinkedIn) is an entrepreneur, an expert in the new ISO 56001/2 and founder of Eicorn. We spoke of innovation, business transformation. Key takeaways from the conversation was the 8 boxes we need to work with to reliably innovate: leadership, vision, inclusiveness, timeline, skills, resources, commitment and communication. If we strategically address these the likelihood of success in any innovation project increase. We speak of where companies usually fail and why it is not in the doing but in the stopping the real gold lies. Other links: ISIP and Innovationsledarna. Enjoy!
Melanie Rieback (LinkedIn) founder of Radical Open Security and well known ambassador of steward ownership is a guest on this episode on the podcast. This is a different episode in kind. It is a story of transformation. We journey into a lifetime, touch on composting identities, it is a story of deep commitment to service, of courage, of listening and of following ones calling. The type of story we need more of.
This episode is different, it is one where Amit Paul offers space for a journey of radical transformation. Enjoy.
Adrian Wagner involved with both Complexity partners and the Pocket Project. We go deeply and concretely into the ins and outs of navigating complexity. We speak of the importance and power of micro-empathic moments. We also speak alot at the right level of granularity. How activism could be be reframed as finding a point where 'they' cannot hate 'us' anymore because we're involved with mutual local action. We speak about how precision is love and inquire into what would happen if we took god just a little more seriously than ourselves. This is a gem of a conversation. Enjoy! And here is the link to the release of the book (30th june2025)
This time Amit Paul speaks into some insights that he has found during spring. He speak of retiring survival in order to be able to fully live. Amit speaks of the sensous and that the posture of attuning to the moment is a more constructive attitude. One that sparks agency and action. He explore the crisis of meaning and propose that it’s a crisis of intimacy and Amit Paul explore the distinction between surrender and submission. All of this is an invitation to a new posture towards transformative work one in which attention is your instrument, submission is your stance and the only thing that may look like a goal is becoming intimate with reality. Links: Waves Gathering, website, innrwrks.
Gustaf Tadaa is a thinker, speaker, artist and entrepreneur. His and his wife Malins last exhibition Andetag (Instagram, website) is exhibiting in Stockholm spring/summer 2025. This is a beautiful conversation around how everything is made up, the traps of language, why we should think about teaching kids semantics. We also talk about how trauma therapy is a creative activity not a discovery. How important stories are to shape the world we live in and we end up talking about taxes why that would be a way to really shit the current state of the world. This conversation is wide ranging, concrete, provoking and really useful. Enjoy!
This is a beautiful conversation with Erik Fernholm (linkedIn) co-founder of 29k as well as the IDGs. We speak of emotions, happiness, what it takes to compost, why solutions cannot be perfect. We speak of listening and self-compassion. Why turning towards that which we reject can sometimes be the thing we need to do, even though it's hard. What it is and takes to start ones journey of working with life. Why we are still worthy of love, no matter what. This is a really beautiful one. Both an opening and a scaffold. Enjoy!
Sam Jockel (LinkedIn) came on the show. The founder of ParentTV and the producer of SEEN the film. Our conversation touched in on what parenting may be, both for yourself and for your kids. How does one become a parent? We speak of trauma as something that didn't happen rather than what happened and we speak of what it takes to recover warmth. How seeing your kids, being with them is what parenting is about rather than what you do. This is a wonderfully deep, personal and concrete conversation. It comes with a strong recommendation to actually see the film. It'll be worth it.