Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee return with Part 2 of their conversation with Dr. Lee James Taylor White and Dr. Catherine “Kate” Abernathy, continuing the story of two conservationists whose work has shaped the future of Africa’s forest elephants. Kate recounts her near-fatal encounter with a charging forest elephant during a family walk in Gabon, explaining how field instincts and a split-second decision to crawl under the animal allowed her to survive. Lee describes watching the attack unfold and the terrifying moment he prepared to distract the elephant to save her. The episode moves from that harrowing story into Lee’s years leading Gabon’s national parks, confronting ivory poaching networks tied to Boko Haram, and uncovering large-scale illegal logging operations. He explains how Gabon became the only country in central Africa to grow its forest elephant population during a decade when two thirds of the species were wiped out elsewhere. Kate shares how her thirty-year data set on fruiting trees and elephant body condition revealed dramatic impacts of climate change on rainforest ecosystems, and how her research network continues even after the 2023 military coup forced the family to leave Gabon. Together, they reflect on the coup, their family’s evacuation, the struggle to protect conservation progress, and the future of their work. This episode highlights two voices whose science, leadership, and courage have helped protect the world’s remaining forest elephants.

Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee sit down with 2025 Indianapolis Prize DeHaan Finalist Dr. Lee James Taylor White, Ph.D., and his wife and fellow conservationist Dr. Catherine “Kate” Abernathy. Together they share stories from decades of working in the rainforests of Gabon and the Congo Basin—protecting the critically endangered African forest elephant and studying gorillas, chimpanzees, and mandrills. Dr. White discusses his role in creating 13 national parks in Gabon and leading efforts to safeguard half of the world’s forest elephants, while Dr. Abernathy offers vivid insight into primate behavior and the realities of life in the field.

Kristi Lee and Dr. Rob Shumaker continue their Halloween series with paranormal investigators and filmmakers Jane Gerlach and Linda Mutchman. The pair share chilling stories of haunted homes, mysterious sounds, and unexplained visions. They discuss their investigations at the Howard County Masonic Lodge in Kokomo, a haunted house in Anderson, and other Midwest sites. The conversation covers dowsing rods, REM pods, EVPs, and why spirits may linger in certain places. Gerlach and Mann also reflect on the afterlife, fear of the unknown, and the hope found in spiritual connections.

Dr. Rob and Kristi Lee explore America’s growing fascination with Halloween and the paranormal with investigators Jane Gerlach and Linda Mutchman. They share first-hand stories of unexplained experiences, including visions of deceased loved ones, vivid dreams, and encounters at sites such as Waverly Hills Sanatorium, Indiana State Sanatorium, the Story Inn’s Blue Lady Room, and a haunted house in Osgoode. The conversation covers dowsing rods, EVPs, and why hospitals, prisons, and other high-emotion places attract ghost hunters. Watch to hear detailed accounts of ghost sightings, haunted locations, and spiritual connections that shaped their work.

In part two of Worth Your Time, hosts Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee continue their conversation with restaurateur and author Lisa Dahl. She explains how color, romance, and female sensuality shape her restaurant spaces and dishes; why she teaches cooks to taste, not just time recipes; and how a veggie burger she created as a teen evolved into today’s “hipster” burger. Dahl discusses her cookbooks The Elixir of Life and A Romance with Food, healing through holidays after loss, and the launch of her foundation and “Soup Hope—The Universal Soup of Love.” She also shares updates on her documentary Blessed by Grace, shown at the Heartland Indie Short Films Festival in Indianapolis. Blessed By Grace Trailer: https://www.cheflisadahl.com/blessed-by-grace

Restaurateur and philanthropist Lisa Dahl shares her journey from Indianapolis to Sedona, opening acclaimed restaurants and finding healing after the tragic loss of her son. In this episode of Worth Your Time with Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee, Dahl discusses her documentary Blessed by Grace, her culinary inspiration, and the creative vision behind Sedona’s dining scene. Blessed By Grace Trailer: https://www.cheflisadahl.com/blessed-by-grace

In Part 2 of this urgent conversation, With Your Time hosts Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee return with Dr. Anne Friesen (HumanTraffickingNow.com) and Andrew Sveum (FreedomRisingNow.org) to explore how individuals and communities can combat human trafficking—both in the U.S. and abroad. From inside Bangladesh’s largest brothel to local neighborhood signs of abuse, the conversation shifts toward hope, healing, and action. The guests share stories of real victims, strategies to prevent exploitation, and practical steps for parents, leaders, and citizens to get involved. This episode confronts difficult truths with courage and clarity—because awareness is the first step to change. For more information or to support their work, visit: 🔹 https://FreedomRisingNow.org 🔹 https://HumanTraffickingNow.com

On this powerful episode of With Your Time, Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee sit down with Dr. Anne Friesen of HumanTraffickingNow.com and Andrew Sveum of Freedom Rising Now on one of the most serious topics they’ve tackled—human trafficking. Dr. Friesen shares how her work in North Carolina revealed alarming levels of trafficking within the U.S., while Sveum recounts his experience inside the world’s largest brothel in Bangladesh and the international fight to protect vulnerable children. Together, they explore how trafficking intersects with organized crime, digital exploitation, and global labor abuse—and what parents, communities, and governments can do to respond. For more information or to support their work, visit: 🔹 https://FreedomRisingNow.org 🔹 https://HumanTraffickingNow.com

Author Stephen S. Hall joins Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee for part 2 of a fascinating deep dive into his book Slither. From Genesis to genetics, this conversation explores how snakes became symbols of sin, what they can teach us about health, and why public attitudes toward them are slowly changing. You’ll hear about snake personalities, snake sex (yes, really), life-saving venom research, and the cultural baggage snakes still carry today. Plus—there’s a surprise visit from Frank, the in-studio snake.

In this episode of Worth Your Time with Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee, author Steven S. Hall joins to discuss his new book Slither. The conversation explores why snakes evoke such strong emotions, the evolutionary roots of our fear, and the surprising ways science is changing how we view these often misunderstood creatures. Hall shares stories from history, neuroscience, and personal experience, revealing why snakes deserve more curiosity than contempt.

Kristi and Dr. Rob sit down again with Tyler Mayer—president of Providence Cristo Rey High School, former seminarian, and improv coach—for a funny, heartfelt, and insightful conversation. They explore what it means to have an American Pope, the legacy of Pope Francis, and how Pope Leo XIV may shape the future of the Church. Tyler shares his journey from seminary life to marriage, his perspective on Pope Benedict’s resignation, and how experience in Peru may shape Pope Leo’s leadership. You’ll laugh through stories of conclave traditions, theological debates, and the legendary “Balding Eagles” improv team.

In this episode of Worth Your Time, hosts Kristi Lee and Dr. Rob Shumaker dive into the global significance of the recent papal conclave and selection of Pope Leo XIV. Special guest Tyler Mayer—president of Providence Cristo Rey High School and former seminarian—joins the conversation to explain what actually happens when a new pope is chosen, including the meaning behind papal names, the role of cardinals, and conclave traditions that even include porta-potties in the Sistine Chapel. This wide-ranging discussion covers both serious insights and lighthearted takes on Catholic history, conclave process, and the cultural fascination surrounding the Pope. You don’t have to be Catholic to enjoy this—just curious.

In Part 2 of our conversation with Joe Hale, president of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum, we take you on a behind-the-scenes tour of the brand-new, reimagined museum experience that opened in April 2025. Hosts Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee join Joe to explore how a basement and an attic were transformed into a multi-level, interactive racing experience—all without expanding the museum’s footprint. From Gasoline Alley’s immersive garages that span the decades, to a massive LED screen capturing race day emotion, to a mezzanine filled with innovation and STEM education, Joe shares the storytelling strategy behind every design choice. We also dive into: Roger Penske’s renovation challenge The new 7,000 sq. ft. mezzanine A 6-minute sensory film recreating race morning Racing simulators, pit stop challenges, and hands-on exhibits The Borg-Warner Trophy up close Rotating exhibits and fashion at the 500 Janet Guthrie’s iconic bucket hat and inspiring return How the museum is broadening its reach to new fans and future engineers Whether you're a lifelong race fan or brand-new to the sport, this modern museum offers something for every age and interest.

Kristi Lee and Dr. Rob Shumaker sit down with Joe Hale, president of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum, to discuss his remarkable efforts to transform the iconic museum into a world-class destination. Hale shares his personal connection to the Indy 500, how a global fundraising effort helped raise over $100 million, and why preserving the legacy of the 500 matters on an international scale. From humble beginnings as a teacher to leading a major cultural institution, Hale reflects on adventure, legacy, and storytelling, and how the museum now matches the greatness of the race it celebrates.

Comedian Sam Miller joins hosts Kristi Lee and Dr. Rob Shumaker for a powerful and hilarious episode of Worth Your Time. Sam opens up about his past struggles with addiction, incarceration, and homelessness—and how those experiences shaped his unique comedic voice. He shares the deeply moving story behind "The Jail Letters," a collaborative performance with his mother based on their correspondence during his time in prison, and discusses how humor became a tool for survival and connection. Sam also gives a behind-the-scenes look at his new comedy special, talks about performing in prisons, and reveals the real story behind his infamous “Let’s Dance” belly tattoo.

In this special one-year anniversary episode of Worth Your Time, hosts Kristi Lee and Dr. Rob Shumaker welcome comedian Sam Miller. Sam shares his transformative journey from addiction and homelessness to comedy and recovery, highlighting personal anecdotes and challenges he faced along the way.

Kristi Lee and Dr. Rob Shumaker welcome back acclaimed musician Josh Turner for a deep dive into his evolving career, from YouTube sensation to seasoned live performer. They discuss the journey of balancing intimate venues with audience growth, the challenge of blending multiple musical influences, and the art of meaningful collaboration. Josh shares insights into his songwriting process, his plans for a new solo album, and the unexpected ways his music reaches fans across generations. Plus, don’t miss an exclusive live performance of an original song. If you love thoughtful conversations about music, creativity, and artistry, this episode is worth your time.

In this episode, Dr. Rob Shumaker and Kristi Lee sit down with multi-talented musician Josh Turner, whose mesmerizing covers and original compositions have captivated millions on YouTube. They discuss his journey from teenage YouTube performer to acclaimed artist, his viral covers, collaborations, and the power of online audiences in shaping modern music careers. Plus, hear a stunning live performance of Graceland and get an inside look at his creative process. Visit his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@JoshTurnerGuitar

Mel Raines, President and CEO of Pacers Sports & Entertainment, returns for part two of our conversation, diving into her role in transforming Indianapolis into a hub for major sports and entertainment. She shares how she made the leap from political consulting to part of the team orchestrating the 2012 Super Bowl and how that experience led her to oversee Gainbridge Fieldhouse and the business side of the Pacers and Fever. Raines discusses the explosive growth of women’s sports, Caitlin Clark’s impact on the WNBA, and the upcoming 2025 WNBA All-Star Game in Indy. She also opens up about leadership, the lessons she’s learned from working with some of the most powerful figures in politics and sports, and why she hopes being a woman in an executive role soon becomes just a footnote. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in leadership, major event management, and the evolution of professional sports.

Mel Raines, President and CEO of Pacers Sports & Entertainment, joins the podcast to share her remarkable journey from Capitol Hill to the front office of Indiana’s top sports franchises. In this episode, she reveals how a chance internship led to a career in politics, working for Sen. Dan Coats, running major Republican conventions, and ultimately serving as Assistant to Vice President Dick Cheney for Political Affairs.. She shares behind-the-scenes stories of high-stakes moments in Washington, the intensity of presidential transitions, and what it was like inside the White House. Raines also opens up about why she left politics, the challenges of running large-scale events, and how those skills led her to the sports industry. Packed with insight, humor, and a few surprising moments—like when she accidentally hung up on Cheney—this episode is a must-listen for anyone fascinated by politics, leadership, and career pivots.