In this episode, we explore the thrilling world of auditing through a captivating story of fraud with Pamela Stroebel Powers. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by auditors, the importance of vigilance, and the lessons learned from a real-life case study. Pam shares insights on the intricacies of fraud investigations, the significance of documentation, and the necessity of robust internal controls to prevent fraud. The discussion emphasizes the need for auditors to trust their instincts and the critical role of background checks in safeguarding organizations.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Super Auditor
02:02 The Story of Fraud: A Case Study
11:50 Investigating the Fraud: Uncovering Evidence
19:51 Lessons Learned from the Investigation
29:57 The Importance of Background Checks and Controls
About Pamela Stroebel Powers
Pamela began work with The Institute of Internal Auditors in April 2021 and appreciates the opportunity to collaborate, liaison with, advocate for and provide guidance and thought leadership to public sector auditors around the globe.
Pam came to the IIA with 22 years of experience as an internal auditor in Oregon State Government. Over that time, Pam worked for five agencies; she served as the Chief Audit Executive for four of those, established the first in-house internal audit function in two of them, and in one position coordinated the state’s internal audit activities. Pamela also founded Powers CPA, LLC which provided internal audit, consulting and assurance services to government and non-profit entities for five years. Pam began her career as an external auditor with the Audits Division of the Secretary of State. In addition to her audit roles, Pam has served as a contributing faculty member at Willamette University’s Atkinson Graduate School of Management since 2010. Over the course of her career she has provided training on various topics including auditing, risk management, and ethics to agency staff, management and various professional organizations. She has also served as a course facilitator for The IIA, providing training for audit professionals globally. Pam has been an active member of The IIA, having held various leadership and committee positions, both locally and at the global level. Pam earned a Bachelor’s degree in Accounting from Western Baptist College and an MBA from Willamette University.
In this episode, we explore the innovative use of auditing in city services, focusing on equity and the integration of artificial intelligence. Joe Rois, a city auditor, discusses his approach to auditing critical services in San Jose, emphasizing the importance of data-driven decision-making and community impact. The conversation highlights the challenges and successes in ensuring equitable access to city services, as well as the future potential of AI in enhancing audit efficiency.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Super Auditor
00:53 The Role of AI in Auditing
02:31 Equity in City Services
05:06 Auditing Critical City Services
10:01 Findings from the Audits
15:03 Community Impact and Response
20:00 Using AI for Audit Efficiency
25:06 Future of AI in Auditing
About Joe Rois:
Joe is the City Auditor for the City of San José. He joined the Auditor's Office in August 2008 and was appointed City Auditor in June 2019. He holds a Bachelor of Business Administration in Accounting from Gonzaga University and a Master of Public Policy from the University of California at Berkeley. He is also a Certified Public Accountant (CPA).
Since joining the Office, Joe has led and contributed to a wide range of audits that have enhanced services for residents, identified cost-saving opportunities, and increased transparency in city operations. Prior to his work with the city, Joe worked as a consultant to nonprofit organizations in the Bay Area, conducting research and reporting across various public policy areas. Earlier in his career, he worked as a CPA in Seattle and Bellevue, Washington.
In this episode, we explore the impactful world of performance audits through the lens of SuperDoug, a seasoned city auditor! The conversation delves into various audit projects, including the challenges and successes of adapting audits during the COVID-19 pandemic, the importance of public engagement in audit suggestions, and the strategies for building trust with city council members. Listeners will gain insights into how performance audits serve as catalysts for change in local government and the significance of transparency and accountability in community building.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Super Auditor and Performance Audits
01:43 The Role of Performance Audits in Community Building
04:39 Lessons from the Animal Control Audit
06:02 Adapting Audits During COVID-19
09:07 Short-Term Rentals and Legislative Impact
12:47 Engaging the Public in Audit Suggestions
19:45 Building Trust with City Council
24:02 Conclusion and Call to Action
About Doug Jones:
Douglas Jones, CGAP CIA CRMA was appointed County Auditor by the Johnson County, Kansas Board of County Commissioners in January 2025. He has 37 years of private and government auditing experience. Before joining Johnson County government, Doug spent 31 years auditing Kansas City, Missouri, government, the last 11½ years as the City Auditor.
As County Auditor, Doug is responsible for directing the activities of the County Auditor’s Office, interacting with elected officials and county management, and providing elected officials and the public with independent assessments of the work of county government and recommendations to improve operations and strengthen public accountability.
Since 2016, Doug has been a member of the United States Comptroller General’s Domestic Working Group. Doug has been involved in ALGA as chair, vice chair, and member of the Advocacy Committee, a member of the Professional Issues Committee, a team leader or team member for seven peer reviews, and a presenter or roundtable moderator at a number of ALGA annual conferences. He is the past chair of the Mid-America Intergovernmental Audit Forum Executive Committee. Doug has also been a member of the Board of Directors for the Association of Airport Internal Auditors.
Doug is a Certified Government Auditing Professional, Certified Internal Auditor, and holds a Certification in Risk Management Assurance. He has both a Bachelor of Business Administration degree and a Master of Business Administration degree from Wichita State University.
In this engaging conversation, Melisa Galasso shares her insights on the complexities of auditing, particularly focusing on single audits and compliance. She discusses the challenges faced by auditors, the importance of understanding federal guidelines, and the impact of recent changes in administration on auditing standards. Melisa emphasizes the need for specialized knowledge in the auditing field and the shortage of qualified professionals. The discussion also touches on the significance of volunteering in professional organizations for career development and the importance of finding one's niche in the accounting profession.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Audit World
01:56 Understanding Single Audits
05:02 Challenges in Compliance Auditing
09:53 The Importance of Specialized Knowledge
15:00 The Shift in Audit Practices
19:55 The Role of AICPA and GASB
24:54 Volunteerism in the Accounting Profession
30:03 Impact of Standards on Nonprofits
33:57 Conclusion and Call to Action
About Melisa F. Galasso, CPA CSP CPTD:
Passionate about providing confidence, not just compliance, Melisa leads Galasso Learning Solutions as Founder & CEO. Melisa is a nationally recognized authority in designing and facilitating courses on advanced technical accounting and auditing topics, including not-for-profit and governmental accounting. Since 2016, she has guided the GLS team to deliver quality in everything we do.
With a far-ranging career in public accounting, academia and industry and a bachelor’s degree from Georgetown University, Melisa has built a reputation for delivering engaging, effective learning experiences for CPAs. Committed to advancing our profession, she has served on multiple committees for leading industry organizations including the AICPA and FASB, written the nonprofit accounting book, “Money Matters for Nonprofits,” and has been honored with the Top 50 Women in Accounting Award, the Rising Star award from NAWBO Charlotte, and “40 under 40” recognition by CPA Practice Advisor.
In her free time, Melisa loves spending time with her family and can often be found at one of her daughter’s horse shows, supporting the arts with tickets to the orchestra, volunteering, or speaking a bit of French or Spanish on one of her treasured quarterly vacations.
Listen as we dive into the thrilling world of audits and financial reviews. In this episode, we meet Vickie Murphy, the iron-willed audit commander, who leads a team of 31 auditors with precision and expertise. Discover the challenges and triumphs of auditing Valley Metro's bus contracts, uncovering compliance issues, and ensuring public safety. With insights from Vickie's extensive career, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the power of audits to drive change and accountability. Don't forget to subscribe and share with your fellow audit enthusiasts!
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction to the Audit World
02:06 - Valley Metro Audit Overview
03:59 - Procurement and Contract Monitoring Challenges
08:45 - Change Order Issues and Recommendations
10:18 - Contract Monitoring Forms and Inconsistencies
14:49 - Public Safety Concerns in Auditing
15:36 - Invoice Processing and Payment Issues
18:04 - Financial Reporting and Cost Categorization
22:08 - Conclusion and Future Recommendations
23:42 - Invoice Review and Documentation Issues
27:41 - Federal Compliance and Change Orders
31:10 - Miscellaneous Reimbursements and Contractual Gaps
32:43 - Operational Efficiency vs. Financial Oversight
35:12 - Recommendations and Future Improvements
36:01 - Career Progression and Audit Insights
39:39 - Experiences in Corrections and Internal Auditing
41:02 - Certifications and Professional Development
46:42 - Balancing Creativity and Compliance
About Vickie Murphy:
Vickie Murphy, CPA CIA CFE CGAP CICA CCSA CRMA is currently the Chief Auditor at the Arizona Department of Transportation. Her office is responsible for performing performance audits, financial audits, compliance audits and tax audits. Vickie has devoted her career to public service and helping to improve internal controls and accountability. Vickie has also been a facilitator for the Institute of Internal Auditors for over ten years.
After graduating from the University of Montana, Vickie started her audit career working for the Montana Legislative Auditor’s Office performing financial compliance audits. She wanted to have an opportunity to provide more detailed help to an organization, so she became an Internal Auditor for the Montana Department of Corrections. As part of that role, she led specialized employees on contract facility compliance reviews. Eventually she moved to the Montana Department of Transportation and held several roles before moving into the Chief Auditor position. After 10 years, she retired from there and moved south to Arizona.
Vickie has a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration with emphasis in Accounting and an emphasis in Finance. She is a Certified Public Accountant, Certified Fraud Examiner, Certified Internal Auditor, Certified Government Auditing Professional, Certified Internal Control Auditor, Certified in Risk Management and Assurance, and Certified in Control Self Assessments.
Vickie served as the Training Officer for the Big Sky Chapter of Certified Fraud Examiners having held various positions within the chapter for 16 years. She served on the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners Scholarship committee for five years. She was actively involved in national committees related to the American Association of State Highway Transportation Officials (AASHTO) Internal/External Audit Committee and is currently the Secretary of the committee.
In this episode, we explore the intricate world of auditing within the San Francisco Department of Police Accountability. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by a one-person audit team, the significance of stop data in ensuring police accountability, and the implications of racial profiling in data reporting. Steve Flaherty shares insights on the audit process, data integrity, and best practices for law enforcement agencies, highlighting the importance of accurate data collection and analysis in fostering public trust.
Steve discusses the complexities of police data collection and auditing, focusing on the challenges faced by officers, the effectiveness of training, and the implications of data integrity. He shares insights from an audit of the San Francisco Police Department, highlighting the transition to new data systems, the analysis of data errors, and the importance of community engagement in understanding policing practices. The conversation emphasizes the need for transparency and the role of auditors in ensuring data reliability.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Super Auditor
02:06 The Role of a One-Person Audit Team
03:52 Understanding the Department of Police Accountability
05:53 The Importance of Stop Data in Audits
07:36 Investigating Racial Profiling in Stop Data
09:59 Assessing Data Integrity and Reporting Practices
12:35 Challenges in Audit Processes
14:29 Testing Data Reliability and Integrity
18:14 Best Practices in Data Collection
20:33 Addressing Racial Misrepresentation in Data
22:50 Benchmarking Against Other Jurisdictions
24:52 Understanding the Core Issues in Police Data Collection
27:05 Officer Perspectives and Challenges in Data Reporting
28:51 Evaluating Data Collection Tools and Their Impact
30:35 Transitioning to New Data Systems: Pros and Cons
32:55 Analyzing Data Errors and Their Implications
34:39 Insights from the Audit Process and Findings
38:49 Lessons Learned and Future Directions for Auditing
41:52 Engaging with the Community and Data Transparency
About Steve Flaherty:
Steve Flaherty is the Director of Audits at the San Francisco Department of Police Accountability (DPA). Steve established the department’s audit function and has led projects on police use of force and the handling of officer misconduct. Previously, Steve served as Associate Director at the City and County of San Francisco’s Office of the Controller, where he oversaw audit teams in the City Services Auditor division. He holds a BA in Business-Economics and is a Certified Public Accountant (inactive), Certified Internal Auditor, and Certified Fraud Examiner.
Join us on "Auditors Save the World!" as we dive into the thrilling world of audits with Ty Elliott, a fearless defender of public interest. Discover how Ty blazed the audit trail in Texas, turning overlooked objectives into vital safeguards for city data and infrastructure. From his passion for dance to his strategic insights in cybersecurity, Ty's story is one of innovation and dedication. Tune in to learn how he navigates the complexities of audit functions and builds lasting relationships with management and the community.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction to "Auditors Save the World!"
02:15 - Meet Ty: The Fearless Auditor
05:30 - Blazing the Audit Trail in Texas
10:45 - The Dance of Auditing and Community Engagement
15:00 - Strategic Insights in Cybersecurity
20:30 - Building Lasting Relationships with Management
25:00 - Conclusion and Call to Action
About Ty Elliott
Ty Elliott has over 20 years of experience in local government auditing, including more than 17 years as the Chief Audit Executive for the City of College Station, TX. Before that, he served as a Senior Financial Systems Auditor for the City of Atlanta, GA, and held roles in the finance departments of Aurora, CO, and Lehi, UT. Ty has been actively involved with the Brazos Valley Chapter of the Institute of Internal Auditors, serving as president, vice president, and board member. He is a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA), Certified Fraud Examiner (CFE), and Certified Government Auditing Professional (CGAP). He holds a Master of Public Administration and a Bachelor of Science in Finance from Brigham Young University.
Join us for an eye-opening episode of "Auditor Saved the World" as we explore the remarkable story of Jay Poole, the City Auditor turned Justice Catalyst. Discover how a routine audit of a city department's purchases led to unexpected revelations and state-level reforms. From the quirky expenditure by an elected sheriff to the community-changing outcomes, Jay's tale is a testament to the power of curiosity and control. Tune in to learn how an audit dubbed "Jail Fail" by the press became a catalyst for healing and transformation. Don't miss this captivating episode filled with insights, courage, and a call to action for all truth seekers. Subscribe now and be part of this thrilling journey!
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:30 Jay's Background and Career
05:45 The Jail Fail Audit
12:00 Challenges and Discoveries
18:15 Community and State Reactions
24:00 The Path to Reform
30:45 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action
About Jay Poole:
Jay graduated from the Bernard M. Baruch College of the City University of New York. He retired from his position as City Auditor and Chief Audit Executive for the City of Chesapeake, Virginia in 2021 after serving the city since 1991. Prior to that, he served in several auditing positions in New York State for nine years, and another Virginia locality for one year. He is a former President and Newsletter Editor of the Virginia Local Government Auditors Association, and a former Board Member, Secretary, and two-time Advocacy Chair of the Association of Local Government Auditors (ALGA). Jay has presented at numerous regional, statewide, and national professional conferences and completed two U.S. State Department Speaker projects. Jay was also the recipient of the 2021 Distinguished Local Government Leadership Award from the AGA, and a 2021 Lifetime Achievement Award from ALGA.
In this thrilling episode of "Auditor Saved the World," we dive into the inspiring journey of Mark Funkhouser, a former teacher and social worker turned powerhouse performance auditor. Discover how Mark's passion for justice and precision transformed him into a hero impacting thousands of lives. From his humble beginnings in West Virginia to his groundbreaking work in Kansas City, Mark shares his secrets for amplifying impact and turning effort into meaningful change. Tune in to learn how purpose meets power in the world of auditing, and be inspired by Mark's relentless drive to make every action count. Don't miss this action-packed episode filled with insights, stories, and a call to action for all truth seekers. Subscribe now and join us on this adventure!
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:15 Mark's Early Career
05:30 Transition to Auditing
10:45 Impactful Audits and Innovations
15:20 Lessons from International Audits
20:00 Mark's Vision for the Future
25:30 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action
About Mark Funkhouser:
Mark Funkhouser is a municipal finance and government performance expert who has spent decades in public service.
As the mayor of Kansas City during the Great Recession, Mark made the tough choices to put his city on the path to fiscal sustainability and focused on “smart with the money” policy approaches to make the city work for regular people. As the publisher of Governing magazine, Mark continued his commitment to good government through promoting innovation and peer learning across state and local jurisdictions.
In 2019, he founded Funkhouser & Associates, a consulting firm that supports the work of local governments and their partners through engagement, strategic planning, capacity development and fiscal analysis.
Mark is the founder of the International Center for Performance Auditing (ICPA) and a founding member of the Association of Local Government Auditors (ALGA). He previously spent 18 years with the Office of the City Auditor of Kansas City and 10 years with the Tennessee Division of State Audit. He has dedicated his career, research and writing to advancing the public sector performance auditing profession and strengthening its real-world impact.
Mark holds a master’s degree in social work from West Virginia University, an MBA from Tennessee State University, and an interdisciplinary PhD in public administration and urban sociology from the University of Missouri at Kansas City.
In this episode, we explore the parallels between auditing and investigative journalism, focusing on the importance of exposing corruption and the challenges faced by journalists in today's media landscape. The conversation highlights the decline of investigative reporting, the rise of independent journalism, and the impact of corporate ownership on media bias. The guest shares personal experiences of navigating these challenges while advocating for the underdog and holding power accountable.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Auditing World
02:00 The Role of Investigative Journalism
06:58 Exposing Corruption in Government
12:03 The Decline of Investigative Reporting
17:59 The Rise of Independent Journalism
22:04 Navigating Bias in Media
28:00 The Impact of Corporate Ownership on Journalism
34:12 The Challenges of Being a Journalist
39:58 Conclusion and Reflections on Journalism
About Sue-Ann Levy:
Sue-Ann Levy built up a loyal readership of both fans and detractors over her 31 years on the political and investigative beats for the Toronto Sun and the Post Media chain of newspapers.
Openly gay and right-of-center politically, Sue-Ann was one of the top read Toronto Sun columnists because of her outspoken opinions, take-no-prisoners writing style and the fearless way with which she tackled the elitists in government, other publicly funded institutions and in the media. She made it her crusade to expose waste and mismanagement, to promote an unpopular cost-cutting agenda and to probe issues no other journalists have dared to tackle.
Her exposes included investigations into the largest social housing company in North America, the homeless and poverty industries, the Pan Am Games, and the unaffordable affordable housing business.
In late August of 2016, Sue-Ann's first book - Underdog: Confessions of a Right-Wing, Gay Jewish Muckraker - was released by Penguin Random House Canada to rave reviews and media coverage across Canada and in such international publications as the Times of Israel.
Sue-Ann is a seasoned pundit and public speaker on a variety of political, gay, Jewish and topical issues and has been asked regularly to appear at conferences and on political panels.
Since her retirement from full-time reporting in 2021, Sue-Ann has freelanced for the independent platform True North, focusing on range of op-ed topics including the education system and the rabid rise in anti-Semitism over the past 19 months.
A seasoned runner, Sue-Ann achieved her dream of running the Jerusalem half-marathon in March of 2018, one of the top five most difficult courses in the world. She divides her time between Toronto, Canada and Delray Beach, Florida with her wife, Denise Alexander and their three politically incorrect dachshunds, Fritzy, Monty and pipsqueak Frida.
In this episode, we explore the challenges and triumphs of an audit conducted on animal services in Denton, Texas. The audit team faced significant pressure from the community to uncover the truth about the treatment of animals, leading to 34 recommendations aimed at improving care and accountability. The discussion highlights the importance of follow-up audits, innovative management solutions, and effective client relationships in ensuring that audit findings lead to real change.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Audit Heroes
01:23 The Animal Services Audit: A Community's Concern
05:00 Challenges and Findings in Animal Services
10:46 Innovations in Animal Care Management
15:18 The Importance of Follow-Up Audits
19:23 Advice for New Auditors and Client Management
23:00 Community Engagement and Accountability
About Madison Rorschach
Madison Rorschach was appointed to the role of City Auditor by the City Council in August 2020 after joining the City of Denton as a Staff Auditor in January 2019. Prior to joining the City of Denton, Rorschach was the Assistant City Auditor with the City of College Station, TX for four years. Madison is an active member of the Association of Local Government Auditors, including serving as the Secretary on the Board of Directors and previously serving as an At-Large Board Member and Chair of the Association's Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Committee. Rorschach is a Certified Internal Auditor and Certified Government Auditing Professional.
Madison received a Bachelor or Economics from Texas A&M University and is currently working towards a Juris Doctorate at the University of North Texas at Dallas’ College of Law.
In this episode of Auditors Save the World, we explore the thrilling journey of auditing through the eyes of Matthew, a seasoned auditor who recounts his experiences in Guam during a financial crisis. The conversation delves into the challenges faced in reconstructing financial records, the dynamics of intergovernmental agreements, and the evolution of auditing practices. Matthew shares valuable insights on the importance of writing skills for auditors and reflects on his transition from federal auditing to becoming a city auditor.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Super Auditor
01:58 The Island of Lost Ledgers
06:11 The Crisis in Guam
10:01 Reconstructing Financial Records
14:21 The Zero-Sum Game of Auditing
20:18 Transition to City Auditor
24:26 Advice for New Auditors
ABOUT MATTHEW P. GRADY
The year was 1990. The Cold War had ended, and the Pacific Northwest was all the rage with the rise of Nirvana and the Grunge Rock scene. Meanwhile, in Northern California, Matthew Grady, a self-proclaimed bum, who had drifted aimlessly through much of his twenties had just graduated magna cum laude from San Jose State University with an accounting degree and taken an entry level position with the U.S. Justice Department, Office of the Inspector General.
Matthew’s somewhat circuitous path to City Auditor for the City of Killeen began with a 20-year stint in the Inspector General’s San Francisco Regional Audit Office, where he rose from junior auditor to Assistant Regional Audit Manager. He left the federal government after 20 years and ventured to the rocky shores of American Samoa, for a three-year tour as Comptroller of the American Samoa Government’s Treasury Department. Matthew’s return stateside included two brief, but fun-filled romps. First, as Audit Manager for the Clark County Washington Audit Office. And then as Senior Auditor for the Berkeley City Auditor before taking on the role of City Auditor for Killeen, Texas. He currently resides in Killeen with five cats.
In this episode, we explore the impactful journey of Corrie, an audit leader in Austin, who has dedicated her career to ensuring transparency and accountability through rigorous audits. The conversation delves into the challenges faced in code compliance audits, the findings from multiple audits, and the recommendations made to improve processes. Corrie shares insights on the complexities of Austin's code and permitting processes, the importance of equitable treatment for residents, and the future audits planned to address community needs.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Audit Crusader
00:53 Cori's Journey and Impact on Austin
01:59 Exploring Code Compliance Audits
06:11 Findings and Recommendations from the First Audit
09:05 Follow-Up Audit and Ongoing Challenges
12:03 Recommendations for Improvement
15:02 The Complexity of Austin's Code and Permitting
Process
17:57 Future Audits and Community Impact
23:55 Conclusion and Call to Action
ABOUT CORRIE STOKES:
Corrie is the City Auditor in Austin, Texas. Since joining the City of Austin in 1999, Corrie has had the opportunity to evaluate most areas of City operations. She was appointed as City Auditor by the Austin City Council in 2015. Corrie has delivered trainings and presentations on auditing fundamentals, peer review, fraud consideration, and various audit analysis tools. Corrie is a self-professed nerd, and is particularly nerdy about auditing, maps, local history, and craft beer.
Corrie is a member of the Comptroller General’s Domestic Working Group and Yellow Book Advisory Council. She is also a past president of the Association of Local Government Auditors (ALGA), serves as chair of ALGA’s Peer Review Committee, and is on the executive committee of the Southwest Intergovernmental Audit Forum. She is a Certified Internal Auditor, Certified Government Auditing Professional, and Certified Fraud Examiner. She has a Bachelor of Arts in Urban Studies from Trinity University and a Master of Public Affairs from the University of Texas.
In this episode, we explore the tumultuous journey of Bob, an auditor who faced public scrutiny and professional challenges after exposing fraud. The conversation delves into the complexities of whistleblowing, the importance of legal counsel, and the impact of media relations on an auditor's reputation. Bob shares valuable lessons learned from his experiences, emphasizing the need for integrity and resilience in the auditing profession.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Audit Adventure
01:49 From Infamy to Integrity: Bob's Journey
03:06 The Fallout of Whistleblowing
08:43 Navigating Media Relations as an Auditor
10:14 The Importance of Legal Counsel
12:40 The Consequences of Fraud Investigations
18:01 Lessons Learned from a Fraud Case
20:50 The Impact of Reputation in Auditing
24:55 Reflections on a Career in Auditing
ABOUT ROBERT RUBEL
Robert F. Rubel Jr., MBA, CPA, CIA, CISA is a proficient audit and compliance leader with extensive experience in risk management, financial reporting, healthcare operations, auditing, and federal compliance. He designed and implemented new processes to build successful teams and drive leading practices in internal audit and compliance. Bob built relationships with executive team members and peers to share successful strategies and manage enterprise risks. He developed and implemented “Effectively Controlling Risks” a COSO based model to improve internal controls across the University of Texas System institutions.
Bob holds an MBA in Healthcare Administration with Honors from UT Dallas and a BBA in Accounting from UT Arlington. Bob serves as the Chief Internal Audit Officer at Dallas ISD since February 2021. Previously, he was the Audit Manager, City of Dallas, Audit Director at UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas and Assistant State Auditor at the Texas State Auditor’s Office.
In this episode, we delve into the intricate world of auditing, focusing on a decade-long fraud case that highlights the importance of vigilance and skepticism in financial oversight. The conversation explores the various methods employed by fraudsters, the psychological aspects of fraud, and the eventual recovery of lost funds through diligent auditing practices. Through engaging storytelling, the episode emphasizes the critical role of auditors in maintaining financial integrity and accountability.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the World of Auditing
02:04 Unveiling the Decade of Deceit
07:22 The Fraud Triangle: Incentive, Opportunity, and Rationalization
10:34 The Mechanics of Fraud: How It Was Done
17:48 The Aftermath: Consequences and Recovery
ABOUT ROBERT RUBEL
Robert F. Rubel Jr., MBA, CPA, CIA, CISA is a proficient audit and compliance leader with extensive experience in risk management, financial reporting, healthcare operations, auditing, and federal compliance. He designed and implemented new processes to build successful teams and drive leading practices in internal audit and compliance. Bob built relationships with executive team members and peers to share successful strategies and manage enterprise risks. He developed and implemented “Effectively Controlling Risks” a COSO based model to improve internal controls across the University of Texas System institutions.
Bob holds an MBA in Healthcare Administration with Honors from UT Dallas and a BBA in Accounting from UT Arlington. Bob serves as the Chief Internal Audit Officer at Dallas ISD since February 2021. Previously, he was the Audit Manager, City of Dallas, Audit Director at UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas and Assistant State Auditor at the Texas State Auditor’s Office.
In this engaging conversation, Bob shares his journey through the auditing profession, highlighting key lessons learned along the way. From his early days in oil and gas accounting to his experiences in higher education and medical auditing, Bob emphasizes the importance of trust, verification, and on-site presence in auditing. He recounts valuable insights gained from working with a Nobel Prize winner and discusses the evolving role of auditors in providing support and guidance within organizations. The conversation culminates in reflections on the significance of communication and leadership in the auditing field.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Audit Adventures
03:03 Bob's Early Career in Auditing
06:01 Lessons from the State Auditor's Office
09:06 Experiences in Higher Education Auditing
12:08 The Importance of On-Site Auditing
14:55 Insights from a Nobel Prize Winner
17:57 Navigating Challenges in Medical Auditing
20:58 The Role of Communication in Auditing
23:55 Final Thoughts and Lessons Learned
ABOUT ROBERT RUBEL
Robert F. Rubel Jr., MBA, CPA, CIA, CISA is a proficient audit and compliance leader with extensive experience in risk management, financial reporting, healthcare operations, auditing, and federal compliance. He designed and implemented new processes to build successful teams and drive leading practices in internal audit and compliance. Bob built relationships with executive team members and peers to share successful strategies and manage enterprise risks. He developed and implemented “Effectively Controlling Risks” a COSO based model to improve internal controls across the University of Texas System institutions.
Bob holds an MBA in Healthcare Administration with Honors from UT Dallas and a BBA in Accounting from UT Arlington. Bob serves as the Chief Internal Audit Officer at Dallas ISD since February 2021. Previously, he was the Audit Manager, City of Dallas, Audit Director at UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas and Assistant State Auditor at the Texas State Auditor’s Office.
In this episode, we explore the critical role of auditors in addressing domestic terrorism and public safety through a case study of the Oregon State Capitol incident. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by auditors, including legal limitations, the need for clear definitions, and the importance of a structured approach to risk management. The discussion emphasizes the necessity of training, the significance of understanding root causes of extremism, and the impact of legislative responses to audit findings.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Super Auditor
01:21 Case Study: The Oregon State Capitol Incident
02:46 Navigating Legal Challenges in Auditing
05:58 Identifying Risks in Domestic Terrorism
10:37 The Importance of Clear Definitions and Jurisdiction
13:59 Developing a Statewide Strategy for Countering Extremism
16:52 The Role of Control Environment in Auditing
20:46 Training and Its Limitations in Auditing
24:44 Addressing Root Causes of Violent Extremism
29:59 Constitutional Considerations in Monitoring Extremism
32:06 Legislative Response and Impact of the Audit
ABOUT CASEY KOPCHO:
Casey Kopcho is a recognized expert in public sector auditing, governance, emerging technologies, and risks with over 20 years of experience spanning internal & performance auditing, risk management, and finance transformation. He has worked extensively across public and private sectors, providing assurance that critical business processes operate efficiently, effectively, and equitably.
Casey has held key leadership roles, serving on audit committees and as an advisor for complex government and regulatory programs. He is a subject matter expert on risk-based auditing, climate risk, health system, AI governance, and ethics. He currently serves as Principal Auditor for the Oregon Secretary of State where he delivers award winning work on projects ranging from how the state mitigates risk of Domestic Violent Extremism to how the state manages its Mental Health Treatment System. Before arriving in Oregon, he worked for the Texas Department of Transportation where he lead teams to deliver audits of the largest transportation system in the country.
Casey also spent a number of years working alongside experts at Deloitte & Touche, advising federal and state agencies on strategic risk management and compliance, and at the U.S. Government Accountability Office, where he conducted financial audits that helped shape public policy.
A sought-after speaker and thought leader, he delivers keynote addresses and professional training sessions nationwide on topics ranging from Generative AI in auditing to ethical leadership in government. In addition to his practical experience, Casey contributes to thought leadership through published articles, webinar instruction, and contributions to professional organizations.
Beyond his work in audit and governance, Casey spends his days with his wife and two children, and is working on his first novel, blending his passion for history, philosophy, and storytelling. His deep understanding of the intersection between governance, technology, and accountability makes him a trusted voice in the evolving landscape of public sector audit and oversight. Casey earned both Bachelor’s and Master’s in Accounting and Information Management from the University of Texas at Dallas and maintains his active CIA credential.
In this episode of Auditor Save the World, we explore the fascinating journey of Kelly, a fraud investigator who transitioned from a stockbroker to uncovering financial wrongdoing. Kelly shares her insights on the importance of collaboration between auditors and investigators, the need for integrity in the auditing process, and creative strategies for detecting fraud. Through engaging anecdotes and case studies, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the auditing profession and the critical role it plays in ensuring accountability and transparency in organizations.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction to the Super Auditor
00:52 - Kelly's Journey into Fraud Investigation
04:06 - The Role of Auditors and Investigators
09:54 - Building Relationships with Auditors
14:06 - The Importance of Integrity in Auditing
19:53 - Creative Approaches to Fraud Detection
26:08 - Case Study: Embezzlement in a Nonprofit
34:02 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
ABOUT KELLY PAXTON:
Kelly Paxton is a nationally recognized expert in fraud. After interviewing thousands of "good" people she knew, many never saw themselves as having made bad decisions. Everyone wants to think they are a good person. Kelly has investigated hundreds of cases ranging from money laundering to conflict of interest to embezzlement. Her hands-on investigative experience for the government and private sector, along with research into criminal behavior and investigating for both the prosecution and defense, provides real-life, practical information.
In this episode, we explore the inspiring story of Laura, a city auditor in Long Beach, who bravely confronted corruption and mismanagement surrounding the iconic Queen Mary. Through her audits, Laura uncovered significant financial discrepancies and fraud, ultimately leading to the city taking control of the Queen Mary after years of failed private management. The conversation highlights the importance of integrity, accountability, and the challenges faced by public auditors in protecting taxpayer interests.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Heroic Auditor
00:52 The Story of Laura: A City Auditor's Journey
01:46 The Queen Mary: A Historical Icon in Decline
06:06 Challenges in Managing the Queen Mary
09:53 The $23 Million Dilemma
13:59 Uncovering Fraud: The Audit Process
17:53 The Aftermath of Urban Commons' Mismanagement
21:54 The City Takes Control of the Queen Mary
26:13 Lessons Learned and Future Plans
ABOUT LAURA DOUD:
As the elected City Auditor of Long Beach, Laura Doud leads an Office that provides independent audits and reviews of operations to make Long Beach better. City Auditor Doud was first elected in 2006, and since then has focused on internal improvements that best meet the needs of the community and provide increased value to the City.
Past recommendations from her audits have resulted in changes to the City Charter and City Municipal Code to improve the security of City assets and bring additional revenues to the City. These increased revenues have allowed the City to provide additional and improved services to the public. She championed the passage of Proposition H – the Oil Production Tax Measure that has resulted in bringing in around $3 million every year, and totaling over $52 million, for public safety including police officers and firefighters at no cost to the taxpayers. Her analysis of the Port of Long Beach transfer to the City led to the passage of the Harbor Initiative resulting in over $259 million for the City’s Tidelands area projects which have included increased beach safety patrol, new beach facilities, the Colorado Lagoon restoration, and Alamitos Bay improvements.
In addition to completing significant audits of the Queen Mary and the Long Beach Police Department, her Office has received nationally award-winning audits of the City’s Towing Operations, Parking Citations Collections Process, Police and Fire Dispatcher Overtime, the Business Improvement District Program, Animal Care Services, the Long Beach Museum of Art, the Police Evidence Control Section, and Library Services. These awards highlighted the significant impact of the audits which focus on effective and efficient government.
City Auditor Doud revitalized the City Auditor’s Fraud Hotline, so tips related to City fraud, waste, and abuse can be reported anonymously by anyone at any time. The Office has received, reviewed, and investigated over 550 tips of fraud, waste, and abuse of City resources resulting in many important corrective action recommendations issued to City departments.
In addition to her public service, she is an active member of her church and supports many community organizations. She serves on the Leadership Long Beach Honorary Board of Governors and the Ukleja Center for Ethical Leadership at California State University, Long Beach. Before running for office, City Auditor Doud was the Controller of the Water Replenishment District.
City Auditor Doud graduated from California State University, Long Beach with a degree in accounting. She earned her law degree (JD) at Pacific Coast University School of Law. She is a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) and Certified Fraud Examiner (CFE). She lives in Long Beach with her husband, Jim, and their daughter, Kelly.
In this episode, we explore the critical role of auditors in safeguarding vulnerable populations, particularly children, through rigorous audits and legislative advocacy. The conversation highlights the ongoing challenges faced by the North Dakota Department of Health and Human Services in responding to child abuse cases, the significant delays in response times, and the collaborative efforts between auditors, legislators, and the press to drive change and improve public health outcomes.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Super Auditor
01:51 The Fight Against Child Abuse
11:49 Audit Findings and Legislative Actions
17:57 Broader Impact of Audits on Public Health
24:10 The Role of the State Auditor
ABOUT JOSHUA GALLION:
Josh was elected as North Dakota's 17th State Auditor in November 2016. He prioritizes transparency in government by making audit reports accessible to the public. Under his leadership, the Auditor’s Office has identified intentional misspending across all levels of government and has received national awards for audit excellence.
In addition to his past service in the U.S. Air Force, he also holds degrees in accounting and business administration. Josh has over 15 years of public service serving in leadership capacities for the state of North Dakota, and is actively involved in volunteering in the community.