Free speech is under fire — especially in the realms of health, money, and power. In this BTC Prague 2025 panel, Efrat Fenigson moderates a conversation with Dr. Jack Kruse, Dr. Alexis Cowan, Kevin McKernan, and Tristan Scott on modern censorship and how Bitcoiners are pushing back.
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This was the most powerful panel I ever moderated. Do yourself a favor and listen in, and it does NOT matter if you're in Bitcoin or not. If you care about freedom, free speech, decentralization of power, and living a healthy sovereign life, just listen.
Big kudos to BTC Prague for being so open minded and freedom oriented to welcome this topic and our voices on stage.
This sharp panel was with Dr. Jack Kruse, Dr. Alexis Jazmyn, Kevin McKernan, and Tristan Scott (Daylight Computers). Dr. Jessica Rose was supposed to be there on stage with us and couldn’t.
Let me know what you thought in the comments!
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My guest today is Dr. Alexis Cowan, PhD,, a Princeton-trained molecular biologist specializing in metabolism, mitochondrial function, and circadian biology. We talk about why modern science has drifted into scientism, how mitochondrial dysfunction sits at the root of nearly every chronic disease, and why reclaiming sovereignty over your health is both radical and necessary. We dive deep into light biology, circadian rhythms, sun exposure, quantum biology, and the incentives that shape (and distort) modern medicine. We also explore Alexis’ personal health journey, her break from academia, her work with Jack Kruse’s ideas, and how Bitcoin, self-custody, and proof-of-work thinking mirror biological truth.
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00:00 – Coming up..
01:40 - Intro to Dr. Alexis Cowan
05:05 - Why is Alexis dancing?
08:30 - Biology & health in the spiritual, divinity lense
10:15 - Why did Alexis chose medical & biology route
16:35 – Mitochondria, ATP & how energy actually works
26:30 - Why modern science isn’t focused on Mitochondria?
32:43 – Ad Break – Trezor & Abundant Mines
34:49 – How light regulates biology: circadian signaling & daily habits
40:37 – Blue light + UV fear: the “block UV at all costs” narrative
45:41 – Melanin, skin tone, sunlight, & artificial lights
59:40 - Skin cancer & the sun’s benefits
1:03:36 – Get a tan to reduce nnEMF / Wireless / 5G radiation!
1:07:37 – Mitochondria’s health, Transhumanism and nnEMF damages
1:19:09 – Ad Break – Expat Money & New Totalitarian Order (Mattias Desmet)
1:20:55 - Grounding benefits
1:24:49 – Where should we live geographically?
1:29:00 – Overcast & geoengineered skies impact on light therapy
1:34:30 – Adverse reactions & cancer post C jabs
1:40:40 - Prepare your body to travel & flights
1:44:40 – Tips for trauma, anti-depression and stress
1:56:05 - The vision for decentralized science & health
2:04:30 – The education system problems & Alexis’ suggestions
2:08:30 - Bitcoiners, incentives & sovereignty
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From open‑source privacy pioneer to federal inmate, Keonne Rodriguez, the mind behind Samourai Wallet, sits down to explain why the DOJ’s “regulation‑by‑prosecution” saga matters to every crypto user, developer, and civil‑rights advocate. This episode was broadcasted LIVE on Tuesday, Dec. 16th 2025, 10am EST.
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My guest today is Aaron Murphy, founder of MurphsLife Foundation, a storyteller and builder working across Latin America to turn direct aid into long-term, dignity-first systems. We sit down in El Salvador’s National Palace to talk about what happens when you hit rock bottom—and choose responsibility, faith, and service instead of collapse. Murph shares his journey from addiction, debt, panic attacks, and near-death experiences to building villages, farms, and regenerative communities that have already impacted tens of thousands of people. We talk about why life doesn’t get easier—you simply choose which kind of “hard” you’re willing to live with—and why real sovereignty starts with food, land, shelter, and low time preference. We explore inflation, the fragility of the dollar system, and why Bitcoin matters not as speculation, but as intergenerational infrastructure for families who currently live in survival mode. Murph explains his vision for using Bitcoin to help entire villages escape poverty—not through handouts, but through ownership, education, and long-term incentives. Finally, we go deep into faith, suffering, fasting, and the idea that meaning comes from choosing a mission larger than yourself.
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01:25 – Introducing Murph & Murph’sLife Foundation
06:52 – Childhood Poverty, Responsibility & the Inner Child
10:15 – Anxiety, Addiction, Debt & Hitting Rock Bottom
18:00 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines
19:58 – Starting MurphsLife & Leaving Everything Behind
23:50 – COVID & Finding El Salvador
31:48 – Building Villages, Not Charity
35:25 – Bitcoin, Low Time Preference & Generational Wealth
40:16 – Meaning Beyond Comfort & Ego
42:41 - Ad Break
44:44 - “Pick Your Hard” & Surrender to God
49:40 – Why People Resonate With Murph
56:00 – How To Support MurphsLife
1:00:00 – BEHIND THE SCENES: Peek into MurphsLife
My guest today is Zuby, a British-Nigerian rapper, author, podcaster, and public speaker, raised in Saudi Arabia and known for building an independent career outside traditional gatekeepers. We sit down in El Salvador’s National Palace to talk about why money doesn’t create courage, it only amplifies the character you already have, and why simply telling obvious truths has somehow become “brave” in modern society. Zuby reflects on speaking out during COVID-era, the incentives that keep public figures silent, and how courage is a muscle that either grows through use or atrophies through avoidance. We also explore the monetary crossroads ahead: Bitcoin as self-sovereign digital money vs. CBDCs as programmable control, the coming decentralization of states and culture, and why most people struggle to engage with money at all. Zuby argues that learning Bitcoin is one of the best time-ROIs you can make, and makes the case for a simple first step: get off zero. Finally, we go deeper into faith, the “black pill” trap, and why hope, meaning, and urgency come from remembering we don’t live forever.
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00:00 - Coming Up…
01:42 - Introducing Zuby: A Multi-Talented Personality
04:42 - Courage, Wealth, and Speaking Out
11:22 - Ad Break - Trezor & Abundant Mines
18:22 - The Craziness of Covid
21:42 - The Godly Spark
30:35 - Creating An Independent Career
37:15 - The Future of Money & Bitcoin
50:26 - Resistance to Change & Learning About Money
59:16 - How Zuby Shows “Fix The Money Fix The World”?
1:19:16 - Spiritual Awakening & Faith
1:30:06 - Inspiration & Hope
My guest today is Lea Petrasova, co-founder and CEO of Vexl, a peer-to-peer bitcoin app that lets people exchange bitcoin privately, without identification (KYC) or any middlemen. Lea is a prominent voice in the European cypherpunk community, dedicated to privacy, digital freedom, and restoring bitcoin’s original peer-to-peer design. We discuss why identity-linked bitcoin undermines true self-custody, how tightening cash controls and app-store censorship accelerate financial surveillance, and why Vexl chose to remain open-source and non-profit. Lea explains Vexl’s reputation-based trust model, the real risks of “dirty fiat,” and the growing global push toward CBDCs and digital IDs. We also explore how Vexl is evolving into a local marketplace for everything from food to services to hardware, showing how private, person-to-person exchange can quietly rebuild resilient, grassroots economies.
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00:00 Coming Up…
01:23 Introduction to Lea
05:58 Leah's Journey: From Academia to Bitcoin
09:08 The Birth of Vexl
12:33 Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines
15:28 The Problem Vexl is Solving - Purchasing Bitcoin As Intended
23:08 Vexl Locality & Reputation’s Model
31:56 Ensuring User Safety & Bad Actor
33:48 The 1984 Apple Campaign Hypocrisy on Privacy
37:08 Launching The Freedom Store
40:08 Privacy In Today’s Surveillance Reality
43:58 Privacy in Bitcoin
47:00 Balancing Trust & Usability in Privacy Tools
54:00 Sustaining Open Source Projects, via Grants
55:20 What Keeps Lea Motivated?
My guest today is Lorraine Marcel, founder of Bitcoin Dada and its technical arm Dada Devs for women across Africa. She’s a financial activist reshaping Africa’s fintech landscape by training women across 12 countries in financial literacy, Bitcoin fundamentals, and technical development. We talk about how mobile money like M-Pesa, limited banking access, and cultural barriers around property shape the economic reality for African women, and why Bitcoin in much of Africa is used first for payments and day-to-day survival rather than long-term savings. We also explore the expanding reach of CBDC and VASP regulation, and why women-led projects such as Tando and Dada Devs are critical for building practical, grassroots Bitcoin economies that actually serve people on the ground.
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00:00 - Coming Up…
01:50 - Lorraine's Background & Intro
04:33 - Financial Challenges of African Women
07:33 - Discovering Bitcoin & Initial Struggles
09:33 - Building “Bitcoin Dada” For Women
11:40 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines
20:45 - Lorraine’s Mission Improves Lives
23:13 - Women’s Teaching Approach
25:46 - Digital Payments & CBDCs in Kenya
28:55 - Ad Break: Expat Money & New Totalitarian Order
31:02 - Bitcoin Adoption & Regulation in Kenya, Surveillance & KYC
33:58 - True Financial Empowerment
34:58 - Women As Bitcoin Developers - Tando’s Case Study
38:48 - Circular Economies in Africa
42:48 - HODLing vs. Using Bitcoin for Payments
47:58 - Recognition in Lorraine’s & Dada’s Impact
51:10 - How to Support Bitcoin Dada & Dada Devs
My guest today is Carol Souza, co-founder of Area Bitcoin, one of the largest Bitcoin education platforms in Latin America, reaching hundreds of thousands across Brazil and the Portuguese-speaking world. Her path began not in tech or finance, but as a dentist, where Brazil’s inflation, POS payment fees, and daily operational fragilities pushed her to study money and ultimately adopt Bitcoin as a survival tool for her clinic. We discuss Brazil’s long history of hyperinflation, savings confiscation, and the deep fiat mindset that still shapes economic life. Carol explains how PIX, open banking, and the proposed Drex CBDC form a sophisticated financial-surveillance architecture, and why she sees Bitcoin as a sovereignty instrument rather than a speculative asset.
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00:00 - Coming Up
01:42 - Intro To Carol Souza: Bitcoin Advocate
03:40 - Carol's Journey to Bitcoin
07:00 - Bitcoin & Broken Money in Brazil
11:15 - Ad Break
12:40 - Outcomes of Bitcoin Education
13:50 - Challenges of Accepting Solutions Like Bitcoin
18:30 - Is Digitalization a Barrier?
21:20 - Crypto vs. Bitcoin
23:20 - Brazil's CBDC - Pix & Drex
26:55 - Ad Break
29:05 - CBDC in Brazil Contd.
31:30 - Big Tech Censorship & Surveillance
34:00 - Bitcoin Education and Activism
37:00 - Open Source Education, AI & Vibe Coding
45:00 - Designers & Developers Training in Bitcoin
47:00 - Teaching Complex Bitcoin Concepts
48:40 - The Future of Bitcoin Education
My guest today is Jeff G, privacy advocate and builder of censorship-resistant communication systems using Nostr and open cryptographic infrastructure. Jeff works on White Noise, a decentralized encrypted messaging project designed to remove single points of failure from private communication. We explore how the internet was built without native money and how that mistake created a surveillance economy where users became the product. We break down why “nothing to hide” is a psychological trap, how self-sovereign digital identity works through public-private key pairs, and why portable social graphs threaten centralized platform control. We also cover the global push for digital ID and CBDCs, the structural weakness of centralized messengers like Signal, and why real freedom now depends on rebuilding parallel, permissionless systems instead of trying to fix broken institutions.
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00:00 - Coming Up
01:09 - Introduction & Meet Jeff: Privacy Advocate and Tech Innovator
03:30 - Personal Responsibility, Privacy Online, and History of Internet Payments
06:20 - Misconceptions About Privacy
08:30 - The Future of Digital Identity and Decentralization
09:15 - Ad Break
12:00 - CBDCs & Digital IDs - Excessive Control
13:05 - Nostr: Revolutionizing Digital Identity
20:19 - White Noise: Revolutionizing Secure Communication
22:12 - Quick Fire Questions
27:10 - Final Thoughts & Call to Action
My guest today is Joe Bryan, tech entrepreneur & former Goldman Sachs derivatives trader turned Bitcoin educator and creator of the viral film What’s the Problem. After a decade building tech businesses, Joe set out to craft a story that explains why the world needs Bitcoin. His film, now translated into more than 40 languages, uses Pixar-style storytelling to reveal how the fiat system quietly steals from everyone and why separating money from the state is essential. We discuss the compounding creep of digital control, the rise of digital IDs and CBDCs, Bitcoin’s evolution into “perfect money,” and Joe’s mission to help the world see and resist the problem before it’s too late.
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-- LINKS –
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Joe’s Film “What's The Problem?” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtFOxNbmD38
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:30 - Intro to Joe & The Viral Video “What’s The Problem”
07:35 - The Problem With The Fiat System
10:45 - UK’s Digital IDs & State of Control
14:30 - Ad Break: Trezor, BitVault & Abundant Mines
17:10 - Tradeoffs Between Security & Sovereignty in The Digital Identity Era
20:40 - Can Bitcoin Be Scaled & Mass Adopted?
22:30 - Joe’s Visit At The Swedish Parliament
25:50 - Rapid Fireside Questions & Closing Thoughts
My guest today is Samuel Kullmann, a Member of Parliament from Switzerland’s Canton Bern, entrepreneur, and one of Europe’s first openly pro-Bitcoin politicians. His journey began in 2015 when the Swiss National Bank dropped its euro peg, pushing him to study money, move from gold to Bitcoin, and embrace hard-money principles. We discuss how Switzerland’s decentralized system — shared executive power, binding referendums, and a constitutional “debt brake” — aligns with Bitcoin’s ethos. Samuel details his opposition to Switzerland’s new digital ID law, warning of normalization and future linkage with CBDCs.
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-- LINKS –
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up…
01:30 - Introduction to Samuel: Swiss Politician & Bitcoin Advocate
03:50 - Bitcoin Advocacy
06:40 - Politicians in Bitcoin Generally, and Specifically in Switzerland
08:55 - Separating Money & State in Switzerland
10:31 - Swiss Referendum System & Direct Democracy
16:44 - Digital ID in Switzerland
22:58 - Concerns About Digital ID Linked to CBDCs
28:11 - Short Questions & Closing Remarks
In this interview with Viva Frei I talk about my path from freedom activism to Bitcoin. I was born in Israel in 1980 to a family of Holocaust survivors and builders of the early state. During COVID I watched Israel impose coercive measures like the Green Pass and saw a sign that said “Reserved for vaccinated only.” It reminded me of my grandfather’s stories from pre-war Europe and pushed me to protest. That experience made me study freedom more deeply, especially in money. I learned how fiat, inflation and fractional-reserve banking rob people, then discovered Bitcoin as sound money with fixed supply and no central control. I explain how it differs from crypto and from CBDCs, and why self-custody is the foundation of sovereignty. For me Bitcoin is not just money, it is a stand for human freedom.
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-- LINKS –
This interview on Viva’s Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/v70qdei-live-from-lugano-plan-b-in-switzerland-w-efrat-fenigson-and-prince-filip-ka.html
Viva on Rumble: https://www.youtube.com/@VivaFrei
Viva on YouTube: https://rumble.com/user/vivafrei?e9s=src_v1_cbl
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-- CHAPTERS –
0:00 - Coming Up…
01:34 - Efrat’s Background and Family History
05:31 - Protesting Covid’s Green Pass in Israel
08:26 - Efrat’s Intro to Bitcoin & Gold
11:26 - Fiat Money, Inflation & Sounds Money
20:09 - Major Difference Between Crypto & Bitcoin
22:49 - Bitcoin’s Decentralization & Satoshi’s Story
24:49 - CBDCs vs. Bitcoin
28:19 - Future of Bitcoin & Potential Risks
33:19 - Conclusion
My guest today is Nick Anthony, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute, a fellow at HRF, and one of the clearest voices dissecting CBDCs, financial privacy, and government overreach. He authored the book “digital currency or digital control?” and advocates for freedom and privacy. In this episode, we explore how governments use propaganda to sell CBDCs as “digital cash,” despite public resistance, and how pilots in China and The Bahamas reveal low adoption and rising coercion. Nick explains why control is a universal temptation across democracies and autocracies, and how the Bank Secrecy Act created 55 years of normalized financial monitoring in the United States. We discuss the distinction between stablecoins and CBDCs, the slow global rollout of digital currencies, and why Bitcoin’s censorship resistance remains essential, alongside other freedom tech tools. He also shares insights from his work maintaining HRF’s CBDC Tracker, his visit to the European Parliament, and his warning that even if CBDCs fail, today’s financial system already operates as a surveillance regime.
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HRF’s CBDC Tracker: https://cbdctracker.hrf.org/home
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up…
01:39 - Meet Nick Anthony: Policy Analyst & CBDC Critic
03:03 - What Problems CBDC Pretends to Solve?
04:48 - CBDCs: Problems and Propaganda
08:03 - Real-World Examples: China & The Bahamas
13:59 - Ad Break: Trezor, BitVault & Abundant Mines
16:39 - Stablecoins vs. CBDCs: A Critical Comparison
21:56 - The Future of CBDCs, And Bitcoin's Role
24:13 - Financial Privacy, Bitcoin and Cash
31:54 - Message to CBDC Legislators
33:08 - Nick’s Visit to the EU Parliament
35:08 - How To Explain Why We Need An Exit
36:53 - Wholesale vs. Retail CBDCs
My guest today is Diana, she is the co-founder of Bitcoin House Bali and organizer of the Bitcoin Indonesia Conference. She left a corporate life in Germany in 2022, sold her belongings for Bitcoin, moved to Bali, and began rebuilding local Bitcoin adoption through practical education and community infrastructure. In this episode, we look at the realities in Indonesia: bank accounts closed after short inactivity, constant transaction monitoring, restrictions on moving money across islands, and limited financial agency for women. Bitcoin offers sovereignty in that environment. We discuss the role of women in integrating Bitcoin socially, the expansion to 38 meetups across Indonesia, and the aim of decentralizing leadership. We also cover lessons from running a national conference under bureaucratic pressure, and what it means to work in a place where censorship and instability are already visible.
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-- LINKS –
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Bitcoin House Bali Twitter: https://x.com/btchousebali
Bitcoin Indonesia Website: https://bitcoinindonesia.xyz/
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up…
01:10 - Introduction to Diana
03:40 - Starting Bitcoin House Bali
10:10 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
11:34 - How Diana Educates Locals
14:14 - How Bitcoin Helps Protect People & Human Rights
20:00 - Encourage Women to Join Bitcoin
25:29 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
27:42 - Lessons from Organizing a Conference
32:00 - Future Vision for Bitcoin in Indonesia
36:00 - Personal Lessons From Diana’s Journey
39:20 - Efrat on the Changing Financial System
41:20 - Quickfire Questions & Closing Thoughts
My guest today is Alan Miller, co-founder of the Together Association, a nationwide civil-liberties movement ensuring the public—not technocrats—remain at the heart of politics. Alan’s career spans four decades of creative and civic entrepreneurship: from pioneering acid-house parties and co-creating London’s cultural hub The Old Truman Brewery, to co-founding the Night-Time Industries Association and leading the #OpenForAll campaign during lockdowns. In this conversation, we discuss UK’s policy on free speech, protest rights, Digital ID, Net Zero, Low-Traffic Neighbourhoods, and more. We examine how COVID-era controls became a template for centralization, why free speech and privacy form the core of democratic accountability, and how technology can either entrench surveillance or empower autonomy through open protocols like Nostr and Bitcoin. Alan makes the case for an active citizenry, analog-digital parity of rights, and a future where liberty is defended not by elites, but by the public itself.
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Alan's Twitter: https://x.com/alanvibe
Open letter petition: https://together.eaction.org.uk/directors
All Digital ID related activities: https://togetherdeclaration.org/campaigns/no-to-digital-id/
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:38 - Alan Miller's Background
03:11 - The Impact of COVID-19 on Social Life
05:40 - Vaccine Passports The History of ID’s
12:09 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
13:31 - UK: Current Status & Digital ID Concerns
19:30 - Global Technocratic Influences22:15 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
24:27 - The Risks of Digital ID & Centralized Systems
35:00 - Public Resistance
37:40 - Freedom Tech Innovations: Nostr & Bitcoin
44:00 - 12K Arrests in UK for “Non-Crime Hate Incidents”
55:00 - Actions You Can Take & Upcoming Events
1:04:00 - Finding Hope in Collective Action
My guest today is Richard Byworth, Managing Partner at Syz Capital, bridging traditional finance with Bitcoin. With over 25 years in global investment banking and asset management, Richard now spearheads Syz’s $300m digital asset strategies and hosts the *Syz the Future* podcast. He’s also a Board Member at Relai, and an advisor to JAN3. In this conversation, he unpacks the moment the 2008 crisis revealed the flaws in fiat money, his early dismissal of Bitcoin, and how conviction finally took hold in 2018. We discuss the launch of Syz’s Bitcoin-denominated fund, the internal resistance it faced, and how it became the firm’s most successful product launch. Richard explains why “one Bitcoin equals one Bitcoin” and why he believes Bitcoin treasury companies act as the release valve for a mispriced financial system. We explore his views on ego in finance, intuition in decision-making, spiritual dimensions of Bitcoin, and his conviction that Bitcoin represents not just an investment—but hope, and a benevolent force for human progress.
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Richard’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardbyworth/
Syz’s Website: https://www.syzcapital.com/en
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:32 - Episode 100 Milestone & Intro to Richard
05:05 - Realizing the Money System is Broken
09:56 - Ego in Traditional Finance
13:03 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
14:24 - Ego & Learning in Finance
16:51 - Intuition vs. Rational Analysis in Career Decisions
20:58 - Launching a Bitcoin Denominated Fund
29:36 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
31:50 - Bitcoin Treasury Companies & Financial System Mispricing
41:58 - How Richard Sees Bitcoin & Defunding Fiat
47:18 - Bitcoin Allocation & Adoption Growth
51:48 - What Matters In Life - Personal Growth, Empathy, Introspecting
56:28 - Who Is a Great Manager
59:18 - Bitcoin as a Spiritual Tool
1:02:08 - Rapid Fire Questions
My guest today is Knut Svanholm, author, educator, and philosopher focused on Bitcoin. Drawing on ethics, praxeology, and monetary history, Knut argues that sound money reduces conflict by aligning human action with natural law and voluntary exchange. In this episode, he explains why fiat banking already functions like a CBDC system in practice, why cash preserves privacy but not liberty, and why real freedom requires self custody and non-KYC Bitcoin. We explore his critique of custodial “paper Bitcoin,” the case for non-custodial adoption over treasury companies, and his view of Bitcoin as intellectual armor that raises the cost of violence. Knut outlines a practical path away from banks, explains why stablecoins can be a bridge yet remain fiat, and why a low-time-preference culture of quality over quantity matters.
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Knut’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm
Knut’s Nostr: https://primal.net/knutKnut’s Website (10% off with code EFRAT): https://www.bitcoininfinity.com/
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:23 - Introduction to Knut
03:40 - Current Affairs: Stablecoins & CBDCs
06:55 - Cash & Fiat vs. Bitcoin
08:20 - Ethics of Money, Natural Law, First Principles
10:00 - Conflict Resolution via Violence Or Communications
13:12 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
15:30 - Bitcoin as Intellectual Armor
20:30 - Knut’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies
23:11 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
27:39 - Mass Adoption & Future Outlook
29:46 - Transitioning to a Bitcoin-Only Reality
34:44 - The Psychological Manipulation of Obedience
39:05 - Hope & the Shawshank Redemption Metaphor
42:43 - Bitcoin as a Tool for Human Freedom & Hope
48:12 - Closing Thoughts & Acknowledgements
My guest today is Max Kei, former private banker and founder of Debifi, the world’s largest non-custodial Bitcoin-backed lending platform for institutions. With over a decade in private banking and deep experience building peer-to-peer Bitcoin infrastructure at Hodl Hodl and launching the Baltic Honeybadger conference, Max has become a leading voice on how Bitcoin will reshape global finance. In this episode, he explains why banks will adapt to Bitcoin rather than be destroyed by it, how Switzerland is quietly becoming the prototype for Bitcoin-banking integration, and why non-custodial finance is essential to prevent the next FTX-style collapse. We explore the tradeoffs between custodial and non-custodial systems, the security advantages of three-of-four multisig for institutional loans, and why stablecoins act as both a lifeline in emerging markets and a gateway to a full Bitcoin standard.
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:20 - Introduction to Max Kai: Bitcoin Pioneer
04:50 - Baltic Honey Badger Conference Origins
10:27 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
11:50 - Bitcoin’s Community Ethos, Mission & Conferences
19:00 - Max’ Intro to Bitcoin Through A Client
20:50 - Gradually Moving From Fiat To Bitcoin
30:40 - When Will Banking Join Bitcoin?
32:53 - Switzerland's Role in Bitcoin Banking
38:03 - Rehypothication, Non-Custodial, Multisig Solutions
42:01 - Flexible Lending Platforms & Security Measures
56:13 - Max’s Take On Stablecoins: A Bridge to Bitcoin
1:08:18 - Max Motivations, Aspiration & Hope
My guest today is Allen Farrington, writer, investor, and co-founder of Axiom, a Bitcoin-focused venture capital firm backing companies that use Bitcoin as real infrastructure rather than speculation. Allen co-authored “Bitcoin is Venice” and “Only the Strong Survive” and draws on a background in math, philosophy, Austrian economics, and long-term equity investing to explain why Bitcoin is both a technological breakthrough and a venture opportunity hiding in plain sight. In this episode, he shares why he believes the most valuable startups will use Bitcoin as invisible plumbing for payments, energy, and financial services rather than marketing themselves as “Bitcoin companies.” We explore why current stablecoin systems break under real demand, how Lightning and Taproot Assets enable issuer competition and scalable payments, and why the long arc ends with e-cash and Bitcoin-native money. Allen frames Axiom’s edge as “temporal arbitrage”: investing early where technical understanding and adoption are low, anticipating that in a decade the market will recognize the value created by Bitcoin-based infrastructure.
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00:00 - Coming Up
01:12 - Introduction to Allen
03:20 - Discovering Bitcoin & Career Trajectory
12:03 - Ad Break - Trezor & BitVault
15:22 - Investment Philosophy & Lightning as Inspiration
17:52 - Company and Investment Selection for Axiom VC
30:12 - Stablecoins & Regulations
37:32 - Why Most Stablecoin Systems Fail At Scale?
44:50 - The Importance of Stablecoin Issuers
51:16 - Stablecoins on Lightning & Taproot Assets: A New Approach
1:01:23 - The Future of Digital Money: E-Cash
1:05:47 - Steps to Migrate From Fiat To Bitcoin
1:10:28 - Companies to Watch in the Bitcoin & Lightning Space
1:16:43 - Allen Loves What He Does & Why He Does It
My guest today is Max Hillebrand, praxeologist, cypherpunk, and open-source advocate dedicated to building freedom tech that empowers individuals through economic and technological sovereignty. As a contributor to projects like Bitcoin Core, Wasabi Wallet, BTCPay Server, JoinMarket, Lightning Network, Bisq, Angor, White Noise, and Amethyst. In this episode, Max shares his journey from Austrian economics into Bitcoin privacy, recounting how tools like CoinJoins, Wasabi, and the Taproot upgrade push Bitcoin closer to true anonymity. We explore the battle between fiat and freedom, the broken incentives of inflation and war, and why opting into Bitcoin is both a moral imperative and a form of resistance. Max also introduces Nostr as the communications layer for a censorship-resistant future, explains the axioms of human action, argumentation ethics, and resistance, and highlights why he believes we now have the technological weapons to end modern financial slavery in our lifetime.
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 – Coming Up
01:23 – Intro to Max
05:56 – Max Passion for Austrian Economics
06:56 – Bitcoin: Bridging Economics with Computer Science
11:16 – Building Freedom Tech
14:16 – CoinJoin and Bitcoin Privacy
18:56 – Legal & Regulatory Challenges for Privacy Tech – Samurai, Tornado, Wasabi Wallet
26:36 – Why Is Privacy Important?
29:06 – Economics of Wars & The Broken Window Fallacy
41:23 – The Value of Cash and Fiat Currency
45:38 – Moving to a Bitcoin Standard & Influence on Businesses
50:03 – Max’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies
52:03 – Nostr & Decentralized Protocols
1:00:03 – “White Noise” - Building Nostr Private Encrypted Messaging
1:04:48 – Austrian Economics Axioms: Human Action, Argumentation, Resistance
1:13:10 – Max’s Book Recommendations & Reasons to Stay Hopeful