We’re back around the table and straight into the question every Kiwi is wrestling with - what’s actually happening to the All Blacks, and are we being honest about how deep this rut really goes? Martin, John Day and Mark 'Watto' Watson pull apart the England loss, the messy patterns we keep repeating, and whether any of the numbers we’re being fed match what we’re all seeing on the field. We look hard at the coaching setup, accountability inside the camp, and that line from Razor about coaches “learning on the job”. John argues the turnaround is still possible if the right tweaks are made. Watto says the whole thing needs a reset and New Zealand Rugby won’t make the tough calls. Martin pushes on the lack of connection with fans and whether anyone is telling the truth behind closed doors. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A few days have passed since Twickenham, but the questions are not going away. So we turn to one of the sharpest rugby minds in the country - Murray Mexted joins us on DSPN to break down exactly why England were able to take control of that second half, and why the All Blacks are struggling to find any real rhythm. Mex gets into the numbers, the possession split, the defensive lapses, and what England did strategically that New Zealand could not answer. We talk locks, loose forwards, the bench selections, and why the All Blacks are still getting beaten late in games. Mex also raises concerns about coaching roles, too many voices, and whether some players are simply not in the right positions. We look ahead to Wales as well. Do you back the same group to respond, or is it time for targeted changes? Max is clear on what he thinks needs to happen. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let’s be honest. That loss to England hit differently. This week on DSPN we dig into it properly with Telegraph rugby writer Gavin Mairs, who joins us from the UK with a clear view on what is working for England and what is not working for the All Blacks. We talk through England’s tactical shift, their smart coaching additions, and why Steve Borthwick finally has a side that looks like it knows exactly what it wants to do. Then we flip the lens back on our own backyard. Why are we still seeing the same patterns after 12 tests? Where is the ruthless edge that used to define New Zealand rugby? What does it mean when Razor is openly saying some of his assistants are learning on the job? We also cover the Autumn Internationals, the Ireland-South Africa blockbuster, and the upcoming Nations Cup. Gavin gives a grounded northern perspective, and we try to figure out where the All Blacks go from here. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let’s be honest, that performance at Twickenham told us everything we already feared. Two years into this regime, 26 tests deep, and the All Blacks don’t just look stalled. In too many key areas, they’ve gone backwards. Today, Marty lays it all out with a bluntness the moment demands. He breaks down the muddled attack, the shaky leadership, the high-ball issues everyone in world rugby now targets, and the complete loss of direction once England wiped out that early 12-0 New Zealand lead. This wasn’t panic. This was clarity. If we’re halfway through a Rugby World Cup cycle and still look this unco, still repeating the same patterns, then something fundamental is off. Razor is a great bloke, but that doesn’t matter right now. The only thing that matters is whether this team is improving. And on current evidence, it isn’t. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When you ask a Northern Hemisphere rugby man what’s going on with the All Blacks, you know you’re going to get the unvarnished version. And Chris Jones delivers exactly that. England’s comeback at Twickenham wasn’t a one off to him. It was a pattern New Zealand keeps repeating, and he can’t believe we still haven’t learned how to close out a game. We talk through the recurring issues: losing momentum, basic skill errors, yellow cards, a forward pack going missing after halftime, and a coaching group Razor admits is still “learning on the job.” Chris can’t fathom that at this level. Neither can we. He also looks at leadership gaps, and why the All Blacks look anything but sure of themselves after 12 tests this year. From Argentina’s guts, to South Africa thriving with 14 men, to Wales’ struggles, he gives us the full Northern picture. Plus, Belgium are one win away from a Rugby World Cup. Yes, really. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let’s be honest, we’re all still feeling the sting of that England loss. Three defeats this year, and this one might be the most frustrating of the lot. So today we sat down with Tony Johnson, who’s been right in the middle of it all, calling the games and talking to the people who know what’s actually going on inside the All Blacks camp. We break down the moments that swung the match: missed kicks for touch, defensive lapses, the Codie Taylor yellow card, the domino effect of errors, and the injuries to Cam Roigard and Beauden Barrett. Tony spells out the five or six controllables that hurt us and why those flat patches keep haunting this team. We also look ahead. Cardiff looms, there are selection headaches everywhere, Jason Holland is leaving, and big questions remain about whether parts of this coaching group are still learning on the job. Tony doesn’t shy away from any of it. Plus, fair dues to England. Tony explains exactly how they got their tactics right and why the bench was the difference. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

England week always brings a bit of extra edge, and this one’s no different. We break down the All Blacks side named for Twickenham, the message it sends, and why this is not the week for experiments. Rieko Ioane’s future comes sharply into focus too. He’s been overtaken, shifted, reshuffled, and now not even making the bench with injuries around him. We talk honestly about where things have landed and whether Wales next week might be his last test. Then it’s a stacked mailbag. Grand Slam definitions, cricket grounds, Fabian Holland hype, the intercept rule blow-ups, the Kiwis league comeback, Samoan pride, Springboks dominance, a disgruntled fan named Foxy Yum Yum, and even a kudu steak that didn’t survive the dog. Plenty in here. Plenty to push back on. Plenty to agree with. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re staring down the biggest test of the Grand Slam tour, and Tony Johnson joins us from London with everything we need to know ahead of All Blacks v England at Twickenham. The selections are locked in, the locals are confident, and the bookies have England as favourites. Yep, favourites. Tony gives us a proper look at the key matchups: the loose forwards, the new midfield combo, and why England’s 6-2 split says everything about how they want to win this. We also dig into the aerial game, the kicking battle, and what Damien McKenzie’s super-sub form means for the jersey. There’s plenty about the mood on the ground too, from the All Blacks’ setup outside London to the realities of a massive, not-so-friendly Twickenham crowd. A big week, a big test, and a chance to keep the slam alive. Find every episode and discover your next favourite podcast on the rova app or rova.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greg Martin joins Marty on the DSPN for another BRILLIANTLY unfiltered chat about Aussie rugby chaos, cash conspiracies, and Christmas gravy. Between slagging off the Wallabies’ coaching circus, defending Paul Kelly as the 'voice of Australia', and reminiscing about when Australia could actually catch a high ball, Marto and Marty deliver pure gold. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Springboks speedster Breyton Paulse joins the podcast, for an uplifting chat full of energy and heart. Breyton chats with Marty about the unity and incredible culture behind South African rugby’s rise. He shares personal stories from his playing days, pays tribute to current captain Siya Kolisi’s leadership, and reveals how coach Rassie Erasmus and assistant Tony Brown have transformed the modern Boks. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Martin Devlin kicks things off by delivering a sermon, unpacking all the important details of the All Blacks vs England test at Twickenham. How damaging will it be for New Zealand if they lose? How much pressure could the coaching group be under? Then, Mark 'Watto' Watson and John Day join Marty for another installment of Rugby Roundtable, dissecting the All Blacks and other rugby topics. Watto says New Zealand still lacks a true 'statement performance' this year, while John slams poor discipline and soft defence for underwhelming results - for the most part - in 2025. All three agree England will define the season - win and the All Blacks are back, lose and the pressure on Razor explodes. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Murray Mexted joins Martin Devlin on the DSPN, for a lively rugby chat ahead of the All Blacks’ clash with England at Twickenham. Mex reckons the All Blacks must dominate possession to have any chance. He praises young lock Fabian Holland, warns about loose forward depth, and stresses mental strength after letting Scotland back into the contest last weekend. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

South African rugby journalist Brenden Nel joins Martin Devlin on the DSPN, to break down the Springboks’ brutal win over France and the growing gap between the Boks and everyone else. They talk red card controversy, Malcolm Marx’s dominance, Tony Brown’s influence on attack, and the team’s fearless next-gen talent pushing veterans aside. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Queensland Origin coach and Kiwi league legend Sir Graham Lowe joins Martin Devlin to rave about the Kiwis’ comeback win over Samoa, and the quality of the Pacific Championships. Lowie says the Kiwi side is stacked with genuine NRL-level talent, and praises Stacey Jones for creating belief, connection and clarity in just a few weeks. He highlights young gun Casey McLean as a future superstar and credits veteran Kieran Foran for steering the attack. Lowe argues the tournament proves a Pacific-based Origin concept is now undeniable. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sky Sport rugby commentator Tony Johnson joins the DSPN from London, chatting through the atmosphere and intensity of the All Blacks’ win over Scotland in Edinburgh. TJ talks about the energy in the stadium, the swings in momentum, and the big moments that ended up deciding things. There’s praise for certain players, a bit of honesty about discipline issues, and a look ahead to a huge clash at Twickenham against England. The Grand Slam is still on! Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First off on the DSPN, host Martin Devlin delivers a sermon reviewing the weekend of rugby, with a focus on South Africa's impressive 32-17 victory over France in Paris. How much better are the Springboks compared to the rest of the world? Then, Marty and young producer Lachlan Waugh present Glass Half Full, where they offer their optimism - or pessimism - about a variety of sports news, views and results. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join DSPN host Martin Devlin and young producer Lachlan Waugh, as they present post-match coverage of the All Blacks' 25-17 win over Scotland at Murrayfield. The pair also talk about the Springboks' impressive 32-17 victory vs France in Paris. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First off on the DSPN, Martin Devlin delivers a sermon on the MASSIVE weekend of sport ahead, which features the All Blacks playing Scotland and France hosting the Springboks. Then, Marty is joined by Young Producer Lachlan Waugh for another edition of Marty's Mailbag! Every week the boys work through comments from viewers and listeners on the YouTube, Spotify and social channels, and discuss/answer/applaud/criticise them as best they can. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sky Sport rugby commentator Tony Johnson is back on the DSPN with Martin Devlin, dialing in from Edinburgh ahead of this weekend's All Blacks vs Scotland rugby test at Murrayfield. TJ and Marty discuss the New Zealand team named and its key talking points, including Wallace Sititi starting at blindside flanker and the new midfield combination. They cover off Scotland's 23, the importance of first-five Finn Russell, and how they can exploit the ABs' weakness under the high ball. All that and much more! Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the DSPN, Martin Devlin chats with rugby writer Gregor Paul about everything swirling around the All Blacks right now. They talk through that messy red-card situation for Ireland in Chicago, why refereeing common sense seems to come and go, and how different competitions end up with completely different interpretations. Then, the focus shifts to the All Blacks themselves, with the Scotland test fast-approaching. Marty and Gregor talk new combinations, who’s stepping up, who might get another run, and much more. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for the DSPN website Instagram: @martindevlin_dspn TikTok: @martindevlin_dspn YouTube: @DevlinSportsPodcastNetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices