Episode 11: Burnout and When Your Work Starts Clashing with Your Values with Jess Marsh
What happens when the work you love starts pulling you away from the values that made you want to help in the first place?
In this conversation with Social Worker, Counsellor and Clinical Supervisor Jess Marsh, we explore what burnout really looks like, not just in your workload, but in your nervous system, values, and workplace culture.
Jess shares her own experiences of burnout (yes, more than one), the physical signs she missed, and what she’s learned about how values misalignment and organisational culture quietly feed exhaustion. We also talk about the pressure to “just be grateful,” and how reflective supervision can help you stay grounded and aligned, even in challenging systems.
And yes, this episode started because I was totally fan-girling over Jess’s Supervision Menu after buying myself a copy. Maybe I’m the only supervision nerd here … haha!
If this chat gets you reflecting on your wellbeing, go back to Episode 5 with Exercise Physiologist Nat Barbieri, where we talk about how movement and physical energy can support burnout prevention for helping professionals.
In this episode Jess and I chat about:
-How burnout can sneak up even when you “know the signs”
-What values misalignment really feels like in practice
-Why workplace culture matters more than good intentions
-The early-career trap of gratitude and over-giving
-How reflective supervision supports long-term wellbeing
Connect with Jess Marsh:
Grab a copy of Jess’ amazing Supervision Menu and Therapeutic Practice Menu.
Connect with Jazmin Pursell:
If you’re ready for supervision that supports your boundaries, wellbeing, and sustainable practice, you can:
Book supervision or Coaching with me
Send me a DM on Instagram if this episode has helped you shift your thinking around your wellbeing and what additional steps you can put in place to optimise this, I would love to hear from you.
New episodes of Not Another PD are released every Friday before work.
Subscribe so you don’t miss the next conversation for helping professionals who care so much about the work that they do, but don’t want to burn out while doing it.
Episode 10: Back Yourself: Imposter Syndrome, Supervision & Vicarious Trauma with Hannah Gordon
From “doing the bare minimum” to going all-in: how to trust your skills and protect your wellbeing.
This week on Not Another PD, I’m joined by Hannah Gordon, Accredited Mental Health Social Worker and founder of Nextdoor Counselling & Consultation.
Hannah supports adults feeling overwhelmed, uncertain, or stuck; provides specialist guidance for people living with dementia and their families; and offers strengths-based supervision for helping professionals.
She works in-person from Mornington/Frankston and via Telehealth Australia-wide.
We talk about:
- Backing yourself: why imposter syndrome is so common (even 20 years in) and what changed when Hannah went all in on private practice
- Supervision that actually helps: the difference between KPI/operational supervision and reflective external supervision, and why both matter
- Vicarious trauma: how “the trauma we didn’t ask for” builds slowly (disaster recovery insights, what to watch for)
- Boundaries that stick: Hannah’s end-of-day ritual (leave the laptop in the office!) and strategies to stop bringing work home
- Community & support: the power of group supervision, mentors, and data (how seeing her business metrics helped her believe her own progress)
Try this this week:
- Book/attend reflective supervision (not just operational check-ins).
- Create a shutdown routine: device off, door closed, bag left in the office.
- Write a one-page “I back myself” evidence list (wins, client feedback, progress graphs).
Connect with Hannah
Next Door Counselling & Consultation on Instagram
In person appointments with Hannah: Mornington & Frankston (plus Telehealth Australia-wide)
Connect with Hannah’s Business Manager (Paul)
Coaching and Supervision for mindset, boundaries, and sustainable practice as a helping professional.
Boundaries Masterclass (Part 1: Foundation Boundaries)
Episode 9: From People-Pleasing to Embodied Wellbeing with Steph De Niese
How movement, boundaries, and knowing your needs can change everything.
This week on Not Another PD, I’m joined by Steph De Niese, counsellor, psychotherapist, and dance/fitness instructor with over 15 years’ experience helping people connect body, mind, and spirit.
Steph shares how chronic people-pleasing led to a major health wake-up call in 2019, and how she now combines psychotherapy, dance, and fitness with lived experience to support her clients.
We dive into:
People-pleasing origins: why many of us learn to earn worth by over-giving
A health and wellbeing reset: the health scare that forced a full-life reframe
Needs vs. requests: how to name your needs (Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, including some practical prompts)
Movement & embodiment: what “flow” looks like mentally, emotionally, spiritually (not just the gym!)
Practice what you preach: why therapists must embody the tools they offer
Boundaries that stick: Steph’s non-negotiables, no work after 6pm and Sundays off, and how she decides what counts as work
Steph also joins me as an expert guest inside my Beyond the Caseload membership, where she contributes to the Physical Health & Energy module with her unique insights on movement and holistic wellbeing.
Connect with Steph
Instagram: @movementwithsteph
Website: movementwithsteph.com.au
Work with me
Coaching for mindset, boundaries, and sustainable practice and Supervision
Email: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
Instagram: @jazminpursell
Episode 8: Who Are You Without the Title? Identity Beyond Work
Do you over-identify with your professional role? Let’s talk about who you are outside the job title.
In Episode 7, we looked at three mindset shifts to get unstuck in your career. Today, we’re continuing this two-part career series with a focus on something I’m deeply passionate about: your identity beyond your professional title.
As helping professionals, it’s easy to get caught in the trap of defining ourselves solely by our work, but that can come at the cost of our wellbeing.
In this episode, I share my own story of realising I was leading with “I’m Jazmin, I’m a social worker” in social settings, and how that reflected an over-identification with my role.
We’ll explore:
The Always Worker: When work seeps into every corner of your life
The Storyteller: When shop talk dominates your social time The Title Holder: When your worth feels tied to your job title
These patterns are common, but they’re not the whole of who you are. Together, we’ll reframe what identity beyond work can look like, and why it matters.
I’d love to hear from you: do you resonate most with the Always Worker, the Storyteller, or the Title Holder? Send me a DM or email.
If you’re struggling with career mindset blocks, you can work with me one-on-one in coaching.
Or, if you want to focus on your wellbeing outside of work, join my Beyond the Caseload membership, we dedicate a whole module to Identity Beyond Work.
Contact: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
Instagram: @jazminpursell
Episode 7: Don’t Stay Stuck: Career Mindset Shifts to Move You Forward
Feeling stuck? These mindset shifts will help you turn self-doubt into progress.
Whether you’re moving from student to practitioner, applying for your first graduate role, or shifting into a new field of practice, mindset blocks can hold you back.
In this solo episode, I share my own story of navigating career transitions as a helping professional, plus the 3 mindset shifts that can help you move forward with confidence:
Transferable skills are real skills: why your previous job experience counts more than you think (even if it’s not in the helping profession you’re in now)
Rejection isn’t final: and why it’s rarely personal
Confidence grows in action: how to move forward even when self-doubt creeps in
If you’ve ever questioned your ability, felt stuck after rejection, or wondered how to back yourself in a career transition, this episode is for you.
I’d love to hear from you! Send me a DM or email to share your reflections after listening.
Contact me directly at: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
Send me a DM on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jazminpursell/
Episode 6: Stop Setting Goals That Don’t Fit: Values Matter with Tracey Lindsay
In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by counsellor and personal development coach Tracey Lindsay, who works with mums and women juggling too much, feeling stuck, or constantly putting everyone else first.
Through her guidance and her Ignite and Grow membership, Tracey helps women get clear on what matters to them and take practical steps toward meaningful change.
Together, we dive into:
-What it actually means to set values-aligned goals (and why this matters so much for helping professionals).
-Why goals can feel heavy or misaligned, and how to spot when this is happening.
-Tracey’s Reflect → Set → Refine framework for creating goals that stick.
-The biggest barriers helping professionals face with goal-setting, from perfectionism to people-pleasing.
-How clarifying your values can act as a GPS for your life and career.
-Tracey’s non-negotiable boundaries as a helping professional.
Tracey also gives us a sneak peek into her upcoming masterclass inside Beyond the Caseload, where she’ll walk members through her full framework in detail.
If you’ve ever felt like your goals pull you in a direction that clashes with what’s most important to you, this conversation will give you practical insight (and a little relief!).
Links and resources:
-Connect with Tracey on Instagram: @tracey_lindsay_
-Learn more about her Ignite and Grow membership: https://traceylindsay.com.au/igniteandgrow
-Beyond the Caseload members can access Tracey’s full masterclass on goal-setting inside the membership. If you’re not a member yet, you can join here: https://www.jazminpursell.com.au/membership
Let’s connect! I’d love to hear your thoughts on the podcast!
Send me your feedback or questions at contact@jazminpursell.com.au
Episode 5: Breaking the Sitting Cycle: Everyday Movement with Natalie Barbieri
In this episode of Not Another PD, I’m joined by my very first guest, Natalie Barbieri, Exercise Physiologist at MK Movement (and also my own EP!).
Natalie holds a Master of Clinical Exercise Physiology from Deakin University and has worked across private, community, and hospital settings with clients of all ages and backgrounds.
She’s passionate about improving exercise education and health literacy, especially for people who feel unfamiliar or hesitant about movement.
Together we talk about:
-What an exercise physiologist does and how they support clients.
-Why busy helping professionals struggle to fit movement into their days.
-The hidden impacts of sitting behind a desk or screen all day.
-Small, practical steps to start adding movement back into your routine.
-Why setting realistic, achievable goals around exercise is key.
-Natalie’s own non-negotiable boundary to keep work and life separate.
We also touch on perfectionism, habits, and why movement doesn’t need to be all or nothing. Natalie’s insights make exercise feel more approachable, even for the busiest of professionals.
Links & Resources:
-Learn more about MK Movement: www.mkmovement.com.au
-Email: admin@mkmovement.com.au
-Follow MK Movement on Instagram: @mkmovement_aep
If you’ve ever found yourself stuck behind a desk for hours and feeling it in your body and mind, this episode is packed with encouragement and practical ways to break the sitting cycle.
Episode 4: Thrive Boundaries: When Saying No Becomes Second Nature
After exploring Survive (Episode 2) and Sustain (Episode 3), today we reach the very top of my Boundaries Pyramid Framework: Thrive.
Thrive is the stage where boundaries stop feeling forced and start feeling automatic. It’s when you can confidently say no without overexplaining, protect your evenings and weekends without guilt, and model healthy boundaries not only for your colleagues and clients, but for your friends and family too.
In this episode, I’ll share:
What it looks like when you’re in Thrive (and how it feels different to Sustain)
Real-life examples from my practice that show the shift from discomfort → confidence
Why overexplaining is a red flag that your boundaries need attention
Tips for moving towards Thrive, including reflection, scripts, and values alignment
A reflection question to help you notice your own progress
Because Thrive isn’t about perfection. It’s about building confidence, consistency, and clarity, so your boundaries work for you, not against you.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Reflection prompt: What’s one boundary you’ve set recently that felt easier now than it used to? That’s a sign you’re moving closer to Thrive.
Episode 3: DMs, Burnout & Boundaries: My Wake-Up Call
We’ve all had those moments where our good intentions, wanting to be helpful, approachable, and generous with our time, end up draining us. In this episode of Not Another PD, I share the personal wake-up call that came from hours of answering DMs from early-career professionals (which I totally love working with I must add!)… and how it taught me the importance of Sustain Boundaries.
Sustain is the middle stage of my Boundaries Pyramid. It’s about creating rhythms and practices that protect your energy week after week, not just getting through the day. Without sustain boundaries, burnout creeps in fast.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
How my inbox turned into an unsustainable cycle of unpaid supervision
The difference between Survive and Sustain boundaries (and why both matter)
A simple script you can use when someone asks for more than you can give
A micro-challenge to help you practice one Sustain-level boundary this week
Because boundaries aren’t just about saying no, they’re about sustaining your career, your wellbeing, and your life outside of work.
Links mentioned in this episode:
If you try out the Sustain boundary challenge, let me know how it goes! Tag me on Instagram or LinkedIn, or share inside the Beyond the Caseload community if you're a current member or email me contact@jazminpursell.com.au if you're not on social media.
Episode 2: Survive: Building Your Foundational Boundaries
Ever found yourself saying yes when you should have said not today? In this episode, I share a story from early in my career where blurred lines between two workplaces left me doing double the workload, and burning myself out in the process.
This was the wake-up call that led me to create my Boundaries Pyramid:
Survive → your bare minimum, starting point boundaries
Sustain → boundaries that keep you steady over time
Thrive → boundaries embedded in all areas of your life
In today’s episode, we’re diving into Survive boundaries, the small, foundational practices that help you protect your time and energy.
You’ll hear:
✨ How people-pleasing and blurred boundaries tripped me up across multiple workplaces
✨ What survive boundaries actually look like in real life (think: logging off on time, taking proper breaks, and sticking to your workdays)
✨ Why blurred boundaries create resentment, and how to start untangling them
✨ A simple micro-challenge you can try this week to strengthen one boundary in your own life
Boundaries aren’t selfish, they’re the foundation that sustain us in the helping professions.
Links & Resources:
Grab your free Boundaries Checklist here → www.jazminpursell.com.au/free-boundaries-checklist
DM me on Instagram @jazminpursell or email me at contact@jazminpursell.com.au, I’d love to know where you see yourself in the Boundaries Pyramid right now.
And remember: boundaries are brave, and even the smallest steps count.
Episode 1: Why this Podcast is Different
If you’ve ever rolled your eyes at another “mandatory training” that left you feeling drained instead of inspired, this podcast is for you.
In this very first episode of Not Another PD, I’m sharing the story behind the podcast, why boundaries are at the heart of everything I do, and what you can expect from upcoming episodes. Think real conversations instead of boring trainings, and a focus on your wellbeing as a helping professional, not just the clients you support.
We’ll cover:
- Why I created this podcast as a fresh take on professional development for social workers, counsellors, and healthcare professionals
- How healthy boundaries are essential for preventing burnout and maintaining work-life balance
- A sneak peek at the first three episodes, including practical insights you can apply straight away
Freebie Resource:
Grab your free copy of The Helping Professional’s Work & Life Audit , a reflective ebook designed to help you take stock of your boundaries, balance, and wellbeing.
Download it here
https://www.jazminpursell.com.au/work-and-life-audit-lead-magnet
Let’s connect!
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Send me your feedback or questions at contact@jazminpursell.com.au
Until next time, say yes less.
EPISODE 12: The Return: Navigating Work After Maternity Leave
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
Episode 12 is the first of a four-part series called Career Crossroads. We're diving deep into career transitions that many working mums face. These topics come up all the time—whether with my coaching clients or chatting with friends and family. And I can’t wait to unpack them with you.
I’ll be sharing insights, lessons I’ve learned the hard way, and hopefully a few things that might make your own career transitions smoother.
Today’s focus: returning to work after maternity leave—an incredibly significant and sometimes daunting milestone.
Because this topic is so important, it actually deserves its own masterclass.
🎓 Masterclass Alert
I’ve created a masterclass you can register for—Reclaiming You: Redefining Your Career Identity After Motherhood.
Once registered, you’ll get the recording link (which doesn’t expire), plus a free Reflection Workbook to help you move through this transition with more clarity and confidence. You’ll find the link to register in the show notes.
So to recap, here are some of the key tips:
Work out your timing for returning—what’s right for you.
Put time-saving hacks in place before going back.
Get clear on your support network—paid and unpaid.
Talk logistics with your partner—don’t assume they know.
Reconnect with your workplace if possible, even before returning.
If this resonated with you, and you want to go deeper into redefining your career identity after motherhood, please register for my free masterclass. You’ll find the link in the show notes.
Thank you so much for listening to part one of the Career Crossroads mini series. I can’t wait to share the next episodes with you.
Let’s get into today’s episode.
✨ How we can keep this important conversation going:
Instagram: @jazminpursell
Facebook: @jazminpursellconsulting
Website: www.jazminpursell.com.au
Email: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
EPISODE 11: From Overwhelmed to Supported: What Pocket Money Taught Me About Delegating
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
In Episode 11 of Smart, Successful & Stressed Mums, we dive into the art of delegation at home — and how pocket money can help your kids step up (while giving you back some precious time). Jazmin shares her personal approach to household delegation, how it’s working with her daughters, and why pocket money isn’t just about cash — it’s about confidence, responsibility, and lifelong skills. 💸👧🏽👩👧
We explore:
Why mums often struggle to delegate at home
How to introduce pocket money fairly (without raising entitled kids!)
Jazmin’s non-negotiables when delegating to her daughters
Tips for deciding a pocket money amount that fits your family
👀 Whether you’re already on board or on the fence about pocket money, this one’s for you!
👉 DM Jazmin on Instagram @jazminpursell with your thoughts: How much pocket money is too much? What's fair? Let's talk!
EPISODE 10: The Meal Prep That Saved My Sanity: Time-Saving Hacks for Working Mums
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
Feeling like dinner time is the most stressful part of your day? In this episode of Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums, I’m sharing how meal prep (and freezer prep!) became one of the most powerful tools in my working mum toolbox.
I walk you through the chaos of my “pre-meal-prep” life, and the game-changing shift that helped me reclaim time, reduce stress, and show up more present for my family. I’ll also share practical tips and hacks you can use to simplify your weeknight meals — even if you’ve never meal prepped before.
Whether you’re managing food intolerances, working full-time, or just trying to juggle it all, this episode is packed with honest insights and helpful strategies you can implement right away.
✨ Mentioned:
My go-to dietitian: Bite Me Nutrition
Freezer faves and planning tips
Real talk about the emotional load of cooking and parenting
If this episode helped ease some of your weekday chaos, share it with another busy mum who needs a little relief. And if you have your own go-to freezer meals, message me on Instagram — I’d love to hear them!
✨ Let’s keep the conversation going:
Instagram: @jazminpursell
Facebook: @jazminpursellconsulting
Website: www.jazminpursell.com.au
Email: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
EPISODE 9: It Takes a Village: Finding Support (Even When You Think You Have None)
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
Who’s in your village—and how can you support someone else’s?
In this episode of Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums, Jazmin dives into the timeless saying “it takes a village to raise a child” and explores what that means in today’s busy, individualistic world. Sharing a personal story about parenting through illness, she opens up about a moment when she had to push past pride and ask another mum for help—and how that small act reminded her of the quiet power of community.
Jazmin also reflects on a formative experience from high school: a meal-drive program where families anonymously cooked for others going through tough times. It was an early lesson in compassion, showing how we can make a meaningful difference with something as simple as a home-cooked meal.
✨ In this episode, you’ll hear:
Why your “village” may not look traditional—but still exists
How to build a support network without extended family
Ideas for giving back and supporting others in quiet, practical ways
Why asking for help is a strength, not a weakness
Whether you feel alone or deeply connected, this episode will remind you that support is all around—and we can all be part of someone else’s village too.
💬 DM Jazmin or send her an email to share: Who’s in your village, and what does “it takes a village” mean to you?
✨ Let’s keep the conversation going:
Instagram: @jazminpursell
Facebook: @jazminpursellconsulting
Website: www.jazminpursell.com.au
Email: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
#jazminpursell #jazminpursellconsulting #workingmums #relatable #smartsuccessfulstressedpod
EPISODE 8: From Career Girl to Motherhood: My Story at 25🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
In this heartfelt solo episode, I’m taking you behind the scenes of my own journey to motherhood — becoming a mum at age 25, feeling disconnected from friends, and navigating the emotional and financial challenges that came with stepping away from a corporate career.
If you’re currently pregnant, on maternity leave, or thinking about how motherhood will impact your career and identity — this one is for you. I’m sharing how I moved through self-doubt, loneliness, and guilt, and how those early experiences shaped the work I do now to support other working mums.
You’ll hear:
I hope that by opening up, you'll feel seen, less alone, and more supported in your own motherhood journey.
✨ Let’s keep the conversation going:
Instagram: @jazminpursellFacebook: @jazminpursellconsultingWebsite: www.jazminpursell.com.au
Email: contact@jazminpursell.com.au
EPISODE 7: Do you have to be super organised to habit-stack?
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
Hi lovely professional mums — welcome back to Episode 7!
In this episode of Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums, I’m talking all about habit stacking — and how you can use it to make your health, wellbeing, and personal goals feel a whole lot more achievable.
I share how I introduced habit stacking into my own life during a major health overhaul, and how small, simple tweaks (like prepping my own snacks while preparing my daughters’ lunchboxes) made a huge difference to my energy and wellbeing.
You’ll hear some practical examples, like how you can add movement into your day without overhauling your whole schedule — and why even if you don't think you’re "a structured person," you already have routines that you can build on.
If you've been feeling like it’s hard to make big changes with your already-packed schedule, this episode will show you how to work smarter, not harder — by using what’s already working for you.
Let me know if you try some habit stacking in your own life — I’d love to hear about it and cheer you on!
Connect with me over on YouTube and Instagram @jazminpursell or send me a DM or email at contact@jazminpursell.com.au
EPISODE 6: From Stressed to Aligned: 3 Questions to Discover Your Core Values
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums with Jazmin Pursell
Hi lovely professional mums — welcome back to Episode 6!
In this episode of Smart, Successful and Stressed Mums, I’m diving into a topic that can make a huge difference in how we show up in our lives: living in alignment with our values.
I share three powerful reflection questions to help you uncover what really matters to you — and why understanding your values can bring more clarity, joy, and motivation into both your personal and professional life.
You'll also hear a little about my own journey, how I identified my 3 core values (connection, empowerment, and family), and how living in alignment with them changed everything for me.
If you’ve been feeling a bit disconnected, stressed, or unsure what’s next — this episode is for you. I hope it helps you feel more grounded and inspired as you move forward.
Let me know what core values resonate with you after listening — I’d love to hear from you and cheer you on!
Connect with me over on Instagram @jazminpursell or send me a DM or an email at contact@jazminpursell.com.au
EPISODE 5: From Overwhelmed to On Track: Setting Goals That Actually Work
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed with Jazmin Pursell
Hi lovely professional mums — welcome back to Episode 5!
In this episode of Smart, Successful and Stressed, I’m talking about goal setting—specifically how professional mums like us can go from feeling completely overwhelmed to actually making progress on the things that matter most.
I share the three main types of goals I see come up time and time again: health, emotional wellbeing, and career. I also explain why stacking too many goals on your plate at once can leave you feeling stuck (or like you’re failing at everything), and what I’ve learned about choosing realistic, doable goals instead.
If you’ve ever felt like you're trying to do all the things and not quite getting anywhere—this one’s for you. I hope it inspires you to focus on what really counts right now.
Let me know what goals you're working on—I’d love to cheer you on.
EPISODE 4: When Comparison Steals Your Confidence (and Why I Stuck with Zumba Anyway)
🎧 Smart, Successful and Stressed with Jazmin Pursell
Hi lovely professional mums — welcome back to Episode 4!
In this episode, I’m sharing a very real (and a little funny) story from my very first Zumba class.
Spoiler: I was way out of my comfort zone and almost didn’t go back. I’ll be talking all about comparison — how it creeps in when we’re doing something new, how it holds us back, and how we can reframe it to help us grow.
Whether it’s in your professional life, motherhood, or just trying something new like Zumba, comparison can make you feel like you’re not good enough. But I’m here to tell you that you don’t need to be perfect to keep showing up.
🎥 This episode is also available in video format on my YouTube channel if you’d like to watch and chat along more interactively.
If this resonates with you, I’d love to hear from you — DM me and let me know where comparison has popped up in your life, and how you’ve moved through it.
Thanks so much for listening! 💛