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Now We Know
Donna Polk and Jonathan Stokes
60 episodes
19 hours ago
Now We Know focuses on learning and relearning black history in a fun yet educational way with hosts Donna and Jonathan. Together, they unpack and repack our history from the lens of two people simply trying to figure it out themselves. What didn’t we learn? What do we want to know? Let’s delve into it all!
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Now We Know focuses on learning and relearning black history in a fun yet educational way with hosts Donna and Jonathan. Together, they unpack and repack our history from the lens of two people simply trying to figure it out themselves. What didn’t we learn? What do we want to know? Let’s delve into it all!
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Now We Know
The Making of a New Year's Eve Holiday Tradition: Watch Night

As it turns out, Watch Night has been incorporated into the traditions of more households than knew what to contribute the celebration. From celebratory and luck-ridden feasts to ceremonious gatherings; listen to learn more about how Watch Night came about and let us know what traditions you knew or now know were part of the same.


Resources:

https://www.pbs.org/video/journey-proud-freedoms-eve/

https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/historical-legacy-watch-night

https://youtu.be/NtZeR-rfGVs

https://youtu.be/IqRenSaCGUI


#newyearseve #nye #holiday

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2 weeks ago
28 minutes 27 seconds

Now We Know
Senate Candidate Dakarai Larriett & The Alabama Solution

Dakarai Larriett shares about his erroneous arrest in Michigan that ultimately lead him to running for Alabama Senate in the 2026 race. With pillars of his candidacy rooted in education, 2nd amendment rights, healthcare and more, Dakarai shares his plan to win the state largely held by Republicans.

Throughout the conversation, Donna & Jonathan reference a documentary called The Alabama Solution that takes us into one of the deadliest prison systems. Dakarai explains the connection of the important pieces, like education, that can help mitigate the outcomes we see today.


Bio

Dakarai Larriett, an Alabama native and the son of a U.S. Army veteran and a public school teacher, is a thriving entrepreneur and committed community volunteer. His candidacy for the U.S. Senate is driven by the injustice he faced from a false arrest in 2024. Growing up influenced by his father's military service, Dakarai moved between several states and even spent time in Germany. He excelled academically, earning a full scholarship to the University of Alabama, where his dedication to public service deepened during his junior year as an exchange student at Howard University. 
Dakarai has built a successful career as a corporate leader while also managing a pet-care business he launched from his garage. Over the past 20 years, he has served in leadership roles on multiple nonprofit boards, gaining a reputation for his servant leadership upon returning to Birmingham in 2021. Actively involved in various volunteer initiatives, he leads an HOA board in downtown Birmingham that represents local families and businesses, showcasing his passion for Alabama's culture and community. In his leisure time, Dakarai enjoys visiting the shooting range and regularly attends First United Methodist Church.

Resources/Links:

  • www.dakarailarriett.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/dakarailarriettforsenate/
  • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574763727908
  • https://www.tiktok.com/@dakarai.larriett
  • The Alabama Solution
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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes 32 seconds

Now We Know
The Transformative Magic of Style, How to Show Up as You and Not a Trend with Personal Wardrobe Stylist & Fashion Expert Laura Tully

On this episode, Donna & Jonathan dive into the real about fashion trends, vulnerability of what your style says about you, with guest Laura Tully - Personal Wardrobe Stylist & Fashion Expert.


This is one of those episodes that's best described by allowing it to speak for itself. However, we will say, owning your style starts with reflection of self and learning how you show up as your best self; based upon you, not a trend.


Laura Tully - Personal Wardrobe Stylist

https://www.lauratully.co/

Instagram:

@LauraTully.Co


Resources:

https://vestoj.com/dressed-up-and-laying-bare-2/#fn4-6449

A Black History of Style

https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/black-panther-party-uniform

Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen


#fashion #fashiontrends

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1 month ago
1 hour 18 minutes 45 seconds

Now We Know
Twerk Sumn, Shake Sumn

You didn't ask, but Donna & Jonathan delivered. Focusing on the popularity of dances and how each phenomenon has shaped culture was, undoubtedly, one of the most fun, light hearted episodes to date. What's your favorite dance move?


Sources:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6F003CE2A4B31581&si=fhdzU-phEK7rdGG2


https://youtu.be/CAkTaInCDzk


https://youtu.be/4G97kcPumh8


https://youtu.be/TPLK_Ei_7pI


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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2 months ago
51 minutes 24 seconds

Now We Know
Flint's Water Crisis, 11.5 Years Later

When we say we were floored that Flint, Michigan announced the conclusion of it's water criss in early-August 2025, that's an understatement. Reading this sent Donna & Jonathan into a wormhole of environmental racism from Flint to St. Louis to Louisiana and beyond. To the surprise of no one, the current administration isn't helping the cause because, you guessed it, DEI. How could that possibly be related? Want to take a guess?


Resources:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/03/us/flint-michigan-clean-water-crisis

https://youtu.be/aeMxN_f4c8w

https://youtu.be/Hs8l-e1YZ5g


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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3 months ago
39 minutes 10 seconds

Now We Know
Steps Toward Forever with Guest Kwame Terra, MPH

A riveting episode of Now We Know with first time guest, Kwame Terra, CEO of bEHR Health and world record holder of the most steps (over 2 million!) walked in 30 days . bEHR is a company that aims to place health at the core of black culture using health equity, best practices and the latest innovations in long time aging and longevity.


Donna & Jonathan dive into Kwame's expertise as he shares tips and tricks on what it really takes to live a long, healthy life; all the while building community along the way. Although he grew up and currently lives in the south, the mecca for great soul and seafood, Kwame's whole food and plant based diet is becoming less of anomaly. This episode is about the intersection of community, health, and overall wellness.


Resources

They're Trying to Kill Us

https://tubitv.com/movies/100015069/they-re-trying-to-kill-us

Black Health Disparities Go Back to Slavery

https://youtu.be/bz00gbEGfho


Beta App: Dacadoo

Use Access Code MBH

www.dacadoo.com

Instagram:

@bEHRHealth

@KwameTerra

@DonnaJaneen


#wellness #blackhealth #blackcommunity #plantbaseddiet #theyretryingtokillus

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5 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 54 seconds

Now We Know
Doing Our Part in Shaping the Nation

Someone has to take interest in educating and advocating for the next generation, Donna & Jonathan are no exception. Whether they be those in their immediate surroundings or a program they're supporting, they recognize the downfalls of the current administration and the effects it's having on systems and structures that, while faulty, were in place for a reason.

How can we help improve the lives of those around us; young or old, in big ways or in small ways? As a great prophet once said, may you leave someone better than you found them.


Resources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUWQ98YrBh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HplwzKtJDSE


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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5 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 6 seconds

Now We Know
Financial Boycotts, from Yesteryears and Today

The famously known Montgomery Bus Boycott was likely the pioneer of many of its kind to come. From Amazon to Target to Bud Light to many, many more in recent days; financial boycotts have taken storm. The effectiveness of boycotts depends on various factors; but, at the end of the day, our power also lies within how we spend our dollars.


Have you participated in a boycott of a company or establishment? Let us know which in the comments.


Resources:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dei-boycott-played-a-role-in-targets-q1-sales-slump-as-foot-traffic-declined-183135827.html

https://youtu.be/UVPifPRUd8Q

Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen


#target #boycott

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6 months ago
49 minutes 46 seconds

Now We Know
Hazing in Black Fraternities & Sororities with Guest Thomas Polk

For the first time in Now We Know's history, Donna & Jonathan have a two-peat guest: Thomas Polk.

In March 2023, Donna & Jonathan interviewed Thomas (who happens to be Donna's dad) about his affiliation with Alpha Phi Alpha, Fraternity Incorporated. This episode is a continuation of that telling as the origin story.

What prompted the discussion was the untimely passing of Caleb Wilson, a pledge of Omega Psi Phi, in Louisiana in February as a direct result of hazing. Hazing, a practice long withstanding time, has resulted in the tragic ending of too many young lives and negatively affected those around them.

Does the potential cost of entry outweigh the benefits? Listen for more.


Sources:

https://www.netflix.com/title/80097003

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2yd0el491o


Bonus Source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qT2RYDAuW4


Flashback Episode:

https://spotifycreators-web.app.link/e/SSjWDlPcySb


#burningsands #greeklife #fraternity #sorority #hazing

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8 months ago
56 minutes 17 seconds

Now We Know
Tuskegee Airmen and the Red Tails: Honoring the Legacy

On March 7, 1942, a pivotal moment in history occurred as the first Black pilots joined the U.S. Army Air Corps. At the height of World War II, these brave men, fighting for both freedom abroad and racial equality at home, displayed extraordinary courage, belief in the greater good, and unwavering determination. These qualities defined the 992 black pilots, including the 450 who served overseas.

Known as the Red Tails, they earned the respect of fellow servicemen through their valor, unmatched skills, and relentless dedication, both on the battlefield and beyond. While the fight for racial equality was no different on base, in the US or overseas, the Tuskegee Airmen charged forward. As we mark the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II and celebrate Tuskegee Airmen Day on March 7th, Donna & Jonathan honor their legacy and the profound impact they had on changing hearts and minds near and far.


Resources:

https://play.history.com/specials/tuskegee-airmen-legacy-of-courage/full-special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcpILi1Rxc

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74e175p40qo

Now You Know:

https://www.thewarandtreaty.com/


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen


#airforce #military #worldwar2 #tuskegee #tuskegeeairmen

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9 months ago
49 minutes 50 seconds

Now We Know
Good Burger, Home of the Good Burger, Can I Take Your Order? - Black Child Stars

"I'm Penny Proud, I'm Cute and I'm Loud, And I Got It Going on!"


Our commitment to ourselves, which subsequently is a commitment to you all listening, is to incorporate some lighter focuses on the show - bring the levity! We’re of course not going to stop doing the history dives, but we’ll aim to bring out the joy while recognizing and honoring the fight to get it.


This episode Donna & Jonathan highlight a few of their favorite childhood stars, relishing in the theme songs and nostalgia of the 90s and early 2000s.


What favorite shows or actors come to mind from these eras?


Resources:

https://girlsunited.essence.com/feedback/news/all-grown-up-your-favorite-black-child-stars-then-and-now/

https://www.history.com/news/black-tv-shows-culture

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0695497/?ref_=nmawd_ov

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0722647/?ref_=nmawd_ov

https://people.com/parents/all-about-kyla-pratt-kids/

https://one-on-one.fandom.com/wiki/Arnaz_Ballard

https://www.ebony.com/raven-symone-doesnt-like-black-names-forgot-her-name-is-raven-symone/#.VhkpM2bh_bo.twitter


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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10 months ago
58 minutes 42 seconds

Now We Know
Wicked, Meet Six Triple Eight

Call it a coincidence, call it kismet: the release of Wicked and Six Triple Eight. The true story of the first all women, all black army unit in 6888 and the fictional story of Wicked, the all green Wicked Witch of the West, coincided with the determination against the odds, the societal othering, and the plight of black women.


Listen along as Donna & Jonathan dissect the stories and uncover the additional messaging of heroism, colorism, and the portrayal of black women through film.


Did you see the correlation between the two stories? Were you inspired by any parts?


Resources:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Wicked

https://www.theroot.com/black-people-know-the-real-truth-about-glinda-and-elpha-1851715763

https://newsroom.woundedwarriorproject.org/The-Six-Triple-Eight-Proved-That-No-Role-Was-Too-Small-During-World-War-II

https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/12/20/the-inspiring-true-story-behind-netflixs-the-six-triple-eight/


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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11 months ago
58 minutes 59 seconds

Now We Know
The Heroism of Black Athletes: Olympic Games Berlin 1936

Less than 90 years ago, 18 Black American athletes defied the odds being the first black athletes to compete in the Olympic Games. Of all to be the first competition, they went to Berlin, Germany in 1936: a time riddled with the racist and anti-Semitic indoctrinations of Hitler.


We know black people have had to endure a lot in this country, come learn about the trials and tribulations they experienced here and abroad. Does this only scratch the surface? Yes. But the discussion of Donna & Jonathan continues to unveil the ugly underbelly of issues we continue to see in this country.


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen


Resources:

https://www.pbs.org/video/olympic-pride-american-prejudice-lx0WCn/

https://olympics.com/en/olympic-games/berlin-1936

https://www.ushmm.org/exhibition/olympics/?content=aa_athletes_medals&lang=en

https://freedomcenter.org/voice/reveal-stories-the-18-black-american-athletes-of-the-1936-olympic-games/

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/goebbels-olympics/#:~:text=With%20construction%20of%20an%20impressive,and%20called%20for%20a%20boycott.

https://www.ushmm.org/exhibition/olympics/?content=jewish_athletes_more

https://www.ushmm.org/exhibition/olympics/?content=aa_athletes&lang=en

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1 year ago
46 minutes 50 seconds

Now We Know
Songs of Protest

We can often turn to music for inspiration, a lyrical expression and auditory stimulation to help us through certain times. Donna & Jonathan felt it apt in the current time to dive into protest songs of years past through present.


Resource:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/4/12/14462948/protest-music-history-america-trump-beyonce-dylan-misty


Cameron Forbes - If I Was White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwnj3q-p4ho


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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1 year ago
1 hour 13 minutes 11 seconds

Now We Know
Spiteful Fright

The consideration of interracial marriage vs interracial sex comes down to one thing: property. Donna & Jonathan have discussed it before, and here they’ll discuss it in more depth; the intersectionalities of morality and laws and their consequences on simply getting to exist as a full person while black in America.


Resources:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/388/1/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QQRe2M96jw


Book to read:

White Fright The Sexual Panic at the Heart of America’s Racist History

https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jane-dailey/white-fright/9781541646544/?lens=basic-books#:~:text=In%20this%20urgent%20investigation%2C%20Dailey,War%20II%2C%20in%20the%20violent 


Instagram: 

@DonnaJaneen

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1 year ago
1 hour 4 minutes 21 seconds

Now We Know
Eartha, Eartha, Eartha!

Things are shaking up at the White House, more than we probably realized could be possible. What better time to discuss the icon that did so in a time we were scrutinized for every move; from the clothes we wore to the hue of our skin. Eartha Kitt was dynamic, inspirational and a game changer in many ways. We're so excited to share part of her life's journey with you all this month.


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen


Resources:

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/fotoware?id=B9A396B2898045E9%20972B31CEC8AF1CDB

https://www.britannica.com/art/theatrical-production/Means-of-artistic-control

https://youtu.be/uXIr6-HcocY?si=COs0bSnP1Gx2hNTD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECF0ZupS28


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1 year ago
54 minutes 1 second

Now We Know
Lowndes County and the Road to Black Power

Sometimes it feels resilience, tenacity and determination are not only overused adjectives but indicative of the struggle that persists today. Lowndes County is no exception to the immense effort and grit our ancestors displayed. When will we get to simply rest and just be?


To truly understand the depths and lengths people went to, watch the documentary and listen to the episode.


Resources:

https://www.multitudefilms.com/lowndes-county


Quips:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRKE6bLX/


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen


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1 year ago
55 minutes 49 seconds

Now We Know
On the Scale of WEB DuBois
A lively episode of Now We Know, after a brief break to reset! There's no better way to put it, as Jonathan said; on a scale of Booker T Washington to WEB DuBois, how bougie are you? Sources: https://video.alexanderstreet.com/watch/w-e-b-du-bois-a-biography-in-4-voices https://www.britannica.com/biography/W-E-B-Du-Bois https://www.britannica.com/topic/Talented-Tenth Now You Know: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/CDuqSxDhmKb https://www.thevillagepath.org/ Instagram: @DonnaJaneen
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1 year ago
53 minutes 25 seconds

Now We Know
From the Vault: The Triumphs of Black Music with Multi-Platinum Artist, Cameron Forbes

Sometimes, Donna & Jonathan need a vacation too. Re-sharing a popular episode from April 2023.


Music is instrumental, pun intended, for many of us in the Black Community - Donna & Jonathan are no exception. From childhood artistry to a now multi-platinum singer-songwriter, Cameron Forbes joins the Now We Know podcast for an episode on the joys, the struggles and the triumphs of building his music career in LA over the last decade. Cameron details how he remains true to himself in keeping the love for music and not becoming jaded in a world that wasn't created for the faint of heart.


How has the world of TikTok and plagiarism impacted the music industry? Are artists having greater control over their creations or will AI totally change the game? 

Instagram:

@CameronForbes

www.cameronforbes.com

EP - Back to Me

@DonnaJaneen


Sources:

⁠https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/celebrating-black-music-month#:~:text=The%20earliest%20form%20of%20black,defining%20the%20hardships%20of%20slavery⁠. 


⁠https://www.npr.org/2021/06/30/1011901555/radio-diaries-harry-pace-and-the-rise-and-fall-of-black-swan-records⁠ 


⁠https://soundbetter.com/profiles/21436-cameron-forbes⁠ 


#blackartistry #blackmusic

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1 year ago
54 minutes 14 seconds

Now We Know
For the Love of Ida B. Wells

Without trailblazers Iike Ida B. Wells; truly, where would we be? In a time when truth needed to be told more than ever, Ida fearlessly paved the way to help eradicate injustices.

Resources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML8XiKVStWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62eH6TNP72E

https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/ida-b-wells-barnett


Now You Know:

https://instituteforpr.org/pioneer-inez-kaiser/


Instagram:

@DonnaJaneen

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1 year ago
42 minutes 30 seconds

Now We Know
Now We Know focuses on learning and relearning black history in a fun yet educational way with hosts Donna and Jonathan. Together, they unpack and repack our history from the lens of two people simply trying to figure it out themselves. What didn’t we learn? What do we want to know? Let’s delve into it all!