Are you leading your business like a hero or an architect? We’re re-airing this powerful conversation between Natalie Nathanson and Bill Flynn, a seasoned growth advisor and business strategist with over 30 years of experience leading startups, driving company turnarounds, and coaching executives. Bill shares timeless lessons on what it really takes to lead through complexity, empower teams, and create sustainable growth in an unpredictable world. His insights are just as relevant today as when this episode first aired, offering a masterclass in modern leadership and resilience.
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In this special solo episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie steps back from the usual interview format to reflect on the year, what it taught leaders, what themes surfaced repeatedly, and what’s ahead. The episode invites listeners to slow down during the holiday season and consider the lessons they want to carry forward into the new year.
A Look Back: Lessons That Shaped This Year
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What does real growth look like when leaders reinvent themselves, rebuild systems, and rediscover purpose? This special Shift & Thrive compilation brings together unforgettable stories and lessons from some of the year’s most thoughtful leaders. Listen to our guests share insights about transforming AI’s evolution into human-like teammates and the profound clarity that comes from surviving a life-threatening disaster. Across technology, mindset, communication, and personal resilience, each guest offers a different lens on what it means to lead with intention. These stories remind us that progress isn’t just about scaling companies or refining strategy; it’s about identity, patience, preparation, and meaningful service.
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What happens when leaders discover that most barriers to transformation come from within their own systems rather than the people inside them? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie sits down with transformation strategist Marcia Daszko, whose work with CEOs, boards, and executive teams has shaped transformations across industries from Fortune 50 corporations to school districts and private companies on the brink of collapse. Marcia shares why meaningful transformation always begins with personal change, why leaders must embrace curiosity and courage, and why systems, not individuals, determine performance. She explains how clarity of aim creates alignment and why most companies sabotage themselves by clinging to old management habits. Together, Natalie and Marcia explore the stamina required to lead through uncertainty, the impact of fear on productivity, and the risks of layering new technologies like AI on top of broken processes
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Why do some leaders thrive in ambiguity, and how can you build that same capability across your organization? In this episode, Natalie sits down with Elizabeth Harz, CEO of Veriato, to explore what it really takes to lead through continuous transformation. Elizabeth’s career has spanned enterprise technology, digital media, gaming, edtech, and now insider-risk management and behavioral intelligence. Throughout each chapter, she’s built a repeatable yet flexible approach to change, grounded in curiosity, structured communication, and deep respect for leadership as a discipline. Together, Natalie and Elizabeth unpack the realities of guiding organizations through fast-moving environments, especially in a world where change no longer has a clear endpoint. They also discuss Veriato’s evolution, the shifting landscape of security, and the growing need for proactive, behavior-driven insight inside modern companies.
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What does it really take to build and evolve a go-to-market engine that drives sustainable growth in today’s environment? This week, we’re re-airing one of our most popular conversations from the Shift & Thrive Go-To-Market Miniseries: a deep dive with Scott Brown, Partner and Head of Platform & Go-To-Market at Cervin Ventures. It’s packed with practical insights for leaders rethinking how their teams generate and retain revenue in a changing market.
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What does it take to balance innovation with reality when AI moves faster than your market? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie Nathanson sits down with Yossi Carmon, CEO of Accelario, to unpack what it really means to lead through transformation in the age of AI. Drawing on his early startup lessons and his experience leading tech companies, Yossi explores how founders and CEOs can stay rooted in customer needs while effectively harnessing cutting-edge technology. He also shares how authenticity is redefining go-to-market strategies and reflects on the personal side of leadership.
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How can marketing leaders build go-to-market engines that evolve with today’s fast-changing buyer behaviors, while using AI intentionally, not accidentally, to drive meaningful transformation? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie sits down with Sajag Chikarsal, GTM Leader, advisor, and ex-Celona, Google, and Zscaler. His career spans every stage of company growth, from being the first marketing hire at Zscaler to leading global campaigns at Google Cloud. Sajag shares hard-won lessons on transforming go-to-market strategy, the role of AI as the new GTM operating system, and why foundational clarity still matters more than ever. He unpacks the frameworks that helped Google Cloud scale from $1B to $5B per quarter, explains how startups can practically implement AI, and reveals how marketing leaders can build teams ready for the next wave of transformation.
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What does it take to build a go-to-market motion that actually works today? In this special compilation of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson brings together insights from CEOs, founders, and marketing leaders who’ve learned that growth starts and ends with one thing: the customer. As markets evolve and AI-generated content floods every channel, connecting with buyers requires a deeper, more dynamic understanding of what really drives their decisions. You’ll hear how leaders are redefining customer-centric growth as they avoid tech-first messaging traps, strengthen alignment across teams, and rally their organizations around a shared view of the customer.
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What does it take to lead a company through transformation while keeping people motivated, curious, and focused on the future? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, Natalie sits down with Matt Waxman, Chief Product Officer at Arctera, a data management company reimagining how enterprises handle compliance, resilience, and lifecycle governance. From making people “comfortably uncomfortable” to creating a culture that embraces experimentation, Matt explores how leaders can align teams around a shared strategy, harness AI as an accelerator (not a replacement), and keep transformation human-centered.
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What can entrepreneurs learn from bootstrapping a startup, leading with empathy, and embracing the mindset of “Why not?” even when the odds are slim? In this episode, Natalie Nathanson sits down with serial entrepreneur Sanjay Manandhar, whose journey from Nepal to Massachusetts is filled with resilience, creativity, and servant leadership. Sanjay shares how bootstrapping shaped his approach to business, why every founder should learn sales, and how embracing the philosophy of “Why Not” can unlock opportunities that seem out of reach. From running Nepal’s first ISPs to founding AI-driven cybersecurity startup Zifino, his story is a masterclass in perseverance, empathy, and innovation.
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How can CEOs adapt their go-to-market strategy when the old playbooks no longer deliver results? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, Natalie Nathanson sits down with Stephen Ochs, Head of Marketing at Selector, to explore how startups can build smarter go-to-market engines in today’s market. Stephen shares his experience leading marketing and biz dev teams in SaaS companies from Series A through Series C, and why he believes influencer-driven community marketing and AI-powered operations are changing the game.
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How can executives harness AI without losing sight of strong business foundations? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, Natalie welcomes back Adi Klevit, Founder and CEO of Business Success Consulting Group. With more than 25 years of experience, Adi has been at the forefront of helping organizations build scalable systems and adapt to transformative technologies. She shares how process documentation lays the groundwork for effective AI adoption, what leaders must prioritize as they navigate change, and how she uses AI herself as a strategic thought partner.
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What does it take to disrupt an industry dominated by giants like Salesforce and HubSpot? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, I sit down with Adam Honig, founder and CEO of Spiro, to talk about his journey from building one of the largest Salesforce consulting firms to launching an AI-powered CRM that redefines how companies engage with customers. Adam shares how focusing on the manufacturing vertical transformed Spiro’s trajectory, why provocative positioning (“the anti-CRM”) works, and what leadership lessons he’s carried from scaling services businesses to SaaS.
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What does it take to lead massive business transformations in automation and robotics? On this episode of Shift and Thrive, Natalie sits down with Craig Ulrich, CEO of Acieta and a veteran leader in industrial automation with more than 30 years of experience. From scaling warehouse automation from a few million to $80M in revenue to guiding major transformations at companies like Amazon and General Motors, Craig has seen firsthand what it takes to succeed in high-stakes industries.
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How can leaders drive company transformation without losing their team’s trust and energy? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, Natalie Nathanson talks with Leslie Poston, a seasoned go-to-market strategist and leadership advisor. Leslie shares how she led Austin Data Labs’ transformation from a small, multi-industry SaaS company into a high-growth leader in food and agriculture, culminating in a successful acquisition. Leslie shares how she prioritized psychological safety, built a customer-first strategy, and kept teams agile while navigating rapid change. The conversation also dives into her current work helping leaders create high-performing, psychologically safe teams, and her perspectives on AI, burnout prevention, and building adaptability for the future.
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How can leaders balance automation and AI with the irreplaceable human elements of sales, culture, and leadership? In this episode, Natalie Nathanson sits down with Tameem Hourani, founder and CEO of RapDev, to explore his journey from a technologist to leading a rapidly growing tech services firm. Tameem opens up about the challenges of shifting from an engineering mindset to scaling a sales-driven organization, and why investing in people, not just automation, is critical for growth. Throughout the conversation, Tameem reflects on the personal growth required to lead boldly, the lessons learned from taking risks, and the importance of building a culture where transparency, accountability, and challenge fuel success.
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What does it take to turn a market gap into a thriving business? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, Natalie Nathanson sits down with Haseeb Budhani, co-founder and CEO of Rafay Systems, to explore how he’s navigated multiple startups, scaled innovative technology, and adapted to the evolving demands of AI and Kubernetes infrastructure. From his early entrepreneurial lessons to building high-impact partnerships with NVIDIA, Accenture, and Dell, Haseeb shares actionable strategies for founder-led sales, shrinking sales cycles, and enabling customers to succeed faster. Whether you’re a tech founder, sales leader, or business strategist, you’ll come away with insights you can apply immediately to accelerate growth and strengthen your go-to-market approach.
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How can leaders shift from being the hero who fixes problems to the architect who builds teams that thrive on their own? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, growth advisor and business strategist Bill Flynn joins host Natalie Nathanson to share hard-won lessons from decades of leadership experience. From embracing frameworks like EOS to turning around struggling companies and guiding CEOs through complex change, Bill offers a powerful case for mindset over skillset and explains why curiosity, humility, and strategic patience are the real keys to sustainable growth.
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How can businesses stay competitive in an AI-driven world? In this episode of Shift and Thrive, Cheryl Jordan-Aguilera joins host Natalie Nathanson to share lessons from her 25-year career in sales and strategy, highlighting the power of collaboration, cultural fit, and consultative selling. She reflects on building scalable growth at GutCheck, navigating M&A challenges, and leading at Official AI, where ethical AI use and internal alignment drive success.
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