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The Dave Gerhardt Show
Dave Gerhardt
317 episodes
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Conversations about marketing and business. Hosted by Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, Former CMO). If you work in marketing check out exitfive.com
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The Dave Gerhardt Show
What’s Working Right Now in B2B Marketing - Live from Drive 2025 with Sylvia LePoidevin, Trinity Nguyen, and Natalie Taylor

#306 Executive Insights | This episode was recorded live at our annual event, Drive 2025. I hosted Sylvia LePoidevin (CMO, Kandji), Trinity Nguyen (CMO, UserGems), and Natalie Taylor (Head of Marketing, Capsule) for a leadership panel breaking down what’s working in B2B marketing. They get into events that reliably create pipeline, outbound that still converts, media plays LLMs keep citing, and the tactics they’ve stopped running (like generic webinars that no one shows up for).

Want to come to Drive next year? Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro + Drive 2025 context
  • (03:46) - – Meet the speakers: Sylvia, Trinity, Natalie
  • (05:38) - – The one thing each leader refuses to give up
  • (05:49) - – How Capsule turns events into their #1 pipeline channel
  • (09:52) - – Why outbound still works (and how UserGems does it)
  • (14:45) - – How Kandji built a media property that LLMs actually cite
  • (19:11) - – Plays they stopped doing (blogs, generic content, virtual thought leadership)
  • (27:29) - – Playing offense: Shark Tank Day and GTM alignment
  • (32:53) - – Team wide alignment strategies that drive revenue

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 day ago
52 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
The Case for Influencer Marketing in B2B with Brianna Doe (Founder at Verbatim)

#305 Influencer Marketing | This episode is a live session from Drive 2025 with Brianna Doe, where she breaks down why influence is now shaping every step of the buying journey, how smart B2B brands are borrowing plays from B2C, and what it really takes to build a creator program that doesn’t flame out on day one. She gets into the messy reality of picking the right creators and measuring impact without deluding yourself with vanity numbers.

Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (03:22) - – Why Influence Drives Modern B2B Buying
  • (06:17) - – What B2B Can Steal From B2C Playbooks
  • (09:12) - – The Creator Engine Framework
  • (12:29) - – Picking the Right Creators (Without Getting Burned)
  • (15:47) - – Building Campaigns That Don’t Feel Like Ads
  • (19:02) - – How to Measure Real Impact (Not Vanity Metrics)
  • (23:38) - – Running a 90-Day Pilot That Actually Works
  • (26:23) - – Scaling From One-Off Posts to a Full Program

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
5 days ago
46 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
The B2B Buying Experience With AI: What Changes?

#304 | AI Buying Shift | This episode is from a recent Exit Five live session where I pulled together Lindsay O'Brien (Head of Marketing & Operations, Predictiv), Tom Wentworth (CMO, incident.io), and Aditya Vempaty (VP of Marketing, MoEngage) for a real talk on how AI is completely rewiring the B2B buying journey. We got into why buyers no longer need your pretty funnel, how AI-powered research changes the sales call, and what that means for your GTM strategy.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro + Dave Sets the Stage
  • (04:07) - – How AI Is Changing B2B Buying
  • (11:07) - – The Big Shift: Taste, Unscalable Work, and Distribution
  • (16:07) - – Getting Exec Buy-In for “Unmeasurable” Marketing
  • (20:07) - – Does the Funnel Still Matter?
  • (24:07) - – Dead Tactics: Gating, A/B Testing, Lead Score Theater
  • (30:53) - – AI That Actually Works (Real Use Cases)
  • (37:53) - – Team Size, Skills, and the New CMO
  • (43:53) - – Authenticity vs AI: Creative, Video, and Brand
  • (58:53) - – Content Attribution + Final Takeaways



Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 week ago
1 hour 4 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
The Day You Become a Better Storyteller with Harry Dry (Founder of Marketing Examples)

#303 Storytelling | This episode is from Drive 2025, our 2-day in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, VT. Harry Dry, creator of Marketing Examples and one of the best copywriters on the internet, shared a masterclass on storytelling, creativity, and writing marketing that actually connects—showing how to find great ideas, turn real stories into memorable campaigns, and make people feel something in the process.


Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro from Dave
  • (02:47) - – Harry’s background + Marketing Examples origin
  • (05:07) - – What makes good marketing storytelling
  • (08:27) - – How to find and collect great ideas
  • (12:52) - – The power of emotion in copy
  • (17:37) - – Why simple writing wins
  • (22:12) - – Turning real stories into campaigns
  • (29:08) - – The role of curiosity in great marketing
  • (33:53) - – How to write like you talk
  • (39:03) - – Examples of high-performing campaigns
  • (44:13) - – Q&A: writing habits, inspiration, and burnout

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 week ago
55 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
From Comms at Zoom to VP of Marketing at Neat, with Priscilla Barolo

#302 Growth | Dave is joined by Priscilla Barolo, former head of comms at Zoom (for nearly 10 years, including the pandemic) and current VP of Marketing at Neat, an Oslo-based video tech company. Neat’s tech is used around the world from major enterprises like Atlassian to the White House. With a decade-long career at Zoom, including during its hypergrowth through the pandemic, Priscilla is a master in communications and B2B marketing leadership.


Dave and Priscilla cover:

  • The path from communications to marketing leadership
  • Unique challenges of marketing a physical product in the B2B tech space
  • Building and scaling a global marketing team at a high-growth, remote-first company

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
2 weeks ago
47 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Why Marketing Is Back In The Driver Seat (with Maura Rivera, CMO at Qualified)

#310 Leadership & Strategy | I sat down with Maura Rivera, CMO at Qualified, to talk about what it’s like leading marketing at one company for six years (and why most of her team has been there just as long). We got into how product launches are the glue that hold their marketing together, what agentic marketing really means for the future, why outbound is actually working for them right now, and how events have become a huge part of their strategy. Plus, plenty of good banter along the way.

Watch this episode on YouTube on my channel: https://youtu.be/4tew-Q89Fms


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - — Intro & setup: Marketing’s back in the driver seat
  • (03:32) - — Work, life, and moving from Boston to Vermont
  • (07:07) - — Competitors, community, and the small-world CMO circle
  • (12:37) - — How Maura’s Salesforce roots shaped Qualified
  • (15:07) - — Working for a CEO who actually gets marketing
  • (19:07) - — Lessons from startup life & learning every part of marketing
  • (22:07) - — Building the right team and hiring people smarter than you
  • (29:07) - — Why product launches are the heartbeat of marketing
  • (43:53) - — Agentic marketing, events, and AI at Qualified
  • (55:53) - — The future of marketing and why it’s back on top

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
2 weeks ago
1 hour 2 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
What Your Messaging is Missing: How to Close the Meaning Gap (with Diane Wiredu, Founder of Lion Words)

#300 Drive | This episode is from Drive 2025, our 2-day in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, VT. It features Diane Wiredu, Founder of Lion Words and expert in B2B messaging and positioning. She shared a killer talk on “What Your Messaging Is Missing,” breaking down why most B2B copy sounds the same and how to close the meaning gap by focusing on clarity, balance, and buyer context.


Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro from Dave
  • (02:52) - – What “message-market fit” actually means
  • (05:22) - – Why most B2B messaging misses
  • (09:27) - – The “meaning gap” and why it happens
  • (14:12) - – Balancing clarity, emotion, and differentiation
  • (19:37) - – How to simplify complex products
  • (26:33) - – Examples of messaging that actually resonates
  • (32:03) - – How to pressure-test your messaging
  • (38:18) - – Aligning teams around a clear message
  • (44:03) - – Turning insights into copy that converts
  • (49:13) - – Q&A: internal buy-in, testing, next steps

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
3 weeks ago
52 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
GTM Growth Decoded: 100 Companies, 3 Stages, 1 System with Sangram Vajre, Co-Founder & CEO of GTM Partners

#299 Drive | This episode is from Drive 2025, our 2 day in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, VT. Our first speaker was Sangram Vajre, Co-founder and CEO of GTM Partners and expert in GTM strategy. He shared a great session on building a repeatable GTM Operating System for sustainable growth, offering insight from 100 companies on what separates teams that scale from those that stall.


Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro from Dave
  • (03:07) - – Sangram’s background + setup
  • (05:07) - – What GTM really means
  • (12:02) - – The 3 stages of GTM maturity
  • (12:27) - – Why NRR is the key metric
  • (21:07) - – The “boring marketing” advantage
  • (27:53) - – How to say no and prioritize
  • (29:53) - – Why GTM alignment beats tactics
  • (33:53) - – Building your GTM Operating System
  • (36:13) - – Q&A: GTM alignment, discovery, growth

Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.


It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. 


But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.

That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.

And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. 

In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.


This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.

Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
3 weeks ago
50 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
I Answered 15 Questions About Work and Life from the Exit Five Team

#298 Q&A | OK I asked my team for some questions; a bit of a mailbag type of episode. So I sat down solo for this one and answered 15 questions from the Exit Five team about work, life, marketing, and everything in between. We got into everything from my daily routine and how I think about LinkedIn, to the best career advice I’ve ever gotten, what I’m reading, and a few personal stories I’ve never shared before.

Watch this episode on YouTube on my channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyagkJf6xHw&t=508s


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (02:08) - – What’s your LinkedIn content creation process?
  • (04:53) - – How often do you check Slack and email?
  • (05:53) - – What are you reading or listening to right now?
  • (09:23) - – What does a perfect day look like for you?
  • (11:23) - – Tell your life story in four minutes.
  • (12:08) - – If you could gain any quality or ability, what would it be?
  • (16:08) - – What’s your most embarrassing work moment?
  • (18:43) - – What’s your favorite all-time book and why?
  • (19:43) - – What’s the best career advice you’ve ever received?
  • (22:03) - – What motivates you when you’re feeling unmotivated?
  • (23:08) - – If you could transform into any animal, what would you choose?
  • (23:43) - – What are your biggest pet peeves?
  • (25:33) - – Which team member would you swap lives with for a day?
  • (26:43) - – What’s your go-to karaoke song?
  • (27:18) - – If you weren’t running Exit Five, what job would you have?
  • (28:58) - – Wrap-up & closing

Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
4 weeks ago
32 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
From Growth Marketer to CMO: How Kelly Cheng Leads Marketing at Goldcast

#297 Leadership | I sat down with Kelly Cheng, CMO at Goldcast, to talk about her path from growth marketer to marketing leader, how she’s built and scaled Goldcast’s marketing org, the shift from PLG to sales-led, and why she believes great CMOs play the long game.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (03:08) - – Kelly’s path from Hong Kong to Boston
  • (06:08) - – Joining Goldcast and the PLG pivot
  • (09:08) - – Moving from growth marketer to CMO
  • (12:08) - – The role of mentors in her career
  • (20:08) - – Questions to ask before taking a CMO role
  • (27:43) - – Inside Goldcast’s marketing org structure
  • (33:43) - – How Kelly measures brand and mindshare
  • (40:43) - – Why the BDR team reports to marketing
  • (46:43) - – The link between brand, content, and pipeline
  • (51:43) - – Leading with vulnerability and the “long game”

Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
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***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
57 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Live from LGA my NYC Recap

Hey it's me live from the airport, LGA to be exact. Sorry for the poor audio, my AirPods make it way worse than just talking into the phone, now I know. But we cleaned it up a bit. Recapping our NYC event if you missed it, talking about the ROI of hanging out in person and what's next.


Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
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***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
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1 month ago
10 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Mastering Messaging, Copy, and Clarity with Emma Stratton

#295 Messaging | Dave is joined by Emma Stratton, founder of Punchy, where she helps B2B tech companies sharpen their positioning and write messaging that actually connects. Emma’s worked with hundreds of teams to cut through vague, abstract copy and turn it into language buyers instantly get.


Dave and Emma cover:

  • How to go from vague to punchy using specificity and buyer empathy
  • Why most B2B messaging blends into the “sea of sameness” (and how to stand out)
  • How customer research and real conversations create message–market fit


They wrap with a candid chat on journaling, focus, and how managing your mental energy can make you a better marketer and human.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro to Emma
  • (04:13) - – What makes B2B messaging actually good
  • (07:55) - – Common messaging mistakes (and why “clarity > clever”)
  • (10:53) - – Positioning vs. messaging: what’s the difference?
  • (15:06) - – Why it’s hard to name great B2B marketing examples
  • (17:30) - – How to sharpen weak messaging and fix vague positioning statements
  • (20:38) - – Simplifying complex products without dumbing it down
  • (23:48) - – How to write for buyers (not just execs)
  • (28:55) - – Using customer interviews and research to build strong messaging
  • (33:33) - – Standing out in a crowded, buzzword-filled market
  • (36:17) - – How storytelling fits into B2B messaging
  • (39:23) - – Messaging advice for early-stage founders and startups
  • (42:38) - – How often should you revisit and update messaging?
  • (44:48) - – Productivity, managing your energy, and staying focused
  • (48:03) - – Journaling, mindfulness, and being intentional with your time
  • (51:58) - – Final takeaways

Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
53 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Behind the Scenes of Drive 2025 with Anna Vermillion and Allison Saxon

#294 Event Strategy | First time podcast guest alert! I invited Allison and Anna from the Exit Five team on for a conversation post Drive 2025 - to talk about lessons learned and behind the scenes from our annual marketing conference in Vermont. Snag your tickets for next year now exitfive.com/drive


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (02:08) - – Why events are making a comeback in B2B marketing
  • (06:08) - – What Drive is and how it started
  • (11:08) - – Why every event should start with the landing page
  • (14:08) - – Lessons from year one and how feedback shaped Drive 2025
  • (19:08) - – Treating events like products, not projects
  • (21:08) - – Building connection through “third spaces” and excursions
  • (26:08) - – Why community is the real ROI of in-person events
  • (32:43) - – The biggest Drive mishap (and what it taught us)
  • (37:43) - – Post-event strategy: why the event isn’t over when it ends
  • (47:43) - – Favorite moments, lessons, and shoutouts from Drive 2025

Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
58 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Email vs. Real Mail

#293 Email Marketing | I'm trying to make my way from Vermont to New York and back with a mini episode talking about email (is email dead?), direct mail, the Dream 100, and a smart lesson from a non-B2B marketer.


Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
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***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
15 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Traveling and The ROI of Events

#291 In-Person Events | I decided to break the pattern with a solo podcast, just me and my phone, walking around the woods at my home in Vermont on a damp October morning before heading to NYC for the Exit Five meetup. I talk about my goals for the week, our plans, why we're hosting a dinner, the value of meeting in-person, remote vs. in office work, and other ramblings.

*If you listened to this: DM me on LinkedIn or email dave@exitifve.com - tell me what you want me to cover on this podcast as it relates to marketing, business, or life.


Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
11 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Beyond Copy: How To Use AI to Build GTM Systems That Scale

#290 AI Workflows | In this episode, Dave is joined by Dan Guenet, GTM Engineer at Compound Growth Marketing, and Eoin Clancy, Head of Growth at AirOps. Both guests are at the forefront of building AI workflows that make marketing more efficient and scalable, from content creation to sales enablement.


Dave, Dan, and Eoin cover:

  • How to use Clay, Zapier, and AirOps to build repeatable GTM systems that scale without burning bandwidth
  • The frameworks behind automating webinar production, sales transcript analysis, and content refreshes with AI
  • Why marketers need to bridge the gap between AI hype and real execution, and where to start with building practical workflows

Together, they break down the exact tools, prompts, and processes they’re using to turn AI from theory into impact across B2B marketing teams.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (02:08) - – The gap between AI hype and real execution
  • (06:08) - – Dan’s background and how GTM Engineering came to life
  • (09:08) - – Building repeatable webinar systems with Clay
  • (13:08) - – How to scale content and events without burning bandwidth
  • (18:08) - – Eoin’s content creation workflow using AirOps
  • (23:08) - – Turning sales transcripts into actionable GTM insights
  • (33:43) - – Using Zapier Agents to automate product marketing tasks
  • (41:43) - – Refreshing SEO content with AI for better performance
  • (49:43) - – Where AI fits in your team and how to start small

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
57 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Events, AI, and The Future of B2B Buying with Sydney Sloan, CMO at G2

#289 Strategy | Dave is joined by Sydney Sloan, Chief Marketing Officer at G2, where she’s leading the charge on integrating AI into marketing, rethinking team structures, and modernizing how B2B brands build trust. Sydney brings decades of experience from companies like Adobe, Alfresco, and Salesloft, and now oversees one of the largest software marketplaces in the world.


Dave and Sydney cover:

  • How to design events that truly drive pipeline, using frameworks like “Think, Feel, Do” to plan with purpose
  • A smarter way to measure event ROI with Sydney’s “Revenue in the Room” approach
  • How AI is transforming the buyer journey and reshaping what modern marketing teams look like

An episode that will leave you rethinking your marketing strategy, from the events you run to the org you build.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (03:08) - – The return of in-person events
  • (06:08) - – Building community through smarter event design
  • (08:08) - – Inside G2’s “AI in Action” roadshow
  • (11:08) - – The “Think, Feel, Do” event framework
  • (14:08) - – Why details make or break events
  • (17:08) - – Measuring success with “Revenue in the Room”
  • (20:08) - – Post-event follow-up that drives results
  • (27:43) - – How AI is reshaping the buyer journey
  • (43:43) - – Rethinking marketing orgs for the AI era

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
55 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Marketing in the Age of AI: CMOs Separating the Hype from What’s Real

#288 AI in Marketing | In this episode, Dave is joined by three B2B marketing leaders: Sara Ajemian, Head of Brand & Communications at SOCi, Jennifer Delevante-Moulen, CMO at Knak, and Tara Robertson, CMO at Bitly. Together they share real-world perspectives on how AI is actually shaping marketing teams today—what’s working, what’s not, and how leaders are adapting.


Dave and the panel cover:

  • The most overhyped AI use cases in B2B marketing (and where human nuance still wins)
  • Real success stories, including building an AI-powered content research engine, scaling global localization, and using AI to make creative teams more data-driven
  • How CMOs are personally using AI as a strategic thought partner for board prep, customer insights, and team coaching

Whether you’re experimenting with new tools or figuring out how to bring AI into your strategy, this conversation gives a grounded look at what B2B marketing leaders are really doing today.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (03:08) - – Meet the panel: SOCi, Knak, Bitly
  • (07:08) - – Has AI met or missed expectations?
  • (11:53) - – The most overhyped AI use cases
  • (15:08) - – Why human nuance still matters in personalization
  • (20:08) - – The imposter syndrome of AI adoption
  • (23:08) - – The power of AI with memory
  • (25:48) - – Best AI use cases from the panel
  • (31:43) - – Scaling global localization with AI
  • (34:43) - – Training brand teams to be more data-driven
  • (38:43) - – How CMOs personally use AI in their workflow
  • (42:43) - – Using AI as a strategic thought partner
  • (46:43) - – Coaching teams with AI feedback loops
  • (48:43) - – The frustrations of iteration and tool updates
  • (52:43) - – Is leadership pushing AI adoption?
  • (56:43) - – Budgeting and building a modern AI-enabled tech stack
  • (59:43) - – Final takeaways and closing

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
1 hour 4 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
Beyond Clicks: Building B2B Brands with Offline Ads with Amrita Gurney

#287 Brand Marketing | In this episode, Matt is joined by Amrita Gurney, a veteran B2B marketing leader who has scaled some of Canada’s fastest-growing startups and now works as a fractional CMO. At Float, she led bold offline campaigns, from billboards and buses to TV spots, that helped the company stand out against major banks and build lasting brand recall.


Matt and Amrita cover:

  • Why offline ads like billboards and transit campaigns are making a comeback in B2B marketing
  • How creative choices — bold colors, emotional messaging, and relatable personas — can make or break brand campaigns
  • What B2B marketers should know about budget allocation, measuring recall, and balancing brand vs. performance marketing

Whether you’re running your first brand campaign or rethinking your spend mix, this episode will give you fresh ideas on how to stand out in B2B marketing.


Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro
  • (03:08) - – Amrita’s background and career journey
  • (04:28) - – Why Float invested in offline ads
  • (06:08) - – Launching their first billboard campaign
  • (08:08) - – Taking bold risks with creative
  • (10:08) - – Human-centered messaging vs. product copy
  • (12:08) - – Expanding into buses, subways, and airports
  • (15:08) - – Testing (or not testing) creative concepts
  • (16:08) - – What brand recall really means in B2B
  • (18:08) - – Measuring lift from offline campaigns
  • (22:43) - – Balancing brand vs. performance spend
  • (24:43) - – Lessons from consumer marketing in B2B
  • (26:43) - – How they chose cities and placements
  • (29:43) - – Budget breakdown and allocation
  • (33:43) - – Tracking TV ad performance
  • (35:43) - – How long to run campaigns for impact
  • (36:43) - – Advice for marketers considering offline ads
  • (38:43) - – Closing thoughts and takeaways

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.

Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.

It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.

But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. 


That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.

  • Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.
  • Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.
  • Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.

And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.

See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.


***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

  • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
  • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
  • Visit hatch.fm to learn more
Show more...
1 month ago
42 minutes

The Dave Gerhardt Show
How to Be Great at Marketing Without Being a Subject Matter Expert with Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room

#286 Growth | In this episode, Dave is joined by Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room, a leading customer intelligence platform for go-to-market teams. Kevin shares insights from his experience helping teams capture and act on digital breadcrumbs to optimize their marketing and sales efforts.


Dave and Kevin cover:

  • How to be a good marketer even when you're not the Subject Matter Expert
  • Signal-based marketing and how it is transforming the buyer’s journey by focusing on the right actions instead of just clicks
  • B2B influencer marketing plays that work

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - - Intro to Kevin
  • (06:18) - - How to Be Good At Marketing When You're Not a Subject Matter Expert
  • (08:56) - - Why You Should Stay Close to Your Customer
  • (16:15) - - How to Manage a Marketing Team with Limited Resources
  • (18:34) - - Eliminating Ineffective Marketing Efforts to Drive Real Results
  • (25:17) - - Signups and Demos Boost From LinkedIn
  • (26:23) - - How to Attribute ROI in Multi-Platform Marketing
  • (30:33) - - Creating Authentic and Valuable Content
  • (35:12) - - Generating Pipeline with Economic Buyer Signals
  • (36:53) - - Increasing Digital Touchpoints
  • (40:51) - - How To Maximize Actionability, Volume, and Conversion Rate
  • (42:37) - - LinkedIn Measurement

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

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This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by Qualified.


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The Dave Gerhardt Show
Conversations about marketing and business. Hosted by Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, Former CMO). If you work in marketing check out exitfive.com