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The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, Andrew Zaragoza
18 episodes
1 week ago
The DMS, The Deron and Mason Show hosted by Deron Winn, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza. Deron Winn is a Wrestler and MMA Fighter, was on The US National Wrestling Team and competed in The UFC and Bellator. Mason Fowler is a 2x IBJJF World Champion, No-Gi World Champion and is one of the top ranked Jiu Jitsu Black Belts in the world. Andrew Zaragoza is a Blue Belt in Jiu Jitsu and fitness enthusiast. The DMS asks and answers questions on all things grappling including Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, MMA, Fitness and everything in between to help you become a better athlete.
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The DMS, The Deron and Mason Show hosted by Deron Winn, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza. Deron Winn is a Wrestler and MMA Fighter, was on The US National Wrestling Team and competed in The UFC and Bellator. Mason Fowler is a 2x IBJJF World Champion, No-Gi World Champion and is one of the top ranked Jiu Jitsu Black Belts in the world. Andrew Zaragoza is a Blue Belt in Jiu Jitsu and fitness enthusiast. The DMS asks and answers questions on all things grappling including Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, MMA, Fitness and everything in between to help you become a better athlete.
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The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Mason Fowler Chasing the Light-Heavy Crown + Deron Winn vs Pat Downey Is BACK!

The heated match is back on, Deron Winn vs Pat Downey! On Episode 18 of The DMS Podcast, Deron breaks down what this match means for his career and the new direction that could follow.


Meanwhile, Mason Fowler has his eyes on becoming the best light-heavyweight grappler in the world. He dives into his relentless training, competition mindset, and what it takes to stay at the top of Brazilian jiu jitsu.


This episode is a must-watch for anyone into jiu jitsu, MMA, or combat sports. Get an inside look at the grind, the rivalries, and the sacrifices that define these athletes. Grab your seat, it all goes down in The DMS Podcast.


Get first dibs on seminars, exclusive training tips & more with The DMS Newsletter:

https://sendfox.com/TheDMS


🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


#GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow


Chapters:

0:00 Deron Winn Vs Pat Downey is on again

2:09 Deron helped Mason's style

5:00 Deron has never competed in BJJ

6:34 Pat Downey match preview

8:36 Strategy going into the match

10:39 Nicky Rod Vs Kaynan Duarte recap

12:02 Mason's Comeback at 205 lbs

14:55 Why 205 lbs Is the Sweet Spot

18:47 Diet’s Impact on Recovery

20:35 Challenges of Bigger Opponents

24:19 Strict Diet, No Cheat Meals

26:04 From Sugary Food to Healthy Eating

29:34 Training Changed Cravings

31:11 Weight Management for Active Lives

34:39 Weight Cuts and Eating Disorders

36:30 Dangers of Weight Cycling

40:11 Food Quality Over Calories

42:12 Wrestling Weight Cuts & Macros

45:37 Seasoning Makes Meals Better

47:27 Flavors, Friends, and Fights

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6 months ago
49 minutes 46 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
What REALLY Happens on TUF: Training, Struggles, and Behind-the-Scenes Drama || The DMS Ep. 17

Get first dibs on seminars, exclusive training tips & more with The DMS Newsletter:

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This episode of The DMS Podcast is packed with wild stories, inside scoops, and plenty of laughs as Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza dive into the craziness of The Ultimate Fighter. It’s episode 17, and Mason drops some incredible behind-the-scenes takes as a coach on Team Sonnen—even though he’s trained under Daniel Cormier for years. How did the DC loyalist end up in enemy territory? You’ll have to hear it to believe it!


From intense training sessions to hilarious moments in the house, this episode gives you the full picture of life on TUF. Mason shares what it’s like coaching fighters in such a high-pressure environment while Deron and Andrew chime in with their own unique perspectives on the struggles, rivalries, and bonding that happen off-camera.


The team keeps it lighthearted but real, giving fans of MMA, Brazilian jiu jitsu, and wrestling a rare look at what truly makes fighters tick. Whether you’re here for the training tips, the behind-the-scenes drama, or just good vibes with three guys who live and breathe combat sports, this is one you don’t want to miss!


Follow Deron Winn

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🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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8 months ago
31 minutes 13 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Unleashing Oban Elliott: The Fight Prep Behind His UFC KO Of The Night || The DMS Ep. 16

In episode 16 of The DMS Podcast, hosts Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza dive deep with UFC fighter Oban Elliott. Discover the fight prep secrets behind his incredible "KO of the Night" win as Oban shares his training routines, insights on mental toughness, and what it takes to succeed in the Octagon. Whether you’re a seasoned MMA or BJJ enthusiast, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to elevate their fight game and find inspiration in Oban's journey. Tune in and unleash your potential!

The DMS Merch: https://merchlabs.com/collections/the-dms-podcast

Follow Oban on IG: https://www.instagram.com/obanelliott/


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


Chapters:

0:00 Oban Elliott's Knockout at Madison Square Garden – The Dream Comes True!

2:12 Overcoming Training Challenges with a Team – Secrets to Success!

6:34 Training with MMA Elite in Germany – Inside a Champion's Camp!

8:42 Considering a Move to Germany – Is It Time for a Change?

12:33 Innovative Training Strategies – Are Specialized Coaches the Future?

14:46 Inside UFD Gym – Elite Facilities for Fighters Revealed!

18:31 Sparring with UFC Stars – What It's Like to Train with the Best!

20:18 Travel Routines and Time Zone Challenges – How Fighters Adapt!

24:06 Winning vs. Impressing – What Really Matters in Fighting?

25:51 Judge Misinterpretations – The Real Impact on Fighter Contracts!

29:18 Controversial Fight Judging – Innovations That Could Change Everything!

31:12 Visible Scoring in Fights – Make Each Match More Exciting!

35:03 Marketing Champions in MMA – Why Big Names Matter!

37:06 Overtraining and Fatigue – Are Fighters Pushing Too Hard?

40:47 Takedown Challenge – Who Would Win: Oban or Mason?

42:31 Team Dynamics Before the Fight – Building Excitement Together!

46:15 Achieving UFC Dreams – Oban's Life-Changing Moment!

48:03 Future Aspirations in UFC – The Journey is Just Starting!

51:37 Reflecting on Success – How to Stay Hungry for More Wins!

53:18 Mental Preparation for Fight Night – Staying Calm Under Pressure!

57:10 Managing Fight Anxiety – Techniques That Work!

59:06 Oban's Mindset During Fights – Focus on the Opponent!

1:02:27 Transforming Nerves into Energy – Embracing the Moment!

1:04:00 Performing in High Pressure – Unleashing the Fighter Within!



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8 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 16 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
How Your Weight Is Holding Back Your Jiu Jitsu And How to Fix It || The DMS Ep. 15

Welcome to Episode 15 of The DMS Podcast, hosted by Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza! In this episode, we dive into how your weight might be holding back your Brazilian jiu-jitsu game and share actionable tips to fix it. Whether you're into jiu-jitsu, fitness, wrestling, or MMA, this conversation is packed with insights to help you improve your performance and reach your goals. Hit play, drop a comment, and let us know your thoughts! Follow Deron Winn 🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/ 🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn Follow Mason Fowler 🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj 🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma 🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler Follow Andrew Zaragoza 🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz 🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/ 🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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10 months ago
52 minutes 32 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
How Social Media is Destroying (and Saving) Combat Sports - The DMS Ep. 14

In episode 14, Mason Fowler, Deron Winn and Andrew Zaragoza talk about Deron's match against former teammate Pat Downey, internet drama in the grappling community and review some UFC Fights.


DMS Apparel available now! https://merchlabs.com/collections/the-dms-podcast


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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10 months ago
41 minutes 20 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
The Future of BJJ in the UFC: Exclusive Contracts Good For Top Grapplers? || The DMS Ep. 13

DMS Apparel available now! https://merchlabs.com/collections/the-dms-podcast

Are exclusive UFC contracts a game-changer for Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu athletes? In this episode 13 of The DMS Podcast, Mason Fowler, Deron Winn and Andrew Zaragoza explore how these deals could impact top grapplers transitioning into the UFC. From better pay and marketing opportunities to the potential challenges of exclusivity, we break down what this means for the future of BJJ.


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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11 months ago
46 minutes 28 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Your Fight Weekend Guide: Jone Jones vs Stipe Miocic, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul || The DMS Ep. 12

In Episode 12 of The DMS, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza break down one of the most anticipated fight weekends ever, Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic, Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul and more. Use this as you guide to sounding like you know what you are talking about this weekend!


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


#GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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1 year ago
39 minutes 58 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Beat the Turtle Position and Take the Back in Jiu Jitsu – Here’s How! || The DMS Ep. 11

In episode 11 of The DMS, Andrew Zaragoza asks Mason Fowler how to get passed the turtle position, how to utilize turtle if you are on the bottom, and what are the most important concepts when taking the back. 


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


#GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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1 year ago
48 minutes 50 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Perfect These Overlooked Takedown Details In Jiu Jitsu and Win More Matches - The DMS Ep. 10

In episode 10 of The DMS, Deron Winn and Andrew Zaragoza talk about how to improve you takedowns for Jiu Jitsu and pretty much all grappling sports. 

Action Reaction Takedowns by Deron Winn: https://fanaticwrestling.com/products/action-reaction-takedowns-by-deron-winn?_pos=1&_sid=fb474ada7&_ss=r

 

Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


#GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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1 year ago
38 minutes 32 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Wrestling Instructional: How To Get Recruited - The DMS Ep. 9

In episode 9 of The DMS, Deron Winn shares expert coaching advice and reveals what's required for high school wrestlers to make it to the next level. 


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 2 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Take Your BJJ To The Pro Level - How To Train Full Time - The DMS Ep. 8

In episode 8 of The DMS, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza talk about what it takes to become a Pro Jiu Jitsu Athlete, how to stay on track while competing on the road and what Mason had to do in order to train Jiu Jitsu full time. 


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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1 year ago
1 hour 2 minutes 54 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Does Size Matter In Grappling And MMA? - The DMS Ep. 7

In episode 7 of The DMS podcast, Deron Winn, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza discuss why people are more excited to watch Heavyweight Fighters and often times overlook the Lightweight Greats. 


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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1 year ago
42 minutes 11 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Overcoming The Biggest Upset At CJI ft. Victor Hugo - The DMS Ep. 6

In episode 6 of The DMS, Victor Hugo, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about Victor's recent experience competing in the first ever Craig Jones Invitational. Victor talks about how to move forward after a big upsetting loss and his response to Nicholas Meregali claiming those that joined CJI think money is more important than jiu jitsu legacy. Follow Victor on IG: https://www.instagram.com/victorhugojj Follow Deron Winn 🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/ 🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn Follow Mason Fowler 🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj 🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma 🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler Follow Andrew Zaragoza 🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz 🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/ 🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE CHAPTERS:00:00 - Who's Better? Mason or Victor?01:33 - Competing at CJI05:55 - Problem With Guaranteed Money in Tournaments10:24 - Victor Has Beaten Nicky Rod 3x In A Row11:01 - Pain In Knowing You Could Have Won CJI12:41 - The Beauty & Heartbreak of Combat Sports14:55 - The Main Difference Between Winning & Losing in Comp15:32 - How Do You Get Back To Training After A Big Upset Loss At CJI?17:35 - "He Beat Me" Is A Sentence Victor Isn't Used To Saying19:49 - Who Does Victor Hugo Want To Face Next?22:25 - Victor Hugo Vs Felipe Pena: Who Pulls Guard First? 23:21 - What Happened To Luke Griffith vs Victor Hugo Match?25:23 - Which Promotion Does Victor Hugo Want To Compete In Next?28:05 - Why The Top Jiu Jitsu Athletes Stick To Either Gi or NoGi Only 30:03 - How Victor Hugo Told Mo and ADCC He Was Doing CJI32:43 - Victor Hugo Responds To Nicholas Meregali and Money Over Legacy33:43 - Jiu Jitsu Legacy Won't Pay The Bills34:46 - Craig Jones Makes More Money Than Everyone And Doesn't Have A World Title35:40 - No One Cares About Jiu Jitsu Legacy36:25 - Marketing Is More Important Than Legacy For Jiu Jitsu Athletes 37:46 - How Victor Hugo Has Improved His Standup and Guard Passing Game In Jiu Jitsu41:05 - How Coach John Welbourn Has Helped Victor Hugo42:43 - Years Ago World Titles Meant A lot, Marketing Yourself Matters More Today46:19 - Mason Fowler Would Rather Be Rich Than Be An ADCC or CJI Champ46:46 - If Victor Hugo Won Another Title, It Wouldn't Mean Anything 48:43 - Why The CJI Alley Is Great For Jiu Jitsu53:05 - How To Follow Victor Hugo's Legacy54:08 - The Most Important Thing About Today's Podcast #VictorHugoVsNicholasMeregali #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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1 year ago
55 minutes 23 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Craziest Day In Jiu Jitsu History: CJI Recap & Thoughts - The DMS Ep. 5

In episode 5 of The DMS, Deron Winn, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza do a recap on the most historical weekend in the history of jiu jitsu where both the Craig Jones Invitational and The ADCC took place in Las Vegas. Jiu Jitsu might have changed forever after this weekend. 


Follow Deron Winn

🤼  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

🤼  Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


Follow Mason Fowler

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler 


Follow Andrew Zaragoza

🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


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1 year ago
1 hour 6 minutes 14 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Should You Cut Weight For BJJ Tournaments? - The DMS Ep. 4

In episode 4 of The DMS, Deron gives us a 2024 Olympic Wrestling Recap and the crew discusses weight cut strategies, mistakes and recall their worst weight cuts ever.


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1 year ago
1 hour 6 minutes 55 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
BJJ Point Systems and Best Rule Sets For Your Grappling Style - The DMS Ep. 3

In episode 3, Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza discuss the different rule sets each organization has and figure out which grappling style works best for each one. 


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1 year ago
59 minutes 47 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
Elite Grappling: What We Learned from Training with Champions - The DMS Ep. 2

In episode 2 of The DMS, Deron Winn and Mason Folwer share their experiences training with world class grapplers such as Khabib Nurmagomedov, Islam Makhachev and Daniel Comier. 


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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 29 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
The Best Ways to Earn a Living in Grappling Sports - The DMS Ep. 1

In episode 1 of The DMS, Deron Winn, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza talk about which paths are the most lucrative in grappling and ways to make money in the sport. We also discuss Mason Fowler's decision to bypass ADCC 2024 in favor of CJI.

 

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1 year ago
1 hour 23 minutes 14 seconds

The DMS - The Deron and Mason Show
The DMS, The Deron and Mason Show hosted by Deron Winn, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza. Deron Winn is a Wrestler and MMA Fighter, was on The US National Wrestling Team and competed in The UFC and Bellator. Mason Fowler is a 2x IBJJF World Champion, No-Gi World Champion and is one of the top ranked Jiu Jitsu Black Belts in the world. Andrew Zaragoza is a Blue Belt in Jiu Jitsu and fitness enthusiast. The DMS asks and answers questions on all things grappling including Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, MMA, Fitness and everything in between to help you become a better athlete.