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The Law Firm Owners Podcast

Dan Warburton

50 episodes

1 day ago

My guest today is Mel Kang, the founder and Board member of Mezzle, a law firm built for the more entrepreneurial lawyer who embraces legal tech and the modern ways of working, rather than the often outdated and slow traditional ways. Mezzle offers time, location and financial freedom to lawyers wishing to join one of the fastest-growing law firms in the U.K. He’s also a Co-founder of Orange7, which is on a mission to build a legal AI company ready for today’s AI world. Its aim is to help law...

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My guest today is Mel Kang, the founder and Board member of Mezzle, a law firm built for the more entrepreneurial lawyer who embraces legal tech and the modern ways of working, rather than the often outdated and slow traditional ways. Mezzle offers time, location and financial freedom to lawyers wishing to join one of the fastest-growing law firms in the U.K. He’s also a Co-founder of Orange7, which is on a mission to build a legal AI company ready for today’s AI world. Its aim is to help law...

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The Law Firm Owners Podcast

150 - Law firm growth through acquisition

My guest today is Mel Kang, the founder and Board member of Mezzle, a law firm built for the more entrepreneurial lawyer who embraces legal tech and the modern ways of working, rather than the often outdated and slow traditional ways. Mezzle offers time, location and financial freedom to lawyers wishing to join one of the fastest-growing law firms in the U.K. He’s also a Co-founder of Orange7, which is on a mission to build a legal AI company ready for today’s AI world. Its aim is to help law...

2 days ago

39 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

149 - How creative thinking makes law firms thrive

Joining us today is Felix Riley, a keynote speaker and strategist, whose talk, 'Lawyers vs. The Machine,' has been sparking conversation across the legal sector. He’s a former City trader and successful entrepreneur turned business strategist and creativity expert, helping law firms prepare their people for the coming age of AI. With a background spanning finance, writing for the BBC, publishing thrillers with Penguin and copper mining in Zambia, Felix brings a unique mix of experience and vi...

1 week ago

33 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

148 - Neuromarketing for lawyers to beat competition

My next guest is Olha Bodnar, the founder of Ethos Leads, who has spent over 10 years in legal marketing across Canada, the U.S., and Europe. She helps law firm owners use brain-based, ethical messaging to win more right-fit clients. On this episode, we're covering the 6-step neuromarketing sequence that law firm owners can use to turn overwhelmed prospects into retained clients. Resources for law firm growth: https://ethosleads.com/resources Connect on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ol...

2 weeks ago

45 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

147 - Break through stagnation with a competitive edge

My guest today is Adam Strong, who helps M&A teams build a 'strategic exit advisory' function that they can add to their usual suite of legal services. It’s a framework that transforms a law firm from a late-stage legal service provider into an early-stage strategic partner. Adam also hosts the Business Strategist podcast that receives over 4000 downloads a month. Adam is also the best-selling author of Play the Game and two books, and is known for increasing law firm revenue and market s...

3 weeks ago

38 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

146 - Growth in an age of uncertainty

My guest today is Dana Denis-Smith, who has been awarded an OBE, which is a recognition of an Officer of the Order of the British Empire. It’s a prestigious British honour and is the second-highest rank in the Order of the British Empire. Dana is a prominent legal sector leader, serving as CEO of Obelisk Support and founder of the First 100 Years campaign. Dana founded Obelisk Support in 2010, providing flexible legal solutions for clients. The First 100 Years campaign, launched in 2014, led ...

1 month ago

38 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

145 - Three secrets to winning high-value cases

My guest today is Philip Devenish, a partner at Jones Day, which has offices in Dubai & London. Philip dedicates his practice to dispute resolution and is renowned for resolving the most challenging, complex, and high-value international disputes. Over the past eight years, he has won or settled more than 95 per cent of his cases, with only one loss in over 8 years. Philip has obtained billions of dollars for global corporations and financial institutions in some of the largest cross-bord...

1 month ago

37 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

144 - Why culture is vital for performance

My guest today is Michael Burne, the founder of Carbon and Bamboo.He qualified as a solicitor in 1995 and, since 2010, has been challenging the way things are done in the legal sector. Michael has experience from City law firms, a listed professional services business, and has led large-scale merger, acquisition and integration projects over the last 25 years. He also recently launched a new Charity, Pioneer 7R, and is a director of a cricket club, which is also run as a charity. In today’s e...

1 month ago

43 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

143 - Pricing effort, not outcomes, in an AI world

My guest today is the renowned David Burns, an equity partner at Ronald Fletcher Baker LLP, listed as a ‘leading Partner’ in the Legal 500 for corporate occupiers, and recommended for property litigation and commercial litigation. The firm was founded in 1948 and now has around 140 employees, walk-in offices in Baker Street, Old Street, Exeter and Manchester, and some new offices opening soon. On today’s episode, what we’re covering are the secrets to client trust and building a thriving cult...

1 month ago

31 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

142 - Pricing effort, not outcomes, in an AI world

Today I have one switched-on lady with me, Etiosa Agbonlahor Etinosa is a behavioural economist and CEO of Decision Alpha, a behavioural pricing firm that helps businesses, including law firms, improve pricing for growth, traction, and stronger perceived value. Etinosa is passionate about helping people live healthier financial lives, she brings over a decade of experience working across the U.S., Australia, Africa, and the U.K.—shaping pricing, engagement, and customer behavior strategy for ...

1 month ago

32 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

141 - AI to scale without losing your firm's soul

My guest today is the one and only James Chadburn. James is the Managing Partner at Dean Wilson LLP, which is a full-service law firm based in Brighton with over 120 employees. James has been Managing Partner at Dean Wilson for three and a half years, having made the transition from a role as a fee-earning corporate partner. In this episode, we’re covering how law firms can use AI to scale and serve better without losing the soul of their practice. Here’s a link to Dean Wilson LLP: https://de...

2 months ago

40 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

140 - The Lawyer’s Identity Trap

My guest today is none other than Liz Smith, a charismatic lady who is the Head of Talent at Bamboo Platform, which provides a centralised operational support to a group of legal businesses. One of those is Carbon Law Partners, a consultancy law firm. Through her work at Carbon, she helps lawyers step away from the structure they’ve always known and build something that gives them more freedom, control, and balance. She knows that moving from a firm to self-employment is a big emotional shift...

2 months ago

36 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

139 - The New Law Model That’s Crushing Competition

My next guest is the great Eliot Hibbert, the founder and CEO of Nexa Law Limited. Nexa is a new model law firm established in 2017 and now has over 175 lawyers operating as consultants and over 300 people now using their Leap case managment. Today, what we’re covering is The New Law Model That’s Crushing Competition To find out more about nexa click here: https://nexa.law/ About Dan: Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £3M or more to invest in, so if you are interested i...

2 months ago

33 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

138 - How to build a brand that attracts ideal clients

My next guest is James Quarmby, the founder of the private wealth team at the international law firm Stephenson Harwood LLP. James has won tons of awards, and he didn’t want me to go there out of fear of sounding like boasting. Saying this, he’s a well-known commentator on tax policy in the media, including the BBC and a top 10 Legal Influencer on LinkedIn. On today’s episode, we’re covering how to build a brand that attracts ideal clients. James' LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-q...

2 months ago

37 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

137 - Can Traditional Firms Survive Without New Technology?

My guest today is the one and only James Geary, the Managing Partner of EMW, a full-service firm based in Milton Keynes, Northampton, Watford, London and Brighton. James Geary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-geary-b465572/ EMW Website: https://www.emwlaw.com/ About Dan: Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £3M or more to invest in, so if you are interested in receiving investment to grow or sell your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on:...

3 months ago

38 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

136 - Is Your Real Estate Law Firm Being Left Behind?

My next guest is Simon Davis, Co-CEO and Co-Founder at Nimbus, which is a business in the Midlands specialising in property and land intelligence. Their clients consist of property professionals who are doing investment and developments for themselves and are also the professionals that service them, such as surveyors, planners, architects and some lawyers. In the last year, Nimbus has grown by 50% now with a team of over 60. On this episode, we're covering how real estate clients are adoptin...

3 months ago

27 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

135 - Use ChatGPT and AI or Be Left Behind

Jonathan started his firm in 2019 and by 2023 grew it to over £2m annual revenue. The firm currently has about 20 employees and 15 self-employed consultant solicitors. Most employees work from their head office in Haywards Heath (a commuter town between Brighton and Gatwick). The firm is a full-service firm, but its main client base is owner-managed SMEs, and the top practice areas are corporate transactional work and contentious dispute resolution. The firm has been shortlisted for awards re...

3 months ago

34 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

134 - A Certificate Or Resilience, Which Matters Most?

My guest on this episode is Natalie Foster, Founder and CEO of Inspire Legal Group, which is an ABS structure law firm leading the way on building their own tech stack to improve day-to-day access to justice for clients, taking the pain out of property transactions and supporting disabled clients with bespoke solutions to facilitate just outcomes. Inspire Legal was born in lockdown 5 years ago in a bedroom on a laptop, and the question was, "If the world never opens up again, how are we going...

3 months ago

35 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

133 - How consultant law firms are reshaping the legal industry

My next guest is Robert Young, an Associate Director of the consultant recruitment team at Setfords, which is becoming known as the market-leading consultancy model law firm. Setfords has been the number one recruiter in the UK legal industry for two consecutive years, a testament to the significant impact they are having on the legal sector. Today, we're covering how platform & consultant law firms are reshaping the legal industry Setfords Consultant Solicitor | Law For People, By People...

4 months ago

36 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

132 - How a law firm can attract private equity

My next guest is Simon David, the Group Chief Executive of Thomas Legal and Equilaw, both of which are multi-award-winning firms. Thomas Legal is a niche conveyancing firm based in Gloucestershire and London, which predominantly transacts in the middle to upper end of the property market, including prime central London. Equilaw, on the other hand, advises clients in the specialist later life lending space and is the largest in the UK. Simon has worked in both estate agency and financial servi...

4 months ago

35 minutes

The Law Firm Owners Podcast

131 - Why succession planning is the business owner's secret to success

In this episode, I have Heledd Wyn, a Partner in Rothley Law, a national private client firm, and she specialises in taking the pain out of estate planning. To find out more about Heledd and what she offers, click here: Heledd Wyn - Rothley Law. About Dan: Currently, Dan is seeking a London Law Firm turning over £3M or more to acquire, so if you are interested in selling your law firm or know someone who might be, please contact Dan on: dan@danwarburton.com Dan also provides law firm owners a...

5 months ago

26 minutes